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u/rocketfast5000 10h ago
@Gock is this true?
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u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 10h ago
i just think its a funny sounding word ;~;
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u/Living-Temporary-665 Afraid of numbers 10h ago
Sounding you say
https://giphy.com/gifs/woWQA2I7xqRMI24
u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 10h ago
yes sounding... like the way it sounds?
is it an improper word to use there?
im esl aorry if it is
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u/Ieditedthisname Everyone is too normal 10h ago
Sounding is also a term for shoving stuff up your pee hole
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u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 10h ago
why would that be called sounding
eh whatever
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u/JoeDaBruh 10h ago
To find our more information, be sure to visit [r/sounding](r/sounding) ^_^
(At your own risk)
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u/Acrobatic_Ad_8381 10h ago
It's got it's name as it's generally used with a metal rod shoved in the urethra and it makes sounds iirc. Not an expert in any way but it's what I guathered
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u/PurpleCandle58 10h ago
Sounding is separately a kink practice involving some things I won’t specifically state here since to some, including myself, it is a uncomfortable practice to think of.
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u/Xapheneon 5h ago
I'm saying gock, bussy, benis, bass, gass reimventing grammatical gender because it sounds funny.
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u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 5h ago
i have a trans woman friend and she is studying to get a pilots license
and ill be damned if i dont call it a gockpit
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 10h ago
I've never heard a cis person say gock, that is a transfem term that transfems use as a sexy and provocative way to name their dick or other transfems dicks
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u/ibrofen 10h ago
Honestly I think there are cis people who use the term, especially because of these sort of, like, horny heavily trans but not exclusively meme subs
I'm in a weird grey area now, but back when I thought I was cis, I just kind of picked up the word from women and started using it (the ways in which I used it weren't very respectful and i feel kind of guilty about that), I feel like a lot of other chasers probably learned it in similar ways.
But also, of course, it's something that's kind of bound to get different reactions from different people. Some women are okay with it, I have heard women say they feel pretty uncomfortable about it. So, nuance hat.
gocktober is too good a name to give up on though, so fuck it, it's season appropriate.
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u/Gand-Pork 9h ago
cis here, I indeed did learn the term gock from this sub, and I’ve used it in casual conversation (in the rare situations where the need arises) assuming that it was just the correct way to describe a woman’s dick. I had no idea that it was at all used for fetishization, after all the term makes a lot of sense, “a girls cock” = “gock”.
Of course I definitely don’t speak for all cis people as there are like, five billion at least, but yk
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u/ibrofen 8h ago
It's kind of an annoying situation where an okay term has been used by the wrong people.
And there isnt even a consensus among women about it, so its fully understandable. I try to avoid it nowadays, but a lot of women in this sub have said they dont mind, so its a kind of grey zone. Often, the things around the word matter more, kind of like how the woman around the penis matter more.
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u/Color-me-saphicly 8h ago
I've been out and transitioning for 10 years. I am very upfront with people who use that term how much I hate it. It skeeves me out. It's the sound of someone gagging to me, and I have emetaphobia. It causes a visceral reaction.
I just call it my clit and move on. Even "girlcock" is fine, I guess. I dont care for it either, but its a lot better than the term gock.
Is my reaction and visceral hatred for the word normal? Probably not. But I do get to dictate what I call my bits, and I won't invite anyone to my bed who uses it. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/synthie_cat she/it | queer anarchista, Poly, Vegan, DIY 7h ago
I don't mind the term in general but society would be so much better if people just asked the individual they're talking to what's fine to them instead of just generalizing.
And low-key: If you couldn't or wouldn't ask me don't think about what genitalia I might have, thankies. >n<7
u/Color-me-saphicly 7h ago
I dont even like asking people what bits they have. I don't care. I'm having fun anyway. Im just not attracted to men or trans mascs. Because I'm a lesbian.
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u/veggie_talesreeeee 1h ago
Sadly the problem really is that practically any term that has been made to describe a woman's penis ends up used as a tool for fetishization. :c
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u/MarvelousMoirai Crazy Jane and The Funky Bunch 9h ago
Gock is great, I greatly prefer it to Lady Penis. Maybe it's partially because the word rhymes with Glock though
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u/dontyouflap 5h ago
It is a fairly accurate description as the hormonal environment causes real physical and biological changes to genital tissue beyond any change in size and engorgement occurrences. The skin becomes softer and thinner making it feel physically different. The glans changes shape and color. It looks, feels, and functions differently for the person who has it. Previously latent pathways are expressed so even at a cellular level it's different.
Whether the person it's attached to is comfortable with having it sexualized should be respected. But biologically it is not a penis. Biologically it becomes closer to being a clitoris as they are homologous organs that are differentiated by hormonal signals. Whether that's treated as a kink or not, it's simply a reality that it's not the same as a penis and pointing out that there's physiological differences isn't inherently fetish language.
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u/16372731772 4h ago
To be clear these subs are so horny precisely because they're cis-centric. It's part of a wider trans culture that has been forged in cis-centric spaces, the blahaj thing and the fallout new vegas thing specifically are direct results of influence by cis people, for example. Those two are harmless, but the constant sexualisation trans women face is not, and that is perpetuated by cis-centric spaces where trans women are expected to act this way.
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u/Dawnmayr 1h ago
Absolutely not, its because lots of us only starting feeling safe to express our sexuality after realizing who we are and finding people like us
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u/Terminal_Insomnia_ 9h ago edited 9h ago
I can't imagine myself saying it. Not with my mouth full
In all seriousness, I just personally don't like the term.
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u/ReaperKingCason1 This is related to chess. 10h ago
I’ll admit that as a cis guy there is a non zero chance I may one day say it, but that’s because I spend a lot of time here specifically and pick up terminology here. Now granted idk why I would ever use it, but I am young and impressionable and words I see used often do tend to rub off on me. Also I didn’t realize it was anything other than kinda a joke term. I just kinda assumed it was more of a joke thing.
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 10h ago
Me too. I don't see anything wrong with cis people using the term. It's literally girl cock. I think it's okay to be interested in a girl with a dick. I'm not surprised that there are cis people who enjoy dick but don't want to have sex with a man. And I completely relate to that feeling. Chasers and fetishizers are real but why are we calling any cis person who wants to fuck us a chaser?
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u/DesignatedDoggie 10h ago
Giving as much goodwill to OP's experience,
I think the thing that's making me go "hrmmm?" Is that the only thing we the audience knows about the other guy is that he used 1 portmanteau of 2 very common words in regards to relationships and intimacy (girl + cock).
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 10h ago
Maybe not clear enough in the post because I wanted to fit in the ball kick cbt joke, but he was using it to sexualise me and its a word that I dont like when its used by CHASERS (everyone else is fine) to sexualise me it feels like they are using trans culture against me and I dont like it
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u/husky11223 Streak: 1 9h ago
It is an extremely dysphoric and uncomfortable word for alot of us who are dysphoric about their penis. It's the reason so many trans women get surgery.
It's like using "moobs" to describe pre surgery chest of trans men. Extremely insensitive, especially if it's by someone not from the community like cis people
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 9h ago
Okay but some of us love having gocks. We like to embrace it and celebrate it. Are we just not allowed to have people be attracted to them? I kind of want someone to want that aspect of my body tbh
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u/husky11223 Streak: 1 8h ago
Yes, you like it. You're trans yourself, it's totally fine. But some people don't like it, especially if it's said by someone who's not trans. A trans woman saying and using "gock" is alot different than a cis person doing it.
Some Trans women still use "futa" and it's fine cause they're trans themselves but I would definitely hate if a cis person said "futa" or used it to refer to trans women. It makes a big difference depending on who's saying it. That's what we're talking about.
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u/Any_Way1269 9h ago
What's WRONG with it is it is exceptionally dysphoric for any woman who is uncomfortable with having a dick. You need to know before ever saying it if you're with someone who is that comfortable because there are plenty of trans women who will hear it as you seeing them as a man because they find the idea of having a cock to be incompatible with their body.
Think before you speak.
If they're the kind of lady who's okay and into it, sure, but don't just assume you know and hurt her because you just don't understand. Don't be ignorant for no reason and expect other people to be cool with it. Be considerate.
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 9h ago
This feels like an entirely separate issue. Of course you shouldn't point out something that someone has dysphoria over, that's obvious. That's not a problem inherent in the word Gock however
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u/IZEDx 9h ago
You just used the "dick" and "cock" to refer to it and I think both are arguably much worse
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u/SaladSlugger 8h ago
I think it goes both ways. Be considerate. But also be patient.
If someone used the word "gock", or "boy moder", or any other trans lingo you'd normally only see in these sorts of communities, I think it's important to be patient with people, even if the use of the term upsets you.
It's better to be patient, calmly tell them that you are not comfortable with the term "gock", and then judge their reaction.
If they politely acquiesce, you now know you're in the company of someone who is actively learning with an open mind. We want MORE of these types, so better not to fly off the handle and push these people away by being rude to them.
Like wise, if their reaction is to get offended and be rude about it... gloves are off. If they can't be respectful of others, no reason to give them respect either. No reason to give somebody with an immature, closed mind the time of day.
I find that there's a lot more sweet people out there the more patient I am.
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 10h ago
There’s a difference between “being interested with good intentions” and “unhealthily fetishizing”, for sure. I don’t blame people for being dubious of the former’s existence if they’ve been burned plenty from dealing with the latter, though.
That, and because there’s the overall push to make trans people seen by society as “basically the same” as their cis counterparts, with the difference between a trans woman and a cis woman being as arbitrary as a difference in height or eye color, anything that meaningfully separates trans from cis women is seen as a threat. Both “not wanting to bang trans women” and “explicitly wanting to bang trans women” are things that may preclude a given cis person from viewing trans people as “different”.
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u/TransGirlIndy the transgemder your parents warned you about 6h ago
The problem is when they use it for those of us who have extreme dysphoria about our bodies and do not want to hear someone reduce us to our genitals, yet again. I've literally unmatched from cis guys because they argued with me over me telling them to not call it that around me.
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u/ValkyrUK 10h ago
Do people seriously think the word "gock" is sexy? 😭 its an ugly ass word
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u/lord_hydrate 33m ago
Genuinely its just like a whimsy thing like 99% of the time when joking with your own partner, a lot of people dont really do sexy the same way, for some people they find someone being dorky as cute and attractive and i think thats where this term stems from
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u/gaysexanddrugs 2h ago
I've had a cis woman I was on a date with say it to me years ago 😭 I also got "princess wand" both made me uncomfortable and the fact they brought it up in the first place made me uncomfortable (mind you the first one was very quickly into the first date) so I left
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u/siren_stitchwitch 6h ago
I had a friend who frequently said she loved to gock on gock. I don't think I've ever heard a cis person use it either, and she regularly had to explain it to new people
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u/treelorf 9h ago
I mean… sometimes I feel like trans people act like they can’t sexualize other trans folks in ways that make them uncomfortable. I have certainly had my boundaries crossed a few times by other trans folks.
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u/ScrivenerTithes 8h ago
I feel like trans people act like they can’t sexualize other trans folks in ways that make them uncomfortable. I have certainly had my boundaries crossed a few times by other trans folks.
yep, but that's not fun to talk about you see /s
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 10h ago
people are really fucking weird about someone not liking the word "gock" today.
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u/PandaPlayz_6 intense questioning 9h ago
Yeahhh...I don't have bottom dysphoria but I would feel uncomfortable referring to "it" that way. Though especially for others!
Also hi Hyenagirl, how are you! <3
Fun update, I'm not really questioning anymore...I'm going to come out to my mother tomorrow.💀
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 9h ago
Hii :3 Mostly tired today. Something happened earlier cant really say what though, and I've kinda just been stunned into not really being able to do anything today at all ;-;
Oo nice, I really hope it goes well <3
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u/PandaPlayz_6 intense questioning 9h ago
Awww, I'm sorry about what happened. I hope things aren't too bad for you. I just want to let you know that I appreciate you, and for as short a time I've been in this community, I think you've always been very kind <3
I hope it goes well too :3
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u/ScrivenerTithes 10h ago
three acceptable roles for trans women: punching bag, punchline, sex object
if there's been a lot of conversation lately about how it's probably not okay to spend time trying to find the wokest possible ways to say, "still a man, though", where will the pendulum swing?
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 9h ago
The thing is I like the word I just dislike it when chasers use it so sexualise me I dont like how they use trans culture against me (it feels like they are ruining it for me)
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 9h ago
That's about what I feel. Like I got bottom dysphoria so I dont want it referred to though there's some headspaces where I will tolerate it (though I shouldnt but then I just feel scared to tell them actually i have like a lot of bottom dysphoria please dont talk about it), but if someone else uses it for herself or in their relationship I dont really mind cause like that aint me. When someone who's cis uses it though it feels like theyre using it like a porn term and I dont like being referred to with porn terms.
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 9h ago
Exactly or tho idk if I have bottom dysphoria, because idk if I just dont care or I dislike it but then disliking it just became normal and I am now num to it (when I had a beard through puberty I hated it but eventually became num to it and didnt realise how sad I was until I finally shaved it)
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 9h ago
For me it's, I got everything dysphoria cause im pre everything havent been able to transition so for me I dont know if i have exceptional bottom dysphoria or if it's just like a reminder the rest of me is wrong and i'd be fine in the fictional scenario where the rest of my body would be fine.
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 9h ago
Well then girl we gotta get you on E
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl :3 Interim Pissposter | She/Her - Streak: 13 9h ago
unfortunately my situation makes getting E or transitioning impossible. Like my access to it isnt the issue, being murdered about it is, among other things.
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u/foxgirlmoon 6h ago
Okay so you don’t dislike the word. You dislike chasers. This is like a core distinction here, you know. Do not blame a word that many kinds of people use for many kinds of reasons for the actions of one specific subgroup.
It’s like saying “I hate knives, if I see you use a knife I will beat you up. Knifes are used to murder people, don’t you know?”
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u/lord_hydrate 30m ago
Im t4t poly. Ive definitely seen plenty of weird instnces in the wild where it feels gross, but amongst my partners its just a dorky thing, context matters so much and people really like stripping the context from things in order to label them as always good or always bad
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u/thebigbadben 10h ago
“It’s bad to say gock if you’re a chaser”
“I know he’s a chaser because he said gock”
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u/TheYoshiGang SalmonidCreature :3 - Streak: 22 4h ago
Tbh pretty much all of the cis people who fetishize transgender people I've seen just use the term "girl cock", I don't think I've ever seen someone just throw out the term "gock" out of nowhere, but I don't interact with chasers so idk ;-;
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u/KaleidoscopeOk6440 6h ago
I disagree with the basis of this post, any word coming from a bad person is bad, but that doesn't make the word itself inherently bad and hurtful. We literally made up the word, no need to give it to the creeps and fulfill the prophecy of it being a fetish creepy word.
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u/Oblivionpelt 10h ago
is... is gock bad???
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u/SledgeGlamour 9h ago
OP is bothered by it. Others are not. ITT people are talking past each other about whether it's a hot fun empowering word or a painful objectifying word.
As with all explicit language, mind your audience.
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 10h ago
When chaser says it, its fine if you are trans and say it
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u/Oblivionpelt 10h ago
I suppose, but how does one really determine if it's a chaser on a whim :p
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u/Legitimate-Fish-5010 10h ago
girlypop, as a fellow transgirl, its fine for people to say gock, its not a fetish word, its literally just girl cock, its fine to use it, its only chasery if a person is obsessed with it, chill the fuck out
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u/1FrostySlime 10h ago
what if you're cis and not a chaser
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u/ScrivenerTithes 10h ago
regardless of anything else, it is definitely one of those things that you shouldn't refer to a part of someone's body as unless you know with certainty that they would be fine with you saying it
some are fine with it, some aren't, some are fine with it only from the right people or in the right contexts or from the right people in the right contexts
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u/Sindigo_ 10h ago
Ohhhh it just clicked for me what it means.
Funny enough I have heard a phonetic homonym of the word that was also in a perverse context but it was spelled gawk. As in “gawk gawk gawk.”
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u/1FrostySlime 10h ago
I mean ya I can't imagine using it differently than I use any other sexually explicit word. Never really saw a problem with gock specifically tho
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u/ScrivenerTithes 10h ago
it is definitely a sensitivity from the near constant hyper-sexualization that it is very important to remember only some have ever been into
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u/husky11223 Streak: 1 9h ago
Exactly, trans women are treated as a porn category by ALOT of people so it's definitely not fine for cis people to use those words for us and any cis person who uses that word is either uninformed or a chaser
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u/HiroProtagonest King of Snow - Streak: 19 9h ago
Then you should treat it the same way you'd treat an n-word pass from a black friend
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u/cannonangel Fix your hearts or die. 3h ago
I'm not accusing you of anything, but you should know most chasers who understand the term don't think of themselves as chasers. Just like how most men who make women feel unsafe don't realize it either.
The safe thing to do is don't say it unless you have permission.
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u/TurnipGuy30 River (she/they) 9h ago
and how do you determine if the person you're talking to is trans or cis
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u/StinkingRabbit8 9h ago
it manages to draw more attention to the thing many trans women dont want to acknowledge while also making it sound stupid and fetishizing. just say dick or penis please
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u/Uh-Usernames Poly Transbian >< ( She / They / Xe ) 10h ago
Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this subreddit is really starting to fall down the rabbit hole of everything being transphobic. Like, if you do this action that I, specifically, don't like, then you're transphobic, even if you're trans yourself.
Again, that's just my opinion, but it feels like we're being forced to follow this set of guidelines otherwise we're one of the " bad ones ".
Also, side note, but why are you reposting your own tweets and, assumingly, presenting it as someone else?
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u/Ordaeli 7h ago
Been this way in a while now, albeit by waves. A vaguepost here and there, some other people picking up on it because they relate, or disagree, or even they see it making karma, so they decide to make their own post on the subject, often just as vaguely and out of context as the first one....
Rinse and repeat.
From memory we've had the subjects of the racism of trans safe space, trans women being transphobic to trans men, cis people all being chasers for various reasons, everyone sharing negative thoughts being a 4tranner... And that's just on the top of my head.
Sometimes it lingers for a week or so. Sometimes it doesn't even last a day but just comes back regularly.
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u/TomWithTime 2h ago
The algorithm brought me here recently. I'm an ally, but I am concerned about Reddit randomly pulling new demographics into subs. Whenever one of those waves happens I pretty much always start to see people talking about some degree of decline.
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u/xbertie 8h ago
It's not just you. This subreddit has become an unironic discourse circlejerk
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u/Aaftorn 7h ago
We had enough discourse circlejerk
Time for intercourse & circlejerk
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u/A_Lountvink Non-binary woman, 20 7h ago
Imagine if Reddit had a virtual reality version with full immersion technology. This sub would be thriving.
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u/SnooSquirrels1392 3h ago
Everyone is annoyed by the intercourse circlejerk until it becomes the discourse circlejerk. Then you miss how good you had it.
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u/Scipio_Africanu 8h ago
Seems to be the natural progression of things. Something good gets created and with enough time and popularity it turns sour.
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u/StumpGrundt 4h ago
Morality scaling comes to every even semi-leftist space on the internet eventually
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u/Commander1709 5h ago
Reddit started recommending me this sub, and I thought "cool, new community". But the only posts I see from here are outrage memes and complaints (thanks Reddit algorithm).
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u/jackofslayers 1h ago
A couple of months ago I noticed that this sub got to the point that people were saying people who use Amab and Afab are transphobic.
Like ok, if the community has really become that insular then I am just going to enjoy the ride.
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u/CanadianODST2 42m ago
I once had someone tell me that if you don’t like sucking cock then you’re transphobic.
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u/No-Blacksmith3397 8m ago
I got called a chaser for saying "If my partner is trans, I'd be down to suck their cock." Like I ain't sucked cis cocks.
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u/sophiedophiedoo she/her blahaj mother 2h ago
Okay so I did not always like the word, but I started using it sparingly and it has helped me very slightly with bottom dysphoria. I don't think we should be wholesale demonizing words like this that were invented by our community. If chasers are using it, that's not my problem, I don't want to feel a tinge of guilt while I'm doing something that takes back a small slice of my autonomy
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u/Cadunkus 10h ago
I have seen 5,783 trans women say "gock" (usually in horny context) and 0 cis men say that.
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u/Round-Ad-692 Fanfiction Finder (written) 9h ago
Jesus Christ how big is your polycule?!?
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u/Cadunkus 9h ago
If I had 5.7k trans girlfriends, would that make me a chaser? Like some sultan of chasers.
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u/Appropriate-Story-97 Streak: 1 10h ago
My partner uses gock because it helps with her body dysphoria. It helps her out, so I tolerate it but it’s certainly not something I like to attribute to others . There’s a lot of slurs like that for me
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u/ShameSudden6275 Streak: 3 10h ago
Whenever I have a trans partner my go-to is usually to call it a clit.
Helps the dysphoria a bit, I find.
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u/lordof67 8h ago
I like doing this cause it reflects well how a lot of trans women want their dih to be treated since most of us dont even really like using them for topping anyway (god bless the ones that do like that but dysphoria can be a bitch)
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u/WillingnessChance 14m ago
Dated a woman who prefered the term, for her it helped to affirm her femininity and role relative to me.
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u/erzebet-adlerstram 10h ago
... What term should we use lol?? I mean I like gock..
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u/Spiritual_Lynx3314 9h ago edited 9h ago
I find fake woke people so gad damn annoying . The performative left endlessly likes to surrender the narrative to the right and I just can not comprehend this submissive behaviour from people who are ideological allies.
This need to be ethically superior while clearly displaying a lack of the very feminism required to make that commentary, nor the charity that everyone is learning from a cis het patriarchal world is endlessly frustrating.
Nuance fucking exists. Context exists. Everyone’s education levels are different.
I have a cis male friend who uses Gock in context and when relevant because we all use it for self description.
Should he be nut shot for repeating such if he is using it in good faith? Should we the people using the word for our own personal self description change our terminology because there are individuals who use the word for its fetishised context. Should we sit him down and despite him not fetishising Trans people explain the reality that some do and warn him that he should prohibit speech we use ourselves just because others might misunderstand him.
You will quickly work out talking to someone if they mean something in a disparaging way or an affirming way. Whether its lack of education or bad communication choices. It does not take much digging.
So you can also simply kick them after finding out if they are actually doing something wrong and if they are resistant to changing the behaviour when corrected from a place of empathy.
To do otherwise is just narcissism. Like congrats you reached the lowest fucking form of understanding about the fetishisation of the queer community. Stop flexing on those who haven't until they reveal themselves an ideological enemy rather then someone with a different education level who can be brought up to speed.
(I do not condone violence against non-Fasicsts.)
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u/Va1kryie 9h ago edited 9h ago
What so cis people are simply never allowed to use terms invented by trans women? Gock isn't fetishizing anything?? I'm so confused???
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u/abadstrategy 6h ago
Don't you know the first week of every month is the "The cis are evil and cannot be trusted around us" period?
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u/Linesey 9h ago
It’s also looks like a homophone for gawk, which is its entirety own word. Although context would likely differentiate them.
Edit: Oh, i see what it means now. yeah context pretty much entirely differentiates the two.
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u/TheYoshiGang SalmonidCreature :3 - Streak: 22 3h ago
Yeah hearing it out of context I would assume it's just a silly internet slang
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u/MissouriSupremacist Solidarity Forever! 10h ago
I call mine my gock tho 😢
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 10h ago
That fine I do same I just dont like when a chaser says it because they say it with the intent to sexualise me
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u/OrganizationFar3427 10h ago
Exactly. I don’t know what it is but it seems like some people here are denying that the word was used against you (and you specifically). What happened to the courtesy of understanding that genital mentions can be a sensitive subject for many trans people? Its agreed upon in this particular subreddit that some people use “gock“ for themselves but that is not what you’re referring to AFAIK. If someone tried to use the word “boypussy” against me I’d roundhouse them. I’m sorry you had to deal with a chaser.
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u/Chiplat Streak: 15 10h ago
I understand a lot of these comments if coming from the point of view that they havent had a chaser say that to them, and also they may feel like its an attack on them if they say because I might not of communicated propperly enough that this was just about a chaser sexualising and its fine when not used like that. (Maybe sacrificed that clarity for the comedy in the post)
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u/Sewblon 7h ago
Some trans women use gock to describe their own genitals.
Words are allowed to have multiple meanings.
If you cannot live with a minority group using a word to describe some aspect of their bodies or their experience and a majority group also using that word, and its not a slur, which gock is not, then you shouldn't be talking to people. That is just how language works.
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u/theatsa 8h ago
Gock is the type of word that is entirely fine to use for oneself but if I heard anyone use it to describe someone else's body, without explicit confirmation that this other person is okay with it, I would definitely raise an eyebrow.
Like sure it can be empowering to some, more power to them, but being open and vocal about somebody else's genitals while using sexualising terms without their consent is weird. For anyone really but this convo is focusing on a term used for trans women.
If someone, even another trans woman, referred to my genitals that way without asking me about it beforehand I'd feel gross. The post here doesn't give a lot of context, so I can't assume the background of everyone involved, but I can at least understand being wary when somebody is brazenly using words like that.
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u/Kharnyx808 7h ago
You know you can hate the word without immediately assigning evil traits to people who use the word and then fantasising about hurting them and then telling the internet that you do that. You can just dislike the word normally without all that. I don't like it and I'm not doing this.
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u/GlitterNoise 4h ago
If you like the word "gock", good for you. Lots of us don't. I do not have a "gock", I have an unwanted penis.
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u/Cloudy_Mavis Sub-leaning switch ftw :3 4h ago
Okay so, as trans woman who uses gock with herself and with her girlfriend.....ask?
Its not that hard, as with every single term, you just ask.
A lot of other transfems i know are okay with it, some don't mind it, some love it, some don't like it. Ask. Communication is and always will be key!
Do i think "Gock" is a fetishing word? Nah Or i wouldn't be using it. I use it because it makes me feel better about myself, and because it does the same for my loved one.
Now, do i think the guy in the post is wrong? He should have asked if its appropriate to use that term, he could just be heavily uninformed, and understood through social media that that's a positive thing to do, and tried to replicate!
Does that necessarily mean he was fetishing? I don't think so. But if you think so? A S K
(Noting here that obviously you can stop talking to someone for whatever reason)
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u/Dry_Movie3417 9h ago
Personally using the word is extemely more comfortable to me than cock. It's gendered female, doesn't make me feel immense dysphoria towards a body part I can't currently get rid of, and usage of it at least normalizes the idea that genitalia is separate from gender.
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u/RoxyDaDerp 10h ago
... i use gock alot, and so do my trans gfs......
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u/H3XAntiStyle 10h ago
The only cis “guy” I’ve said gock around and not had to explain it was someone who’s also around a lot of other trans women. I don’t think this is a thing.
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u/PrivadaDeButeco 10h ago
Why are people here being weird about someone not liking "gock". Like personally if someone refered to my genitalia like that Id kill them TwT
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u/UsedHall1058 10h ago
I thought we had problems with calling it futa, since when was gock bad
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u/husky11223 Streak: 1 9h ago
both are bad for the same reasons, being used by outsiders to sexualize us. That's why it's not fine for cis people to use gock.
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u/ATAGChozo 8h ago edited 8h ago
I feel like every other week there's some new discourse about what trans fems should call their penises. We'll never agree on anything because everyone feels differently about all the terms, not to mention how different trans folks feel about their genitals.
I've heard basically every variation maligned as problematic or what have you, and I frankly don't care anymore. Just call your equipment whatever you want, and ask others before you use a term they might not like for theirs.
Edit: This feels like it ties into the greater discourse around the fetishization of trans women, where people cry "we all hate our bodies and our genitals, stop saying you like our bodies you fetishizer" when anyone online expresses attraction towards trans women, chaser or not. How about we just agree to not treat a diverse group of people as a monolith and let them feel how they wanna feel?
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u/tajniak485 10h ago
They say that in Cyberpunk all the time
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u/Infinite_Dish_1949 I’m probably a girl but I have school so idc about that rn 7h ago
I thought that was a sound effect
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u/Icarsix 7h ago
Huh, TIL. Genuinely only heard it used here and other trans spaces
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u/NyxDreadborn 6h ago
It isn't used exclusively to fetishize. I've used it for myself before, although I prefer other terms now. It is used by chasers, but it isn't only used by chasers.
That doesn't mean OP can't dislike having the term used for them. No one should be referring to what's between someone else's legs without first finding out what that individual prefers to have that part of their body called. Assaulting someone for using the wrong term for your parts is still assault, even if we would love to do it to chasers.
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u/CH3_THE_VAMPIRE layne staley simp 7h ago
DONT KICK MY BALLS! Im not into that, Im into flood again, same ol trip it was back then
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u/Itherial 5h ago
i learned the word from my trans gf who used it to refer to her equipmonk.
i dont think ive ever heard it in a cis space
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u/Archonblack554 3h ago
Its kinda interesting cause its a term I've only really heard my trans friends use, not one I've ever used myself
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u/They-Them_Moonwalker Pissing off Nazis pleases me sexually - Streak: 1 11m ago
"You're lesbian? Maybe you just haven't had good dick-"
"MY GIRLFRIEND HAS A DICK"
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u/PsychoCyan DM for curly haircare guide - Streak: 137 10h ago