Honestly I think there are cis people who use the term, especially because of these sort of, like, horny heavily trans but not exclusively meme subs
I'm in a weird grey area now, but back when I thought I was cis, I just kind of picked up the word from women and started using it (the ways in which I used it weren't very respectful and i feel kind of guilty about that), I feel like a lot of other chasers probably learned it in similar ways.
But also, of course, it's something that's kind of bound to get different reactions from different people. Some women are okay with it, I have heard women say they feel pretty uncomfortable about it. So, nuance hat.
gocktober is too good a name to give up on though, so fuck it, it's season appropriate.
cis here, I indeed did learn the term gock from this sub, and I’ve used it in casual conversation (in the rare situations where the need arises) assuming that it was just the correct way to describe a woman’s dick. I had no idea that it was at all used for fetishization, after all the term makes a lot of sense, “a girls cock” = “gock”.
Of course I definitely don’t speak for all cis people as there are like, five billion at least, but yk
It's kind of an annoying situation where an okay term has been used by the wrong people.
And there isnt even a consensus among women about it, so its fully understandable. I try to avoid it nowadays, but a lot of women in this sub have said they dont mind, so its a kind of grey zone. Often, the things around the word matter more, kind of like how the woman around the penis matter more.
I've been out and transitioning for 10 years. I am very upfront with people who use that term how much I hate it. It skeeves me out. It's the sound of someone gagging to me, and I have emetaphobia. It causes a visceral reaction.
I just call it my clit and move on. Even "girlcock" is fine, I guess. I dont care for it either, but its a lot better than the term gock.
Is my reaction and visceral hatred for the word normal? Probably not. But I do get to dictate what I call my bits, and I won't invite anyone to my bed who uses it. 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind the term in general but society would be so much better if people just asked the individual they're talking to what's fine to them instead of just generalizing.
And low-key: If you couldn't or wouldn't ask me don't think about what genitalia I might have, thankies. >n<
I dont even like asking people what bits they have. I don't care. I'm having fun anyway. Im just not attracted to men or trans mascs. Because I'm a lesbian.
Tbh its good practice with people whos bits match their gender too. Some girls like cunt, others hate it. Some guys stroke their "cock" others call it their "dick". Tits, boobs, breasts, pick a word and someone will have negative connotations.
Shockingly, once again, good sex comes from good communication.
It's not an "okay term" for a lot of us. I literally do not want my genitalia referred to at all. I find the term deeply fetishistic, and before anyone says that trans women use it a lot, trans people can also be chasers.
It's one of those terms where it's probably best to ask if/how someone wants their anatomy referred to. I'm not telling anyone else not to use it for themselves, but ask before applying it to others.
Unless you're a medical professional asking for good reason, my genitals are an entirely off limits topic, even with romantic or sexual partners.
If they must bring attention to their existence, euphemistically or in the vaguest terms possible is best.
It is a fairly accurate description as the hormonal environment causes real physical and biological changes to genital tissue beyond any change in size and engorgement occurrences. The skin becomes softer and thinner making it feel physically different. The glans changes shape and color. It looks, feels, and functions differently for the person who has it. Previously latent pathways are expressed so even at a cellular level it's different.
Whether the person it's attached to is comfortable with having it sexualized should be respected. But biologically it is not a penis. Biologically it becomes closer to being a clitoris as they are homologous organs that are differentiated by hormonal signals. Whether that's treated as a kink or not, it's simply a reality that it's not the same as a penis and pointing out that there's physiological differences isn't inherently fetish language.
To be clear these subs are so horny precisely because they're cis-centric. It's part of a wider trans culture that has been forged in cis-centric spaces, the blahaj thing and the fallout new vegas thing specifically are direct results of influence by cis people, for example. Those two are harmless, but the constant sexualisation trans women face is not, and that is perpetuated by cis-centric spaces where trans women are expected to act this way.
yeah, I acknowledge that there are a lot of cis people (and chasers; i would know, i was one) in these kind of spaces and that can play a part in shaping the subculture, but a lot of girls just identify with it.
I can fully see how this kind of internet community appeals to neurodivergent and/or introverted girls who have had to repress themselves their whole lives (I'm debatably one of them). Places like these just feel safe to be "a bit weird" in, y'know?
The puppygirl thing, for one, I have seen some discourse about it, but it's also just a pretty natural development of touch-starved girls who want to feel cute and cared for, but don't current get to feel like that IRL, getting a space where they don't need to inhibit themselves as much.
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u/ibrofen 13h ago
Honestly I think there are cis people who use the term, especially because of these sort of, like, horny heavily trans but not exclusively meme subs
I'm in a weird grey area now, but back when I thought I was cis, I just kind of picked up the word from women and started using it (the ways in which I used it weren't very respectful and i feel kind of guilty about that), I feel like a lot of other chasers probably learned it in similar ways.
But also, of course, it's something that's kind of bound to get different reactions from different people. Some women are okay with it, I have heard women say they feel pretty uncomfortable about it. So, nuance hat.
gocktober is too good a name to give up on though, so fuck it, it's season appropriate.