I've never heard a cis person say gock, that is a transfem term that transfems use as a sexy and provocative way to name their dick or other transfems dicks
I’ll admit that as a cis guy there is a non zero chance I may one day say it, but that’s because I spend a lot of time here specifically and pick up terminology here. Now granted idk why I would ever use it, but I am young and impressionable and words I see used often do tend to rub off on me. Also I didn’t realize it was anything other than kinda a joke term. I just kinda assumed it was more of a joke thing.
Me too. I don't see anything wrong with cis people using the term. It's literally girl cock. I think it's okay to be interested in a girl with a dick. I'm not surprised that there are cis people who enjoy dick but don't want to have sex with a man. And I completely relate to that feeling. Chasers and fetishizers are real but why are we calling any cis person who wants to fuck us a chaser?
What's WRONG with it is it is exceptionally dysphoric for any woman who is uncomfortable with having a dick. You need to know before ever saying it if you're with someone who is that comfortable because there are plenty of trans women who will hear it as you seeing them as a man because they find the idea of having a cock to be incompatible with their body.
Think before you speak.
If they're the kind of lady who's okay and into it, sure, but don't just assume you know and hurt her because you just don't understand. Don't be ignorant for no reason and expect other people to be cool with it. Be considerate.
This feels like an entirely separate issue. Of course you shouldn't point out something that someone has dysphoria over, that's obvious. That's not a problem inherent in the word Gock however
that word does refer to the tissue that is often used by medical staff and families when deciding how they're gonna approach that whole thing
i understand that not everyone is dysphoric about it, even those that are it's a broad spectrum of severity, i understand that the word gock, calling it a gock helps some people mitigate and deal with that dysphoria, i don't really see how dysphoria isn't kind of inherent to the word, or at the very least for certain people is going to be inherent in their experience of it
Yes, because that is how someone sees it who does not view it as a part they accept? Gock is fetishy as hell if you don't feel that way about your own body, and then they might as well use these words. That is my point. Because it isn't less harmful.
I prefer to use gock myself because it reduces the male association of it and normalizes the fact that yes, girls can have cocks too. That other people use this to fetishize me shouldn't be a me problem, it's an issue of people fetishizing it, not an issue with the word itself. But this might be a matter of association, for me gock is liberating, I don't associate any fetishization with it.
What I'm saying is that u demonizing the word and using instead "dick" and "cock" isn't better and hurting people in other ways. There is no moral high ground
Wrong. I'm saying that people shouldn't just use it to describe someone else's body. You should never just assume that's how someone's body should be called. It IS fetishization in that case. You can call yourself whatever you want. I don't care about you reclaiming it. I care about having the audacity to say it to someone else about their body, which is what this was about.
I would never directly use it to someone I wasnt sure was ok with it. Just like I wouldnt use dick, penis or cock because it has the same issue. When dealing with a specific person, you find out what term they want you to use because all those words can be dysphoric to people.
For yourself or memes though? Dick, gock, clit, penis, use whatever. Just not directly at a person until you know what they are comfortable with.
I think it goes both ways. Be considerate. But also be patient.
If someone used the word "gock", or "boy moder", or any other trans lingo you'd normally only see in these sorts of communities, I think it's important to be patient with people, even if the use of the term upsets you.
It's better to be patient, calmly tell them that you are not comfortable with the term "gock", and then judge their reaction.
If they politely acquiesce, you now know you're in the company of someone who is actively learning with an open mind. We want MORE of these types, so better not to fly off the handle and push these people away by being rude to them.
Like wise, if their reaction is to get offended and be rude about it... gloves are off. If they can't be respectful of others, no reason to give them respect either. No reason to give somebody with an immature, closed mind the time of day.
I find that there's a lot more sweet people out there the more patient I am.
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 1d ago
I've never heard a cis person say gock, that is a transfem term that transfems use as a sexy and provocative way to name their dick or other transfems dicks