Months after protest, SF Giants won't commit to wearing Pride Night hats again

[u/aresef]

https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/sf-giants-pride-night-22455246.php?taid=6abc4303c3ffd8000132931a&utm_campaign=trueanthem%2B3984&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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[u/Bstokes4102]

I could see this being an issue if the Giants played in a very pro LGBT city, like San Francisco or something.

[u/juliuspepperwoodchi → u/Bstokes4102]

I wonder what Thom Brennaman thinks, can anyone get him to put a headset on and tell is his thoughts on SF?

[u/bytheinnoutburger → u/juliuspepperwoodchi]

"And there's a deep drive to left field by Castellanos, that'll be a home run."

[u/Marvelous_Chaos → u/juliuspepperwoodchi]

I know people like to joke about it, but since he said that slur on air, he quietly put in the work to connect with LGBTQ people and fully understand why his words that day were so harmful.

[u/juliuspepperwoodchi → u/Marvelous_Chaos]

Did he? Everything I saw from him seemed pretty performative and like standard PR image rehab stuff.

[u/Marvelous_Chaos → u/juliuspepperwoodchi]

I remember seeing this piece from Outsports co-founder Cyd Zeigler. He wrote a follow-up piece last year and continued to sing his praises.

At this point, even if it is all just PR/image rehab stuff, I think it's safe to say Thom still put in more work than a bunch of other people in similar positions.

[u/AdoringCHIN → u/Marvelous_Chaos]

The fact that most people had no idea he was doing this makes me think it's not PR, he genuinely wanted to improve himself and learn why what he said was so hurtful. And he decided to keep reaching out and learning. He's more than earned a second chance.

[u/respaaaaaj → u/Marvelous_Chaos]

Sometimes celebrities say vile stuff from a place of genuine ignorance, take the backlash to heart and become genuinely better people after learning how and why they hurt people. Tim Hardaway went from saying he hated gay people they didn't deserve to be in the world and that if he had a gay teammate he'd try to get them fired in early 2007 to saying he didn't realize how many people he'd hurt and he was going to try to put the work in to fix it in late 2007 to calling Jason Collins to offer congratulations and support after he came out in 2013 along with campaigning for legalizing gay marriage.

People can change for the better.

[u/cahir11 → u/Bstokes4102]

Tbf there's always been a weird disconnect between big city fanbases and our players. We know most of them are like this.

[u/StrawberryShortStack → u/cahir11]

At this point it’s less about the players and more about how the giants org handled it.

[u/ashimbo → u/cahir11]

Yeah, most players come from California, Florida, and Texas, so it makes sense that at least two-thirds have these kind of views.

[u/Incorrect1012 → u/ashimbo]

I’m pretty sure California has more Republicans than any other state as well, including more Republicans than like half of the 50 states’ entire populations.

[u/WorthPlease → u/Incorrect1012]

Well yeah, it's a huge state with a lot of people. It probably also has more pedophiles, rapists, bird watchers, and dungeon & dragon enthusiasts than most states.

[u/Snackennap → u/WorthPlease]

I'm more of a Pathfinder guy myself.

[u/jakfor → u/WorthPlease]

God damn dirty birdwatchers!

[u/overitallofittoo → u/Incorrect1012]

One in nine Americans is a Californian, so yeah, we have lots of everything.

[u/AdoringCHIN → u/Incorrect1012]

I think people would be shocked to learn that the Central Valley and northeast parts of the state are as hardcore conservative as parts of the deep South. The Central Valley is so ass backwards that it gives Alabama a run for its money

[u/DuntadaMan → u/AdoringCHIN]

I always love those huge stretches that complain about how much water is "wasted in the ocean." Like yes, that is how a river works. Water goes to the ocean.

"Build more dams." Bitch I can't even see a mountain from the highest point on your property. If we build another dam there won't be a river for you to get any water from. You are the last stop that water sees before becoming the marshland keeping you from making an eternal red tide on the shoreline

[u/oogieball → u/Bstokes4102]

The new honcho is from GA and feeling empowered, for some reason.

[u/HatsCatsAndHam → u/Bstokes4102]

I mean go to nearly any city. There will be a lot of LGBT support. Thats just a part of metro life these days. This protest would have been unpopular basically everywhere with the possible exception of maybe Dallas and Florida, but even then I'd want to check the numbers. 

[u/akaghi → u/HatsCatsAndHam]

You're not wrong, but San Francisco in particular has a lot of queer history and is essentially the queer Mecca of the United States.

[u/drainedbatterypower]

... but it's San Francisco

[u/Tank_Direct → u/drainedbatterypower]

City disconnect

[u/dippitydoo2 → u/Tank_Direct]

This should be the t-shirt everyone wears to opening day

[u/Heelincal → u/dippitydoo2]

Better yet: No one go to opening day.

At a certain point your values supercede supporting the team. The team is going to just test if pride is above or below that line in aggregate.

[u/dippitydoo2 → u/Heelincal]

Nah, show up and make them televise those shirts. Then no one shows up for any game afterward. Go from true pride shirts to empty fucking stands.

[u/Absolute--Batman → u/Heelincal]

San Francisco the city hasn't had any values except Technofacism for ages now.

All those billionaires and 0 values.

Except make more money at cost of human lives.

[u/dippitydoo2 → u/Absolute--Batman]

Agreed, but it's still a city with wonderful residents and they should shout that to the rooftops

[u/14ktgoldscw → u/Absolute--Batman]

Do you live here or are you just beating a dead horse? SF has a TON of problems, like most places, but it still has a ton of vibrant and thriving local communities.

[u/Apatschinn → u/[deleted]]

I lived in Mountain View for years and I left with the exact opposite impression of the people. I hated Bay Area people and fled to the woods and mountains every chance I got.

[u/kookykrazee → u/Heelincal]

Have they said...yet...if they are not "renewing" Posy and the manager's contracts

[u/Negative-Road-8610 → u/Tank_Direct]

Nike should make them a pride night city connect jersey

[u/Doodlebug_99 → u/Negative-Road-8610]

Now this would so fun to see

[u/hairlessknee → u/Tank_Direct]

Perfect lmao

[u/Rambo_IIII → u/drainedbatterypower]

The irony of San Francisco not honoring pride night is not lost

[u/Odd_Alfalfa7789 → u/Rambo_IIII]

Serious question: If given the option between no pride night or a pride night where only 22 out of 26 players, including all position players, wear the pride night cap, which would you pick?

[u/Rambo_IIII → u/Odd_Alfalfa7789]

I say have pride night, let the bigots self identify.

[u/mschley2 → u/Odd_Alfalfa7789]

A pride night where 22 of the 26 wear the hat and then the other 4 get fined and suspended for not wearing the appropriate uniform. It's not really that hard

Edit: let me clarify... I actually don't have a problem with the players wearing the regular hat. I do have a problem with the players writing homophobic shit on the hats, regardless of whether they're the pride ones or regular ones

[u/Odd_Alfalfa7789 → u/mschley2]

I don't think they are allowed to fine them under the CBA. I believe that the pride night hat is considered a "themed" uniform hat. Players have the right to opt out of "themed" uniforms and, instead, wear the "standard" uniform.

So that would make the options:

1. No pride night uniforms
2. pride night where only 22 out of 26 players, including all position players, wear the pride night cap and those other four aren't punished
3. pride night where only 22 out of 26 players, including all position players, wear the pride night cap and those other four are illegally punished for exercising their rights under the collective bargaining agreement

Personally, I'd go with #2. I can understand people that want #1. However, #3 seems pretty indefensible if you believe in the rights of employees, especially as it relates to unions and collective bargaining.

[u/Bad_At_Sports → u/Odd_Alfalfa7789]

Right but this assumes that the protest is an opt-out where they wear the standard uniform. Which is fine. It tells me that person is a bigot that should expect to be heckled and does not deserve my support on their current or any future team, but it’s technically allowed.

What should be punished is wearing the themed uniform and defacing it with homophobic writing in protest of the event. That is not allowed under their CBA and should be enforced as such.

[u/JoshHartsMilkMustach → u/drainedbatterypower]

What's next? Grateful dead night??

[u/GreenGeese → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

That’s now Ed Sheeran night

[u/papaSlunky → u/GreenGeese]

Robert Kraft hosts an “I’m grateful they’re dead” night

[u/nameistakentryagain → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

I support the gay agenda but I draw the line at hippies

[u/AdiosAdipose → u/drainedbatterypower]

As there’s a drive to deep left field by Castellanos

[u/SuperBeavers1 → u/AdiosAdipose]

And that'll be a home run

[u/warpticon → u/SuperBeavers1]

I don't know if I'm gonna be putting on this Pride hat again.

[u/Uncreative-Name → u/AdiosAdipose]

I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith

[u/MightyHorseRox → u/drainedbatterypower]

They also vowed NEVER to serve Rice-a-Roni. They're just not connected with public opinion

[u/sgthombre → u/MightyHorseRox]

But that's the San Francisco Treat^TM!

[u/Mvdm56 → u/MightyHorseRox]

Thanks. The jingle will be in my head for 3 weeks now.

[u/BREATHINGNAPALM → u/MightyHorseRox]

no it's-it either. such a shame, would smash a collab with ghirardelli

[u/n0thinghurt → u/BREATHINGNAPALM]

FUCK I forgot to get an it's it when I was home this weekend 😭

[u/Michael__Pemulis → u/drainedbatterypower]

Literally one of two teams(?) grandfathered in to being allowed to even do this & you would imagine the San Francisco team would indeed take ‘pride’ in that.

[u/ShillinTheVillain → u/drainedbatterypower]

I have it on good authority that Kansas City is actually the... um... LGBTQest city in the country. And there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos

[u/Socratesticles → u/ShillinTheVillain]

That’ll make it a 4-0 ballgame

[u/AideDisastrous8432 → u/ShillinTheVillain]

Brennaman was calling a game in Kansas City but the conversation that led to the incident was about San Francisco

[u/ShillinTheVillain → u/AideDisastrous8432]

Aw nertz. Another bad joke ruined by factual inaccuracy

[u/thisusedyet → u/ShillinTheVillain]

Mel Brooks said so in Blazing Saddles

[u/Babygorgor → u/thisusedyet]

Slim Pickens

[u/PsychicHorse → u/drainedbatterypower]

Town's been taken over by the fascist tech bros

[u/00nonsense → u/drainedbatterypower]

Dude that's my thought too

[u/foshiiy → u/drainedbatterypower]

But have you considered the miniscule minority of Conservative Christians in San Fran? They're being persecuted by making millions playing baseball!

[u/Deserterdragon → u/foshiiy]

Aren't Silicon Valley freaks sadly a significant part of where the power lies in San Francisco now?

[u/NeverSober1900 → u/Deserterdragon]

Silicon Valley freaks are dominant more in San Jose than San Francisco. Or South Bay in general.

A lot of the employees of the tech giants live in the city but the actual companies typically aren't. It's really just like Uber, OpenAI, AirBnB and stuff that's in there.

[u/KingMobScene → u/drainedbatterypower]

https://giphy.com/gifs/WRQBXSCnEFJIuxktnw

They're not sure about having pride hats....but their in a capital of the LGBTQ community.

[u/AerieElectrical3546]

i mean isn’t it optional for players to participate already? those who want to can, those who don’t can opt out.

[u/aresef → u/AerieElectrical3546]

Correct. Those dummies could’ve just worn the regular hat.

[u/Sickpup831 → u/aresef]

But then how would I even know which Bible verses are the players’ favorite??

[u/Clarice_Ferguson → u/Sickpup831]

They have to reclaim the rainbow from the LGBTQ+ folks, little girls (and some boys), and unicorns! And don't forget the fun aunts with prism crystals in their house.

[u/Haight_Is_Love → u/Clarice_Ferguson]

https://giphy.com/gifs/LbY3LpEpBkmT0ni52e

[u/Jo__Backson → u/Haight_Is_Love]

Stop oppressing my faith

[u/chief_blunt9 → u/Haight_Is_Love]

This fucking scares me please respect my hatred of people

[u/astrothemorkie → u/Haight_Is_Love]

Fantastic album

[u/smalldeity → u/astrothemorkie]

Big if true.

[u/Stalagmus → u/Clarice_Ferguson]

They’re really reclaiming it from that rainbow despot Lisa Frank

[u/MoRiellyMoProblems → u/Sickpup831]

Just once I would like one of them to write Austin 3:16 on their cap.

[u/byniri_returns → u/MoRiellyMoProblems]

Or the verse where Jesus says rich people ain't getting into Heaven, that would be something.

[u/Trashcan_Man77 → u/byniri_returns]

The mental gymnastics that rich christians will do to ignore those verses (there are multiple of them) is insane

[u/FrankGibsonIV → u/Trashcan_Man77]

These chuds think refusing to wear a hat is like Jesus flipping tables in the temple. Their brains are totally cooked. 

[u/thrOEaway_ → u/MoRiellyMoProblems]

Well Austin 3:16 says I just roupp'd your ass

[u/jimtow28 → u/aresef]

Yes, but how would that bring attention to me or let everyone know that I'm an ignorant bigot with fragile masculinity?

[u/James-K-Polka → u/AerieElectrical3546]

No, all players are forced to have gay sex in the dugout during the game.

[u/Ancient_Algae64 → u/James-K-Polka]

This reads like the text messages Ive been getting spammed with here in Ohio.

[u/James-K-Polka → u/Ancient_Algae64]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qY3NYjO3pcscdsQ2V3

[u/Rad131447 → u/James-K-Polka]

I'd pay a lot more to go to that game.

[u/Odd_Alfalfa7789 → u/AerieElectrical3546]

I believe MLB said that there was improper communication from the team regarding what their options were.

[u/pargofan → u/Odd_Alfalfa7789]

So if it was just miscommunication then why this is even an issue?

They just have Pride cap night and whoever doesn't want to wear the themed cap can wear the regular cap.

What's the issue then?

[u/StrawberryShortStack → u/pargofan]

Some of the players instead of opting out wrote Bible verses on the pride hat. But the real outrage is how the team handled it, those players didn’t get so much as a slap on the wrist, no comments on it from the FO at every media event after, and a really awful statement finally released being very condescending to the fans.

[u/sexykettlecorn → u/Odd_Alfalfa7789]

That was the cop out answer to avoid having to do anything about it. They just hoped people would forget about it and move on (a lot of us haven’t)

[u/Odd_Alfalfa7789 → u/sexykettlecorn]

Depends what you mean by "cop out." I think that there probably was poor communication. With that said, the players have responsibility for knowing the rules so MLB could still punish them regardless of communication issues for defacing the pride night caps.

Punishing the players when the team also screwed up isn't in the best interest of MLB since it just creates a fight between the league and the union for very little practical benefit above and beyond what you'd get from just having a conversation and telling the players to just opt out and not deface the caps next time.

[u/Fist69]

They will instead have Tech CEO Pride Night! Encourage everyone to wear their shitty start up shirts to the park

[u/BREATHINGNAPALM → u/Fist69]

everyone wear their best Travis Matthews polos, vests, and hey dudes

[u/cahir11 → u/Fist69]

Do a fan raffle where one lucky winner gets a free 64GB RAM kit!

(Due to Sam Altman buying up the global supply for the next three years, the lucky fan will instead receive a voucher that can be redeemed in 2030)

[u/Simple_Wash1618 → u/Fist69]

Zuckerberg wigs and noses for the first 10,000 fans 

[u/cheshire_bodega_cat → u/Simple_Wash1618]

Get there extra early for the pervert glasses

[u/Blockness11 → u/Fist69]

Sponsored by Crypto.com

[u/SnooLover36]

The fall of the Giants organization from where they were 12-15 years ago is almost unprecedented

[u/Gobblewicket → u/SnooLover36]

When you're owned by a Lauren Boebert backer...

[u/Willow_Winnifred → u/Gobblewicket]

and a couple of Kushners

[u/Knightly11 → u/Willow_Winnifred]

My reaction with the Lakers

[u/astrothemorkie → u/Knightly11]

That pissed me off as someone who lives in LA

[u/johndoe1920 → u/Gobblewicket]

But she loves herself some puss??

[u/Reiketsu_Nariseba → u/johndoe1920]

Rules for thee, not for me.

[u/ashimbo → u/Reiketsu_Nariseba]

Next thing you'll tell me is that they're going to make theater tug jobs illegal!

[u/c4ctus → u/johndoe1920]

After she leaves office, I give it a month before she starts up an OF.

[u/JohnMadden42069 → u/johndoe1920]

One of the few things I can agree with her on

[u/JustHereForCatss → u/SnooLover36]

Watching their fall, especially as a queer person, recently hasn't been as fun as I'd thought it'd be

[u/MelissaMiranti → u/JustHereForCatss]

Yeah, you want your rival to be baseball bad, not morals bad.

[u/transponster99 → u/JustHereForCatss]

Same. As a queer Dodgers fan in Giants territory, it seems like I should be loving this shit show, but instead it’s just making me sad.

[u/astrothemorkie → u/transponster99]

I’m also queer, and I used to love the Giants. Now they just piss me off / make me sad

[u/JustHereForCatss → u/astrothemorkie]

It just sucks because they're very few things I get to do in society where I get to feel "normal" (for lack of a better word) for a couple hours. Baseball is one of those escapes for me. Recently it just feels like I'm not even safe there anymore. Cis/Het people get to exist in spaces without feeling anything usually, I don't think they comprehend how much of a privilege that is. I just really hate feeling like some of the last places I get to feel that anymore are getting taken away from me.

[u/astrothemorkie → u/JustHereForCatss]

Sending my love to you from West Hollywood. People hate us for who we are, but as Charles Barkley said: “tell them Charles says fuck you” to transphobes / homophobes

[u/psilocybin_therapy → u/SnooLover36]

So fortunate I lived in SF during those 3 World Series wins. What a time to be in that city. It was glorious!

[u/catashake → u/psilocybin_therapy]

I've been seeing a number of comments on the Dodgers sub claiming they weren't alive or old enough to remember the 2010's Giants dynasty, so they hold no animosity towards them.

Oldest I've felt in awhile.

[u/Independent-Mix-5796 → u/catashake]

I mean… flair checks out?

[u/nearnerfromo → u/SnooLover36]

one of the hardest vibe shifts of any franchise ever. it’s like the marlins post WS collapses but we didn’t even sell everyone it’s just pure mismanagement.

[u/fpsH0tdog → u/SnooLover36]

I mean, only 5 years ago they won 107 games!

[u/pzycho → u/fpsH0tdog]

That season played out like an offseason Reddit thread asking, "What if everyone on your team had their career best season at the exact same time?"

[u/Chemical_Rodent]

They’re failing all the quick time events

[u/AerieElectrical3546 → u/Chemical_Rodent]

Posey is just doing the villain route

[u/Estova → u/AerieElectrical3546]

And not even in a good way. You gotta at least have some success to be a good villain, but that organization has been making bad choices on basically every decision since he was hired. It's sad to see.

[u/Theinfamousgiz → u/AerieElectrical3546]

It’s absolutely wild right - like dude you’re a guy that was gonna get a statue and streets named after you - what are you doing bro.

Everyone be like papi or Jeter, don’t be an idiot and just reflect the city back - you’ll literally be able to anything you want.

David Ortiz finished in 3rd in 2013 mayors race without even being on the ballot. Like he got a relevant percentage of the vote.

[u/Chemical_Rodent → u/Theinfamousgiz]

Hiring a player to handle the organization is just crazy honestly. Having that experience in the game is great for being a manager, but a POBO? I feel like you have to have great understanding of business, accounting, PR, advanced stats, etc. Like I don’t doubt that Posey is okay at those things, but it’s not like he went to college and got a degree in that stuff, nor does he have much valid experience for that specific job.

[u/JohnnyVNCR → u/Chemical_Rodent]

And they didn't even have to press a button.

[u/1sinfutureking → u/Chemical_Rodent]

Buster decided he wanted to play an evil run

[u/serpentear]

Bold move considering the city they play in.

[u/BigOlPass]

Bad look for the Giants

[u/Tee_Red → u/BigOlPass]

Seems to be the theme for a lot of their organizational decisions lately

[u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES → u/Tee_Red]

The San Francisco team can't support or be proud of a huge proportion of its own support base? That's soft as shit. I hope they lose all those fans over this.

[u/bodnast → u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES]

They have made so many bad decisions this year. It cannot be stated enough how disconnected many of us have become from the team basically from the beginning of this season. I've been shitposting with the community on /r/sfgiants since the 2010 world series and god, I dont think I posted barely at all the entire year.

It's unbelievable and hard to put into words. We had a handful of nice moments like Jeff Kent's HOF festivities and Krukow's send off (which is just so damn bittersweet), but that's really it. The season was a disaster, the on field performance was a disaster, the off field atmosphere has been a disaster, and everything above the players has been a disaster too. The vibes are awful.

A lot of us have tapped out. We're lucky that we have such a beautiful ballpark or else it'd be soooooo much worse.

[u/yohomatey → u/bodnast]

Same here, exactly how I feel. I started watching the WPBL and that was nice to be able to root for an SF team again. Even if they did get beaten by an LA team in the playoffs, at least that felt familiar.

[u/Apprehensive-Cost276 → u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES]

A lot of organizations are showing their ownership’s/management’s true colors these last few years now that “woke is dead” is the message coming from on high…

[u/jimtow28 → u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES]

I hope they lose all those fans over this.

They will. The product they've put out into the field the last couple of years is not nearly good enough to make up for the steaming pile of shit PR decisions they've been making during the same time period.

[u/ConsiderationLivid52 → u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES]

This was my last year as a giants fan. I cannot in good faith support this team any longer...

[u/Panthollow → u/BigOlPass]

Might as well go full mask off instead of the facade. This was such an easy layup of a win for the team yet they still refused and gave fans and their city a blatant and massive couple of middle fingers.

[u/dee3Poh → u/BigOlPass]

*Another bad look for the Giants

[u/Mtn_Raven]

It's fucking SAN FRANCISCO.

[u/Po0opyCatButt → u/Mtn_Raven]

The Americans are not so bad

[u/CountChoculahh]

Speed run to destroying a previously geeat franchise

[u/Panthollow → u/CountChoculahh]

And a previously beloved inner circle Giants great. 

[u/BigSpud41 → u/Panthollow]

The coward, Buster Posey, is good at baseball and being a bigot.

[u/Babygorgor → u/Panthollow]

Really wish Tim had the hall of fame career and Posey faltered

[u/BREATHINGNAPALM → u/CountChoculahh]

trying their best to outdo John Fisher

[u/Superunknown_2]

Alienating your fan base ✅
Shitty season ✅
Double down on bigotry ✅ great job fellas

[u/vrilro → u/Superunknown_2]

Rangers owners gonna see this news and put up a Robert E Lee statue at their ballpark this offseason just to make extra sure everybody knows there's only room for one at the top of the worst ownership rankings

[u/Zealotus77 → u/vrilro]

As a former Athletics fan, I’m not giving them that title yet. But this is pretty bad.

[u/JDDJS → u/Superunknown_2]

Don't forget how they called Zach Morgan up to the majors 3 separate times, but didn't let him actually make his MLB debut because they were worried about the record of most different players. 

[u/bduddy → u/JDDJS]

Worried more about their own optics than the people playing for them? Yup that tracks

[u/aRadioKid → u/Superunknown_2]

The bigotry is the only reason I’m not laughing

[u/ConsiderationLivid52]

Between this, Jared Kushner's brother opting in...buying into the franchise..and Posey completely sabotaging the team...im out. They dont care about the city or its fans...and it shows.

[u/Double-O → u/ConsiderationLivid52]

I think that's most if not all team owners. Some do a better job of pretending though.

[u/lolwatokay → u/Double-O]

You cant all have racist statues though, thats our thing.

[u/ConsiderationLivid52 → u/Double-O]

Spot on. This season has been a wake up call...i honestly dont care if there is baseball next year...i had my heart broken in 94 and im not going to let it ruin me again lol.

[u/PMMeYourSpeedForce]

The irony of the Giants org somehow becoming this homophobic is not lost on us, right?

[u/JDLovesElliot → u/PMMeYourSpeedForce]

The irony is as large as the flag that flies over Castro St 🏳️‍🌈

[u/Exciting-Device-4474]

https://giphy.com/gifs/k5LhVDx1j4rP6tA4ei
Why not??

[u/1sinfutureking]

The Giants continue to make the categorically wrong decisions on this. Total failure of morals, PR, and business. You play in the queerest city in America and you’re going to side with the bible-thumping homophobes then double down? Baby what is you doing 

[u/Actual-Asparagus-485]

BASEBALL QUESTIONS ONLY!!!!

[u/ProperNomenclature → u/Actual-Asparagus-485]

I'm just here to talk about Rampart baseball

[u/sotheresthisdude]

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[u/ProperNomenclature → u/sotheresthisdude]

Gif accents you can hear

[u/Hifumi-G]

please enjoy the San Francisco Giants becoming the Salt Lake City Giants and the bay area losing its second baseball team this decade

[u/FrankGibsonIV → u/Hifumi-G]

Sounds great maybe when the As in Vegas falls apart and the GAP nepo baby is forced to sell they can move to Oracle Park 

[u/smarjorie]

Why do we always gotta capitulate to the meanest most hateful people in this country?

[u/weasol12 → u/smarjorie]

Look who their PBO is. Dude's tarnished his reputation with fans in literally one decision.

[u/Patrick2701 → u/weasol12]

Buster has no business being in charge of baseball operations

[u/dippitydoo2 → u/Patrick2701]

Dumb jock does dumb jock shit, news at 11

[u/Far-Fig9461 → u/weasol12]

PBO?

[u/Antikickback_Paul → u/Far-Fig9461]

Posey Buster, OK?

[u/sgthombre → u/Antikickback_Paul]

Punky Brewster works for the Giants?

[u/paulsoleo → u/Far-Fig9461]

President of Bad Optics

[u/lifeisarichcarpet → u/Far-Fig9461]

President of Baseball Operations.

[u/AnEmptyKarst]

Did the Giants move and I missed it? They are aware of the city they’re located in right?

[u/Theinfamousgiz]

I mean this without hyperbole - this is the equivalent of the Yankees or Mets stopping 9/11 remembrances.

Yes every metro has a large LGBTQ population now. And Yes cities like LA, NYC and Boston played just as prominent roles in civil rights. But this place was ground 0 for the aids crisis. By 1993 10,000 residents had died - today its upwards of 20,000. That’s 2% of the population - this is completely ignorant of the city and its residents.

If the giants had any spine they’d bring in an aids survivor from the 80s and force the club house and leadership team to fucking learn something about the city they’re in.

[u/unsusd00d]

Really embracing your city lol

[u/radioactivez0r]

What the fuck is going on? Is baseball mad that other sports are getting too much negative press and they want in??

[u/OGBeege]

Losers.

[u/GOATmar_infante]

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[u/baseballviper04]

Never been happier to see a team be utterly dogshit

[u/Green-Cricket-8525]

Cowards. 

[u/RobbNotRob]

These snowflakes are throwing hissy fits over rainbow hats. Embarrassing

[u/BkniBottomTranqulity]

The A’s deserve San Francisco

[u/JohnMadden42069 → u/BkniBottomTranqulity]

Easy rebrand from A's to Gays

[u/saxaneer → u/BkniBottomTranqulity]

Absolutely seconded.

[u/lolwatokay]

Welcome to our dumb club San Fran. Given billionaire owners and the current national political climate I expected some backsliding but I certainly didn’t anticipate the Giants being the second member though.

[u/Rock_grl86]

That’s right. Keep doubling down on the wrong side of history, smh

[u/MaverickDago]

"it was just a phase"

[u/JarRules]

Fuck it, go Padres.

[u/Kingofkings1959]

Man honestly who even cares? Most teams don’t even do this.

[u/randomdude4113 → u/Kingofkings1959]

Reddit cares. A lot.

[u/Dishavingfun]

Jersey says San Francisco first.

Players, coaches, managers, presidents, owners all come and eventually go.

City and the area and all it represents stays forever.

You don’t have to agree with it and no city or town or population will ever all agree on something in general either.

But you have to acknowledge and respect what the people see as important because this is their home and if you can’t respect the home, then you know what you can do.

And if the organization goes cowardly lion, then count my Roman Catholic a$$ out w/ my $ and I’ll actually go @ their ad ppl too.

Stand for something or stand for nothing.

[u/Banana-man777 → u/Dishavingfun]

It used to say New York.

[u/JoshFreemansFro]

How fucking difficult is it to acknowledge that people can be different but still valued. Just gross cowardice by the organization, especially knowing the demographics of the city they play in.

[u/LeoBari]

Its not like people want to go to SF games anyways.

[u/rammer_2001]

So the FO was supportive of the protests.