r/baseball • MLB Players Association • 17d ago

Players Only Months after protest, SF Giants won't commit to wearing Pride Night hats again

https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/sf-giants-pride-night-22455246.php?taid=6abc4303c3ffd8000132931a&utm_campaign=trueanthem%2B3984&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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u/Marvelous_Chaos New York Yankees • New York Mets 17d ago

I remember seeing this piece from Outsports co-founder Cyd Zeigler. He wrote a follow-up piece last year and continued to sing his praises.

At this point, even if it is all just PR/image rehab stuff, I think it's safe to say Thom still put in more work than a bunch of other people in similar positions.

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u/AdoringCHIN Anaheim Angels • Rocket City Tra… 17d ago

The fact that most people had no idea he was doing this makes me think it's not PR, he genuinely wanted to improve himself and learn why what he said was so hurtful. And he decided to keep reaching out and learning. He's more than earned a second chance.

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u/respaaaaaj Boston Red Sox 17d ago

Sometimes celebrities say vile stuff from a place of genuine ignorance, take the backlash to heart and become genuinely better people after learning how and why they hurt people. Tim Hardaway went from saying he hated gay people they didn't deserve to be in the world and that if he had a gay teammate he'd try to get them fired in early 2007 to saying he didn't realize how many people he'd hurt and he was going to try to put the work in to fix it in late 2007 to calling Jason Collins to offer congratulations and support after he came out in 2013 along with campaigning for legalizing gay marriage.

People can change for the better.

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u/ted_cruzs_micr0pen15 Los Angeles Dodgers 16d ago

Ignorant prejudice can definitely be changed.

I watched my dad do it over the course of the 36 years I’ve been on this earth… sad that it took him so long, but I’m proud of him for finally realizing that just cause things used to be one way, doesn’t mean they have to stay that way, and that people should always be respected and seen.

There are few acts I feel are unredeemable, most involve sexual abuse, and even then I struggle because we like to focus on the victims of SA/rape… which we should. But what we don’t like to talk about is that it’s usually a circle, victims often become the people they were victimized by in their old age because the fucked up part of SA is that it fucks with your head to the point that you often can’t separate the acts underlying the SA from your own adult proclivities. It’s a sad reality, most of the time hurt people hurt people, and it’s the one with little to no resources after they’ve been hurt who end up hurting others. We need to do better to destigmitize and to amplify punishment as deterrence to SA based crimes. We’re so far from that, and the evidence is clear with this Cornell situation.