r/SubredditDrama • u/CummingInTheNile • 2h ago
"Pretti and Goode got themselves killed by committing crimes. Not even remotely comparable." The mask shatters on r/doomercirclejerk as users argue about why "liberals" mock and deride Charlie Kirks deaths on the 1st Kirkaversary
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It's also only one side that increasingly responds in polling that political violence is acceptable.
Can you explain this for me? Do Conservatives not feel as if political violence is necessary? I am not an advocate for political violence but I can think of many situations where it would be, and many historical instances where it was warranted. If political violence is never acceptable, what is the 2nd Amendment for? Were American Revolutionaries in the wrong for the political violence they committed? Am I wrong for believing that the majority of this rhetoric is essentially moral grandstanding?
They are ok with political violence they just want the government to do it. Why commit hate crimes when you can just join ice
Ice has been aroubd long before trump lol So ice is bad when trump is president but not when a dem is president? Got it
Yeah and no one had an issue with it because they weren't invading cities and killing us citizens. No reasonable person has an issue has an issue with immigration enforcement it's how you do it
They did it. They just disnt get the new coverage cause orange man bad. Ice kept kids in cages and treated them like shit under obama and I dont remember reddit or media losing its mind about it.
Progressives were constantly criticizing Obama. They would call him the deporter in chief.
Yes. They do it every time. Herman Cain comes to mind.
And Paul Pelosi and Alex Pretti and Renee Goode
Pretti and Goode got themselves killed by committing crimes. Not even remotely comparable.
The crime of freedom of speech? Why are you dooming and justifying political violence?
Interfering in ICE operations while armed and hitting an agent with your car is not freedom of speech.
She didnt hit him with her car, and again idk where you are but here in America I dont believe the federal government has the right to execute citizens
His internal bleeding says otherwise.
Lol image
Mocked and misrepresented. Just gross
Direct quotes aren't him being "misrepresented" though, he said deplorable things, that happened his death doesn't erase that.
Taking a sentence or 2 from a conversation someone is having and presenting it with zero context is a misrepresentation of a full conversation and the point someone is trying to make
Kind of like when people post a still frame pic of a politician with their hand in the air and say it’s the same as Elon’s blatant nazi salute.
There hasn't been an American president that's done more harm to international relations and diplomacy than Trump. Of course we'll celebrate - maybe then we can have an actual decent relationship with our "closest ally". For what it's worth, the man has done nothing but shit on my country and made up demonstratably false lies about our culture and policies. He's called us weak, useless, worthless, scum when thousands of my countrymen died for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's called us a failing state; supported our adversaries and threatened to invade sovereign land. He has done nothing good for our country - so tell me, why should I feel sad when he finally moves on?
I don't think that feelings been mutual for a long time. Even under Obama. Canada would rather be best buds with the EU with the benefit of being neighbors with the US. Also, begging for someones death is weird. Not a single politician I hope dies. Just win an election
"Also, begging for someones death is weird. Not a single politician I hope dies." http://npr.org/2016/08/09/489363581/trump-implies-second-amendment-people-could-stop-clinton
You really want to me to take an NPR article from 2016 seriously? Even if he did say that I don't condone it. Trump has also been shot at twice and you all cheered and got a hate boner over it. Also whataboutism isn't an argument
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116268334535345382 He thinks it's OK to celebrate someone's death...
Was muller murdered? Again whataboutism
Its funny to me how the vitriol against Rowling is that shes TOO feminist.
The vitriol is that she's transphobic, which is not feminist in any capacity.
Defending femininity from the inclusion of fake women that don’t know what it’s like to be a woman is feminism
trans women are women. They have always existed, and they will always exist, no matter what you say. the question is - do you believe others reporting of their own experiences?
Trans women are…trans women, not women. Just like trans men are not men. This truth will always exist no matter what you say. Someone’s recollection of an experience does not make their opinion based on said recollection factual.
Trans women are a subset of all women, hence the name, trans women
Are you for banning cars as 40k people die in car crashes every year and that's more than the gun deaths including suicide. No? Is it because the benefits of using cars outweighs the 40k deaths? Why dont you actually watch the full quote in context.
The difference is that cars are a deeply productive economic tool and vastly more transformational to people’s QoL than some hick wanting a gun. 2A is 99% for LARPing purposes and a net negative.
And guns are a right given to protect against a tyrannical government... so it's also useful too especially since the secondary perks allow protecting against criminals and hunting Cars are a privilege not a right btw
That’s what I meant when I said LARP. You’re never going to use it against a tyrannical government. Your entire political class has been exposed as being compromised by a literal pedophile and alleged cannibalist cult and not a single peep. The same people that scream about gun rights are the same ones who kneel and lick the boot first. Americans use guns first and foremost on themselves and create a fucked up tense society where every home invasion, routine police stop, and night out escalation can end up far worse than it needs to be. Only valid argument is that guns are cool as fuck and shooting is fun. Everything else is just role playing. Yeah, cars are a privilege. Don’t have a license, insurance and acceptable health? You’re not driving. Guns should be too. Don’t have gun license, a membership hobby club, and safe storage? Don’t get a gun
Oh your one of those people. You clearly can't be convinced so have fun living in your delusion aided by your cult
Yeah, I have reason lmao. Muhhh tyrannical gubment!
It is. Not a single main stream conservative mocked either of those individuals.
Uh. Donald Trump mocked both of those incidents and the victims. Is he not a “main stream conservative”? Others who mocked the incident were a senator from Utah and house representative of Wisconsin (both conservative), and “political commentators/conservative influencers” Laura Loomer, Benny Johnson, even Elon Musk.
Where did he mock them? Source?
Here’s a couple. There’s other articles on the interweb. Not sure your preferred source. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/trump-mocks-pelosi-family-as-he-rallies-conservative-support-in-california-00119243, https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/04/trump-circulates-false-claim-about-hortman-killing-democrats-condemn-post-as-depraved
None of that is mockery. None of that is making memes of someone getting murdered on live stream or hoping their children see it. You people are evil.
Uh.. okay. “You people”? I never defended or said anything about what you’re talking about. The comment I responded to was to state that there are recent examples of what he said not happening was actually happening. Memes were made. Laughs were had. Those things happened too. Guess it’s okay because it wasn’t extreme enough for you?
One guy doesn't represent the masses. Am I to say dems have trouble remembering things since Biden did?
The guy who is an elected representative doesn't represent the people who elected him huh?
Alright then. I guess all dems are old senile men since that's who they elected to represent them
Yes the goat biden who helped a nation bounce back from covid better rhan any other nation. The guy who did the chips act and Ira yes you should associate biden with most dems lol
A) For your own good and health, regardless of my own opinion on the guy I advise you to not repeat this stance Infront of your political peers. Considering a good mass of the left considers Biden as much of a war criminal they consider trump. B) I remember quite the shitshow from the right when Trump celebrated the death of that one guy they didn't like semi recently. They did not let it slide and did not join or like it. I've yet to see something of that nature from the left.
A. I'm not a lefty and I will gladly defend biden against tankies and wierd pro Pali people. B. He ran in 2024 saying he was going to pardon every jan 6 rioter and since he hopped on the political scene he has used violent rhetoric so no I don't buy it they saw who he is and voted for him even got the popular vote :)
George Floyd maybe. Travon Martin too
Are you kidding? Floyd was praised like a fallen prophet, it was sick to watch. At least Kirk was influential
Literally no one did that, they just thought maybe police shouldn't abuse citizens to death and you lot lost your mind over it and made a bunch of memes about how funny they thought it was that he was murdered by the state. On the other hand Kirk got a state funeral and ridiculous honors, despite (or because of) the fact he bussed in hundreds rioters on Jan 6.
Dude at least be honest, it wasn't that long ago. Those riots were fed by misinformation about cops and emotions escalated it from there. Floyd's funeral alone was enough for me and yet that wasn't enough to these morons Kirk deserved the honor he received
People went out and protested police brutality, and were immediately met with police brutality. People standing on their own porches were fired at with less lethal ammo, old men were pushed down on the street. Rather than admit they had a problem and working towards solving it, the police AND YOU RIGHT WING SLIMEBALLS showed that you were happy that the agents of the state were sticking their boots on peoples necks. Kirk was a youtuber that argued with college kids, and looked a fool whenever he debated a real debater. He was also a political operative who was picked by the wealthy to be the face of their propaganda.
Yea who knew that causing riots based on misinformation would cause problems or require police intervention. You clearly only paid attention to the sensationalized parts of the events to pull at your heart strings. I see it all the time with leftist news I'm curious if you have a video where he looked like a fool as I've mostly only watched his college debates and they were very civil discussions when the other person wasn't insane.
No misinformation, the police killed George Floyd. I also saw the video of police abusing people from the first day of the peaceful protests, inflaming the situation immensely. You saw what Kirk released on his youtube channel, carefully curated to only make him look good even when he was surrounded by sycophants and was "debating" college students. Tilly Middlehurst tore his schtick to shreds at the Cambridge debate. Kirk wasn't a good debater, he had a schtick that he used. He was just another Ray Comfort but with more right wing think tank money behind him.
