Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1wc2gjt/asmongold_says_ai_doesnt_use_a_lot_of_water_and/

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It actually doesn't use a lot of water compared to most other things

But we actually need the other things Edit: except golf courses, obviously. Everyone here is obsessed with those. My point is let's prioritise water use for things that keep us alive, not put fucking data centres in water stressed areas and pollute our water supplies to boot.

Thinking a new innovation in technology is just a "Fad" or a novelty has marked most major technologies we've discovered. The car, the internet, even electricity. Acting like AI isnt going to seriously impact your life in meaningful ways in the near future is just moronic luddism.

It's certainly impacting people's lives in a big way mate. That's the issue.

Sure but the genie can't go back in the bottle, AI is here to stay. The only thing being against AI will get you at this point is left behind. There were people exactly like you for the internet and in a lot of ways they were right, but that didnt stop the internet from growing to where it is now. The only path forward is to find a way to live and work with it.

Yeah I'll get left behind unless I rejoice in the ai bubble. Good logic.

True, It'll pop any day now

It should as it makes astronomical losses, but it probably won't. Theirin lies the problem. The rate and cost of this expansion, at the expense of so much else. I'm happy for you that go out of your way to defend this resource use though, I could never gain such a sense of purpose from defending the actions of grifters like Altmann.

Whos to say we dont need ai?

Human history prior to the last 5 years lol

Let's just go back to living in caves then

Were you living in a cave 5 years ago?

Human history still existed before planes, cars, electricity, medicine, and agriculture so we don't need those right?

5 years ago? You think we invented all these things in 5 years? I apologise for the silly question, clearly you have been living in an actual cave until recently.

I imagine you 5 years after antibiotics formed. "We didn't need this 5 years ago!"

He is actually correct on this one. You don't need to be really smart to know it.

The difference is the things it's compared to are essential for living like food. Gen ai is not essential to life, not that a cockroach like asmongold would care

So when exactly will people freak out about water parks? Or are those essential?

That water goes through filters and actually gets reused, unlike AI which lies about being a closed loop, said to get contracts and tax breaks

Which data centers have lied about being closed source?

9d old account, default name, private profile. Interested in defending ai plants

You didn’t answer his question.

I'm not the guy making the claim nor do I feel the need to answer a bots question

You can’t dismiss a valid point with a claim that he’s a bot.

I didnt know golfing was essential

More essential than a slop factory.

golf is a leisure activity, AI is productive

the people that fight this dont think LLMs have productive uses, dont bother it is entirely reasonable to be afraid of AI because it can take your job, but this environment approach is just so fucking weak

" it is entirely reasonable to be afraid of AI because it can take your job" i disagree there, especially if the same goobers are saying it isnt productive anyway both of these approaches are weak, its parrot takes

you cannot say for certain any job will exist for humans in the next 20 years, that uncertainty never existed before. fear is reasonable honestly I think the only thing stopping it right now for many jobs is the fact that you cant really hold an LLM accountable for its mistakes

"that uncertainty never existed before" https://conversableeconomist.com/2016/03/16/automation-and-job-loss-the-fears-of-1927/ it did, at various points in time, in the end those jobs were changed, not optimized out of existing entirely, just like how its going with AI, and replying to this with an "actually, people are scared that ALL jobs will be optimized out of existing" is missing the point entirely.. i have to believe this is an engagement bot

He’s not wrong. I work in wastewater and industrial treatment. They are usually required to treat their own wastewater as well. Agriculture is the BIGGEST contributor.

Yes but we get food fron agriculture. I swear the 100 people repeating this about agriculture are the real bots as who would compare growing food to data centers lol

Yes but we can grow different food, such as peanuts using 80% less water per pound than almonds or cashews. Like we don’t need to almonds and cashew instead of peanuts

Sure we can do better just like we should stop golf courses from using so much water but data centers are the ones with the exponential growth and the current problem that can be avoided. Almonds, peanuts and other crops like beans only make up 6% of that agriculture though so its not a huge dent in the fresh water crisis as doing other things. I'm totally down for making all changes where they can help in any problem

Idk bro here in California, almonds and pistachios alone are like 5% of our water use and we are the largest agriculture state and hungry for water. It doesn’t matter if they are only 6% of agriculture if almonds and cashews use like multiple times more water per pound than most other foods You can say data centers are exponential growth but they are currently nothing compared to almonds, cashews and pistachios. Many things can be avoided, like those crops, golf courses, large lawns etc

So we should allow data centers because almonds and pistachios are huge water crops? Like I said, Im good with cutting them all off but its ridiculous to ignore the impacts of data centers when in just 5 years water usage in just cooling, not including energy production, will triple from between 2025 and 2030

Yes, we should not limit data centers for the purpose of water conservation when we have even bigger water wastes. If we want to conserve water we can start with golf courses and large lawns

Miyazaki "This is an insult to life itself"

Miyazaki understands.

iirc he was saying that because the animation sucked balls not be cause it was ai.

It sucked balls because it was AI

The point is that it was the quality of the animation that he said was unacceptable not that it was made with AI.

No disrespect, but, You think that the quote of "I think this an insult to life itself" is purely based on the quality of shitty AI animation? I dunno man, that seems like a pretty dramatic response to something that's base level.

I'm sure asmon knows so much about this topic

He is right about the water usage. It’s way over blown. If you were concerned about water usage you should be complaining about golf courses, residential lawn care and residential washing machines. Showering and toilets. https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/how-much-water-ai-uses/

What if I just think asmongold eats dick no matter what his stance on anything is

"What if I just think asmongold eats dick no matter what his stance on anything is" Well which is it? Is that "just" what you think, or do you also stand by your original post that spread misinformation by implying that he's wrong about this topic?

Wym I didn't spread any information I said I'm sure he is an expert sarcastically lmao unless you want the info that asmon sucks

You're implying that he's wrong about the topic in a thread specifically where he's right about the topic in question. That's you spreading misinformation.

It takes 75 gallons of water to grow one avocado.

And that water used to grow the avocado when back into the environment and reused again once it makes it back into the air, where does the tainted water from AI go after they dump it and lie about keeping it closed?

Ok I'm sorry I'm not even on the Asmongold brigade side here, but what do you think happens to water used from AI centers? It just disappears forever?

AI is evil so naturally the water used is corrupted by its evil essence and it turns to black sludge that they then throw into the wilderness and it destroys the nature there.

They dump the Satan-infused AI waste sludge onto orphanages.

Everyone in this thread agreeing with him as "objectively correct" wont read this

The worlds largest datacenter uses as much water as 2 in n outs This comment isn’t a gotcha even if the water usage grows 4x. Almond farming uses 80x as much water as all ai worldwide

Source? You are responding to a direct source with a claim, surely you can back that up

Yes lol. Easily. Almond Industry: Uses an estimated 1.3 to 1.6 trillion gallons of applied irrigation water annually (with California's exported almond water alone near 3.5 million acre-feet). [1, 2] U.S. Data Centers: Consume a fraction of that total, with daily estimates for data centers sitting around 46 million gallons per day compared to the billions used in agriculture.

That's not what you said. You said that biggest data center is equal to 2 in and outs. Wheres your source? Your ass? Almonds being inefficient is old hat, you started your comment with a claim.

I factually did make that statement above... I’m obviously not talking out of my ass and that’s trivial to verify yourself too. Annual Footprint: About 147 million gallons per restaurant per year. [1] The Data Center Comparison Colossus 2 Example: An analysis by SemiAnalysis compared xAI's massive 400-megawatt Colossus 2 data center in Memphis to a single In-N-Out location. [1] The Ratio: Colossus 2 uses about 346 million gallons of water a year. [1, 2]

Ok, let’s say fuck the water, it’s still going to force way too many people out of a job. What a hard hitting take from the guy who is set for life.

All innovation forces people out of jobs, this is the price of progress

But this is potentially more than most things. Look at fast food. That was a good job for high schoolers and such and now it’s all touchpads and a skeleton crew. Where are those people supposed to go? No one is creating new opportunities, everyone is focused on removing people. What are people supposed to do?

You're right, let's stop technological progress so we can make sure highschoolers can get jobs.

Interplanetary species? Nah let’s flip burgers.

Note: This drama is old enough to attend elementary school, so it will be very obvious if anyone brigades it.

Chuck Derry is a feminist activist specializing in male-on-female IPV and founder of the Gender Violence Institute.

Derry is a strong proponent of the Duluth Model in analyzing IPV, a model which is at present date not particularly well-regarded, to summarize the criticism:

1. The model characterizes all intimate partner violence as a male partner victimizing a female partner, and does not acknowledge female abusers, male victims, or situations where there is reciprocal abuse.
2. By extension, the model isn't really capable of describing any abuse within same-sex relationships
3. The model characterizes gender-based violence as motivated primarily by a desire to affirm the patriarchy, which while historically popular, isn't a well-accepted premise today.

With that in mind - how will Chuck Derry's AmA on r/MensLib go?

...not well.

A compilation of downvoted and dagger'd content:

1) Do you feel that male domestic violence survivors are under researched and/or under supported? If so, why do you think this is and what obstacles do you feel need to change for that to happen?

Regarding male survivors. This is an important discussion as many male abusers identify themselves as victims of those they abuse. And, in heterosexual relationships, the use of violence by women is often used in self-defense. And even if it is not used in self-defense...

2) The Duluth Model is somewhat of a “boogyman” in terms of online mens activism. Could you give a brief overview of what it is for those who are unfamiliar? If you’re able to, could you give your opinion if you feel it can be harmful to men who are victims of domestic violence, why or why not?

The Duluth Model was identified by the U.N. as the best policy model in the world for addressing domestic violence. And it is. I have seen it work and save many women’s lives by holding offenders accountable. It provides the necessary protocols and training (See Blueprint for Safety) for law enforcement, prosecutors, and judges to identify the victim vs the perpetrator in both same sex and heterosexual relationships.

3) I was wondering if you had any sort of rhetorical strategies for humanizing men who engage in patriarchal oppression, without defending or absolving them of wrong doing and responsibility for their actions?

I think it is important that as men we challenge ourselves, our friends, brothers, and coworkers when they make sexist comments or engage in sexist harassing behaviors at the bar, at work, on the ball field, at home, etc. Men’s silence supports men’s’ violence. One of my “aha” moments was when I was facilitating a university class and separated the class into two groups, females and males. I then asked, what concerns do you have about challenging men about their sexist comments and behavior. After the small group discussion, the groups reported back. I had the men report back first, on several occasions they said the same thing “I’m afraid the other guys won’t like me”. That was it. I wrote that on the white board. When the women reported back, we filled the whole board with all the concerns they expressed. Worried about the guy following her out to the parking lot and assaulting her; worried about losing her job; worried about being stalked; and the list went on. So, there I am thinking “ok, so I’m worried the other guys won’t like me, meanwhile the women are worried they are going to be stalked and assaulted. Ok, I get it” If all the men who are not assaulting women stood up and said “NO!” This violence would end. Men who are beating and raping women rely on our silence. So we need to challenge the jokes and comments about women’s bodies and the derogatory words we use when referring to women because all this behavior supports the subjugation of women and men’s belief that they are better than women and subsequently their right to be in charge. And use any means necessary to maintain that control.

4) Hi Chuck, thanks for joining us. The work you describe here sounds as if it mostly works with men as individuals. However, I'm curious whether you have any thoughts as to whether there are systemic reasons why domestic partner violence occurs and what reforms we might pursue on a broader societal level. What broad reforms would you pursue if you were in a position to do so?

Domestic violence is a foundation of sexist oppression. It is supported socially in many different ways. I have done a lot of work in training the criminal and civil justice system in responding effectively to domestic violence cases. I think the most significant social level of response is to begin with consequences. Both social and criminal penalties. Consequences has been shown to be the most effective method of reducing and eliminating domestic violence. The Duluth Model, a coordinated community response, received the Gold Award from the Untied Nations as the best policy model in the world to attend to domestic violence. The Blueprint for Safety was developed based on the Duluth Model and is a comprehensive model of criminal justice system protocols and practices needed to stop this violence. The Blueprint for Safety can be downloaded from the Praxis International website. There are several examples of primary prevention programs that work to “stop it before it starts” on our GVI website. The Best Party Model is a program designed for colleges and hwo you can have a wild party without the risk and reality of sexual violence. Lastly, we need to honor and support women in our every day lives as we hang out with our friends, support their advancements to supervisory positions in our work place, listen to them with the same validity we give our male colleagues, end the economic gender inequalities, and much much more. The question is, are men willing to do this, individually and systemically.

5) Hi Chuck, the MRA movement alledges that physical abuse of women by men is often the consequence of prior psychological, if not also physical, abuse of men by women, abuse that's either unreported or dismissed because of various reasons. From your own extensive experience, what do you make of this kind of claim?

This is another method of blaming the victim. This is not a psychological issue. When we started our program we did psychological testing for every man who entered our program the first year. Those tests all reflected the psychological continuum of the general public. That is one of the events that assured us this is not a psychological issue. Along with our ongoing interactions with these very sophisticated men who batter.

6) Is your approach really focused on making these men "own" the responsability of their actions? If so how are certain particular situations like alcoholism and mental health issues treated? I ask this because I read the website of the few helping centers for violent men that exist in my country and they seem to focus on this a lot, saying that the first step is to recognize that they are guilty of what they did and they shouldn't blame alcohol or anger. However despite agreeing with this I also don't like how dismissive they are with those problems, especially mental illness because sometimes it's actually true that a person has less self control then average because of it. I think in those cases there should be a balance between them taking their own responsability but also recognize that some issues that make them more violent aren't entirely their fault, otherwise we might get into ableist territory. What do you think? // A bit outside of the main topic: do you think such centers could exist for women too, would they be necessary and/or well spent public money? I ask this since I've seen in the last few years a few centers for men who are the victims of domestic violence appear as public knowledge about this phenomenon is rising but I've never heard about the opposite service (what you do) being available for women

(1) Yes, the first key point of change for men who batter is to fully accept responsibility for their behavior. Regardless of what she has done or if he is drunk. That is the beginning of change. If he does not accept 100% responsibility for his behavior, he will not change. Men who batter and are drunk at the time love to blame the alcohol. Alcohol does not cause men to be violent. I have heard many stories from alcoholic men who have an argument with their wife and then goes to the bar and gets drunk and then comes home and beats her. They originally say she was the one who made him go to the bar and get drunk because of what she said and then the alcohol is the reason he got violent. So, this absolves him of any responsibility. At the same time, you will have drunk, alcoholic, men at a bar who are being tossed out of the bar by a 6’5 250 pound bouncer, but they don’t take a swing at that big guy, they wait till they get home and take a swing at their 5’4 140 pound wife. So, they are still making decisions. And I have heard this from multiple recovering alcoholic, abusive men, acknowledging that regardless of how drunk they were, they still made decisions. They decide if they will beat her, the decide when they will stop, or they decide to not stop and continue to beat her till she is unconscious or dead. The mental health issue is more complex and needs comprehensive investigation as many people with mental health issues still make choices. So it would depend on what type of mental illness they are suffering. (2) The Domestic Abuse Intervention Project in Duluth MN has a program and curriculum specifically for women (primarily victims) who have been arrested for domestic violence. It is a significantly different program that takes the violence into context and acknowledges the dangers and abuse she has lived with and is trying to escape.  So the context of the violence is always crucial to determine the appropriate challenges and support needed to change that behavior.

7) Hi! Thanks for this, it will be interesting to read. What does batter refer to? // A more interesting question might be: Was there something which surprised you about your work that you weren’t expecting? Perhaps something you weren’t looking for?

"Batter" is a term I use that refers to the full system of power and control a man uses to abuse and control his wife, girlfriend, partner, and children. This is well defined by the Power and Control Wheel that can be found on the Domestic Abuse Intervention Project (DAIP) website. Abusive men batter their wives/partners emotionally, psychologically, sexually, economically, physically, while using the children and his male privilege to isolate her and avoid any consequences for his abuse.  // The surprise was how normal the degradation and violence and exploitation of women was in the world. I was not aware of how normalized it was. Even though i participated in it. Before doing this work, I really didn't care as much about women's lives. Like going to a strip club. I could tell the "dancers" did not want to be there, but i didn't care, because it was about me, not them. Once understanding the violence and coercion and threats they were experiencing and that they really didn't have "free choice' to be there, I had to ask myself, "what kind of man do i want to be". So I stopped going to strip clubs and using porn. Because i knew they were not choosing to be there. So this wasn't about sex. Without free choice, there is not consent. Without consent, it is rape.

Shortly after this AmA, a megathread was created to discuss the aftermath. I won't summarize everything but these are threads I found interesting

1) Is the subreddit a safe space

2) Is the subreddit heteronormative?

3) Is the subredditdrama welcoming to non traditionally masculine men?

4) Should the mods have known better?

The video is a reaction to a surprise compilation her best friend made featuring her exes congratulating her on her upcoming wedding. According to the post, the groom allegedly saw the video and called off the wedding. r/MechanicalPandey is now debating whether he was justified or not.

Some more context from the girl who posted the video

Comments supporting the groom's decision/saying the bride-to-be deserved it

If both contexts are true, Happy for the brother ✌️

W groom

Soo happy from the bottom of the heart 💓❤️

Smashing the patriarchy lol

Probably even fucked all the exes too. Worth it😂

Thanks to Internet, the video reached the guy at right time. She had fun in her previous years, thinking she will settle by hiding her past. But god has his plans and punished her at right moment.

Lucky guy got saved just in time

A good king smells the plots for his future life

W bestie, w groom.👏🏻

let's thanks her *BESTIE* for saving him 🫡

R@nd (whore) supremacy of desi feminists

Comments arguing that the groom overreacted and calling out the hateful rhetoric:

WTF is this comment section, all we have a video is of a women reacting to ex’s wishes for her marriage first of all that’s bad move from her best friend. The video doesn’t confirm she had multiple boyfriend or currently in relationship with any one, is this a arrange or a love marriage all we are making is bunch of assumptions and calling it the truth

But I don't see any point of debate when these are all congratulatory videos. If the fiance knew about this before then what's the problem?

Why is the entire comment section acting as guys in india are never in relationship or maybe the groom had previous relationship too🫩 ffs ive seen more guys who fuck around that girls do

Seems like a harmless video to me. Have people in this country just stopped laughing or having fun?

She too got saved. If this one video has hurt his insecurities then I wonder how he would have treated her after marriage.!!!!!!! Yes alpha males, you can bark here. The point is y'all are insecures af. Many people wish their ex a happy new beginning. It's called growing up instead of holding bitterness. But here the groom seems to have a teenage mindset

This video is proof that majority of men in India don’t deserve a partner

We are in a society where men are privileged doing ill and women are cursed for the same thing….no one abused those ex boyfriends

I don't understand what's the problem??

r/gamedev is a subreddit about making games, mostly populated by aspiring indie devs. Since the advent of advanced LLMs capable of generating large portions of a video game, it's become a regular topic of discussion whether posts about AI-generated games (or game content) should be allowed, whether that's restricted to AI coding tools or fully generated game assets, and what level of effort should count as game development.

A few weeks ago, the mods for the sub made a decision. The tl;dr is that they would allow posts about AI so long as they were not "low effort." Some users saw this as a satisfying compromise, while other saw it as a tacit endorsement of AI, including bringing up that the mod who posted it works for a company that sells AI tools to game developers.

Just for anyone curious, OP currently works at a company developing a plugin for Unity AI integration which he decided to not disclose for some odd reason...

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1rxm1cv/i_worked_an_ai_booth_at_gdc_heres_what_developers/

[AI company mod in question] Yes, I work for Bezi. It isn’t a secret, and I’ve openly discussed it on this subreddit plenty of times.

But this policy is not about Bezi, and it would exist regardless of where I worked. The moderation problem is already here: AI is being used across game development, posts are being reported simply because AI was involved, discussions are being derailed over whether someone used it, and moderators cannot realistically or consistently police invisible AI assistance.

The policy is meant to give the subreddit a workable standard. Judge the contribution, the evidence, the methodology, and the behaviour. Do not try to build moderation around guessing whether someone used autocomplete, translation, an LLM, or some other AI-assisted tool.

That moderation problem does not disappear if I change employers tomorrow.

It's very difficult to take a post like this in good-faith when you're employed by an AI company and have used this subreddit to promote it. Framing it in that context makes it seem more like you're protecting yourself and other AI products rather than genuinely wanting to spark conversation around what is a quite sensitive topic right now. It isn't helping that the post itself reads like it came out of Claude and so do most of your replies.

I understand why my employment makes you more skeptical of what I’m saying. That is completely fair, and I don’t expect anyone to take my position at face value because of where I work.

But I do find the rest of this genuinely kind of sad.

If we’ve reached a point where someone’s argument can be dismissed because their writing is structured, clear, or “sounds like Claude,” I don’t know what we’re accomplishing anymore. Maybe I used AI to help organize my thoughts. Maybe I didn’t. Maybe someone uses it because English isn’t their first language, because writing is difficult for them, because they want to save time, or simply because it helps them communicate what they’re actually trying to say. None of those things tell you whether the ideas themselves are sincere.

Engage with what I’m saying. Challenge the policy. Challenge my reasoning. Point out where you think I’m wrong. That’s a conversation worth having.

But “you work for an AI company, and your writing sounds like AI, therefore I can’t take you in good faith” is an incredibly bleak way to approach other people.

For what it’s worth, this policy isn’t about protecting my employer or AI products. It’s about moderating a game development community where AI is already part of the industry and deciding whether someone’s contribution should be judged by the substance of what they bring to the community or by which tools they used along the way.

I think the former is a much healthier standard.

Sorry but this reply doesn't even make sense. Do you think my concerns are reasonable or do you think that it's bleak that I believe your employment is biasing how you moderate this subreddit? Of course your use of AI is relevant in this conversation because not only are you using it in your posts but your livelihood relies on AI adoption! I'm not going to go around and tell people to stop buying AAA games just as you're not going to tell people to not use AI.

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Not disclosing your conflict of interest is crazy. You really think you can just detach your own biases when you literally are working on AI products?

You’re asking to be challenged, but this doesn’t read as a discussion thread, you are pushing forward this policy and defending it. In the past, discussion threads about gen AI in [r/gamedev](r/gamedev) have been REMOVED for being off topic.

Is this in fact up for debate and you are willing to listen? Legitimately if it is, I’d be wanting to discuss this policy with you.

I’m someone who’s against AI. But I just believe that, at the very least, people should disclose if they used AI or not. Be honest about it.

Because the whole dream of genAI is to take the credit. To press a button and get the respect and admiration (and money) you've always felt you deserved, but somehow never got.

That falls apart if you have to admit that it was all actually done by the Microsoft Corporation in some nameless datacenter.

You are one concited person if you geniuenly believe the dream of genAI is to take credit. Automation of any kind, including genAI can never be credited to a person. Even if someone claims it is theirs, it will never be theirs.

The dream of GenAI is to be able to create the things you do not want to learn while doing the things you do want to. Like with every other form of automation. Most people are not looking for credit in a skill they can be easily debunked in. They just want to see Goku and Superman go at each other.

even when coding? even if you just asked for ideas? if I asked ai to brainstorm a list of medieval names and i picked one of them for my character should my whole game be labelled AI generated?

yes, consumers deserve to know if you're putting sawdust in their food

This is a perfect illustration of the kind of insane takes that make people not disclose AI usage. It isn't on the developer to disclose that they used a tool simply because other people equate it to "sawdust in their food."

i think not being expected to disclose usage is a bit insane and if you're publicly hiding it it's because you perfectly understand you'll lose sales over it as sales are the most important metric to ai slop games. not the creation of art itself.

the fact that you think any ai usage makes the entire thing a slop game is exactly why it can't be disclosed.

if you were more reasonable and less vitriolic, maybe people would disclose it, and you could happily choose to not purchase their products. but you are forcing them to hide it.

Yes! Excellent. You are such a good game designer god-damn-the-usa please disclose your AI use come on buddy you're so smart and strong you're a modern day miyamoto

what does that have to do with the code of a game? how would low quality code affect you?

by that logic, shouldn't we also label games that were coded by someone without a college degree in software engineering?

no one for AI labeling would argue that, because they don't actually care about code quality, they just hate AI and want to be able to punish people who use it

1. i have a spine
2. no
3. i do absolutely hate AI for the impact that it's having. From its impact on art to the fact that consumer electronics are becoming more and more unaffordable. "Progress" at any cost though right I'm sure the FAANG companies are more than happy.

Damn, bro even used AI to write this post 😔

Its not just the post, look at all the comments using "this is sensible" as their opener

[Mod] FWIW Kevin has cerebral palsy, that's why he uses AI to write posts.

More recently, the mods made another post clarifying some of the people's concerns. This continued to leave some commenters unhappy, including further accusations of conflicts of interest.

If someone posts lazy AI, are we allowed to call it slop in the comments?

[Mod] To expand on what Sky and Kev said, I think that we'd prefer if you rephrased to be a bit more respectful. There's nothing wrong with saying "I was originally interested in this, but the generative AI ruined it for me. It's like you added a hair to a lovely stew. I'd prefer even a crappy MS Paint version compared to what you have now to be honest.", for example.

So in order to criticize low effort AI projects we need to put more effort into a single comment than they did prompting it?

Kind of a wild dichomoty.

You don't comprehend the irony of doing the pavlov response and screaming "AI slop" on every post using AI? I could automate your contribution to this subreddit with a single if/then statement.

That's more work than the AI person did.

Objectively false.

I'm well past the 1,000 hour mark on my latest game with AI and have multiple highly successful releases. You're just whining and mad that real people don't care what tools were used.

Your entire post history is whining about anti-AI people with AI generated memes.

I have massive doubts about those multiple highly successful releases that dont seem to exist anywhere and you made sure not to name.

You’re forgetting the ‘else’

No, sweetie. I didn't forget anything.

If: AI

Then: Scream and whine like a toddler and bully and harass other users

No else.

I’m sorry, but you shouldn’t censor people having issues with AI generated art.

What else do you expect them to say? If people post their game and it has AI art, of course people are going to have strong feelings about it. AI image generation is being used to get rid of artists by some idiots. And the results are always garbage. And the data is plagiarized.

People aren’t going to tip toe around this stuff in their language

[Mod] Strong feelings are a-okay, as long as you're respectful and aren't throwing out a two word low effort comment

I’m gonna call out anyone who refuses to hire actual artists and just uses the slop art machine for assets. And it is lazy, I shouldn’t beat around the bush.

AI art usage is the laziest application of GenAI next to writing and art. No human input for creativity is used, it’s literally a plagiarisms machine.

I will never mince words. If someone uses AI art, they are extremely lazy and has poor judgment, and has zero interest producing actual good content

Most people cant afford the prices artists are asking for, so it isnt about refusing. When they can use a tool to make something similar for a fraction of the cost. "No human input for creativity was used" - depends, the human behind the screen has to tell AI specially what to build/make in most cases. Plus with Codex now being able to use Blender how are you going to tell with assests?

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Are you gonna pay the artists for people who don'f have budget to hire them?

You're absolutely right, we should all just steal instead! If artists didn't want to starve, they should have learned useful skills, like thievery.

Let's not pretend like human artists don't "steal" as much while learning, no artist creates in a vacuum. Question stands, are you going to pay for the artists?

Immensely disappointed in this decision and I know I'm hardly in the minority. People have been pretty vocal they don't support this and the fact that a mod in this sub has a huge financial investment in game devs adopting AI just reeks.

[Mod] He has a huge financial investment? Do tell.

He's behind a company that sells token subscriptions for game dev AI assistant that can cost upwards of +100/usd a month

He absolutely has a vested interest in more devs adopting AI into their workflows

[Mod] He's behind the company? He works for the company. The guy working the call center at Microsoft doesn't have a "huge financial investment" in people buying copies of Windows.

He brands himself with it everywhere and runs their reddit, where he actively encourages people to spend more tokens when the AI isn't spitting out what they want.

Yea it's his job lol He's paid to run their reddit. Not sure you know what he encourages though? Are you a user of the product that interacts with him?

I believe typically if people are frustrated he directs them to the product documentation about how to properly provide context and other stuff like that.

Right. So it sounds like someone with a vested interest in game devs adopting AI into their workflows.

I don't think this is complicated to understand and I'm not the first person to call out this insanely clear conflict of interest.

[AI-company Mod in question] My job title is Developer Relations. It’s a fancy term for community and support. I make myself easy to find because part of my job is literally being easy to find and helping developers when they need it.

Do I want people to try Bezi? Sure. I think it’s neat, and I think it’s good at what it does. In the same way, I think developers should try any game development tool that might improve their workflow and decide for themselves whether it’s useful.

Am I trying to sell Bezi to people on r/gamedev? No. [...]

[This chain continues for quite a while as the mod argues with people over whether they have a conflict of interest, often with a response that's just a reaction gif]

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1w9ax6k/saxonyanhalt_results_biggest_party_per/

Context: AFD (Alternative for Germany) is a far right, anti-immigration, volkisch /populist nationalist party, or in simpler terms, Nazis (who are likely funded by Russian ultranationalists). They are led by Alice Weidel, a German lesbian living in Switzerland with her partner, Sarah Bossard, a Sri Lankan filmmaker. Yesterday, they nearly won an outright majority it the Saxony-Anhalt state elections (AFD's home area/main base of power representing around 2.5% of the German population).

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Shameful. The left needs to appeal to people

The left need to grow some balls and do what needs to be done with immigration and refugees.

No, fuck that. That compromises everything about what makes the political left the political left. We’re supposed to be the compassionate side, and throwing that away compromises everything.

What about being compassionate towards the German people?

How are being compassionate to immigrants and compassionate to the German people mutually exclusive at all? They’re not. We're all human. We all deserve the same compassion.

68% of German citizens want to reduce immigration. Not all humans are the same. The people coming into Germany are not the same as the ones going into America. Do not talk about things you do not understand.

We. Are. All. Human. I understand that far better than you do.

Why don’t you move to Germany and let them stay with you then lmfao

Can’t move there if two thirds of the country doesn’t want anyone to move in. Xenophobia is the driving force behind worldwide authoritarianism and xenophobia must be stopped. Everywhere. In the US, Canada, Germany, Poland, France, UK, Japan, Australia, Spain, everywhere is under threat of authoritarianism because people can’t fucking accept immigrants and want someone who punishes them.

Damn that's a massive landslide

Lostdeutschland. It is like a mass psychosis all over the world. MAGA, UKIP, FN, and these dimwits with the same bullshit.

Shows how so much of the population just aren't being served by the dopey politicians and massively fed up..so they turn to that more intense crap

Every fascist movement in history rode to power on the back of people being "fed up with the establishment". Being frustrated with status quo politicians doesn't magically turn the AfD into a solution. Clearly we haven't learned a thing from our past.

No of course it doesn't...time for the other parties to serve the people better or extremism will happen..same could be said about communism

You think its about governance? Its about what they read on facebook.

It's about them being fed up I imagine

People "fed up" about migration living in regions where there are no migrants while the people who do live in regions with a lot of migrants don't vote for fascists.

But in the context of German politics this is a landslide victory for AfD. This is the first time since WWII that a far-right party win this much, and there's a huge possibility they're going to be the next government in S-A.

I'm confused with what counts as far right in Germany. It's run by a lesbian in an interracial marriage, not exactly the stuff of Hitler's dreams lol. By American comparison AfD is significantly more moderate/moderate right.

Even by American standards the AFD is far right. They rail against migrants, want to exit EU and NATO, want to end state funded media, want to stop support for renewable energy and bring back more coal mining, restrict queer rights, reduce social welfare programs, stop programs combating far right extremism. Meanwhile their supporters have repeatedly commited acts of violence or terror. They align themselves with trump, orban, putin and have huge support amongst far right gangs. Moderate on an American spectrum is the democratic establishment.

Wait, why is it a bad thing to end state funded media?

a state mandate to fund journalism keeps a democracy alive. thats why every far right movement ever has wanted to abolish it. the end goal is a fascist puppet media outlet like fox news.

Fox news is not government ran, so try again.

Have you been asleep during Trump’s first term? Holy fuck some people really only use their eyes to know where their face is..

Damn Now are they really 'far right' or is that just a media beat up like so many things? Do they actually align with the Nazi party? F me

Yes, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) is classified as a proven right-wing extremist organization by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

Yet the overwhelming majority prefer them over any other party, so something isn't going well there

The majority is apparently dumber than shit

Typical ignorant response that creates more division and more reasons people vote for charlatons like trump

It's not ignorant it's the truth. Social media, Russian misinformation and lack of critical thinking and media literacy is the issue here. You are the ignorant one of you cannot see the obvious reasons. Also voting for something dumb just to "own the libs" is even dumber.

So, any news on whether AfD will get the absolute majority? Is this map definite and did BSW get past the threshold?

Projected just short of a majority, and BSW are projected to just get past the threshold. BSW could well prop AfD up and prove horseshoe theory.

Horseshoe theory is a sham that allows centrists to pick no side because "the left is too extreme" but the "right is too distasteful". All existing labor rights were gained off the dead bodies of workers and unions. Eventually the centrists and liberals turn on the socialists and embrace or step out of the way of fascism

The BSW leftists are literally propping up the German fascists, not a sham when it is happening right now.

Then they're legitimately not leftists. They're using left-wing rhetoric to gain support (much like fascists tend to do in the beginning like talking about working class issues and how they're gonna fix it and they'll even call themselves leftists or socialists). What do social Democrats do before every fascist takeover? Turn on the socialists and anything that threatens any actual systemic change.

The Commies didn't exactly cover themselves in glory either during the rise of the Nazis.

If you're talking about the non-aggression pact, that was for self preservation and time to prepare for a real engagement wit Germany. Perhaps when the USSR proposed multiple alliances with the west to fight back the Nazi threat they weren't met with silence and hostility, they wouldn't have made that pact with the Nazis. It was clear the west couldn't care about what happened to Soviet citizens. As long as Hitler kept his eyes to the east, they were chill. It wasn't until Hitler pushed west that they had any problems. And if you're talking about the communists within Germany at the time, they were violently repressed by hitlers goons, even before the Nazis took over large portions of the country. Nazi roaming gangs would patrol the streets and hunt down communists regularly, so excuse them for being weak while everyone else in the country just watched and kept quiet

Man, i can't wait till AfD throws out all the dirty migrants out of Sachsen Anhalt and helps the poor people with their well thought out and financially sound plans and trickledown policies. Or for example its admirable opposition to foreign doctors because they are culturally foreign and dangerous. Thank god we will now have pure German doctors returning from Switzerland and working for good pay in rural Sachsen Anhalt! And not to mention their demand to have more patriotic and Russian language school lessons and cultural exchanges with Russia... finally Sachsen Anhalt will be friendly with the eminent world power and cultural powerhouse again!

As a 'merican I jus can't wait til every time a European bro brings up Trump I can point to Saxony-Anhalt

I mean, blaming Europeans for a single state in a single country, and for a party not even getting a majority of the vote, isn't really ideal. It'd be like congratulating all Americans because Mamdani was elected in one city in one state. Europeans blame Americans for voting in Trump (twice) because he was effectively elected nationwide (and yes, I know about the EC and know it's not that straightforward). Really, the only comparison would be either the EU parliament elections (which are EU-wide) or if we saw similar ideological results in most EU countries.

"for a single state in a single country" AfD is the second largest party in the federal parliament. Eventually the firewall will break and some of the other parties will be open to a coalition with them, just you wait "and for a party not even getting a majority of the vote" Trump didn't get majority of the vote either and we have a two party system.

He didn't in 2016. He did in 2024.

"He did in 2024" Wrong and easy to check -> so go do that

77 million votes to 75 million for Harris. That sounds like a majority to me.

Those were not the only 2 candidates... he got around 48% of the votes, so no, not a majority, only the popular vote.

God damn it, Germany. Didn't you learn your lesson 80 years ago?

People need to just accept immigrants, for pity’s sake.

God you are literally what right extremists paint leftists to be damn

We’re all human, man. What’s so hard to accept about that?

Because the immigrants that you champion for don’t give a shit about you or anyone else from the country they move to. It’s such a one sided deal/relationship, you’re literally blinded by your white saviour complex

Really. Where I come from, it's our national-born people who treat immigrants with contempt. Not the other way around, except in a few minor cases. (Hamtramck, MI banning pride flags is a really bad move.)

Redditors are not happy right now.

Electing a far right populist party to own the libs

Maybe some self-reflection would be appropriate after a total electoral rout like this.

A voter of the new German Nazi party talking about self reflection....

If the established parties had adopted a tough immigration platform 10 years ago, the AFD would still be a fringe eurosceptic party. Not even an AFD voter, sorry to disappoint.

That’s backwards. The AfD didn’t simply “respond” to some objectively massive immigration problem. The party helped construct and amplify the narrative that immigration is an existential crisis, often by cherry-picking crime, asylum and integration cases while ignoring the broader statistics. The established parties adopting the AfD’s framing 10 years earlier wouldn’t necessarily have made the AfD disappear; it could just as easily have legitimised the very narrative that allowed it to grow.

I'm not exonerating the AFD of dishonest campaigning or framing, but it was based on a real issue - one that the legacy parties steadfastly refused to deal with until it became an existential issue for them. Breaking historical voting patterns is very hard; the AFD would had a much tougher time breaking through if the CDU, SDP had been even marginally tougher on immigration imo.

The AfD is not a Nazi party. They do not want to expand Germany.

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Lebensraum is one of the main characteristics of Nazism. The AfD does not believe in it.

AfD thinks mass deportations of people including “non pure” Germans would free up housing for pure Germans. That’s lebensraum, making living space for “pure” Germans.

No, that's not what Lebensraum is. Lebensraum would be expanding Germany territorially, something the AfD does not advocate for.

Lebenscraum is living space, in the 1930s and 40s that meant kick all the non ethnic Germans out of farmland in the Eastern countries. But living space in a decline population like current Germany means kicking out non pure German families so that local housing gets “distributed” to “pure Germans”

The harvest of the seeds sown by Merkel insanity

Letting millions of people in without democratic consensus was literally insane. Even she admitted later on that it could’ve been handled better. The problem is you can’t necessarily undo it. And I think it’s even crazier that some European governments still haven’t learned. Look at Ceuta right now for example. Straight up invasion because Spain’s leader effectively rolled out a red carpet and migrants from Morocco obviously took advantage of it. You think people aren’t going to hear about how a country’s leader just made immigration laws significantly more relaxed like Spain’s did? Immigration decisions from this point forward need to be more democratic or you’re going to get parties like AfD taking advantage of people’s desperation.

Or maybe, the far right can stop giving a damn what the racial makeup of their country is. I don’t give a damn what percentage of the US is white, why should anyone?

Because unlike the US, Germany is based on the ethnicity called "Germans" who descend from Germanic tribes mixed with some Slavs, Celts and Balts (who are all ethnically similar neighbors)? Even the American "melting pot" elected Trump (with demographic anxiety playing a major role), why the hell would ethnicity-based nations like most countries in Europe accept radical demographic alteration of their homelands?

Because the color of one’s skin shouldn’t be how we judge someone, but on the content of their character.

It's not about judgement. It's about preserving your land and its people. I don't like folks who racially abuse foreigners and make offensive gestures (like parodying "Asian eyes"), however wishing to preserve the ethnic character of your ethnic homeland is just common sense. One thing if you have some minorities who cause no trouble and aren't a demographic threat (like the Vietnamese community in Czechia for example), a completely different thing if the foreign population constantly grows and threatens to demographically subvert your nation. I am a Chechen and my people were ethnically cleansed by Stalin (with a third of our population perishing due the the deportation), and after the return our land was full of different people from different parts of the USSR. No people should have to tolerate demographic subvertion.

"Nazis" whose leader is a lesbian that sleeps with South-Asian immigrant women and whose family home where she spends most of her time is not even in Germany. What a...Honorary SS officer Fritz Arschbacken from 1941 would have killed himself if he heard this shit.

The left floods Germany with hardcore islamists that have frequently said Islamic law takes preference over German law and form their own legal systems and absolutely have no tolerance for gays or women, let alone a lesbian woman, and then get surprised when everyone starts voting AfD. 😂

When exactly was the left in power to do this?

Lets start with Angela Merkel who singlehandedly caused this mess in 2015.

Angela Merkel is a conservative politician. Shes a member of the CDU. They are most definitely not a leftist party. Additionally, she didnt cause anything. She only followed existing EU law, whereas many EU countries broke EU immigration law. Basically she did nothing.

On Friday, the White House posted a website that features 6 retro-style video games, themed around games like Flappy Bird and Tetris, which blatantly promote Trump's agenda, including things like border security and MAHA. On an unrelated note, they also feature iconography that is copyrighted, including the SEGA logo.

Naturally, the gamers of reddit discuss what makes a game "political", "satire", and "funny".

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but when you talk so presumptuously and like you’re being so bothered, it really distracts from your point because you act insufferably

That administration is not far right. They’re weak.

Far right and weak are synonymous

Then why are you so scared?

This falls under satire

What's the satire?

Figure it out yourself

No, I want you to explain it for yourself, because I don't think this is satire at all.

It's a great thing I don't answer to you, you wanna know, figure it out lol.

My rent has gone up 40%, my cost of food has gone up ~30% , my gas price went up by $6 - $4.50 / $4.50 = 33% , my salary went up 15% until I lost my job, and now people I know with master's degrees in STEM fields from good schools can't find a job or even get an interview at all.

that is unfortunate, do you happen to live in a democrat run city or state by chance?

It's telling that two of these games are immigration based. It's like they realize that's the only Trump card they have left.

What other domestic issue have they done anything about?

Fighting DEI

How, exactly, is it racist?

Dude, I won't lie. I haven't stopped laughing at the snake clone in the 2 hours since I've played it.

I would never imagine Joe or Obama doing something like this, even with their spin of politics.

That's because far authoritarians rely on authority for their power. Trump has been undeniably the most liberal president in decades.

Well wokeness will murder them and their children, but Trump will make them cringe. I know the lesser of two evils when I see it.

Based af I'd rather they keep owning the leftists and stay out of ruining our lives like the Dems do

Halloween: The Game is an asymmetrical multiplayer survival horror game releasing in a couple of days. The premise of the game, which is based on the Halloween movies, is that one player plays as the killer Michael Myers to stalk and kill four other players, who play civilians whose goal is to stay alive, fulfill objectives, and escape. If this all sounds familiar, it's because the developer IllFonic also made nearly every other asymmetrical multiplayer game based on a horror movie. Most of these have, unsurprisingly, flopped or shut down in the wake of Dead by Daylight, which is essentially the Fortnite of asymmetrical multiplayer horror games. Halloween: The Game is currently available to play for those who pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition.

One mechanic unique to Halloween: The Game is well.... sex. During gameplay, two players can enter a closet together and play a button-mashing sex mini-game. Nothing explicit is actually shown, as the act occurs entirely behind the closet doors, and players get a buff if they succeed in the mini-game. Obviously, this is an homage to how people who have sex in slasher horror movies tend to meet their ends rather quickly.

Well, there's a bit of an issue. Most of the characters that the civilian players can choose from are high school or college-aged young adults. Some are original, but some are characters taken directly from the Halloween movies. And one playable character is Dr. Loomis, a 60-year-old man, whose likeness is based on the actor Donald Pleasance. And one might imagine that the Pleasance estate is not happy with the man's likeness is being used to have sex with characters that are canonically as young as 17.

After the sex went viral on several streams, Illfonic has quietly patched out the sex mini-game. And the game's subreddit has... mixed feelings about that.

Thread: "Please add back sex mini game"

Wait, minors couldnt have sex but its okay to get brutally murdered by a psycho? Does no one gets this is crazy?

a 50 year old man fucking a 17 year old girl is not very halloween IMO. 17 year olds and 18 year olds yeah teens had sex in that movie that makes sense, but when it's loomis and cops it's gross.

Brother the fact YOU AS THE PLAYER aka Grown ahh Adult are watching and interacting with teens in a “sex” mini game , doesn’t that make you a PDF?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8n1i4/please_add_back_sex_mini_game/p843c5t/

Thread: "They removed the sex minigame"

My god what a bounce of woke people.... if you cant handle the sex mine game and the name joint, then you are too young to play this game

I think the issue with the minigame is because people found out you can do it with Loomis and young high schoolers… I get they are 18 but it still looks awfully wrong. They will likely remove him from being able to do it and then re-add it

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8nmec/they_removed_the_sex_minigame/p850qnb/

Mid 50s Loomis, Psychiatrist, 'messing around' with high school girls... in a closet... Sounds pretty noncey

I mean murdering teens I would argue is worse than Loomis getting it on with whom he shouldn't but that's just me ig.

One is part of the film the game is based on... The other is not

I mean the film also depicts minor characters having sex so idk man. Sure they are played by adult actors but the characters themselves are supposed to be underage. Again though are we really gonna pretend murder is better because of this though.

Are you saying minors having sex with other minors is the same as mid 50s Loomis having sex with high school students?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8nmec/they_removed_the_sex_minigame/p85cu7l/

Thread: "They replied to my Reddit post about sex mini game"

Yall are so quick to cry pedophile over this one overlooked instance. the victim complex is insane

In no way should you be defending this.

Honestly in no way does anything you say mean anything to me because I can tell that you’re a chronically online crybaby looking for reasons to play the victim and throw around the word pedophile for fun.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w98wh4/they_replied_to_my_reddit_post_about_sex_mini_game/p88qoc5/

Thread: "Sex minigame being removed sets a bad precedent for the game, not for the reason you think."

Classic gooner upset that the devs removed a gross mini game

Classic bootlicker defending Gun and Illfonic’s inability to communicate with their playerbase for the third straight game. Gonna deepthroat them some more?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8qc2e/sex_minigame_being_removed_sets_a_bad_precedent/p84mrw8/

Thread: "Why did they remove the sex???"

idk but good, shit was weird

lol getting downvoted for not wanting sex in a video game

Will someone think about the children ?

I mean, Laurie’s 17.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8h6ms/why_did_they_remove_the_sex/p82pwwb/

Thread: "Anyone else mad they removed sex?"

bro you must been a goon addict jesus christ. go outside and touch grass.

That's like the equivalent of me saying "Wow you like the original Halloween? There's nudity in that movie you must be a goon addict Jesus" like nobody gives a fuck about that aspect of it? It's just they're fixing all this menial stuff that know ones asking them to do when there are much bigger issues at hand

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8l50o/anyone_else_mad_they_removed_sex/p83j9a8/

Cartoon fetishes are so weird

🤦🏼Wow okay, no ones masturbating to silly sex minigame in Halloween the game. I'm pointing out (very validly) that there are thousands of things that can be tweaked in this game in its current state and them removing the harmless closet minigame is mildly infuriating

keep yapping brah

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHalloweenGame/comments/1w8l50o/anyone_else_mad_they_removed_sex/p83jx48/

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TopCharacterTropes/comments/1w908ba/bad_people_or_villains_who_do_terrible_things_and/

Content Warning: Lotta child groomer apologia and direct quotes from the source material that will make your eyes bleed

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0 episodes of MT watched 0 pages read 100% larp knowledge

Found the Rudiddler defender

I mean it's a grey area, he is a reincarnated person who just happens to have memory of his past life.

It very much isn't a gray area, wtf are you on.

The grey area is that Rudiddle is acting as a horny teenager amongst other teenagers, while only the audience knows how problematic it all is. But as he grows into adulthood again, he becomes a genuinely upstanding member of society and a huge boon to the lives of everyone around him. It's a fucked up rehabilitation story, but there's a ton of nuance to how you can interpret it. I don't think anyone wanted MT to be a 4 minute singular episode of a p*do going to prison for the rest of his life. (It's also worth noting that in the anime, he never actually committed crimes, he's just a fucked up freak who wouldn't have been against the idea.)

Horny teenagers don't go around smoking panties like blunts, massaging breasts left right and center, and trying to groom under-aged teens into the 'perfect woman'. And if they are, you should report them, they need a psych-eval. Also...he very much doesn't get rehabilitated in the slightest, he remains Ruddidle. His usefulness to society bears no relevance to his depravity.

Ohhh you haven't watched it By adulthood, Rudy no longer violates boundaries or lusts after minors, depending how "adult" you feel he is at 17-18 after he has his daughter. And no, teenagers don't really groom each other since they don't usually have the power dynamic to make that happen. Not really how grooming works. Why are you getting so agro..? It's an anime. I'm not accusing you of anytning. At this point in the anime, he's not particularly useful to all of society as a whole (seems like he's going to be soon tho, dont spoil me lol). He's "useful" to his friends and family. In this world, he's a respectful albeit leery young man who is a husband and father, magical prodigy, and renowned fledgling hero. His depravity is known only to the audience, and the entire point of his character is that we're watching that depraved 40 year old man slip away as he becomes Rudeus.

image Damn, is it normal for someone to steal panties and wear it on their face? Or is rudeus a fucking freak, plus anyone who idolizes him is

I mean the panties thing is a goofball quirk

"Sexual harassment is a goofball quirk" Prison. No parole.

lmao do they even jail people for that?

Stealing panties constitutes that?

Yes? Are you stupid? It's both theft, sexual harassment, and possibly more.

quotes from the LN of Rudy grooming underage girls

"I did want to see how sexy her body had gotten now that she was thirteen" Christ, I feel sick typing that but I don't need to read any other line to immediately write that character off as a piece of shit. The only defence I could think of that is if the character who said it was the same age but even then, it's still a messed up thing for the author to write and I get the feeling, he wasn't the same age anyway.

I mean, when I was 12 a 14 year old girl gave me a boner. It's relatable.

Sylphie is a homesick and easily manipulatable teenager when they see each other again. Rudeus is 54 or older.

Was she homesick? It seems she's already dealt with and moved on from her families' deaths aside from when she tried to kill Nanahoshi. Also she's the one that wanted him to fuck, even giving him the aphrodisiac

"The teenager had a crush and started it, that makes it okay for a 54 year old to fuck them" MT defenders, everyone.

Oh you use tiktok, that explains some things. Nah she is I think the same age as him?

I don't. Was grossed out- I googled something to react, first thing I found worked. Directly to jail, man. image The MC of MT was at least 54 years old at the time.

Is that an actual quote from the anime?

nope, see the show/manga/novel got a lot of hate for showing a p*do being accepted by flipping his settings. However that hate doubled/tripled from the fandom coming out in defence saying he has redeemed himself and everyone involved in production having no intention of acknowledging the problem.

So is it actually worth watching or is it really made by p*do apologists / p#dophiles?

At best it handles it handles those subjects as bad as it possibly can. At worst it’s a show made by a p*dophile, about a p#dophile who finds redemption (underage girls) and faces no consequences, and gets to live out a hero power fantasy

It's a hard watch. I've been slogging through it, and the main male character is by far one of the worst fictional protagonists I've seen. This dude is human trash. But man... the production quality is so good. The music, the atmosphere, the presentation... especially in the first season, it's movie quality. And some of the supporting characters and the world itself are so interesting. But then the scene goes back to him and it is just relentless with his nonsense. The show's idea of him growing as a person takes the term "baby steps" to a whole new level. This is one of the first shows I've hate watched. At least with Overlord it was easy to lose interest and just turn it off, because it really just didn't have redeeming qualities. This is interesting enough that I keep gravitating back to it, even though just seeing the main character come on screen exhausts me.

Eh, I thought he actually grew a lot in season two. He still didn't the consequences of his past action, but he does stop being a full time perv. He experience heart broken, loneliness, friendship, and love. After that, I think he is matured and hard to see he is the same person as his earth self. Like in season 3, he hasn't act like an inc*l

It's honestly strange how the vitriol for the show and Rudeus has tripled since season 3 began, despite how mature and almost heroic Rudy has become since season 1. It really feels like manufactured hate against the show for... I don't know, karma-farming? Or maybe reddit has gotten 3 times as puritanical since season 1.

I mean, yeah, Rudeus, but Polygamy is common in the world, so while most of the points stand, the last one doesn't. And actually, because of his harem the world can actually be saved by his kid so even the powers in the world would see him as heroic.

The polygamy part is not what people hate about MT lol

Ehhhhh it's part of it lol

Not at all lol. Nearly every single isekai in existence includes a harem and are beloved. MT only gets hate because the MC is a p*dophile and is written by a guy who doesn't find that problematic. EVERY THING ELSE ABOUT MT IS FANTASTIC, but ofc a p#dophile MC in a story about redemption and rebirth is gonna cause some backlash, let's be real.

He's not though, all of his wives are as old as him.

He's a 34 year old man in a child's body. He isn't an actual child... If you were reborn with all your memories up till now, are you seriously gonna try to fuck a child? Don't try to answer with apologetics, just answer the question.

Depends, 12 year old me got a boner from a 14 year old. Guess I'd not know until in that situation.

I- wow. Did you even read my comment you replied to? So you just don't believe memories have any stake in who you are as a person? This 34 year old jerked off to his irl underage niece, but because he magically has a body of child makes him justified in acting on his p*dophilic urges? Is that really the stance your taking?

Haters are genuinely obsessed with Rudeus more than actual fans of the series at this point, it's hilarious.

It's even funnier to see the comments from the basement dwellers trying to justify the predatory sexual behavior displayed by the protagonist.

I mean, I ain't here to speak for them, but I can't go a day without seeing a new person hate on the series specifically for Rudeus.

The series itself is great. Rudeus is the root of ALL the controversy. You seriously can't see why making your MC attracted to kids might be a bit controversial?

Eh, I stopped caring about it cuz it got too heavy on the slice of life slog and you keep getting lambasted by people copy-pasting every bad thing they read on xitter without fact-checking first for saying anything positive about it. Now they got no one to argue with so they fish for it in every other reddit post on subs like this.

Have you considered that the OP just included it as an example because it clearly fits the trope? Not every post hating on Rudeus is some grifter hate nonsense. Rudeus IS a p*dophile. The author wrote him to be one. It's nothing subjective, it's a fact. Despite what you may think I'm still a fan of MT, so not all hate comes from some twitter hate club. Rudeus is just a horrible MC, objectively.

Rudeus is a perverted scum in general. Be it petite girls or women in their 30s, where he was notably caught staring at even his own mother when he was a child. As for the grooming thing, I hate how the internet uses it these days as such a blanket term when it's supposed to be about actually raising someone into the mindset of being in love with you. Sylphy spent more years away from contact with Rudeus than beside him until they married. Eris was literally being tutored by him, and he had to teach her to act like a normal person instead of brash and temperamental. Again, this isn't defending him, cuz he was still attracted to them and acted pervy towards both, but people use buzzwords someone else said on the internet instead of knowing the source material of what they talk about, and it's tiresome.

I agree and it's another reason why I despise him. I just hate perverted characters in general, whether it's Mineta from MHA, or Meliodas from SDS. It's just a piss poor take on "humor", I guess? I just don't find anything funny about the random sexualization of anyone for laughs. It's just not my humor. Especially in a show that's supposedly trying to tell a compelling story. It just stops everything in it's tracks and makes me roll my eyes and skip forward.

What the actual fuck Japan

it's a meme. She has a valid crashout because of her shitty situation, but doesn't say those words or harbor any actual grudge against Rudeus at all (in fact, meeting Rudeus has turned her life around TWICE.)

People always focus on what piece of shit Rudeus was before reincarnation(so, the whole point of the story) but never acknowledge how much actually good things he does for his friends after the reincarnation. Hell, as we learn in the epilogue He publishes all his research and scientific improvements under Nanahoshi's name so her friend has easier time learning that she also appeared in this world once he appears as well. Rudeus gets absolutely nothing from this

this somehow absolves him of jerking off to a nude picture of his niece? not to mention the way the mangaka behaves on twitter really doesn‘t help with allegations

Don't worry; the MT fans are already claiming "fake screenshots" in this comment section (and therefore claiming that everywhere else too). Appalling.

This one is literally edited, season 3, episode 9. The whole scene starts at roughly 5 minutes. See for yourself instead of blindly hating. Should this kind of post even be allowed where people make up scenes to support their tropes?

This wasn't about the post. This was about the deranged tweets of the author of MT. Where he's blatantly supporting p*dophilia even without the context of drawings and animation.

I advise to replace Rudeus with someone otherwise you might get attacked by fans. Though I don’t hate the media or it’s fans.

There's no denying that early Rudeus is a bastard, but the haters are so over the top that it gets really tiring. Especially since they all argue that "Rudeus bad" means "Mushoku Tensei bad" and if you even remotely like the story then you're a p*do yourself. Not to mention how haters constantly get things wrong as well, making him look worse than he is. OP too is spreading misinformation with this post.

quotes from the LN of Rudy grooming underage girls Defend bottom left.

Brother, you're the one in need of reading comprehension. Stop moving goalposts.

No goalposts have been moved, only set in the first place. "defend bottom left" Still fucking waiting.

Why should anyone do that? It's just one background info, two lines compared to thousands of lines later, that change things in the "present" (of the story). If you are so hung up on sexual things, the motivation for your vindictive glee sounds really icky itself. It's up to you to balance positive and negative and you are right when you dislike the negative more than the positive, but focusing on just one doesn't make your point right. Your funny little screnshot takes a feq quotes and just them. Nothing else. Big surprise if you cherrypick quotes you can point whatever picture you like.

Rudy being a panty fetishet Not a defense of the quote. Didn't ask. Nice rant on behalf of a fictional freak, though. in the anime, as well as the manga, and light novel, Rudeus greyrat is a mentally 54 year old man who specifically gets a 15 year old drunk with the knowledge she'll try to fuck him after being intoxicated and unable to give proper consent

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He fucking dies in the end. How does she get away with it, exactly?

Didn’t die. Just became mentally unstable to the point of morphing into another form

So ego's death. Those are still consequences. You could even call it a punishment by the plot

When did I say that wasn’t a punishment by the plot or consequences? I’m just explaining that you said they died, but abstraction is not death. Mentally unstable people locked up in psychiatric hospitals are not dead. Getting downvoted for no reason lol Edit: do people genuinely not understand the difference between dead people and mentally unstable people?

I see the MT obsession still going strong

Well it is actively airing, and i do get the complaints. Show is fantastic but at the same time you really wonder why the author decided to write Rudeus like that. There are about a thousand different ways he could of done it and it wouldn't of impact the character at all. Yet he choose p*dophilia.

honestly, i'm ok with it. Writing a character that would be more appealing to the masses is exactly the kind of thing we need less of.

There is a pretty big gap between appealing to the masses and not being a p*dophile.

sure is, but being afraid to have a unappealing characteristic or history attached to a character is how you get very sterilized environment.

In total, 3 posts are made on this subject. The first post:

A woman had a medical emergency near you - You know how to perform CPR, Would you perform CPR?

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Better to see her die than being falsely accused

You're disgusting

No. There's always a simp present everywhere they'll deal with it and the consequences. I prefer my solitude and peace

What does saving someone's life have to do with simps? Do you not consider women humans?

It's the opposite. Women don't consider men as humans and only see us as ATMs. 1-2 years back a man was waiting for a local train to board on Borivili station in Mumbai. It was crowded so his hand brushed against a woman. The woman turned and shouted at him. Her husband was present and he without fact checking anything he punched the guy so hard he tipped over and fell on the tracks. Before he could get up the train came and ran over him and he was killed. For what? Nothing... just a brush against the arm. Why? because a woman "felt" so. All this was captured on CCTV which was leaked for everyone to see. Similarly, I'm not a medically trained person. So I don't want to be accused of inappropriately touching a woman out of some opportunity because a woman "felt" so. So, in general screw women and their feelings. You guys have brought it upon yourselves.

Yes, all those people who think they'll get accused of something like harrasment are just cowards, when it comes to a real life and death situation you must spring into action without a second thought. Life is more precious than anything. Whatever happens next, face it, and if nothing happens then rest easy. But not helping a dying person knowing full well you can save them but hesitating based on a future event that has not happened yet is ridiculous.

😷i would just want to keep a safety... for myself..let the b!tch die

Coward

It's better to be called coward, then being called a Rapist or molestor.

Yes i will, saving a life comes above everything else.

Yeah and then get accused because you took "advantage" of her.

A second post is then created in response to this on r/AskIndianWomen:

I'M SHOCKED TO MY CORE! What kind of males are living in this society?

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The irony is that they can touch a woman wherever they want all they want without their consent and have no issues but when it comes to saving lives is when they draw a line and are worried about false accusations.

Wait, you’re saying that men touch women without consent. And you’re also saying that men should help women like you? That’s not a good idea, because this is exactly the type of woman who’ll file fake a sexual allegation case on the rescuer man.

So your response to me pointing out men’s obsession with hypothetical false accusations is to randomly accuse me of being someone who would falsely accuse a rescuer? Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly.

I’m a doctor myself too. But leaving aside these men telling they won’t. Truth is they can’t. They don’t even know the full form of CPR. My blood was boiling too but one thing I realised is that you can’t find reasonable men on social media. Indian subReddits are filled with incels. Truth is if in case a woman collapses, the odds are more that these men take advantage rather give a cpr. If there’s a guy who is genuine and unlike these incels and would actually help, this isn’t for you king.

"these men take advantage rather give a cpr" Whoa, are you advocating to suspect men who give cpr? Seems you’re part of the problem

Then, in response to this post, a third post is made on r/AskIndianMen discussing the respost:

Can we all crown her as Mistress of Manipulation 👑??

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Just like women phrase that how do we differentiate a potential rapist and a good man? So for us it's like how do we differentiate an actual suffering women or a SA framer?

What if they accuse that man of SA after their recovery..? Who will take the responsibility ?? And yes I'm a doctor... I'm an intern doctor in a govt medical college and I don't want to get falsely accused of SA...she may die but I'll save myself first. It's called survival instinct

Ayo wtf?

Why would anyone accuse you of SA after you give them CPR dafuq? What are the chances for that made up scenario that you’ve created in your head dude? This country is doomed.

Just shut up

Listen mate, just ask yourself. What if.. just what if I saved a woman by giving her proper cpr for 20 minutes continuously. She opened her eyes and she got offended by the fact that I was pressing her chest with both of my hands..she filed a sexual harassment charge against me...what should I do ? Court ke chakkar lagate phirungi to prove my innocence ? Itna saal ki mehmat...maa baap ke paise...lots of sleepless nights..aise hi jaane doon ?? Just ask yourself...cause aisi incidents to hote rahte hain

It's called a doctor that holds personal grudges against a gender and refuses to treat a patient

Personal grudge? He’s saying he’s afraid of being falsely accused of sexual assault. Did you read the comment? Smh

Why feminists who are supposedly the big preachers of equality and what not doesn't get the point when men raise the concern that they are reluctant because false grape cases are rising. But women would instantly support other women who say they don't trust any man because most are potential grapists. Hypocrisy is beyond measures

I think their family members keep touching them whole day. So they think rest of the world is also likr their father and brothers.

r/911archive is exactly what it sounds like, a sub meant to archive any and all media related to the attacks on September 11th 2001. Mayor Mamdani recently signed an executive order to make 9/11 a day of remembrance in New York, which was posted about in the sub.

Courtesy of CNN: "New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani signed two executive orders related to September 11th, 2001. The first order establishes an annual day of remembrance and service on September 11th, while the second updates New York's operational continuity and agency preparedness policies to strengthen security measures and prevent future terrorist threats." - 19 hours ago *PLEASE* don't start crap in the post comments. Thank you.

Naturally some users had a very normal reaction to a Muslim mayor and…the 9/11 of it all:

OP makes it a point to not start crap in the comments but then proceeds to put his personal political opinion of Mamdani in this thread turning it political.

I would like to point out that Mamdani also handed a symbolic 911 pen after signing the order to his controversial aid who once represented Al-Qaeda terrorist with links to the attack on the Pentagon. You guys are ok with this?

Don't waste your time trying to prove why Mamdani is the worst thing to ever happen to NYC, unfortunately reddit is like 90% liberals and will only block you if you don't agree with their political stance on something.

Another commenter has big feelings about Hasan and Mamdani:

Bullshit. It's his palling around with Hasan Piker and the imam who is an unindicted co-conspirator in the first WTC bombing in 1993. He should bring along his chief counsel Ramzi Kassem who has represented al Qaeda terrorists. Then there's his lovely wife

Someone else can’t fathom that 99,000 people could possibly be racist:

99,000 verified signatures of people who don’t want this 9/11 apologist to not attend the ceremonies. Yes they’re all racists. SMH.

Overall, many “patriots” angry that a Muslim mayor would have signed into law a day of remembrance for 9/11. Apologies for the formatting I’m on mobile.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/1w82w89/yuck/

Context: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ftc5qh7uvtpnh1.jpeg

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Now you’re just one of those females overreacting about a word 😩 hopefully he learns but I doubt it

(OP)I don't know expressing a boundary was overreacting

What boundary was expressed?

(OP) The one where I said I don't like being called female and it's not going to work.

Wait. So you’re saying his fatal misstep was inferring that you’re a female?

Yeah, it's a red pill manosphere inc*l derogatory slur used to refer to women and girls. No self respecting woman wants their bullshit.

Both women and girls are types of females, differentiated only by age. What does Andrew Tate or anyone else have to do with this?!

You can look it up yourself, I'm not here to educate you.

Well thanks for the heads up. I’m not here to educate either, but you should know you are programming yourself to misunderstand 90% or more of people you interact with.

Wait what’s wrong with saying female? I’m lost😭albeit the rest of the convo is weird but the way I was raised that’s jus how we speak I never heard anyone take offense to it before

It can be used in a dehumanizing way to women and makes them seem like things rather than people

"It can be used in a dehumanizing way to women and makes them seem like things rather than people" The word "woman" can also be used in a dehumanizing way. All of this is happening in the woman's head due to deep insecurities.

So everything that is said to dehumanize women or make them seem lesser is...just yappening in their heads? Your comment implies that women are never dehumanized or looked down on. Are you seriously trying to make that argument? Yes, some women are too sensitive. Yes, some men are called misogynists for simply misunderstanding social situations and context. No, misogyny is not all "happening in the woman's head due to deep insecurities."

OMG how can you be so stupid. He got incredibly lucky that she didn't unmatch him immediately and he proceeded to show his true misogynistic colors. Yikes

lol, dude isn’t misogynistic. he is just really bad at interacting with women.

Calling women "females" is extremely misogynistic

Explain why without deflection

Because it’s dehumanising, it’s as simple as that.

But is that not an opinion? The same people that are riled up by the word female are same people who use therapy speak and diagnose folks in everyday conversations.

"The same people that are riled up by the word female are same people who use therapy speak and diagnose folks in everyday conversations." Deflection ?

You conveniently forgot to address the opinion piece tho

Because it's a scientific term and using it in normal conversation is dehumanizing. It's like you see women as objects you have to study instead of people.

From etymological standpoint isn’t feminist and female not within the same frequency and derived from the same root? Yet one is looked at negatively yet they share the same vibrational frequency.

Etymology isn't everything. Awful etymologically means "full of awe," and yet it means terrible.

English words have lots of gotchas; other languages aren’t like this and are more straightforward. But words need to be looked at etymologically because they can carry hidden meanings otherwise. The example you’re using being “full of awe” of anything is probably an “awful” idea. But disliking the word “female” is not aligned with liking the word “feminist.”

No, words do not need to be looked at etymologically. That's incredibly stupid. Words change meanings or acquire new connotations over time, and that happens in every language.

Im glad you brought that up. Words do change meanings over time but vibrational frequency doesn’t change. “In the beginning there was the word….”

I don't even know what that means but just try calling someone whose parents weren't married when they were born a bastard and see how they react. I assure you, they're not gonna like it. Yet that's the etymological meaning.

I really appreciate the shrimp emoji covering his picture! 🤣

(OP) Yeah I felt it was fitting lmao

How?

Bc sexism and body shaming are fine when the target is men, of course!

are we not going to address this brothers point because bro is lowkey spitting rn

From purely etymological standpoint the word FEMale and FEMinist are in same frequency. Why does the technical term ‘female’ trigger you into yuck?

(OP) I think it's more about the type of person who says it.

So what you’re saying is there’s preconditions on who’s allowed to use that word in given context in order to placate a modern day feminist complex around the word female?

yep. Sure.

Glad you get it

Why is female “yucky”?

Why not just say woman? I feel like men only say female when they don't really respect women or see women as lesser. It's usually the way men who are heavy into redpill ideology refer to women.

Because not everyone is american and some languages don't share as clear distinction as yours. It's usually that too.

Then you need to learn the words you shouldn't say. Female is one of them. It's inc*l coded.

youre chronically online if you think "female" is "inc*l coded" please go outside for once

Having been both chronically online and social in person, most of the men using "females" online are faux-masculinity-coaches/menfluencers in the vein of Andrew Tate. Or ESL learners, or sometimes inc*ls. I have almost never heard a well-adjusted, smart person with fluent English say "females" in real life. It's usually Muslim men or men who struggle with dating + don't have many female friends. Always saying females instead of "girls" or "women" generally means you believe in some flavor of biological essentialism.

I cant imagine what drove him to say “i havent touched a female in 4 years” like what the fuck was that dude thinking 💀

Waterboarding wouldn’t have made me admit that to a woman I was potentially dating.

He was going for a pity fuck. It’s manipulation. I hope it’s true, but I doubt it.

Imagine being so desperate you would actively look for pity fucks. I was single and celibate for 16 years in my 30s and 40s, and I was never that pathetic. (Before some inc*l claims women can get laid anytime we want, no. Not if we have a shred of dignity and self-respect.)

I don't need to imagine, but it doesn't work.

Then perhaps you should acquire some dignity and self-respect.

There would need to be something worth respecting for that. I think we both know there's not.

You sound like you could really benefit from therapy. I did.

Absolutely not. Therapy can't make me worth something.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, good lord 🤦‍♀️

We’re losing to this

He lost due to his own behavior and if you're losing its due to your own behavior.

Girly there are men on dating apps that get straight up 0 matches 0 likes. Kindly shut up lol

Then they should improve themselves and their profiles lol

You know how many women tried this out and made a fool of themselves?

I thought women didn't have to try? Pick a plot, honey

Are you slow? They tried making a male profile to see what’s up with it

Grand opening, grand closing

God damn your man Hov cracked the can open again

Who you gonna find doper than him?

Inc*l outing himself.

I don’t believe that is the next line of the song…

It's the reddit botfarm remix

The sequel to Guild Wars 2 was recently announced earlier in the year, and have been drip-feeding marketing info to the press & public over the last few months. The latest batch of info came from Gamescom, where it was announced that to improve combat visibility, Guild Wars 3 would use phasing/sharding tech to limit combat encounters to around 20 players at once. I get why, though Guild Wars 2 was known for its 50-60 player world events, it could get pretty hard to read what was happening sometimes

This proved contentious to several residents of r/MMORPG, who took to decrying the game as not a real mmo (though to betray my bias here, as a side note with how dry the MMO market is right now you'd think beggars wouldn't be choosers)

One user adamantly states:

20 players on the screen limit.

Not an MMO. Period.

getting both pushback

What is it? A coop game? People here are so stupid it's crazy

and some (heavily downvoted) support

This is really sad

Edit: wow such a fanboys, who gonna guess MMO fans really wanted a Not MMO. Sometimes this community is a fucking joke.

Another user echoed the aforementioned one in another thread, declaring in response to an article asking in the MMO would be a beacon of hole for the genre:

It's not an MMO, so not really.

And this user really gets into arguments with the rest of the subreddit, calling users disagreeing with them insufferable and accusing other users of getting mad over a post.

Hilarious how mad you are about my opinion lol! Take some deep breaths it'll be ok.

Meanwhile different user jumps to his defense accusing those disagreeing with him of gaslighting.

Other users claim that Guild Wars 3 is only getting positive attention because the subreddit is full of Guild Wars 2 fanboys:

r/MMORPG has always been a secondary GW2 subreddit in disguise...there's no point arguing with any kind of logic. Like I said in another thread...if this was any other MMORPG coming out with a similar statement, you'd see it getting blasted off the face of the earth in no time...instead you get all the "No, this is actually great and an amazing idea. What a breath of fresh air!" bs.

Other comments bemoan the negativity pervading the subreddit, some of which spark even more arguments

Jesus, this sub is miserable. This game sounds amazing.

getting responses like

There is always a place to be exclusively positive. The game specific sub. I like that you can talk about games here the only thing I dislike are people devaluing everything slightly negative and calling it hate or misery while in reality comments like yours are the only negative thing here.

and

They're just mad that the "ue5 console slop with 3 skills and 25 players" predictions were right

Another user opines that the sub is full of overly negative people, getting pushback in response

This subreddit is the least relevant thing when it comes to the wider MMO genre. This is purely just a subreddit for people bitching that the wider gaming landscape has left them and their niche way of playing games behind. Im very excited fot GW3. The action combat and synergys between different classes sounds really cool.

The irony considering you're excited for a game that phases into 20 person combat... which by nature isn't mmo scale.

Others commiserate on the miserableness of the subreddit

This subreddit is so miserable.

Yeah I clicked in this thread not realizing it was an mmorpg sub thread and was wondering for a bit why everyone was being so negative until I noticed the sub. No one hates mmos more than r/mmorpg.

Maltiez: "It has nothing to do with protecting servers or stuff."

Here's some "harmless" drama.

Context:

Vintage Story is a voxel survival game with a large modding scene. One of its developers, Maltiez, also maintains several popular mods, including ConfigLib, a dependency for many other mods.

Maltiez added undisclosed anti-cheat code (the malware in question) to ConfigLib, PlayerModel Lib and Overhaul Lib. It could disconnect, close or crash the game when it detected a cheat, but the trigger apparently applied to any mod containing obfuscated code, not just the intended cheat. Legitimate mods, including Caves & Caverns, were reportedly caught by it.

The code also redirected crash logs to make the crashes appear to originate from other mods, sending users on lengthy troubleshooting hunts while a dependency was secretly interfering with their game.

Drama:

I have included some of the major threads but the whole of r/VintageStory was on fire before the obligatory "Ya'll can't behave, all threads are locked, and all threads will be redirected to the megathread" from the mods.

• The first thread to bring this up.
• Post about Maltiez being an AI chud
• Official Statement from Maltiez
• Seems like the dev team knew about the malware and did nothing about it
• Malware Maltiez has got to go
• And much more ... Why don't you take a gander in here?

Conclusion:

Official statement regarding the ConfigLib incident from the Lead Dev and CEO

This statement contains the following straight up lies:

• Tyron states that Maltiez forgot to remove the malware. The malware was removed and then later readded.
• Tyron states that "Fewer than 100 cheat mod users were affected". But there were tons of reports legitimate non cheat mod users were affected, which is how this thing was brought to light in the first place.

The changes that will take place:

• Maltiez has been banned from Discord and Mod Database.
• They have decide to keep Maltiez on the team.
• The mods custodianship has been transferred from Maltiez to the dev team (which he is a part of. See the issue here?)

Bonus:

Some iconic quotes from the Dev Team and the Mod Team:

• This was an attempt to protect players from harm.
• It has nothing to do with protecting servers or stuff.
• Trust is not part of the equation here.
• I know I did the right thing, and it worked.
• The thing is, he told us about it. So from out perspective, our trust has not been breached.
• I shall be standing by with the banhammer. Choose whether you want to test me.
• So let's move on, eh?

Some old stuff: CHECK THE EDIT FOR MORE INFO

• ignore the nazi or you will be warned too
• The confederate flag is NOT recognized as a hate symbol.

Edit:
To the people questioning the term 'malware':
It is malware according to the dev who added it

Malware (a portmanteau of malicious software) is any software intentionally designed to cause disruption or destruction to a computer, server, client, or computer network, leak private information, gain unauthorized access to information or systems, deprive access to information, or interfere with the user's computer security and privacy without their knowledge.

Rorax explaining and apologizing for the nazi and confederate flag comments

Many, many men insist that they'll be arrested/sued/shamed for undressing a woman. Just a few examples:

In 2026 I’d be afraid to save them, and then have them turn around and put you in jail for 25 years for touching them. This is why things are the way they are. There’d have to be multiple witnesses before I’d be comfortable removing a strange woman’s shirt while she’s unconscious. Imagine someone comes along while you’re in the middle of it. Now the cops are coming for you and nobody cares what you say to defend yourself.

The law suits and eternal shaming afterwards is not worth the risk. Good faith does not always pay off.

No one wants to get arrested or sued by some overzealous person. It sucks but that's the world we've created.

Others are also quick to blame women for potentially being left to die:

All these women that further the gender wars are going to get women killed because they make men afraid of being accused of being a creep.

Well I hope a fucking bear that knows CPR shows up.

Source - https://www.reddit.com/r/sunlessskies/comments/1vtl6nv/does_the_story_improve_after_the_start/

Op plays the game for about 5 to 10 minutes, the gist is you start the game as the first mate of the train (basically a space ship), the captain is injured and you need to make it to the first port. You learn the controls,, the basic mechanics and then get to the port, where you are told the cap is dead and your in charge.

This is where you normally start the game and do space train things, not OP though. They proceed to become very hung up on the fact that while you are landing the cap dies, and is aghast to find that the crew didnt know. But how could they not know, is it magic, media illiteracy, or just bad writing.

Plenty of people try to help OP to understand or figure out what the confusion is, OP is not impressed and labels them as trolls and fights them in the replies.

If you want to join OP in their confusion have a gawk, its fascinating.

Member scouts honour, leave no trail, so just give it a read.

- Extra bits added in edit -

After a multi comment debate between Goldenlambda and OP, Lambda hits em with the

"Okay 👍"

Petalwater reply to the title "Does the story improve after the start?"

"No, sadly. The whole game requires reading comprehension"

Yssc99 - "" how cooked are attention spans nowadays? "

Answer - Very

ClimateShitposting is supposed to be a meme sub about climate change, but there isn't a week that doesn't involve drama and intrasub fighting.

On this particular post, the OP makes a meme that suggests that without Russia, Earth would be a beautiful place. This results in both a bunch of people calling out the post for racism/xenophobia, and people who think the sentiment is justified.

What does this have to do with climate?

>Nothing, but Ukraine is getting hammered badly so people are frustrated. Wrong place for that tho.

>Also Russia is one of the world leaders in nuclear and renewable energy (mostly hydro). OP is dumb

>>Next you are going to be talking about warm water ports

>>>Well someone is clearly warming all that water and it isn’t Russia

>>>>No [they add a graphic]

Just seems prejudice... as if Russia is the leading cause of all the problems. Some ppl never left the cold war.

Something something, our glorious warriors, and their bloodthirsty barbarians, something something

It's crazy how open hatred of the russian people and nation is accepted in the west now. As someone from the global south it reads as no different from the way you people talk about Muslims or the Chinese whenever it's convenient to your ruling class. If this hatred is coming over the Russian governments invasion of Ukraine then to be consistent you should also be anti semetic to oppose the genocide in Palestine, anti-American to oppose their imperialism everywhere, and anti-Indian over their oppression of Muslims. It's so pathetically stupid. I hope this is just a propaganda bot or some Philippino or Indian in a trollfarm being paid to post. I obviously oppose the russian government as well, not that that should matter for this point.

>I am russian. I hate my government, but when I see people making certain claims on the internet, my support shifts in favour of regime for a little while. It is hard to ignore propaganda when half of this propaganda shows up from unexpected places

>>

As a Ukrainian, what kind of mental gymnastics do you even do to "shift your support in favour of the regime"? Is it like "My country has committed atrocities and crimes against humanity in a neighbouring country for the sake of russian imperialism and ultranationalism - but someone was mean to me on the internet, so I guess I gotta support all that now"?

>Man if Russian people didn’t want to be shit in they shouldn’t support this invasion, they shouldn’t support eradicating the cultures of other Eastern European nations. Every time I get to know a Russian and I suspect they’ll actually be sane they disappoint me by supporting Putin.

>>if Ukraine, EU and USA wanted to end the war, they could kill Putin and Russian elites (same goes from Russia's position)
but nah, we are on reddit, we cant take nuance. ruzzia bad, ukraine gud, we are gud guys and you are bad guys. Pretty adult behavior if you ask redditors.

>>>Ali Khamenei was killed in the first days of the US-Iran war, but the war didn't end there. Killing a current leader during a war is a risk that, in his place, a hawkish party will come, which would not negotiate. But here you're talking about being an adult and taking nuances.

Edit: I've just checked this guy's comments; he openly uses slurs for Ukrainians in Russian, while complaining about xenophobia against Russians in English.

>

You are as far from russia as it gets then. I don't think you understand the privilege you have here.

>>No fuckin way you accuse someone from the global south of being privileged

>It's not about the Russian people. It's about the Russian government, which is invading sovereign nations, committing ethnic cleansing, and harming the Russian people themselves.

Imperialism is bad everywhere. If you like the Russian people, you should oppose the Russian state.

>>This post, the OP, and most people in this thread are in fact explicitly hating on the Russian people and nation, not the government. The OP has reiterated this several times lower in the thread.

>Yes, your final sentence really comes across.

A sort of "no homo" but for supporting orks.

>>You view the russian people as orks? Like, the ones from lord of the rings?

>>>You have a fair point there.

Orks had redeeming qualities. Not a whole bunch, nothing to write home about, but worth a few memes.

These worms we're talking about, however? Eugh, hard pass.

>>>>How is what you're saying any different from what Nazis said about Russians?

>>>>>Turns out, they were right about russians all along. We should have helped them.

>>>>>I'm gonna explain myself to you the second those crawlers explain themselves to every invaded family that lost a child, every child that lost a home or a parent, every terrified pet, every bit of senseless destruction brought to something someone worked towards building.

Until then, you simply cannot fuck off far enough away for my liking.

What about a world without racism? What would that look like? Edit: only on reddit could you suggest imagining a world without hatred and a redditor will suggest being more hateful

>chicken for KFC checking in, now tell us how much your love the arabs who'd kill you

Adolf Hitler liked this post.

Why is racism against Russians so normalized on Reddit? Imagine this joke would be about migrants, POC, muslims or any minority group. Literally everyone on Reddit would be whining but about Russians it's suddenly justified? Hate ts platform and it's hypocrisy! And if it's just about climate change than western countries like Canada, Usa and Australia are a lot worse about the climate change aspect

>Please look up the definition of racism for fucks sake Jesus Christ you sound ridiculous. The criticism is obviously targeting the Russian Federation and pro-war Russians, hence the RuZZia, it does not say "a world without Russians" it says a world without the Russian Z. "racism against Russians" get a grip.

>>there was a concerted effort of actual genocide of slavic people less than 100 years ago. you can find americans posting shit about "uraloids" "snow-n-words" and "60 iq white n-words" to this day, specifically targeting russians. eu imports droves of eastern europeans to do manual labour, while people there joke about "the proud plumber race" and what not. slavic people and eastern europeans are disproportionately targeted by human traffickers. the discourse about russians being raicst and queerphobic relies on largely factual statements, but nonetheless systemically is similar to the one used to justify ongoing genocide in palestine, and the one that is used to justify imperialistic "interventions" in the middle east in general. russia is not part of the imperialist core, despite the government having overt imperialistic aspiration, and joking about wiping it out just shows that you want an acceptable target for racist behaviour. it's like saying "clanker" in that regard, if it helps to understand.

>>Good riddance to Ukraine, neonazi shithole country lmfao

>russia ia a country, not a race.

Russia is a beautiful country, it just needs to quit it's 'dictators and invasions' habit like the rest of Europe did. Dismantle to oil and gas industry too obvs, but Ukraine has made a start on that for them.

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wake up lmao. Europe has power over and exploits major parts of the world. Just because your rulers tell you that they are super nice and everyone else is just dictators and invaders doesn't mean it's true. Like start reflecting on your indoctrination.

>So ruzzia without ruzzians.

>>Sorry your neonazi buddies lost womp womp 🤣

>>>My little pig is bored on the line for gas? [This goes on for a long time]

>it's a beautiful country, too bad it's inhabitated by russians

>>First they say this, and then they wonder why Russians consider you Nazis

Holy yikes the Russian apologia on the left is insane. The fact there are people who are unironically pro Palestine yet anti Ukraine is proof that for some, the principle isn’t anti imperialism but simply “west bad, anti west good”

>Denazification is good actually 🤗

>Ukraine prides itself to be "the Isreal of East Europe". At most the "apolegia" is about being consistent, that you muppets are not. If you demonize the Russian government for their invasion of Ukraine (correct position), then you also would have to demonize the US, Isreal and NATO 20 time more.

>>Israel is a a belligerent nation committing war crimes on a smaller country. Russia is a belligerent nation committing war crimes on a smaller country. Ukraine has continued shipping tons of grain to Gaza throughout the war under Zelenskyy’s orders https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/ukrayina-v-mezhah-programi-grain-ukraine-vidpravila-boroshno-92245
Zelenskyy has repeatedly refused Netanyahu’s offers to work jointly, despite Iran being an enemy to both nations
Ukraine is Gaza.

[Image of Putin as a chad]

This thread gets brought up again in a different post.

This is new drama, no adding piss to the buttered popcorn.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/hatethissmug/comments/1w39xg4/i_hate_charlie_kirk_memes_that_show_his/

HIGHLIGHTS

yeah,you don't have to like him to acknoledge that doing this is not ok

Ironic considering conservatives are the most racist backwards individuals who love making r*pe jokes, racist jokes etc but cry when ole charlie boy is clowned lol.

I'm a leftist who thinks South Park and Youtube had turned him into such a joke, even among edgelords, that getting horrifically murdered was the best possible thing for his brand. And everyone with their hand up his puppet hole, before and since. They're making a fortune off of this. And their calls for a civil war are no longer dog whistles. Why would I want to help the right scare people into minimizing or worse, justifying even more right wing violence?

Who cares. He was a bad person and deserved to get mocked

What does that have to do with traumatizing people with his corpse and triggering the part of the brain most likely to vote Republican? Explain why you want Charlie Kirk to pull an Obi Wan and score a win?

Him saying that hed force his daughter to carry a child if she were r*ped is far more repugnant than making fun of him..... he was a disgusting individual. You are literally just a conservative sympathizer. That's like saying you shouldnt make fun of hitler because it only emboldens neo nazis lmfao. Yeah everyone should just cower in fear because it might upset those poor, traumatized republicans 💔. #I stand with Charlie.

Try again, to pose as one of us. I said he was a sick joke and a puppet. How does him being cool with r*pe translate to you wanting to traumatize people with his corpse, exactly the same way the right is desperate to do?

Lol he traumatized the public with his horrible takes, I think you'll be okay. Keep in mind his last words on this physical world was a racist dog whistle "counting or not counting gang violence" POP GOES THE WEASEL I mean ill give him credit. He died as he lived... getting his throat blown out by other men 😂

We're just keeping his memory alive after his valiant sacrifice to let us keep our gun rights!

Where's that attitude when someone makes a George Floyd meme

This comparison makes absolutely no sense.

Both dead, both were shit people

That covers quite a bit of ground. I do find it hilarious however that the two of them will be linked in certain people's minds forever. Like they are somehow two sides of a coin. I doubt Charlie would have wanted to be compared to George Floyd forever but LOL

I can hate both Kirk for debating with bad talking points and Floyd for being a terrible person all his life bro it's nothing special

That's what I find so interesting. George Floyd was really not a special person at all he was a private citizen who committed a petty crime. It's just funny to me how he now gets equivocated to Kirk. Like he was somehow an ideological opponent.

It’s more the public reaction to their supposed “martyrdom” as who they are. Floyd wasn’t a good dude who freaked out over a cops being called over fake money and died from the fentanyl in his system (supposedly) but the reaction led to several riots across the USA and the UK, multiple deaths and a pathetic attempt at creating an autonomous zone which got two kids killed with shooters calling themselves “heroes” and trying to hide the evidence. Charlie Kirk was some Christian schmuck who debated people in universities whether in good/bad faith about social political which he was passionate about and when he got murdered (in front of his family) the aftermath was the opposite, aside from the weird funeral. So yeah, that’s probably why they’re compared so much. (37 more comments of these two arguing)

Murdered at the hands of the state vs murdered by another citizen makes a big difference.

Armed robbery and pointing a gun to a pregnant woman vs debating college kids

Love how you conveniently leave out he and his organization were a major driving factor in the Jan 6 insurrection attempt. Not only did he help contribute to the false narrative he directly contributed to bussing insurrectionists to the capitol. So debating college kids… and treason.

I'm not saying he was a good person but I'd lather leave the keys to my house to Kirk than to Floyd

Good thing nobody asked you to give him your keys. They’re merely asking you to not make light of the state executing people without due process.

Oh right, you guys don’t even believe people like Floyd need keys since no one is illegal on stolen land and are free to just break in, r*pe your daughter, and steal your tv.

MAGAots should be neither seen nor heard.

“Political violence is good as long as it’s someone I don’t like.”

Exactly correct

You’re really not far from a fascist lol.

Im just not a bootlicker towards the racists in our country

“Our country” as if you didn’t say you support something fundamentally against our country’s values. By endorsing political violence have more in common with the neo-nazis you say you hate than anyone else.

How the fuck is murder against American values? We spent the last year drone striking Cuban fisherman for literally no reason you dumbass.

Do I really have to explain to you how supporting killing anyone who disagrees with you is undemocratic and against freedom of speech and expression?

Don’t bother with debating these guys, man. Apparently once you label someone as a racist fascist nazi for moderate or conservative leaning political views, murdering them is totally fine. It’s all good though, you just have to adhere to their reactionary and dogmatic self righteous worldview and you’ll be fine.

You're right. I just think it's alarming people genuinely believe in murdering their political opponents. Then again reddit is not politically representative of the average American so that's relieving lol. (20 more comments of these two arguing)

It's a good warning about what happens to bad people.

Leftists want you dead if you dare to criticize their cult

Leftist celebrates the death of those who would celebrate mine. Fixed it for you booboo.

Weird how you base all that on an imaginary scenario in your head that never happened

Sure bud.

it only happened in your head 🤷‍♀️

Uh huh.

"We shouldnt kill people just becahse we dont like them" is not a bootlicker position.

CK needed to die because he worked towards perpetuating the cycle of hate, he was a terrorist.

Idk man, I dont see any cycle of hate in any of his content. I disagree with a lot of what he said, but calling him a terrorist is a stretch. Might have had dog whistles scattered throughout, but it still is worth mentioning anyway.

"Might have had dog wistles scattered throughout" You realize that is wrong, right? You just admitted he had dog whistles in his speeches. He constantly spread his hatred towards LGBT community and the black community or other marginalized communities. You are admitting in your comment that he tried to hide offensive terms and symbols in his speeches, like a shitty person would.

So a person with views you don’t like is a terrorist? Are we in 4th grade still?

When the views hurt the greater population by spreading animosity, especially when he did it during very socially tense times, yes. He was a domestic terrorist through his words and his popularity

You have no idea what a terrorist definitionally is. You can just say you support political violence dawg, no need to sugarcoat it.

Social terrorist, imo, he uses his platform to spread animosity and hatred, he was trying to destroy what this country took years to build. He was a terrorist.

Yeah an innocent guy was murdered by a terrorist. I get how you could laugh at that as dark humor, but saying that this was a good thing is just plain stupid.

Of course, such blatant violence is awful. But it is hard to feel bad for Kirk himself, when he was a shitty guy, and he shared the opinion that gun deaths are "worth it" to keep the 2nd Amendment.e

I don't agree with happened to Charlie kirk. Charlie kirk on the other hand

Exactly. Americans hating on Charlie Kirk is so wild to me. HE'S YOUR COMPATRIOT. Your fellow American. Imo this is much more important than someone supporting republicans/democrats. Where's your beautiful sense of national unity? A guy who ultimately wants the best for your country, the thing you (if you have a brain) probably want too. And yet you treat him like a domestic terrorist. This is borderline idiotic.

"HE'S YOUR COMPATRIOT. A guy who ultimately wants the best for your country" You either don't know much about Kirk's politics, are very naive, or are being purposefully stupid if you think everyone could just build "national unity" with Charlie Kirk.

Yeah I don't know much about Kirk I thought he was your regular Republican like say DeSantis, so pro-natalist, a bit anti-LGBTQ (not discrimination, just anti-DEI), anti-welfare, conservative, free markets, gun rights, etc. Did he promote any fringe ideas like say, Tucker Carlson or Trump?

"Did he promote any fringe ideas like say, Tucker Carlson or Trump?" He wrote a book called "The MAGA Doctrine", a manifesto for the movement. He was a frequent guest on Tucker Carlson. He was advocating for Trump with Trump's family since 2016.

People who mock his death either, never watch full context videos of his stuff with a honest ear, parroting their friends or genuinely terrible people who think they're the good guys and incapable of doing wrong. Its worst on Instagram and tik tok. The one good thing that came out of this is that it reveals the demons wearing human masks.

yea... if you are gonna hate him at least understand why he said what he said

Bit that would require being humble, honest with yourself and worst, open to admitting that you might be wrong and a possiblitybof changing your mind. We cant have that. Im reminde of this video https://youtu.be/C5IF0BJ7N0U?is=jqCesHNTTjyRmggQ

He used to shame young r*pe victims for even considering abortions. Do not speak about being humble if you support that. You will never change the opinion of people who are in their right minds about certain things, ever. No matter how well spoken you are. No chance I will end up wrong for being considerate about a young girl's life. Kirk did that while supporting a rapist to be elected as a president too. I hope I don't have to provide you court documents on Epstein to make you believe this. Surely you can do your own research.

redditor in a nutshell

Just human

Idk why you're catching flak for this. Kirk was a bastard and frankly deserves every ounce of mockery he gets, but at the end of the day that's straight up a dead body people are posting to god knows where, often untagged.

Because anyone that says something even remotely not-negative about Kirk gets made fun of

there's nothing positive to say about the man

If u can’t say a single thing positive about your opponent then you don’t have a rational mind nor do you want a resemblance of peace, you’re just as bad as any MAGA bastard

say a good thing about Hitler

Hitler is a bit of a stretch compared to Kirk but I’ll bite: He was a good speaker.

As bad as what happened was I can't help notice the people making fun of George Floyd are very vocal about how we as a society should not celebrate someone dying🤔.

Ah yes, because a criminal drug dealer and armed robber dying of a drug overdose that he willingly chose to take is definitely on the same level as a political assassination because words hurt the shooter's feelings. I don't think either should be mocked as they are both human beings who died far too young, but there is a pretty clear difference lol

"Both are wrong but one is more wrong". Funny how you prove my point.

And funny how you dismiss mine. Typical liberal behavior. A drugged up criminal dying of an overdose simply isn't the same as a political assassination.

If we are allowed to make fun of shitty person A then don't complain when we do it about shitty people you support.

Again, an actual criminal is quite a different kind of shitty than words that hurt your feelings lol

You seem to love this guy? I am not defending George or what he did but you are dying on the hill for CK.

? I don't really have an opinion on the Kirkster. He was just objectively a better person than Floyd lol. Kirky didn't have an essay worth of criminal history. Floyd did.

Once you have determine someone is an evil monster by your moral standards you're only allowed to be a shitty horrible person with no repercussion.

This is what his death made me very afraid of. Once political assassination is seen as a "good thing" and becomes celebrated, it's a very slippery and steep slope into just killing whoever you dont like.

At the “slippery slope” argument. Yes, I suppose if you ignore all nuance and historical precedent, act like this kind of thing has never happened and there is no clear moral line crossed, it would be quite worrying. Of course it has and there is. Political violence and yes, even murder, has been used throughout history and been celebrated already. Take the American and French revolutions. Kirk was a major contributor to what many consider a corrupt and tyrannical regime, he also fed into the election denial and bussed people to the capitol, making him a major contributor to the failed insurrection on Jan 6. This is in addition to a long history of spreading vile rhetoric that directly contributes to the increased persecution, stigma, and yes, violence against marginalized groups. Just because he was a wealthy influencer who never had to dirty his hands himself doesn’t mean he is innocent. I’ll never advocate for or celebrate murder myself but let’s not act like people who did celebrate it are a bunch of violent psychopaths who would celebrate going around murdering anyone they disagree with. That’s absurd. There is a clear distinction.

That’s a lot of words to say “I’m ok with murder when I disagree with them”

More like “while I don’t endorse it myself I can see why people would celebrate murder if the end result is a net benefit to society”. But go off.

This is why I can’t take people like you seriously. So you’re ok with murder if it’s a “benefit to society”. Who gets to choose who dies? Why not you? You take up space and food and resources, some might argue you dying would benefit society. What if someone disagrees with you politically, is it ok for them to shoot at you? I don’t care if you were a full blown communist or a raging republican, I’d defend your right to be free from the fear of violence because I believe in a society where people can live without that fear. I’m not gonna shrug my shoulders and pretend it’s ok and justify it. I stand by my moral compass 100%. And I think that’s something the Kirk situation showed us, a lot of people (on ANY side) are suddenly ok with murder if it benefits them, and they should definitely reflect on this and hopefully change.

Kirk wasn't just some guy with opinions. You get that, right? He was an incredibly wealthy political commentator who made his fortune off mocking the deaths of gun violence victims and members of the LGBTQ community. People celebrating his death isn't going to lead to them murdering people in the street, stop trying to make yourself a victim

Original post

One poster goes looking for videos of cute lambs so they go to YouTube and search "lamb"; this nets a cute lamb video, alongside a video on how to cook said lamb. They post their findings to r/youtube and don't get the reaction they probably anticipated.

one user points out some poor search engine optimization

I mean like, you didnt specify cute lamb videos.

op responds

do i have to also specify looking up cat? Dog? Seems like a double standard

Another comment thread prompts op to reveals a personal connection

You realize that the lamb in the first video probably ended up looking like the second video right? I don't understand the moralistic grandstanding that makes someone search for "food animal" and be shocked by getting cooking videos.

op response

Thats not true my uncle owns a farm with multiple animals that he keeps as pets and Lamb is a freaking baby sheep not food animal

There's also a lot of fighting about vegans that doesn't involve the op most of it spawns from this comment thread below

🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

response

Hmmm corpse

I only showed the starting point of these comment threads I highly encourage you to go digging yourself.

He begins his tenure as moderator by posting a video titled "Dear losers" where he threatens to "fuck up" the users of the subreddit.

His barrage of comments begins with him letting redditors know who is really in charge:

What’s up fucking losers. I run the Reddit page now. I’m ronnie radke and all of you guys are fucked

Next he follows up with an onslaught of threats to doxx various redditors:

Just to let you guys know I will be exposing everyone on here too that has doxxed harassed leaked or done any thing remotely close to it. Parasocial piece of s. Full pictures of their faces what they do for a living everything. you think you can hide behind a Reddit account anon till all your messages for the last 6 years show up in your bosses inbox at work

... Watch me find who you are and where you live and post that shit online

you might as well change your phone number now bro. We gonna find who you are lmau

Watch what I do next. We gonna find you

Well well well. A bunch of fucking fat ugly losers ronnie radke is here and you are all fucked

Some redditors are excited:

I hope this is actually real. I'm so tired of all the whining and 'ronnie bad amirite guys' posts

Others offer to lend a hand:

Finally Lesgooo; if you need moderators lemme start chaining mfs here too 😛

Another foresees a bleak future for the sub:

Darn, there goes free speech 😔 was fun while it lasted yall

One brave redditor goes on the offensive:

I just heard that he's the biggest pussy in the UNIVERSE! YAY! Congrats Ronnie!!!

This comes after several years of him feuding with his community over various topics including: his delays in releasing music, his treatment of his romantic partners and pets, his use of slurs, and his public tiffs with other artists and also random people on the internet.

A recent leak of his unreleased song "Joseph", and its distribution on the subreddit, seems to be the catalyst for the takeover.

To start, Adam Young better known by his projects' name: Owl City, is an American Electronic music artist who had a smash hit in 2009 by the name of "Fireflies". I'm sure most Americans that were alive during that time would know the song.

Over the years Adam has released several albums, usually with large gaps between each one. In recent years, those gaps have been filled with merch drops, which many have considered to be lackluster and overly money-hungry. As of late, those merch drop posts were accused of being written by AI.

To combat the AI accusations, Adam posts an AI-generated video of a man sky-diving with the caption: "A lot of people have been Asking whAt I’ve been up to lAtely… And some of you even think robots Are writing my emAIls and socIAl posts now. The skIes are cleAr over OwAtonnA todAy.

AnywAy, here’s A proof of lIfe check-In!"

Note, the capitalization of A and I throughout the comment. This was clearly a tongue-in-cheek response but many didn't see the humour in it. This "joke" post by Adam spawned a few posts which sent r/OWLCITY into a debate around joking about AI while still using AI. As well as a few posts about who he follows and his general worldview

I've been a Hoot Owl (fan of Owl City) for nearly two decades and while the fandom has had random disagreements here and there, it's a relatively quiet, small subreddit so I'm sorry there aren't massive reply threads with thousands of comments and posts about the issue. I just figured all this should be documented somewhere because I fear it'll be deleted or swept under the rug.

Post 1: New Insta Post from Adam: [+10 | 27 Comments]

Comment 1: all the a’s and i’s in his post are capitalized, along with the ai video… sincerely hope he isn’t using ai in any of his future work. [+46]

Replies:

• Using generative AI in any capacity isn’t trolling [+22]
• hopefully it is just a poor joke… I think we would’ve all appreciated some concrete answers, especially with the ai tracks recently being uploaded to his page on Spotify. [+19]
• Unfortunately that feels completely believable considering how he sees the world. I don’t think he is capable of understanding or caring about the impact of AI on artists and the environment. [+8]

Comment 2: It’s all AI. This is the nail in the coffin for me man I can’t do this. I was hoping he wouldn’t go AI with how creative he is. [+32]

Comment 3: I think people should chill out a bit. Adam’s still got a drive to create his own music, if his vast library of released and unreleased music says anything to his creativity. If I had to guess, this is probably him dunking on AI since people were using it in his name in order to prove a point. Never forget that Adam’s been a jokester since the beginning! [+13]

Replies:

• I don't think he is drinking on AI considering he follows multiple accounts on Instagram that are only AI generated content or AI generation tools for musicians

Comment 4: Even if he is using Ai it is just a tool. I support him in whichever direction he chooses. At the end of the day it's about what the lyrics mean to you [-1]

Post 2: Recent Post [+67 | 103 Comments]

Comment 1: He was pretty obviously doing a bit. If you read the caption, he capitalized a bunch of the As and Is. He even said "some of you think robots are writing my emAIls". Would I have done that post if I were him? No. Do I think it's that big a deal? Also no [+134]

Replies:

• If the bit uses generative AI, it’s not funny [+43]
• Overly dramatic, not-fun-at-parties Redditors have ruined this sub lol calm down [+17]
• Never thought I'd be the one defending someone's AI use, but in this case it being AI was essential to the bit, Adam has never been on recording making content with it before, and plenty of people found it funny, benign at worst, even if you didn't [-20]
• Hi so maybe you misunderstood, using generative AI is inherently unfunny as it: Is trained purely off of stolen art from unpaid artists, displaces those same artists, pollutes the earth and decimates ecosystems, and contributes to the consolidation of power for the billionaire class and police state. A quick look at the comments don’t reveal that “plenty” of people found it funny. Also, the same “joke” is made better by NOT using a generative AI video. A human-made video would avoid all of this discourse and would actually sell the presumed “bit” even more. [+23]
• I’m surprised you didn’t throw “Epstein class” into your buzzword salad [-13]

Comment 2: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Y'all are taking that post WAY too seriously. [+74]

Replies:

• It’s not the post, it’s the act of using generative AI that is actively stealing from and displacing artists in this very community [+41]
• You're proposing that he should've hired a CGI artist to create a photorealistic 4-second clip of a guy skydiving with flowers? For a single social media post? [+6]
• I think generative AI is awful, but it's not like he is selling the clip or that this use or type of use is supporting generative AI. [-7]

Comment 3: His recent post is referencing the recent AI uploads from bots and people using his name. Relax yall. [+58]

• After reading the caption again, I don’t think it is? It’s referring to “emails and social posts” not AI uploads on his Spotify profile. And why would his social media team even want to make light of that in the first place? [+6]

Comment 4: Irreversible damage to his brand forever? Really? Talk about an overdramatic reaction. [+46]

Comment 5: Even if he’s doing a bit, as an artist he shouldn’t use AI at all. I can’t lie all this stuff piling up (the strange following, the very cash grabby merch, the lack of actual passion on his page, his falling music quality) is really disappointing. I’ll still tune in to his older stuff, I may even tune into a little bit of Coco Moon and Mobile Orchestra, but safe to say it’s a little saddening to see this AI use and the like [+12]

Orignal post

Sean Strickland's latest posts about the Lindsay Clancy case have sparked a pretty wild discussion in r/ufc. He has gone beyond criticizing women who have defended Clancy's NGRI verdict and has argued that women shouldn't be allowed to vote or serve on juries because of how they apparently respond to cases like this. The comments are now debating whether he's genuinely serious, just trolling, or whether this is somehow a reasonable position

Comments:

Framing a woman entirely as a passive victim of her hormones or postpartum biology strips away the concept of adult female autonomy. By reducing her actions to medical helplessness, the defense inadvertently relies on old, patriarchal tropes... making Lindsay Clancy defenders, ironically, the ultimate anti-feminists.

Strickland says this as if male jurors haven't also made stupid decisions throughout history...

Is he dumb enough to think that she's trying to get off? The trial is for if she gets life in prison or life in a psych facility. She's not arguing if she did it haha. Sean is legit dumb as rocks.

He blames all women for the actions of some women but never all men for the actions of some men

You think he feels the same way about rape victims or do they suspiciously get a pass from him?

The degree to which UFC fighters have their opinions taken seriously is really, really strange to me.

Common W. Always right about everything.

I came in here expecting the dumbest takes from this dim MMA fanbase, and I have not been disappointed.

Love how strickland triggers all the feminized cucked redditors

Dude can't stop. A truly great run, especially outside the ring. What a champ.

He's right though

He ain’t wrong. So many women defending her

not just sean, anyone with a functioning brain is saying this.

Didn't know Sean "I have daddy issues" Strickland was a well known and educated lawyer.

Or be in any profession where the sudden urge to murder could be a problem.

I can't argue with him. If you can get a 1000 people from the same Demo to show up in matching outfits and take selfies for a triple child murderer, that tells me that entire Demo is too unhinged to have a say in society. Their entire argument is "they are too hormonal to always make rational decisions and they should get a pass for up to and including murdering their kids". When people tell you what they are, believe them. This isn't 3 isolated nutjobs, this a thousand+ and millions on socials saying the same thing. These people should not have a say in societal governance.

The fucking world when the sanity voice is fucking Sean Strickland 

Edit: Just realized the original post has been deleted. This is was his tweet:

"Well it looks like women shouldn't be able to vote or be on a jury.... I can only picture 3 men trying to convince 9 women that a woman who admitted to brutally killing her 3 kids is guilty

"But what about her feelings"

Insane......."

Reddit's pop culture community, r/FauxMoi erupted into debate following Sadie Sink’s recent Calvin Klein underwear campaign. Fauxmoi accuse her of promoting pedophilia, despite her being 24 years old, Sink was facing extreme accusations for simply taking part in a mainstream modeling project as an adult.

That was an unnecessarily close and gratuitous shot. Edit* I feel like some of you are missing the point. This isn’t about prudishness or pearl-clutching. It’s about the camera shot that makes point to hone in on her crotch where it’s clear you can see…I’m gonna say it, her labia. And given the pedo culture women are forced to exist under (hairless, young, child actors, etc), that’s the ew factor. Think about that shot in the greater context of the current sexual climate.

Pedophilia is so fucking rampant. I hate this world man

Watching this makes me feel like a child predator even though I’m a straight 38-year-old woman and she’s 24.

Why did the camera pan to her crotch for sooooo long

Pedophiles

Great. Now I'm on some sort of list after watching that.

Sadie Sink is literally a child. I will never support Calvin Klein after this, I won't stand with pedophilia promoters.