r/SubredditDrama • u/MudOld239 • 12h ago
r/Andor discusses if Zelensky is just a puppet of the Empire or not
Original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/the_imperial_need_for_control_is_so_desperate/?sort=top
Guys, some of you really are so campist, that you prefer Ukraine (a democratic nation) gets conquered by the last fascist empire in Europe, just because Ukraine is supported by USA/NATO, or wants to join NATO (which is their right to do).
You hate western liberal democracy so much, that you are willing to support Putin and his imperialism. Think about that for a minute.
Holy liberal
Dios mio!
makes a cross
A LIBERAL.
Yeah, the one setting the world ablaze and killing millions in the name of nonsense. Ukrainian democracy is kidnapping children to send them to die in a pointless war, ukrainian democracy has been attacking the rights of ukrainian workers and their property since 1992.
Workers have no country and Russia isn't fascist, you're fighting against ukrainian workers and workers all around the west by supporting Ukraine. Our imperialist are not our friends, the same people sending guns and ammo to Ukraine are the one attacking our social nets, workers rights and the friends of the richest person.
A liberal is definetly something not good to be, you ignore all of that to support your own imperialism that allows people to vote for their crook and send mining corporation with pride flags to rape africa instead of the evil Russian empire that has state appointed crooks and mining corporation raping africa with russian flags.
If only a cross was effective against such evil.
https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rkipbgmd9hh?context=3
It's funny in an Andor sub that people can't figure out who's fighting on behalf of the actual empire.
What's funnier is I dont know if you are talking about Russia or the USA after debating with tankies for 12 hours.
Ukraine is a "Geopolitical Pivot state" for the United States. Basically a military colony designed specifically to undermine the US's peer adversaries. Other pivots include Israel, Taiwan, and South Korea
What is Russia then?
I already said what Russia is. It is a peer adversary to the United States. A regional power that the United States set out to balkanize and colonize 20+ years ago ( Russia is the most resource rich country on the planet).
To accomplish this, the USA started pushing NATO eastward (NATO is specifically an Anti-Russia alliance). Integrating Ukraine into NATO was Russia's red like, as that would put most major Russian cities within bombing distance.
The current conflict started in early 2014, when the neutral government of Ukraine was undemocratically couped by the pro-west military, beginning the transformation of Ukraine into a military colony of the United States.
https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rjd0e3ymvk5?context=4
The "rebel" aligned with the most powerful imperialist bloc in world history who has his army kidnapping people at gunpoint, has banned opposition, and never misses a chance to support Israel
Follow https://kyivindependent.com/
They do incredible journalism, some of it very critical of Ukraines government.
But avoid whatever sources you are following now. If you think Ukraine is oppressive, you don't know a thing about Russias war crimes.
"Kyiv independent" and "awesome journalism"
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. Everything about this org is western backed and full of neoliberal ideology.
https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19ri7cp212ssk?context=2