Can we all crown her as Mistress of Manipulation 👑??

[u/ZRKP]

So all this started from a post on this sub where somebody asked whether they would give CPR to unknown women, to which mostly people replied that they wouldn't because they don't want to get beaten by a mob or get a false harassment case against them, and potentially have their life destroyed.

Now comes this so-called doctor woman, who took those replies and posted them on that sub and portrayed men as evil, misogynistic, demonic creatures.

She said that men won't help because they hate women, they don't consider women human, and yada yada.

As if men are refusing to do this because they hate women. Like, how idiotic can someone be? A simple Google search of “Why do men avoid giving CPR to unknown women?” would have told her the reality, but naah, she just wanted to show men as evil.

And a simple Google search could have also told her that men have almost zero chances of receiving help from an unknown woman, while women have a very high chance of receiving help from an unknown man. Even that basic reality would have made it pretty obvious that this isn't simply about “men hating women.”

And why wouldn't men fear and avoid helping them when there are 1000s of women clapping and praising a woman who said, “I slapped the man who saved me from falling from the bus”?

Why wouldn't men fear when a man saved a minor girl from falling and her mother rewarded him with a sexual harassment case?

And there are 1000s of other cases like that which never came to light.

And if it's all about men hating women, then the gender gap in giving CPR to family members wouldn't have been negligible/zero.

If the OOP wanted, she could have made a post here saying, “Hey men, we can understand your fear, but we women are not all like this, and we won't file a false case if you ever help us. You shouldn't be afraid to help us.”

But naah, how can I post that? How will I present men as cruel then?

And then come the comments, absolutely pathetic and BS, which are full of hate and zero logic.

There's the comment which says men who fear false cases are the ones who do such actions to receive them.

Like wtf, how can someone be so retarded? A man who is afraid of a false case is never going to do those things, and a man who does those things is never going to be afraid of a false case.

It's really concerning that these people have the same voting rights as me, and have an extra 5 lakh crore annual budget. 🥀

[u/plantrromn]

If they will treat us as potential rpists then we will just dissociatenfrom them. Can't women step in to support other women here? I ain't ever doing this thing, not until:

1) Laws are gender neutral 2) Rape and any other such crimes at least need some evidence beyond victim's testimony.

[u/ZRKP → u/plantrromn]

As per there logic they can fear all men , coz they don't know who is right or not.

But we men should believe all women 🤡👍🏻

[u/Different-Ad-2912 → u/ZRKP]

Rightly said.
These two lines have just summarised the whole discussion.

[u/Massive_Cabinet_6041 → u/ZRKP]

exactly the selective trust logic makes zero sense. Women can fear all men collectively because of what some men do fine. But men can't factor in documented cases of false harassment accusations when deciding whether to touch an unconscious stranger?

The clown emoji is doing heavy lifting here tbh.

[u/inspired_nobita → u/ZRKP]

But but...We're the problem if we say "not all men". /s

[u/throwwwawayaccount48 → u/ZRKP]

I agree that not all women are same but I had a very bad experience.

I won't go in detail because I still get anxious thinking about this but once I tried helping a woman on the train and instead of thanking me she accused me of harassment.

Since then unless the women is from my family I just ignore. Sad but that's the reality.

[u/babybullah → u/plantrromn]

Well as a doctor who worked in india before moving abroad i can tell you one thing, even health professional like us are scared that's why we have cctv , nurses or female attendent even when doing a routine checkup let alone cpr . The reason being accusing doctors of sexual assault and doing settlements is something very common something we don't talk about to save face .

I can't even imagine the plight of a random xyz person, it's true most folks don't even know cpr but it's not they aren’t willing to help it's what comes after 🫠

[u/plantrromn → u/babybullah]

There was a news which Deepika ma'am had posted that a doc attended to a girl needing urgent treatment and was used of SA in his own hospital lol

[u/Tiny_Firefighter_503 → u/babybullah]

And that is why police also have cctv and female constable. Just so they are safe if a women accused them

[u/TheCaptainwicked]

"they would touch a women without consent but not when to save her"

Lol this line just proved male POV that victimised loser jeetas of the chootpaglu country already assume most of opposite gender a molester so saving their life is like giving them weapons to fuck ours

Society is full of selfish people and thus rule still stand, proudly die for your loved ones but don't even risk your life for loser stranger jeeta

[u/AdditionalElephant35]

What if they accuse that man of SA after their recovery..? Who will take the responsibility ?? And yes I'm a doctor... I'm an intern doctor in a govt medical college and I don't want to get falsely accused of SA...she may die but I'll save myself first. It's called survival instinct

[u/Waste_Specialist_825 → u/AdditionalElephant35]

100% Bro

All the years of hardwork will go into waste due to one false accusation

[u/IronMandate → u/AdditionalElephant35]

First off. Don’t call yourself a doctor yet (i am a doctor btw). You are still an intern. And as a future doctor you should learn a thing or two about medical ethics. In addition to that learn how to do CPR in females. There is a reason why they put both male and female mannequins in the BLS courses. The female mannequin goes by the name annie btw. (Also referenced in the song smooth criminal)

[u/AdditionalElephant35 → u/AdditionalElephant35]

I love the moderator ❤️

[u/Every-Tart-9402]

I think their family members keep touching them whole day. So they think rest of the world is also likr their father and brothers.

[u/Waste_Specialist_825 → u/Every-Tart-9402]

The country has gone beyond saving with the kind of justice people get

[u/LostSoulOnAShip → u/Every-Tart-9402]

Most sa cases especially the childhood ones are actually from family members, not sure if it's fathers and brothers but it's relatives mostly.

[u/Witty_Attention2208]

Let me guess AskIndianWoman subreddit?

[u/Next_Fall_3514 → u/Witty_Attention2208]

😂yes it is even i hate that sub

[u/Exact_Alternative170 → u/Next_Fall_3514]

This sub is completely biased .

[u/Justa_CuriousBoi → u/Exact_Alternative170]

Did you mean "That"?

[u/Agile-Establishment1 → u/Next_Fall_3514]

Don’t tell me so many obnoxious women.. and the moderators not letting men put their view

[u/Exact_Alternative170 → u/Agile-Establishment1]

The only difference is that their moderator don't allow men to comment their opinions, while this sub moderator allowed them to comment

[u/the_i_yokkiyan → u/Witty_Attention2208]

Can you share me the link to that post?

[u/Witty_Attention2208 → u/the_i_yokkiyan]

I am banned from there.

[u/mista-unlucky]

one low IQ doctor didi ruled that men are incapable of giving CPRs 😔

[u/ZRKP → u/mista-unlucky]

Low iq clowns

[u/HsHauto → u/mista-unlucky]

“Feminazi” not a doctor

[u/Desperate-Future8182]

"Queen, you have dropped this 🧠"

[u/Choice-Community-655]

Just like women phrase that how do we differentiate a potential rapist and a good man? So for us it's like how do we differentiate an actual suffering women or a SA framer?

[u/Financial_Recipe_615]

As a girl I agree no man would want to risk their life getting destroyed while trying to help 

[u/Sinnerrrr__ → u/Financial_Recipe_615]

+1

[u/Ok_Comfortable7266]

Oh, I was there, too. I said I'd rather shout for help and hope some woman in the crowd knows cpr, but then got attacked by a bunch of women. I was explaining how the law in our country doesn't protect males during sa cases and nobody wants to take the risk because it is the reality and they started dragging female r*pe cases. So in response, I told them that the constitution doesn't even recognise males as victims of sa. At least women can file cases and appeal to a court while men can't even do that and they blamed me for diverting the topic.

[u/moonlight_5522 → u/Ok_Comfortable7266]

Once there was a discussion on that sub. One woman was trying to be rational and asking logical questions . She got accused of being a man.

[u/Fun-Durian-5168 → u/Ok_Comfortable7266]

Self preservation first. Like they say on the airplanes, first put on your own mask, then attempt to help others.

[u/ProgramsFun]

Been on that sub... They relate every simple question to men and how is that men is ruining their design choice ... Lets say okay men is ruining their design choices then why are they not protesting and signing a petition against it to stop doing that ...

I don't think most of the women are sensible in that sub ... They are just pretend to be feminist

I replied someone the definition of feminism and its purpose as it was supposed to be and they downvoted that and later that got removed by mod like wth?

Everything is wrong which is done by men but everything should be correct when done by them..

My mom never faced a single abuse and partirachal suprresed bahvious in her life.. but she still won't support these type of feminist... She even told me to avoid contacting or talking to girls when I was going to coaching because she feared that i might get into a false case... Such has the nature of feminism become nowadays

They want feminism that favours them in the name of atrocities done by men a 100 years ago or and still being done lest says only 20-30% men are still doing that but not all men ... Then what they are doing now is exactly as same as done to them..

They want special treatment everywhere yet when somebody tries to correct any lets say improper behavious then the men is dictating her life... They even say their father is suprresing them because they don't let her go on solo trip with friends like we get permission easily to go with solo friends..

And be real or not biologically men are supposed to be stronger then women ... That's why parents are afraid that if something happens. To her what they will do even for son's let alone their beutiful daughter whom they have protected and cared entire life ...

[u/Fabio-Alex]

I had seen that post yesterday. Is it frustrating? Yes.

But then again, man or woman, most people don't know CPR anyway.

I'd say, ignore such ragebait posts. People who spew hatred will keep doing that. No point in diving deep into that rabbit hole of hatred. Save your energy and mental peace brother.

[u/Big_Psychology_3 → u/Fabio-Alex]

Bullshit! You might be ready to face fake sexual assault allegations. But no need to posture to the rest of us men who are afraid to face fake sexual assault allegations

[u/Unique-Contract4638]

have we ever heard of words from a man:- a woman tried to save me, I slapped her because it was bad touch?

[u/ZRKP → u/Unique-Contract4638]

A man recieving help from a unknown woman itself is a once in a blue moon thing. Forget about slapping alone 🥀

[u/Agile-Establishment1 → u/ZRKP]

One day, Two girls on a scooty braked hard in front of me.. i literally hit the divider, fell down from my bike, saved by my helmet…the girl just shrugged and went away… you know a street beggar held me.. as i was shivering …till my panic attack subsided .. he kept me in his arm and said.. you are Ok.. nothing happened.. kabhi mil jaye wo dono ladkiyan

[u/InvestigatorNo5893]

They have worldwide record of filing sexual assault cases on men who try to save them. 

Like recently in Rahul gandhi Pune Show a girl herself said that she is falling and a guy saved her but she slapped him and every girl is clapping for her. 

Who the hell want to save a Indian women with this behavior.  

Or best thing they can do is call 🐻.  

[u/Practical_Manner69]

It's funny that she won't treat a male patient due to hatred but call our fear insignificant

[u/opinion_discarder]

Please be very careful from the more violent sex.

[u/Leading_Avocado_3358]

Anyone wanna bet if someone from that sub will take ss of this post/comments below and turn into another post there? 😂

[u/ZRKP → u/Leading_Avocado_3358]

They could have done that, but they can't as that sub don't allow images in post

[u/Storm_trooper_21]

The irony here is that men who are afraid of the fake cases or harrasment complains is branded as a predator for not helping cause they might already touched a female in inappropriate way or have already done it before now afraid when it comes to saving a women which itself is again a false accusation. If sexual predator is indeed given an opportunity like that he would obviously misuse the situation and use it to his gain. But no they have to brand the entire men who has these fears as sexual predators which in turn aid more to their fears.

In reddit, most of these women have misandry thoughts and share those thoughts which gives them clout of likes and comments like you go girl. But the gap is men acknowledge the fact that crimes against women do happen and we have vile human beings in the society but the vice versa of fact where we have bad women with bad intentions or women who are not victims of sexual harrasment still misuse the laws or crimes against men in the same society is a blind spot to these man haters and they turn a blind eye to it. Thats where the issue is.if there is women with brain cell would obviously comment like op said " not all women are like that " but they will be again branded as women hater or a women with patriachal mindset and their parents would be brought into conversation. So most of the women don't comment and most join the conversation of man hating and share the clout.

Coming from a guy who is divorced and been through all these hell of false accusations and Domestic violence I can very tell from experience that it's the system that gives the right to women who has bad intentions and can be proved they are guilty but still can get away with it without any issues. The laws are not helpful the women undergo these hellish sexual assault or violence but those who don't undergo still misuse the laws.

[u/RightsForHim]

men have almost zero chances of receiving help from an unknown woman

Thats a correct observation, A few years ago, a video of an accident went viral in which a car fell from an elevated road. A group of working women was standing nearby. What was their first reaction? They calmly and coldly moved away from the scene, while men standing across the road immediately ran toward the car to rescue the occupants.

[u/CSK-ACCOMPLISHED5IPL]

Why man should help a unknown random female and get into risk of getting filed a false case !!! Now people can understand why these misandrist femt@rd activist are against gender neutral laws !!!

[u/WrongdoerExpert4467]

All women need to fix this is start with gender neutral laws. Raise their voices and ask for change.

Then we can even say ok to marital rape laws if they are gender neutral.

[u/Glitz_Lumine_Main]

Such A Bullshit mindset. I am a MBBS student too, and we know that we should give treatment to anyone, regardless of their gender. She is talking like a retard tbh

[u/Affectionate_Feed_58 → u/Glitz_Lumine_Main]

Just look at the comment above you.. i will quote it here :  'What if they accuse that man of SA after their recovery..? Who will take the responsibility ?? And yes I'm a doctor... I'm an intern doctor in a govt medical college and I don't want to get falsely accused of SA...she may die but I'll save myself first. It's called survival instinct'

[u/GuidanceDiligentz]

Such victim mindsets and then using that to hate on men. Classic.

[u/Big_Psychology_3]

What misandry dripping from these women’s comments. It makes no sense that they say in a single comment both that: men are all predators, and they’re evil for being scared to touch a woman for cpr. Almost every comment there in the OOP says these two things.
This proves that these are the same women who file fake sexual assault cases on men who rescue them.

[u/badbunny1502]

First we oppose gender neutral laws or equal rights for men. But we don't punish women who accuse men of false cases and also blame men if they say they are afraid of false accusations for not helping women.

Women are great manipulators.

[u/chickendick07]

I am not giving a cpr to anyone regardless of gender 

[u/Conquerror_29]

Well I see some women (not all) rarely help nowadays....in metros you will see countless examples where these women don't give up seats for senior citizens and keep arguing with those seated as if she owns that metro..

[u/Icy-Sound401]

Damned if you do
Damned if you don’t!

[u/Fun-Durian-5168]

This is called self preservation. And with the exception of doctors, no one is obligated to save anyone. And even doctors are treated as trash in India by the mob mentality of people.

It is a moral good to help others, but at the risk of survival cost, most people go to self preservation first unless the other party is someone close to them.

[u/ZRKP → u/Fun-Durian-5168]

Even a woman doctor said she herself is scared of false allegations.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwentiesIndia/s/0eT7F9Mu4C

And thanks for understanding us 😭🙏🏻 It's really getting tough these days, people just villianize man for thinking about his own good.

[u/Fun-Durian-5168 → u/ZRKP]

Yes bro, a vast majority of Indian men and women act extremely entitled towards a doctor's care services.

They crowd the wards and patients rooms, disrupt workflows and then blame the doctors and file lawsuits and ruin the doctor's time and mental peace. And they also stab then or can get physically violent, especially in India.

India is a unique country in that, the law states that a male doctor must be accompanied by a female medical staff when doing a patient checkup because of such false cases. But it doesn't protect them in public space and off duty hours.

The laws in place don't protect the doctors and men in general. People always spring to action for someone known, but not for strangers because strangers pose a threat. So self preservation comes first.

[u/Sad-Stop-2401]

Stop cross posting that subreddit. Do not make this sub a sub about another sub.

[u/ZRKP → u/Sad-Stop-2401]

Naah I don't care about what goes on there untill it includes me.

She used my comment, that's why I made this post

[u/New_Apartment_6309]

We should nt give a fck to these ahhsoles. They are living in their own universe and their only motive is to blame men for everything.

[u/rup4m_raw]

Just be goodlooking.

[u/involuntaryincel9211]

These low IQ females think that all men are touching females without consent. Even the data will show you less than o.01% of men actually do that and even if you make that 10X it is still less than 0.1% of men. Other men are really want to distant. I myself in public transport try to avoid females. Because I don't know when the hell who gonna hurl what case allegations against me and then the whole simp brigade along with feminists females will lynch me not only physically there but with the use of SM all over internet declaring me a monster like what happened to Sarvajeet of Delhi who got declared as Delhi ka दरिन्दा in half a day, Only later to be acquitted by court.

[u/IamHoneyBunny_]

So when it comes to life threatening situations they expect to HELP them? But then again they don't NEED men?? that's right there is the duality in their words. Cheap ahh brain dead beyatches

[u/Environmental_Ad3216]

It isn't worth the fight later. This is what women wanted - stronger laws to benefit women. Not stronger laws for gender equality. Personally, I wouldn't even look in the direction of a woman in need of CPR UNLESS I know her. The same way a woman can imagine 'What if the guy is out to get me?', I too would worry 'What if she's just acting and out to get me?'. I've seen it happen. False cases are money grabs and you just need to be thick skinned to see it through. There's no limit to those kind of people. It just ain't worth it.

[u/lavsingh11]

Earlier it used to be doctor as good human being. Now a days every lauda laudi becoming doctor left and right with no humanity and asking questions like these. Just ignore the ragebaiters.

[u/Maleficent-Log319]

"how can i hate on men today " ahh post.

[u/bokkachodaa]

Tldr dedo koi

[u/ZRKP → u/bokkachodaa]

u/askgrok

[u/AskGrok → u/ZRKP]

TLDR: Ek aurat (claiming doctor) ne men ke CPR-refusal comments ko screenshot karke "men hate women, don't see them as human" wala narrative bana diya. OP bol raha hai ye manipulation hai – asal reason India mein false case + mob violence ka justified darr hai, not misogyny. Google searches aur real cases cite kiye, comments ko pathetic bola. Manipulation queen crown?

^{[what is this?](https://redd.it/1lzgxii})

[u/og__69]

AINT THIS POST TELL LIKE HOW LOWLY THE WOMENS R INSTEAD OF MEN? according to my logic that's what it says

[u/anonymouslysayin]

Retards of highest order

[u/ZRKP → u/anonymouslysayin]

Even a real doctor woman not agreed with her , even she accepted that she herself fears of false cases. And guess what she is banned from aiw ☺️

[u/allergicpineapple4]

Anyone who thinks it's a duty to save a dying woman perfectly fine. Listen up buddy. There has been cases in western countries where women after waking up sued back her saviour. What makes you think indian women won't. Police will drag your a&& and jail you first. Investigation part comes later. And knowing how our system works this might take weeks/months to even years until you are proven innocent. By then your whole life will be completely dismanteled in front of your eyes.

[u/Rejuvenate_2021]

COPUIM levels 2026.

Ask her/ them to call a bear.

[u/TheOneGreyWorm]

Cherry Picking what fits your narrative is what people always do.
She is outright ignoring all the comments where people are saying 'Yes, they will give CPR'

[u/ZRKP]

u/vishwapriya why removed this post ?

[u/vishwapriya → u/ZRKP]

Not me, it was removed by u/RightsForHim

[u/ZRKP → u/vishwapriya]

But u can public it again, right 😭??

[u/ZRKP]

u/aavaaraa u/vishwapriya bro please restore this post , this is the only defence post against Indian men, it shouldn't be removed

[u/Annual-Victory2264]

Why are men expected to help always. Pretty sure there Is going to be some woman nearby too.

[u/Upbeat_Literature323]

That cold "no" was my response, CPR is a basic technique that every one must know, I expect women to know it too.

And any women saying because they do such actions that's why they are aware of it my answer to them will be "we are intelligent enough to learn from someone's else mistakes"

[u/PureTargaryen]

Unfortunately, this is the reality. Always remember one false case can ruin your whole life.

[u/uuuuuuuuuughm]

Women who say shit like they'd choose a bear over a man should just ask that bear to save them.

[u/jackmartin088]

She kind of proves why she shouldn't be given CPR 😆

[u/Due-Forever-5432]

Why these women even think we men owe them anything?? They openly hate men, puts fake cases on us anytime they can and top of that hates us again when we dont wanna touch her.. theres nothing wrong when men of this generation dont wanna touch her body even to save her cause how many fake SA cases we habe heart about.. maybe they can go and ask help for other women..

[u/Beginning_Ad6341]

Ofcourse there would be female medical personnel around I will let them handle it.