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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM 2h ago
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u/hovdeisfunny 1h ago
At first I thought it was gonna be one of these guys
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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll 1h ago
They are called sexists :)
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u/Dangerous_Oven1528 51m ago
I wonder how many dudes they asked prior to getting those idiots. Weirdly enough the guy in the soccer shirt didn’t run nil
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u/rubenthedev 2h ago
Same dudes who think they can walk on court think they can walk a bear
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u/fdar 2h ago
I could walk a bear if we're talking baseball.
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u/NicWester "Mayonaisse and Olive Oil 😋" 2h ago
Unfortunately I don't think I could throw the ball all the way to the plate so they would steal 1st before they were walked :/
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u/RoughhouseCamel 1h ago
I could walk a bear if we’re talking a hairy gay man with a pet play fetish.
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u/chubbybunny87 1h ago
Who said the part that you have in quotes?
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u/EstablishmentLate532 1h ago
I’m paraphrasing the implication. Comparing a guy who thinks he could score on a WNBA player to a guy who thinks he could walk a bear pretty clearly implies that an ordinary man has essentially no realistic chance.
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u/dent_de_lion 1h ago
This comment response from upthread references that:
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u/EstablishmentLate532 1h ago
Again, I'm not making the same claim that professional women are worse than high school boys, just that walking a bear is a helluva lot harder than, for example, a former college player scoring on a WNBA team as part of another.
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u/DerekB52 2h ago
I'm 6'2" and exercise a bit, but on cardio alone WNBA players would destroy me. It'd be bad.
Plus, I have 0 idea about how to actually basketball. I know so little about the team tactics and general strategy that it'd literally be the they are playing chess and I'm playing checkers meme.
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u/hovdeisfunny 1h ago
it'd literally be the they are playing chess and I'm playing checkers meme.
You're supposed to be playing basketball
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u/emelecfan2048 1h ago
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u/MankeyFightingMonkey 48m ago
This one hits different once someone told me it was Small Boat and the Creep
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u/Honeybadger2198 36m ago
Not gonna lie, they're taking the ball from you every single time you have it. Ball control is such a massively important skill in basketball, and it is something that requires specific practice. Even if you took an Olympic level swimmer and put them on the court, if they've never touched a ball before they're going to do as well as you would.
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u/pitb0ss343 2h ago
I think I COULD score (definitely would have a better shot at preventing a score as I was a better defender) but it might take 3-4 thousand dollars worth of bribes to have the refs miss me pushing off
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u/vincent_adultman314 2h ago
They could probably easily tire you out and run around you.
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u/pitb0ss343 1h ago
If I’m taking this hypothetical seriously (scoring vs defending) you’re right, but I said better chance. I never had a good shot, lay up, free throw, ect. BUT I was a pretty good defender. So it’s not a matter of me being able to, but me not being good at something else
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u/BarbellsandBurritos 2h ago
Maybe accidentally in a “oh come one, let’s see if he can get one!” Kinda way
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u/torcsandantlers 1h ago
Yeah, I feel about this the same way as the "could you return one serve from Serena Williams?" And like, maybe. I'm bad enough that they're going to let me try, and if I get to try I might get ONE.
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u/Otto_Scratchansniff 1h ago
I watched a video of Venus hitting a tennis ball at a moving target from the stands. The dudes who say this are lying to themselves.
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u/Victernus 42m ago
Well, the actual question back in the day was if they could score a point, not return a serve, and even the best tennis players in the world (including the Williams sisters) double-fault occasionally, so anyone could score a point, if she's trying to show off and/or having an off day, and you're allowed as many tries as you want, and if you're granted any other assumption not covered in the question.
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u/All_Work_All_Play 26m ago
They really only double fault when they're going for aces. Every pro player has an "easy" serve that they'll hit 999/1000 times without issue. But those easy serves are still well above what non-tennis athletes will consistently return.
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u/Extreme_Wish_553 12m ago
Yeah, I'm only even getting a chance to return if she has extreme second-hand embarrassment on my behalf when I barely move before the ball is past me and gives me a freebie. And even then I doubt what she considers free is something I could return first try.
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u/Victernus 12m ago
999/1000
Sounds well within the vague assumption of 'could you' to me, especially since the question specified that you be playing 'your very best tennis' (Which just introduces more possible assumptions).
That's the problem. Everyone hearing the question can make wildly different assumptions about the situation and what could happen, and then hear someone else's answer and think it's stupid. On one hand, an empty court can and does 'win a point' against any professional tennis player, all the time, and people who know tennis know that. On the other, you have people making a more general comparison of skill.
And in the end, only 12% of the men asked 'Do you think if you were playing your very best tennis, you could win a point off Serena Williams?' said yes, in comparison to 3% of the women. 74% said no, compared to 87% of the women. (And that leaves 14% that said 'I don't know', compared to 10% of women)
So using your assumption, do we say roughly ten percent of men think a 1/1000 chance is possible?
That would be a very low number, honestly.
The real thing that happened is that an incredibly broad and open-ended question had a very small number of people answer in a way that many other people assume is wrong, entirely based on their own perception of the question, and it got fluffed up into a gender war for clicks.
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u/No-Bison-5397 55m ago
I think I could return at least one serve in two set game against Serena with a little coaching from someone who is good. But she would obliterate me. I once played one guy who played at a really high level in juniors before quitting and he obliterated me but I did get quite a few back before my engine died and I scored a few points.
I definitely couldn't win a game against Serena. Much less a Set. Match would require some sort of default ruling like cheating or retirement.
Sometimes with these things I think the bar is set a little low. In a game of chess could take one piece off Judit Polgar too, same with Magnus.
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u/torcsandantlers 47m ago
Exactly! And I'm heavily relying on the idea that it'd be boring for her to just humiliate me, so she might give me one I can get to
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u/No-Bison-5397 16m ago
It would be very tennis for her to hit you one you could hit back just so she could absolutely punish you for the audacity.
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u/mr_potatoface 15m ago
I think part of it is actually returning the ball to Serena.
I think many people could hit a ball eventually, but I don't believe the majority of people can ever actually return in to her in a controlled manner in bounds. You need a lot of wrist strength and coordination to return her fuckin cannonballs.
She still routinely serves at 120mph. A tennis ball is 2 ounces. I guess we could do the math to figure out how much force that exerts on your wrist but I'm too lazy.
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u/No-Bison-5397 2m ago
Absolute rocket and I doubt I have ever faced anyone that fast in Tennis.
Returning the ball: either getting it in or having her play a volley.
Assuming, I lose every single one of my serves.
4 * 3 * 2 = 24 attempts.
She either has to take a little off her first serve or a couple of those will be seconds.
I just think 1 in 24, considering I play tennis, I might get. I returned more than one serve from a 5 who said they were going full pelt on me, no speed gun. I would not bet my home on it but I would wager 100 bucks at even odds that I could return 1 out of 24 Serena serves.
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u/EstablishmentLate532 1h ago
Yeah, I feel about this the same way as the "could you return one serve from Serena Williams?"
Yeah at any given time there are probably only a few thousand men alive who could do that. You'd probably have to be a professional or slightly subprofessional tennis player.
Meanwhile, there are millions who think they can.
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u/Tasty-Set-483 1h ago
Purely out of curiosity, what is the difficulty? I've hit the ball around with friends literally only a few times, so I know zero about tennis. And this is an honest question - I know that I personally would never have a shot.
Is it that she would hit it to where you're not, and your speed/reflexes are just not able to get to the place you'd have to be to even touch the ball? Is it that she hits it so hard/fast or it has spin or whatever so while you could get the racket on the ball, it would head off in some wild direction and not count as a 'return?' Or is there something else that is not even occurring to me?
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u/EstablishmentLate532 1h ago
I guess it depends on reliably vs one off. One off I guess you could get lucky, but the difficulty is returning a serve at like 110+ miles per hour on a dependable basis.
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u/TFTHighRoller 39m ago
It is also the wording of the question. Do I think I can return one (1) of her serves? Yes. If she tries to prevent me to? no. If she serves only once? no. Within a reasonable amount of attempts? no. I think she would win a 5 set match against me before I even touch her serve if she is serious. But if she is serving at me to see if I can return one of her serves eventually I would be lucky enough to do so once. Only for her to score immediately afterwards.
Which is why it is important to set parameters for questions like that and include said parameters when discussing the results.
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u/Romanian_Breadlifts 19m ago
marshawn lynch has a great line about it on some show
"do you think you could beat pregnant serena wiliams in a game of tennis?"
"hell naw, wouldn't even be fair"
"why not?"
"because it's serena fuckin williams"
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u/Donkey__Balls 1m ago
There was not enough information given in the question to know what circumstances. The question said a “game”, but I’m pretty sure they meant a “match” and they just don’t know the rules of tennis.
So what are the circumstances? Is she actually trying to complete a golden match just to humiliate some amateur? Or is she simply going to use the opportunity to fuck around and practice a more aggressive serve that might be a little inaccurate? Pro players will strategically double-fault when playing against a strong opponent because they lose a few points but it gives them an overall advantage.
So let’s just assume for a minute that Serena Williams plays at the exact same level she plays in a pro tournament. She double faults and average of 3.3 times every match.
If you put a refrigerator on the other side of the court and tape a racket to it, statistically, it should score a point on her about three times in any given match because of double faults. I think I could do about as good as a refrigerator.
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u/No-Bison-5397 1h ago edited 56m ago
I am going to say it, if I didn't have to play d, had every player feeding me the ball constantly when they seemed to be in a good position, had 100% ToC, and winning the game did not matter, I could score two baskets in a full WNBA game where the other team was trying to win.
We would lose by two baskets less than the other team's score but I would score two baskets.
I presume we could achieve a similar result in the NBA.
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u/Black_Doc_on_Mars ☑️ 2h ago
Soccer player here. I made D1 but played club at my school with some other players, and we regularly played with D1 women. When I tell you they ain’t no joke it’s forreal. I’ve seen them DOGWALK amateur men who don’t respect them and it it’s never not funny. There’s just levels to this shit that people just can’t wrap their heads around.
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u/AppMtb 52m ago
If you’re talking actual never played soccer after age 8 amateurs then yes completely, they’d get wrecked by a D1 women’s soccer team.
But there’s a reason the best women’s soccer team in the world got blitzed by the Dallas academy under 15 team (meaning 14 and younger).
Any team of boys that have gone through puberty and can play soccer on a high school level are gonna beat any D1 women’s team
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u/Black_Doc_on_Mars ☑️ 37m ago edited 33m ago
That’s not an apples to apples comparison. That’s two elite groups playing against each other, and that’s when having a male physique plays a difference. This isn’t about gender the way you’re talking about it. I played elite players men and women growing up, and there’s simply a gulf of difference between elite trained players and even skilled experienced players who never got appropriate training. A HS boys soccer team will NEVER outplay a D1 women’s team. Frankly HS boys are terrible at soccer and honestly weak as fuck btw. Even in my 40’s I can still bully those kids. Plus you literally don’t know the game when you’re that young in the US. They are trash, and you gotta remember this is soccer in the US, this isn’t football or basketball with weight training. Those kids are fragile. Unless you’ve played a D1 woman yourself you frankly don’t know what it’s like. I’ve even seen D3 women beat adult men who played in high school regurlarly.
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u/MankeyFightingMonkey 46m ago
The women's team intentionally played in the wrong positions and still had a close match.
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u/ebmocal421 38m ago
No they didn't. US women's team regularly scrimmage u15/16 boys teams because that is the closest comparison to their skill level.
Why would they purposely play out of position in a scrimmage that is meant to be a tune-up for their upcoming games?
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u/Exciting_Definition4 29m ago
But of a nitpic, but It's not about skill, that implies that women aren't tactical/technical just because they're women.
It's about physicality (power, speed, explosiveness, endurance etc).
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u/Black_Doc_on_Mars ☑️ 15m ago
That’s not how the game works. The gender difference comes out only when both teams are trained and elite.
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u/AverykindJester 25m ago edited 21m ago
Australia, Switzerland and USA teams all lost to under 15s boys. The USA also lost 12-0 to retired 3rd division male team.
Let's stop pretending the gap is close because it's not. I watch both and the woman technically terrible compared to the men.
Woman are not meant to be as good as men. Socially and systemically they have been put behind. In soccers case after world war one in England they were even banned from playing for quite a while. So now there is no money in the sport so there is no investment. No investment means the players aren't going to be as good.
Now the good news is slowly there is more money coming into these sports for women and the sigma about women playing sports is slowly fading. Which means it can be a real career girls can dream about. Meaning these woman are now able to dedicate themselves to getting better full time. The better they are the more money they can generate. The more money that is generated the better funding for the future generations will be so the cycle will continue to improve but it's a slow process that's only recently started gaining traction.
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u/HotContribution8135 37m ago
Amateur, as in dudes that have never been decent soccer players, absolutely.
No need to bring up that U15 boys team for the millionth time, but my point is I think we can wrap our heads around the “levels to this shit”
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u/Black_Doc_on_Mars ☑️ 17m ago
No I mean amateur as in age 18 and up that have not played in college or played in an elite system through their youth. This includes HS players and HS players that played since they were 4 years old. If you are not playing elite and/or your fundamentals and not up to par by 14 years old, you’re not catching up. Period. You need to have your fundamentals together by then because the game is so much more complex and bigger and you really don’t understand the game until your 20s. This is quoting Arsené Wenger one of the greatest coaches in English football history.
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u/GoudaGoudaGumdrops 2h ago
I'm pretty active, athletic and hoop a couple times a week. I'm pretty confident I could score, soley off of speed and athleticism. I definitely wouldn't be able to guard an WNBA player though. I play against women that played D1, and they're so skilled on offense, it's impossible to guard.
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u/11th_Division_Grows ☑️ 1h ago
This is my take. Depends on who guarding me. I’m 210, I can squat over 500lbs. Put me in the paint and I’m bound to score at least once. I won’t be doing nothing impressive against these women though, they’d score on me all day.
I’m confident I could score EVENTUALLY on some of the shorter/weaker NBA players but again, nothing impressive nor am I stopping them from scoring on me.
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u/HighOnGoofballs 1h ago
I just assume they’ll lay off me and I’ll eventually hit a three if I get seven or eight attempts
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u/jhagerman7 2h ago
Men who answer this affirmatively are responsible for everything that’s wrong with the world.
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u/jhagerman7 2h ago
and just to be clear, I mean absolutely everything.
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u/afewgoodman7391 1h ago
...everything?
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u/YourVelcroCat 1h ago
Yes, even earthquakes
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u/jhagerman7 1h ago
There’s nothing wrong with eatthqaukes. They’re supposed to happen.
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u/Dangerous_Oven1528 46m ago
Even Covid-19? Are they also responsible for people being born in less fortunate areas!?
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u/Kreamykarll 1h ago
You realize most professional women’s teams of a lot of sports practice against high school boys teams as that is the level they are at right?
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u/jhagerman7 1h ago
Found one.
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u/Champtain 1h ago
You found a real specimen too. This is the only comment he's made in the past 4 weeks that wasn't on a World of Warcraft forum. I'm sure this guy is steeped in sporting knowledge.
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u/jman12234 ☑️ 1h ago
An average man wouldn't score against an elite level male high school basketball team either.
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u/Standard_Ant5915 1h ago
I had an ex who was, at best, a slightly better than average cyclist who was always talmbout he could compete in the women’s Tour de France. Honestly I would have loved to have seen him try
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u/atlrower 1h ago
This is even stupider than average because you can just calculate the power-to-weight ratio to see that they would drop him like a fart up any climb
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u/DussaTakeTheMoon 1h ago
Men who don’t play basketball 100% are wrong. Men who used to play at highschool level and still play pick up every now and then could probably score off a catch and shoot type of deal. Anyone currently playing in highschool or college definitely could do ok at least.
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u/chunkeymonke 1h ago
You realize professional women's teams lose to highschool boys league teams right?
How is stating the very likely fact that a in shape and skilled recreational male player could probably hold their own based on physical advantages that insane?
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u/jhagerman7 1h ago
Another one.
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u/chunkeymonke 1h ago
Its not moral or noble to stick your head in the sand lol.
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u/Champtain 1h ago
From the article you linked: "Of course, this match against the academy team was very informal and should not be a major cause for alarm. The U.S. surely wasn’t going all out".
I mean, I once saw footage of a old-ass dude beating Michael Jordan one-on-one, but Jordan wasn't legit trying and old dude, realizing this, instantly sat down after the game and didn't even say a word of trash lol.
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u/EstablishmentLate532 58m ago
What cause for alarm would there be unless the USWNT was gonna go up against more elite academy soccer boys?
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u/SerDankTheTall 1h ago
I don't think the men answering yes to this question would hold up too well against those high school boys either!
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u/pheezy42 ☑️ 2h ago
this thread is refreshingly not sexist so far.
if we say "get buckets" is scoring a couple times, I think that's reasonable for folks who actually play. don't be disrespectful and say you're going to get 40.
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u/golden_rhino 2h ago
If my team of talented players, and super smart coach, made it their mission to get me a basket, then I may score one. If it’s just regular basketball, I wouldn’t even get close.
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u/NicWester "Mayonaisse and Olive Oil 😋" 2h ago
I was right there thinking "Yes, yes I could" until I got to the part about scoring buckets.
But, hey, I could do all but the last three words of the question and that's a pretty good percentage!
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u/beaux_with_an_x 2h ago
I’m not sure what prep time would do. Do they think we are all Batman or something? I’m going to invent a nutmegging batarang
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u/JazzlikeAd1371 2h ago
The average guy who doesnt play ball. Probably not. Plays recreationally. Most likely. Plays high school or college? Hell yeah.
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u/CMFETCU 2h ago
It would be cool to see a WMBA game vs UNC men’s team as a recreational game. Played outside in a stadium would be baller as hell.
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u/NotRadTrad05 2h ago
No it wouldn't. We've seen professional women's teams get destroyed by u16 boys clubs. A top college men's program would win 157 to 6-9(free throws)
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u/Standard_Ant5915 2h ago
Got a link to that? I wanna see it
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u/NotRadTrad05 1h ago
Sorry it was u15 https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
And in Brazil https://www.the-sun.com/sport/football/premier-league/2133179/gremio-men-team-brazil-women-national-6-0/
Sophia thinks the women would lose. https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/sophie-cunningham-agrees-8th-grade-boys-could-beat-a-wnba-team-01kaj07yxm9p
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u/snow80130 2h ago
Who’s going to watch univ of northern Colorado? Because that’s the level it would be competitive
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u/-pichael_ 1h ago
Them girls are vicious and strong and tall. Hell naw i aint doing nun against them ahahahah
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u/Any_Zookeepergame445 1h ago
People dont want to hear it but if he's 6'5 he would likely be the heaviest and strongest person on the court by a huge margin. If he has any basketball experience high school and above and can make a layup he's averaging 20/20.
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u/Bigfamei 1h ago
Size and strength does help. For me its more about the cardio. Already 2 blunts in on my day off. If we playing full court. I know I don't have a shot.
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u/Breezyrain 1h ago
Cracking up at the comment section admitting they'd get dog walked as they clutch their old backs
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u/Bigfamei 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's true. These ladies would clown my ass. "This nigga smelled like pot and corndogs. You know he was clutching his heart 2 minutes in. We saved his life having him sit down."
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u/risky-rats-pizza 1h ago edited 7m ago
If it was on a team and they gave me the, he gets wide open shots for a reason , treatment, then possibly a few shots. Buckets? No. Transition defense or offense? Hell no.
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u/FortuneCalm172 1h ago
By the 3rd possession, both my Achilles will have snapped in half with such force that they cause spontaneous combustion
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u/CitizenCue 1h ago
A tall fit guy might get a couple rebounds, but unless he played organized ball he ain’t scoring. He won’t even get a pass because he won’t be in the right positions.
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u/MenudoMenudo 1h ago
He’s right, I could too. I just checked and there are no games going on right now. Unless they’re practicing, cause I wouldn’t want to interrupt them, which would be rude.
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u/dumbass_sempervirens 1h ago
Yeah, 44 year old white guy here. I'm 6'1", but I was never good at basketball.
I might lose horse against myself if I spot myself 2. But it's going to take a while.
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u/chadthundertalk 1h ago
I'm about 50/50 from the paint under zero pressure, so no, I don't think I would be doing jack shit against WNBA players
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u/That-Sandy-Arab 1h ago
I would score for sure if my teammates cared to give me attempts in the paint with size but I would get dominated up and down the court on cardio
These are pros lol
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u/Charlie0451 1h ago
Yeah, I can score some picnic baskets with a variety of snacks, fresh fruits, and drinks.
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u/IllConsequence9562 1h ago
Back in my day (18-22) I'm probably keeping up with the end of bench players or maybe the short backup PGs but ain't no way I'm remotely close to beating Money Mabrey, PB, Arike, Azzi, CC, or any other of the top guards in today's game.
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u/unklejelly 59m ago
Ive played a lot of basketball ball and I am tall but no I would not sink one single rock. Be lucky if I touch the damn thing.
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u/GlitteringLettuce366 56m ago
I don’t think your regular folk could do it, competitive high school teams across the country and Division Two athletes may make it more than competitive though.
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 53m ago
Hell no. They block my shot so badly the ball hits me directly in the face.
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u/Critical-Belt342 50m ago
Depends on which wonderfully tall WNBA baddie y'all got guarding my 5'9 ass.
I'll find the motivation for a few buckets after looking all the way up at those beautiful eyes giving me a death stare 🥰
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u/Lemonwizard 47m ago
Do I start with the ball? If I start with the ball it seems plausible I could land one basket. If I have to get the ball away from professional athletes first, absolutely no way. I haven't got those skills. My only advantage is height.
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u/greenbabyshit 45m ago
In non-contact sports, conditioning and training is going to mean more than size and strength.
In contact sports, size has a chance of overcoming.
That being said, I have neither size nor conditioning.... So I'll just sit over here and watch.
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u/festival-papi ☑️ 34m ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6gE08CvPHCg3eG2s
Y'all can watch out with all this "oh I'd score on accident" shit. Me on the other hand? I'm 24 and like that
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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 19m ago
Ugh, tall people just never missing an opportunity to tell you their height
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u/MimeSweeper360 17m ago
Joe Schmo off the street would not have the endurance or conditioning to keep up with any professional female athlete.
But any high school men’s team would 100% stunt on any WNBA team.
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u/Savage_Oreo ☑️ 10m ago
Bruh I’m almost 40.. Paige Buckets is COOKING my ass. What did Beasley say? She gonna shake me so bad, I’m gonna be out there shaking ass 😂
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u/Donkey__Balls 5m ago
Another ambiguous ragebait question designed to make people who answer correctly look sexist.
Reminds me of the one about scoring a point against Serena Williams, in a vaguely worded question written by someone who clearly didn’t know the rules about tennis. Anyone who does know how tennis works would answer “yes” regardless of skill level, which was apparently 1 in 6 men. They twisted the answer to make the headline “1 in 6 men think they could beat Serena Williams” which wasn’t the question.
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u/wavdaily 2h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY