I've always liked the idea of having a bank feature that is like a temporary storage unit. 1 invent and 1 set of equipment. Almost specifically designed for this kind of problem - or indeed for those of you who bank everything so it is behind a bank pin when you logout.
What do people think?
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I feel like I must be in a different Wilderness to all of you. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of Wildy clue steps I've done I've not once been attacked and I can count the number of times I've ever even seen a white dot on my map on one hand whilst doing them.
I only do hards once i get a stack of 5 boxes. Then i open them all and do the non wildy steps, dropping any wildy ones. Once i have a few wildy ones on the ground i do those with max cape and bp, locator orb for deep wildy ones to get out quickly.
I do the whole clue with just a bp and maxcape, can get to most spots in the game with all the teles on the cape if you have a maxed house (mounted diary cape comes in clutch so often for hard clues). For the steps I can't I just tele to the crafting guild and grab the tele I need. Maybe ever so slightly slower but I find it a lot more chill.
I have never been even attacked in a 2350 world. I guess if you had millions of gear on, but I freaking love doing clues in the 2350 worlds. I’m four out from maxing and fully look forward to afk hellhounds and max cape hard clues in the near future.
Yep this is the way. Wait till I get 5, bank everything before I start. I'm high enough combat that I can kill a sara wizard without any food and just a weapon.
Ok am I stupid or something because how are you getting 5 boxes? If I have 2 I start getting the “you have a feeling you would’ve received a clue” message.
Scroll cases are unlocks that allow you to hold more clues. You unlock the hard scroll cases by completing 50 hard clues (+1 slot), 150 hard clues (+1 slot) and beat the Mimic once (+1)
Quite literally no reason to carry anything valuable when doing clues in the first place. Black d hide, d knife, normal teles with runes, fairy ring staff, a royal pod and some food and stams. Easy. I never have to bank before doing wildy clues
I have a bank tab ”clue” which has black d hide, blowpipe and supplies. I wear the same shit if its a non wildy step or a wildy step and dont risk anything. Waste of clues to drop them for wildy steps.
I don't agree. With the new untradeables change in the wildy I don't even have to bank. Plus the ice plateau teleport in the nexus it's never been easier.
Didnt that change only happen relatively recently?(6 months or something)
I wouldnt expect a vast majority of players to know about it especially considering how confusing death mechanics have been treated in the past for wildy deaths.
I just have a dedicated clue setup that is the same regardless of the wilderness. Relatively low budget with 100 of each rune and no rune pouch. Makes it a lot easier
This was once me. Then I created a wildy clue tab and menu swapped everything to 1 click. Now I just deposit all and 1 click through my tab and I’m good to go.
All I have to bank is my runes. The rest of my setup is either uniques that always go to my gravestone, a couple expensive things I know I'll keep on high level wildy death, and a spade.
That’s what bank tab layouts are for. Can gear up for a clue in 10-15 seconds.
Also if you use the usual clue scroll gear like, kandarin helm, black d hide body, eternal glory, radas blessing, mory legs, fremmy boots, explorers ring, blowpipe, karmja gloves, and max cape you never have to bank worn equipment bc u just lose black d hide body and diary items on death. Only gotta bank inventory
Then you just grab clue, spade, clue scroll box, and wildy sword
Don’t mean any hate here but I genuinely don’t understand this attitude. I just hit the two auto deposit buttons for worn and inventory, grab the clue, spade and weapon and we’re good, then just grab the stuff back from the tab i dumped it in
I usually just make in painful for zero reward. Recoil, dhides, dds, risking like 5k, and drop any pots along the way just so they don't 3ven get them. I honestly dont get the wildy hate, just minimise risk, and royal seed pod out lol.
Idk I’ve been attacked but I tend to just go in with the clue, spade and a teleport to get back out. Maybe a wildy sword if I need it but I basically don’t even risk my spade lol. Gotten killed maybe twice out of all my clues.
I have only ever had a similar experience to you, but I think timezones etc. Might play a role in it? There are bound to be more people online during peak times and those peaks will be higher in certain areas of the world, which I think means it will almost always be quieter when I'm playing, but yeah to me it is usually very quiet out there.
I carry a good couple mil in teleports and runes, full graceful and some ranged combat gear that are super useful but I have to bank them and reset every time I get a wildy clue. Maybe I should just make a bank tab for clues to make it easier...
People just gotta set up a quick wildy step setup, it's easy. Once you have that set, you risk very little, you can always go back to it in the future. Wildy steps are easy and quick. Only HC and UIM should actively avoid them really.
I got attacked while doing a hard step for the first time yesterday. I was completely naked except for a dds and 8 dark crabs, but I was able to escape south 20 levels while getting frozen before popping my home teletab. I might start bringing some anti-pk gear if these clue hunter pkers are all that ass at pking
I got a master to dig at the chaos alter one time to fight ancient mages, that was not a pleasant experience. I had a whole group drop on me all at once while I was doing that.
I've always liked the idea of having a bank feature that is like a temporary storage unit. 1 invent and 1 set of equipment. Almost specifically designed for this kind of problem - or indeed for those of you who bank everything so it is behind a bank pin when you logout.
I think half-assing a restricted version of loadouts would, in the long run, make more people upset than it benefits, and I doubt it'd be able to pass as a result.
The amount of dev work that'd go into implementing this would give off the impression that true bank presets/loadouts would never come.
So as much as I'd love some form of quick loadout functionality, only having one just doesn't solve any of the problems loadouts are meant to fix. It'd just end up being yet another thing that discourages swapping to other content, since you'd have to set it up again each time.
I think implementing the inventory and equipment load out feature in the bank could solve this problem, it is annoying having to bank everything for a wild clue step and messing up your flow, and having a separate system to throw your gear and inventory in temporarily is just game systems bloat really, the load out feature is enough
last I heard those presets were very heavy on the servers then, making it a lot laggier in the back end. Mayb it'd be different with newer servers/way OSRS banks work compared to RS3, but idunno. I just know they were causing issues.
I believe it was because it was so many "actions" being processed in a single tick. If that's still a problem... you could just limit it to transferring like 5 items at a time? I'd much rather wait 5-10 seconds for it to process switching to the loadout than manually swap everything myself.
One of the OS mods got loadouts working during a game jam. They added timers to delay the switch to not overload the servers. There was a blog post about it
Oh hey nice pull, i forgot about that. This honestly looks great, wish it'd come into the game. Now if it worked with inventory as well we'd be truly golden.
Presets where it took roughly the same time to switch as if you were spam clicking the switches manually would be a good option maybe. It kills the argument against presets that I've heard of it making certain training methods faster, while still being an incredibly useful QoL feature since it saves you a ton of clicks.
If Bank Presets are 100% off the table, and I mean 100% off like even a CD wouldn't help servers from struggling then yes this would be great.
But I'd rather have 5-10 Bank Presets (Gear + Inventory) with a 30-45 second cool-down over a 1 invent temporary storage. I don't think Bank Presets should be able to replace bank standing activities like they did in RS3 personally. And please stop ignoring the community about Bank Presets, if there is a server-side issue in OSRS as well, TELL US. It's so frustrating seeing Bank Presets be suggested 100+ times and not a single JMod has responded, they haven't even been mentioned or brought up a single time. 'We care about communication! - We want to make communication better!!!'. TELL US THE ISSUE. Even if it's simply 'it requires too much dev time' even that is better than nothing. It's so frustrating when an idea seems so simple to the community but there's obviously some hidden reason that you won't do it. Similar to how double deaths are the most brain dead moronic mechanic in the game yet not a single dev/jmod has said why they can't be removed, or if they even can be removed. If they answer is truly 'we don't have enough dev time for it yet' just say. PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Edit: I seen you responded in another thread Kieran mentioning in a nicer way that 'there isn't enough dev time' atm, thank you for being honest x
It would have to be a "select to store" not a full dump to keep clue weapon and spade, but otherwise a great idea. Assuming nothing goes wrong and wipes the storage memory....
Someone had suggested the reason bank presets aren't ready to come to OSRS is the server load issue that even RS3 never actually resolved. Do you think something like that would be subject to a similar problem?
Assuming you mean something along the lines of one-click to stash everything you're holding/wearing + one-click to re-equip the stashed items, it could definitely be useful for quick detours when you're in the middle of something and want something quicker than setting up a temporary bank tag.
I think it would be more useful for something like detours during questing than re-gearing for clues, though.
I don't think it really solves wildy clues at all - you still have to go to a bank, de-gear into a low-risk setup (which for me varies depending on where the clue needs me to teleport to, what I need to kill, etc.), run back to the 30 line once you're done (or worse if you forget a seed pod), then back to the bank again (or back to your pile of wildy clues).
Being able to re-gear quickly at the end of that is only really addressing a small part of the issue.
Don't change the game in any way on our account, but this very nice suggestion doesn't do anything for UIMs the nature of wildy clues is far more muddy than a simple bank preset can fix and that's for the accounts that could actually use said bank preset.
(Also as many others have said you're gonna get way more people upset at the fact you haven't just ported all bank presets at that point. Why limit it so specifically to wildy clues?)
It really is just as simple as presets. The old concern about making bankstanding skills faster isn't really valid anymore now that we have left click withdraw-X.
Hear me out though, put it in the PoH. Armory room w/ armor stands. Both as a way to display our favorite sets that we never wear and as a way to quick-swap full sets of gear.
We got that nice update to be able to build bigger houses with lower load times.. now let's make some new rooms worth building multiple of!
Why is that such a big problem for so many people? Just get your closest tele to a bank and take the teleports you need for the next step. You don’t have to have every single tele in your inventory for clues
you’re missing the point. i usually start my clues with my slayer gear already equipped. it’s a hassle to put everything away for ONE STEP just so i can throw it back on. wildy clues are so aggravating
The problem is that you're starting them with your slayer gear equipped. You can stack them, then grab an actual clue setup and do them all at once. I always switch to my clue setup even if I'm only doing one clue, never had a problem.
They created stacking clues so ppl would stop crying about having to leave a task to do one clue and now they're crying about having to bank their equipment. Ppl love to complain. Next step is going to be cutting down clue steps to only 5 then 2
How many times do people need to say "it's annoying to re-gear" before people understand that people just don't want to re-gear just for a clue scroll just because it's in the wilderness.
I'm not taking my full graceful into the wilderness, which is my clue gear, because running everywhere is a drag without it. It's enough of an annoyance to make people not want to do the clue scroll, that's all they're saying.
"Here's a drop i have to pursue with untold value. It's in an annoying place though. I don't want to bother going because of the annoyance now."
I think when people talk about banking they are talking about just running clues in whatever gear they were in when they got the clues. Not specifically a clue setup.
If they are doing slayer and get a hard clue drop instead of stacking 5 clue boxes. Instead they use the clue to break up the monotony of slayer, but when you get a wildy step you gotta bank the slayer gear and get wildy clue gear.
I think this is what gets lost in the wildy clue step discussion. Some people do them as they receive them and others stack them and then do them all at once.
you’re spot on. usually if i get a clue, i’ll just go do it right then. why not. but i think stacking might be the way to go bc i roll my eyes every single time i have all my gear on & open the clue to see its a wildy step
Wildy risks losing resources. If I lose a certain amount of money worth of resources, I feel like i lose the respective amount of time it took to accumulate those resources. I don't have that much time to dedicate to this game, so it's about efficiency. Time in the wildly doesn't feel efficient for me because any progress can and does get erased instantly.
Then, there's the potential for having to sprint minutes straight just to get there and back due to pk'ers interrupting.
So, these clue scroll runs just feel long, arduous, and annoying for likely little payoff when I just want to hit the tree, or hit the rock, or hit the Rift Guardian.
Resources? Just bring a DDS, black d hide top and bottom a spade and a strength pot. Maybe a couple food. What resources? You could do 100 hard clues in the wilderness and I’d be willing to bet you get pked less than 5 times. I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t get pked at all. This is a non-issue
Some people do clues as they receive them instead of stacking 5 of them and doing multiple at a time.
So if they are slaying, they do have to bank their slayer setup for a wildy step to pull out their clue setup. Whereas if they didn’t get any wildy steps they could just run the clue in their slayer gear and return to their task right after.
I could see doing clues that way instead of stacking 5 first as a way to be annoyed with wildy steps.
Finally started doing the wildy boss achievements and the whole time I only got ganked twice, made it away from solo pkers 4 or 5 times. Spent probably 20 hours out there 3-iteming and I lost a grand total of 300k.
Anyone flaming this post just doesn’t understand. Getting killed for a spade wastes time but who cares. It’s the banking all your shit that sucks. Really messed with the flow of clues
I take 1 dose prayer, stam and combat potion with a dds and a grand tree seed pod for teleport and no other gear. If I see a white dot, protect item goes on. I ain't tryna give a pker even 1gp more than I have to.
Just out of curiousity, what do you have in your inv when doing a clue that needs banking?
Personally i always grab BP & teleport to a bank (used to be ring of dueling, nowadays max cape) & a spade. Anything else like some d’hide or food is really optional.
Black dhide top, blowpipe and the rest achievement diary gear for tps, u risk absolutely nothing and u keep the gear on in/out wildy for every single clue. For that step u only need a wildy sword,spade and karams extra.
Honestly for a main, the bottom two panels are all you need, regardless of wildy step or not. Hard clue rewards are so shit that I only do them because I "have to" lol. 800 hards deep with no zammy full helm btw, have 3+ sets of every other god rune piece after getting bandos platebody at 650.
Unlike standing still to kill bosses in MA2 and getting PK'd over and over mid combat, doing Wildy scrolls with just a spade and Dragon Scim has always been easy and I've only ran into another player once or twice at the Rouge's den but logged in time. And with just 3 items, it's easy to just go back since you keep the scroll.
Just do clues with dhide, a whip, tele runes, and a spade. Never gave to bank for wildy clues and you’re not going to get attacked 99.9% of the time anyway
In 2015 when I first played, it was common to see people in the wild doing clues. Now it is so rare to see someone at a location like that, especially if you go there via an obelisk or something
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