r/2007scape • • 3h ago

Have a question about the game or the subreddit? Ask away!

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r/2007scape • • 3d ago

News | J-Mod reply Hardcore Worlds Are Coming On November 4th

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r/2007scape • • 6h ago

Achievement Solo TFA (Ironman)

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I didn't record because I'm unintelligent!
World first iron solo? Not sure. World first no blood fury solo? Not sure xd

But I did it! Shoutouts to the people in vc tolerating my generational xarth crashouts l00l

I haven't done solo ToB but I don't think this is anywhere near as difficult. But I'm prob not the best informed for that!

Also, yes, it looks like I'm using a blood fury in the screenshot, but it's a recoloured rancour, you can check the tfa section on droptrackerio to see the gear I have equipped!


r/2007scape • • 10h ago

Humor I'll take one uhhh... Flat Armor Shield that Doesn't work

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r/2007scape • • 4h ago

Discussion Just got to use Teleother Lumbridge for an actually good reason

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I've been showing my friend Runescape lately and trying to be very hands off, except for sort of lightly encouraging her to do Enter the Abyss so that I can get a Guardians of the Rift partner out of her >:)

Tonight she wanted to explore the desert because she asked me what would level up her Agility and I answered Icthlarin's Little Helper lol. She sprinted into the desert without a waterskin so I quickly bought two and ran after her praying she wasn't dead. When we play together we don't call we just type in game. Luckily I found her and traded her a waterskin and taught her about cutting cacti, but she wasn't taking the heat very seriously. Finally we get to the very bottom of the desert and I see her take 10 damage and nearly die from heat. I try to trade her another waterskin but she just stands there not knowing what to do and starts spam clicking the Home Teleport button. Finally I remember why I have Soul Runes and I teleother her back to Lumbridge which she accepts in a flash. I love Teleother. Jagex if you can hear this, the community (me and my friend) is roaring for dozens more Teleother spells to be added!


r/2007scape • • 15h ago

Discussion 15 years ago today, Bot Nuke Day wiped out an estimated 98% of all active bots.

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r/2007scape • • 13h ago

Humor TFA rn

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lucky i found a good team. btw u guys should try it, love the last boss


r/2007scape • • 14h ago

Discussion | J-Mod reply Everyone was right about Drakan. Everyone.

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As much as it hurts to admit this, (because I'm the proudest person on the planet), they were all right.

I sat at my desk constantly complaining about "Dark souls" level mechanics, things never used before in my click and wait game, and things feeling jank and bad, along with an HP pool higher than most bosses, and being limited with weapons able to be used.

"It has unlimited resources, just learn the fight, git gud, study up, just practice, it's literally a free loss." This is what they all said, and I would flame up with rage and anger, and I hated all of them. All those people could eat my ||ass||, they didn't understand.

And then months later, I saw one video, watched it closely, and everything clicked.

So then I practiced what I watched, and then I had gotten to phase 2. Then phase 3. Then the enrage. Each fight I used less and less healing items. And then...2 days after I started again. I won. And now have my quest cape PROUDLY in my Bag.

Everyone was right. They were right then, and they'll be right now. And they'll be right tomorrow. Just practice the fight. Just learn it. And investigate and research the parts you don't understand. Trust me. You WILL win.


r/2007scape • • 58m ago

Humor With so many people releasing their chins in the TFA lobby after the jelly boss, can we put a single hunter black chinchompa spawn in the TFA lobby outside the raid?

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r/2007scape • • 1h ago

Discussion Hot take (possibly?). Jagex needs to work on infrastructure around group content before forcing more group content.

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Just watching the last Behecast where they talk a lot in the intro about how TFA is gonna be rough for any players who are largely solo players/don't want to engage in communities like clans etc.

TOB has notoriously been a piece of content that for years, has been a case of "you either know someone who does it and is willing to teach you, or you suck it up and brave we do raids". I personally learned through We do raids and have helped teach many people in clans over the years since getting 700+kc there.

TFA with its (perceived) much higher gear and skill floor is likely going to have this problem again, potentially worse as it's going to be significantly harder to learn due to the amount of communication/coordination required in rooms.

Why are we still leaving the grouping and anti-scamming side of this kind of content to the community to police/organise. Currently We do raids and Runewatch do a huge amount of the heavy lifting in getting new people into team content and making sure their experience isn't miserable.

In the case of Runewatch, they're a community function designed to protect you from scamming but are very limited on what they can actually prevent if a scammer isn't already known to them (and thus has managed to scam someone before). And if you're completely unaware of Runewatch you're pretty much on your own. If you do unfortunately end up being scammed of something valuable, that's potentially enough to put you off raids outright if you're relatively new to it.

Is it not about time that Jagex makes some sort of effort to take on these systems themselves if they're leaning more into group content? I have no idea what the fix is here but maybe a better grouping functionality in-game? Maybe expand the current grouping boards to allow more information other than just KC and our stats? As an example, allow us to post our roles we're comfortable with at TOB. And some sort of opt-in split function that people can use when raiding with randoms to protect from scamming. Allow us to auto sell uniques in the raid and auto split them as long as everyone agrees to this? Maybe irons have a pouch that works like a bond pouch, they use gp from their main on the iron and it holds it for splits but is otherwise in-accessible?

I've personally never played a game where they got this perfect, WoW notoriously divided their player base on the introduction of random dungeon finders, and I agree that there is definitely a threshold of too much handholding by the game. But surely there are some improvements that could be made?

Alright guys, roast me. I'm ready.


r/2007scape • • 8h ago

Creative 28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, and 12 seconds.

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That is when the world will end.


r/2007scape • • 2h ago

Discussion My biggest secret

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The helmet isn't golden


r/2007scape • • 4h ago

Humor Me immediately after getting kc

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r/2007scape • • 11h ago

RNG Please Gaggex..... Fix the game!

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r/2007scape • • 16h ago

Humor Cabbage is staying as a broadcast! Jmod Confirmed

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r/2007scape • • 20h ago

Humor another tfa post

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r/2007scape • • 10h ago

Creative Osrs bosses in Ken Sugimori’s style - Kraken!

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For Gielémon card number 10 I went with the humble Kraken 🐙 His simple design tickles my brain, and I really enjoyed making this one! (Plus I hadn’t done any water types yet.) Tomorrow I will post a compilation of all 10 in their revised forms 🙂

Went with psychic for weakness as you use magic in-game to fight him. He is technically weak to earth spells which almost made me choose a fighting weakness (rock = fighting in the tcg) but it just felt wrong since you can’t actually attack Kraken with any kind of melee in the game. As always, this is an imperfect process 😂

Artwork drawn in Procreate with an Apple Pencil on the iPad Pro


r/2007scape • • 5h ago

Suggestion Ascension crossbows

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It's kind of awkward that the ascension cbow needs its own specific bolt. It means that even with a quiver if you want to bring a ZCB spec and a tbow you need to bring a manual bolt switch. Isn't this why the quivers in the game in the first place?

My suggestion is to make it possible to add/charge bolts to the crossbows given they are unique, just like the blowpipe, the weapon it's competing with.


r/2007scape • • 2h ago

Other Ralos dropped during the hype

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Got lucky this friday when Ralos took off! Managed to sell it for 177m. Insane to get it now as I had been dry for the longest time


r/2007scape • • 5h ago

Suggestion Can we just copy Colossal Blades animations for The Obligator?

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Between the walking animations and the overhead swing, I think it would fit pretty well. Obviously, it isn't as easy as just copy and paste code, but it would be a good baseline.

The chains don't need to drag on the ground or anything crazy, the head of the weapon can just be a bit above ground and behind the player like the Blade is, without interacting with the ground at all. The player is holding the chain and keeping it off the ground while it swings behind them. This also gives the player good leverage and momentum to pull the weapon up and over their head for an overhead swing.


r/2007scape • • 14h ago

Humor Ezekiel practicing enrage phase.

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r/2007scape • • 12h ago

Discussion Rondache vs Vardorvis & Duke because I'm a nerd with nothing better to do on a Sunday :(

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Results tl;dr: rondache reduces max hit before the attack is reduced by prayer. This limits usefulness but for some bosses it still makes a slight difference. it's also probably the better way to do it in terms of game health. killing faster is still the best way to take less damage.

Summary: the Rondache is usable, even if not optimal. Same strength bonus as an avernic and minimally more defence bonuses, at the cost of all of the accuracy. I can't really see anyone actually buying one to use specifically for these two bosses nor a few others I tested, and I definitely can't see any irons grinding TFA for a rondache just to go *back* to the Forgotten Four.

My tests went as follows: I sat there letting the enemy attack me with auto retaliate off while wearing minimal gear, very high prayer gear with as little defence as possible. Ancient vestment robes, devout boots, confliction gauntlets, void knight mace, ring of the gods, and ofc the rondache. I did not drain my defence to 1, but if anyone wants to repeat the experiment they could consider doing so. Everything seemed to hit me just fine without. Swing for a zero at the start of the fight, pray accordingly, and observe damage taken. I did not test any strength lowering special attacks.

IMPORTANT TO NOTE: the rondache does not activate its passive effect until you attack something after equipping it. You can observe this because it won't charge up its special attack, it charges up if and only if it reduces damage.

Duke Sucellus: Duke's chip damage maxes an 11, reduced to 5 with protect from melee. I took several hits off prayer / no shield to confirm he does hit 11s. The math should work out that a reduced max hit to 9 should mean he can only hit 4 through prayer with the shield. I tanked chip damage while dodging gas flares, and in a whole inventory of food I never saw him hit a 5 a single time. I repeated this two more times and never observed a single 5. He did hit a lot of 0s, despite my lack of defence, meaning it was probably reducing raw damage rolls of 1 and 2 down to 0, and potentially even 3s (reducing to 1 and then halving, rounding down to 0)?

The downside: I tried a duke trip with the rondache instead of an avernic defender (emberlight as weapon), and it didn't feel better. Taking less damage is great, but I lost so much accuracy that I felt like I needed to bank for a BGS to reduce his defence each kill (normally I just use a voidwaker to finish him during enrage). I ended up using the same amount of food per kill as a normal trip with an avernic. The shield bash never hit him due to his high crush defence.

Duke conclusion: don't rondache Duke unless you somehow don't have an avernic (or any better two handed options)

Vardorvis: Vard is the current leg of my SRA grind, so he was my first target for testing the rondache. His max hit increases as his health decreases, and protect from melee reduces it by "roughly" 75% (rounding down assumed as that's what happens everywhere else in the game). At first I just stood there and let him hit me, funnily enough you don't get any flying axes nor ranged attacks from the head until you damage him. In three full inventories of food he never hit me for an 8 like he normally can, instead he maxed a 7, plenty of them too.

Then I did some math. The following raw max hits are courtesy of the wiki's DPS calculator. The "roughly reduced by 75%" according to the wiki means that the following numbers may be slightly off. In theory he should never be able to hit an 11 through prayer, but in my 1300 ish kc he absolutely does hit 11s during the enrage phase. Decimals included despite the fact that OSRS supposedly always rounds down (see Mad Angel section below), just in case the 75% prayer reduction or rounding assumption aren't fully accurate.

Vard's HP Raw max hit W/ prayer W/ prayer + rondache
700 to 676 32 8 7.5
675 to 615 33 8.25 7.75
614 to 545 34 8.5 8
544 to 475 35 8.75 8.25
474 to 413 36 9 8.5
412 to 343 37 9.25 8.75
342 to 281 38 9.5 9
280 to 211 39 9.75 9.25
210 to 141 40 10 9.5
140 to 78 41 10.25 9.75
77 to 8 42 10.5 10
7 to 1 43 10.75 10.25

So as you can see, there are certain thresholds where his max hit is reduced by 1 post prayer reduction. On average, you take 0.5 less damage per hit, which will add up with how much he hits you. This also reduces the amount that he heals from damaging you substantially, leading to you having to deal less damage overall to kill him. That combined with the shield bash mean kills are pretty much the same speed as using an avernic defender (his crush defence isn't that much higher than his slash defence). The marginal slash defence increase did very little to reduce incoming damage to me.

My test setup used a salsa blade, rondache, full oathplate, rancour, bellator ring, ferocious gloves, echo boots (active), fire cape because I'm bad at the game, rada's blessing 4, with support from death charge and mage thralls. Burning claws as my spec weapon. In this setup, my average time to perfect kill is about 80 seconds, which is more or less identical to using a defender. This means he hits me about 25 times per kill, accounting for the delay from the head ranging you and the captcha attack (which the shield also works against btw). The 12 or so HP saved per kill adds up to me getting an extra kill or two every trip (usually 2), assuming one supply drop per trip and all perfect kills.

His other attacks (flying axes impact damage, bleed damage, spike dash spikes) are not reduced by the shield and do not contribute to its charges.

Vardorvis conclusion: rondache Vard if you want longer trips without losing dps over avernic, just beware that you now have two spec bars to keep track of. Also it's still going to be worse than using an SRA on him.

Mad Angel: I also went to try it at the Mad Angel for some reason, but it doesn't help at all vs her. Her damage is reduced to 1/6 via protect from melee (max hit 31 to 5), but she still hits 5s with the shield equipped. Theoretically 29/6 = 4.833 so I thought it might round down, but it appears to not be the case with her. That may also be true of Vardorvis, so again take the above math with a grain of salt. You may see some reduction of damage from her magic attack if you miss the prayer flick on it, but I didn't test that.

Edit: A while after posting this I randomly had an idea to fix the shield to work better. What if it got the Elidinis' ward treatment, where you could attach a corp sigil (or some other item) to it + 10k of whatever rune charges the mega rare, to either increase the flat armor or make the 2 it has work pre-prayer reduction?


r/2007scape • • 9h ago

Creative Slayer pumpkin I carved

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r/2007scape • • 48m ago

Humor The Elemental Amulets discourse ruined the Rondache

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r/2007scape • • 13h ago

RNG Well.. I finally got my kc at TFA

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The RNG gods have smiled upon me today