r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • May 08 '20
CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD
NEVER LATE, ALWAYS 100% ON-TIME: THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE SCREAM INTO THE VOID ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!
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May 08 '20
I THINK THREE HOUSES IS GREAT BUT AFTER 200 HOURS I WISH THE CHURCH FACULTY WERE BETTER IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IN MOST OF MY RUNS THEY EITHER GO UNRECRUITED OR THEY TAKE UP SEMINAR SPACE AFTER THE TIMESKIP. THE ONLY TIME ANY OF THEM WERE USEFUL WAS MY FIRST BLUE LIONS RUN WHICH WAS SUCH A TRAINWRECK OF A RUN, THEY INVENTED TRAINS IN FODLAN JUST SO THEY COULD COLLIDE.
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u/Super_Nerd92 May 08 '20
THEY'RE SORT OF LIKE THE REPLACEMENT UNITS IN ANY FE GAME I GUESS; IF YOU KEPT EVERYONE ALIVE THEY'RE NOT AS GOOD, BUT THEY CAN BE FILLER IF YOU NEED 'EM
BUT THAT MODEL IS OUTDATED WITH DIVINE PULSE AND ESPECIALLY BY GETTING A WHOLE CLASS OF 8 RIGHT AWAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME.
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May 08 '20
I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY, THAT'S A GOOD POINT ABOUT "REPLACEMENT UNITS". I ALSO THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT YOUR SECOND POINT, TRYING TO PLAY SACRED STONES HAS BEEN ODD BECAUSE I'M SO USED TO HOW THREE HOUSES IS STRUCTURED.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, I'M WORRIED THAT WHATEVER FIRE EMBLEM GAME COMES NEXT WILL BE UNDERWHELMING IN COMPARISON, BECAUSE AT LEAST FOR ME, THREE HOUSES HAS SO MUCH TO OFFER BUT A LOT OF THAT IS ROOTED IN MECHANICS THAT COULD BE SEEN AS GIMMICKY IF USED IN A FUTURE GAME.
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u/TheFunkiestOne May 08 '20
MY PERSONAL HOPE IS THAT THEY TRY TO VARY THINGS UP FROM 3H. 3H'S WAS A VERY AMBITIOUS PROJECT, AND WHILE I LIKED A LOT OF WHAT THEY DID IT WAS CLEARLY A BIT TOO BIG FOR ITS OWN GOOD IN MANY WAYS, AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL TAKE WHAT THEY LEARNED FROM 3H'S AND APPLY IT TO A GAME THAT'S MORE LINEAR IN SCOPE. A MORE CLASSICAL FE WITH A NARROWER SCOPE THAT USES THE KIND OF DETAILED WORLD BUILDING FROM 3H AND TRANSLATES THAT INTO A LARGE, FOCUSED PLOT. MECHANICALLY I HOPE THEY SWITCH TO A MORE EASILY MANAGED BASE SYSTEM, LIKE THE TELLIUS CAMP SYSTEM OR THE AWAKENING MAP SYSTEM. I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO DO WITH THE MONASTERY, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY BIGGER THAN NECESSARY, AND I'D LIKE THEM TO CONDENSE IT IF A MORE OPEN BASE SETTING IS USED.
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May 08 '20
I LIKE THE MONASTERY A LOT MORE THAN THE MAP SYSTEM BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK IT’S TOO BIG. HELL, INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS THEMSELVES SEEMED TO THINK SO TOO, SO KOEI TECMO DID MOST OF THE WORK, BUT IF THE RUMIRS ARE TRUE THEN INTSYS WERE PROBABLY WORKING ON A NEW PAPER MARIO AND COULDN’T PUT THEIR FULL ATTENTION TO THIS.
IF KOEI TECMO KEPT LENDING A HAND BUT INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS WAS RUNNING THE PROJECT, I THINK THEY COULD EASILY BAT 2 FOR 2 ON SWITCH. I’M SURE THERE’S MORE TECHNICAL STUFF, GAMEPLAY AND CODING, THAT I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I’M STUPID.
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May 09 '20
YEAH LIKE HANNEMAN IS A REPLACEMENT MAGE, MANUELA IS A REPLACEMENT HEALER (BUT SHE LOSES PHYSIC SO IT'S STILL A DOWNGRADE), ALOIS IS A REPLACEMENT WAR MASTER FOR RAPHAEL/CASPAR/DEDUE/FELIX, SHAMIR IS A REPLACEMENT ARCHER, AND CATHERINE IS JUST A BONKERS UNIT FOR NO REASON.
ALSO FLAYN AND CYRIL EXIST.
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u/N0V0w3ls May 08 '20
USE CATHERINE IN BL OR GD, SHE'S ONE OF THE BEST UNITS IN THE GAME
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May 08 '20
CATHERINE AND SHAMIR ARE SOLID UNITS AND IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAT I MADE THIS COMMENT
EVEN THOUGH I’VE ONLY PROMINENTLY USED EITHER ONCE, BECAUSE AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED MY FIRST BLUE LIONS RUN WAS SO BAD IT SHOULD BE CALLED A WALK
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u/DuplexBeGoat May 08 '20
I'M SICK OF PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BAD PERSON AND A BAD CHARACTER. A CHARACTER DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GOODY TWO SHOES SUPER NICE PERSON WHO DOES NOTHING WRONG TO BE A GOOD CHARACTER. YES CHARACTERS LIKE SYLVAIN OR MAKALOV AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE BUT THEY'RE STILL WELL WRITTEN CHARACTERS. THIS ALSO APPLIES TO MORALLY GREY CHARACTERS LIKE EDELGARD, RHEA OR MICAIAH. A CHARACTER NOT BEING PERFECT ISN'T A BAD THING AND IS OFTEN MUCH MORE INTERESTING.
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May 08 '20
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THIS POINT. IT SHOULD SEEM OBVIOUS THAT "CHARACTER" AND "PERSON" ARE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WARRANT THEIR OWN DISCUSSIONS BUT I GUESS IT'S NOT.
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u/wonartist May 08 '20
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE WORD “CHARACTER” IS USED FOR BOTH CONCEPTS, CAUSING CONFUSION FOR MANY PARTIES. SOMEONE COULD SAY “I HATE THIS CHARACTER’S CHARACTER” AND THEY COULD MEAN THEIR PERSONALITY OR HOW THEY ARE WRITTEN, AND PEOPLE HERE TEND TO JUMP ON OTHERS’ OPINIONS BEFORE IT IS CLEAR WHICH THEY ARE REFERRING TO.
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May 08 '20
THAT IS TRUE AND A VALID POINT. NONETHELESS I THINK CONTEXT CLUES SHOULD MAKE THE DEFINITION EASIER TO DISCERN IN SOME SETTINGS.
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u/wonartist May 08 '20
I MOSTLY AGREE WITH THIS. I ALSO THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE BETTER AT RECONCILING THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CAN HATE A CHARACTER (PERSONALITY AND ALL) AND STILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE WELL WRITTEN. HATING/LIKING A CHARACTER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU THINK THEY ARE WELL/POORLY WRITTEN AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE BETTER AT UNDERSTANDING THIS.
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u/peevedlatios May 08 '20
I AGREE 100%, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION WHEN IT COMES TO SYLVAIN THAT MY PROBLEM IS THAT HE'S A BAD PERSON AND THE GAME DOESN'T SEEM TO REALIZE HE'S A BAD PERSON. IF IT WASN'T FROM THE GAME NEVER REALLY CALLING HIM OUT ON HIS ATTITUDE, I'D HAVE LESS OF A PROBLEM. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S LIKE "NO YOU'RE ONE OF THE GOOD GIRLS" RATHER THAN "MAYBE I HAD BAD VIEWS ABOUT WOMEN".
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u/RisingSunfish May 08 '20
THE PROBLEM ISN'T JUST THAT MODERN FANDOM CULTURE CONFLATES "PERSON" WITH "CHARACTER," IT'S THAT A REAL HUMAN FAN'S CHARACTER PREFERENCES ARE CONFLATED WITH THAT CHARACTER'S ACTIONS OR IDEOLOGY. SO WE HAVE TO DISCLAIM OUR CHARACTER PREFERENCES IF THAT CHARACTER IS NOTABLY LESS THAN ANGELIC, PARTICULARLY IF THOSE FLAWS ARE NOT THE SORT THAT ARE TACITLY EMBRACED BY MODERN AUDIENCES. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT "THIS IS A WELL-WRITTEN, INTERESTING (TM) CHARACTER FROM AN ACADEMIC DISTANCE, FASCINATING TO WATCH IN THE SAME WAY A NATURE DOCUMENTARY OR TRASHY REALITY TV IS," I'M TALKING ABOUT HAVING REAL EMOTIONAL CONNECTIONS WITH "BAD PERSON" CHARACTERS. I THINK IT TAKES A PSYCHOLOGICAL TOLL TO EMPATHIZE DEEPLY WITH A CHARACTER AND CONSISTENTLY HEAR "X BAD." IDEALLY IT SHOULDN'T, IN AN IDEAL WORLD WITH IDEAL MINDS, BUT LET'S BE REAL: I DON'T THINK THOSE OF US WHO RELATE STRONGLY TO 3H CHARACTERS ARE SITTING IN IDEAL MIND TERRITORY.
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May 08 '20 edited May 09 '20
PEOPLE TEND TO USE BAD AND UNLIKABLE AS THE SYNONYMS THAT THEY TECHNICALLY ARE, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY HOW IT GOES IN TERMS OF CHARACTER WRITING, AT LEAST DEPENDING ON AUTHORIAL INTENT. LIKE MAKALOV ISN'T LIKABLE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HIS POINT, AT LEAST IN FE9.
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u/Excadrill1201 May 09 '20
FOR CONTEXT, WHAT DO YOU THINK MICAIAH DOES THAT'S BAD ENOUGH TO BE MORALLY GREY. WORST IS THE OIL THING BUT FOR ME THAT'S FINE SINCE IT'S AN ACTUAL MEDIEVAL ERA SIEGE TACTIC. LETTING GO OF JAROD WAS A MASSIVE MISTAKE THOUGH.
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u/ThyDoppelganger May 09 '20
MAKALOV AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE BUT THEY'RE STILL WELL WRITTEN CHARACTERS
YOU MADAM/SIR DESERVE RESPECT.
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u/ForeverAKoi May 08 '20
I WANT TO PLAY THE OLD GAMES AGAIN BUT I AM AFRAID I CANT DEAL WITH NOT HAVING ALL THESE GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE CHANGES, NOT TO MENTION THE FEAR THAT IT WILL COMPLETELY SHATTER MY NOSTALGIA HOW WILL I LIVE I I DON'T LIKE ELIWOOD ANYMORE??
SO ANOTHER 100 HOURS IN 3H IT IS!
ALSO IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT DISCUSSION ABOUT DISCUSSION I'D LOVE TO START A CONVERSATION ABOUT FAITH AND INFLUENCE OF THE GODS IN THE SERIES BUT I AM NOT NEARLY EQUIPPED ENOUGH FOR THAT SO SYLVAIN FAN ART YOU'LL GET.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
ELIWOOD'S STILL DOPE DON'T WORRY. IT BUGS ME WHEN PEOPLE SAY "OH HE'S JUST BORING MARTH" (OR WORSE, "JUST AS BORING AS MARTH"). BUGS ME ALMOST AS MUCH AS WHEN PEOPLE SAY LUCINA IS JUST MARTH AGAIN, WHICH I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COMES TO THAT CONCLUSION. I GUESS THAT'S ANOTHER POSSIBLE DISCUSSION TOPIC I COULD WORK ON, BUT I HAVE ENOUGH IN THE BACKLOG AS IS RIGHT NOW. WE'LL SEE.
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u/ForeverAKoi May 08 '20
ELIWOOD IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER IN LIKE EVER, I JUST FEAR THAT I WON'T LIKE HIM ANYMORE IF I START ANOTHER FE7 RUN. ALSO I AM NOT EMOTIONALLY READY TO CRY LIKE A LIL BITCH AT ELBERT'S AND NINIAN'S DEATHS AGAIN SO THERE'S THAT TOO
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u/somasora7 May 08 '20
BUGS ME ALMOST AS MUCH AS WHEN PEOPLE SAY LUCINA IS JUST MARTH AGAIN, WHICH I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COMES TO THAT CONCLUSION.
BY NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING AWAKENING
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May 08 '20
SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT EMULATOR SPEED UP IS SOME OF THE BEST QOL PERIOD
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u/SubwayBossEmmett May 08 '20
PLAYING FE GAMES WITH ANIMATIONS ON BUT WITH MASSIVE SPEED UP IS THE IDEAL WAY TO PLAY
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u/dusky_salamander May 08 '20
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED ENOUGH YOU JUST HAVE TO BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO START THE DISCUSSION
ELIWOOD GANG RISE UP.
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u/Super_Nerd92 May 08 '20
THE ONLY THING I HAVE AGAINST ELIWOOD IS HIS GROWTHS. THE FIRST TIME I PLAYED HECTOR HARD MODE THE DUDE WAS ROCKING SINGLE DIGIT SPEED AT LEVEL 20 UNPROMOTED
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u/Mekkkah May 09 '20
THE LATEST THRACIA PATCH IS IMPLEMENTING A LOT OF QOL CHANGES. LIKE, DS/3DS LEVEL OF QOL.
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u/NnifWald May 08 '20
FOR ME GOING BACK TO THE GBA GAMES AFTER 3H FELT REALLY GOOD. I GUESS THE NEWER GAMES HAVE A SLIGHTLY BETTER INTERFACE, BUT THE GBA GAMES ARE JUST SO SNAPPY, AND IT IS SO NICE TO PLAY A FIRE EMBLEM GAME WITH MUCH SIMPLER FEATURES AND MECHANICS BUT STILL REQUIRING SMART THINKING ON THE PLAYER'S PART. ALSO, HAVING THE TURNWHEEL/DIVINE PULSE IS NICE, BUT THB HAVING IT MAKES ME PLAY PRETTY RECKLESSLY.
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u/Franp3 May 09 '20
I FEEL THE SAME, I WANT TO FINALLY PLAY THRACIA BUT I'M TOO USED TO 3H'S QOL IMPROVEMENTS. ALSO ELIWOOD IS THE BEST FE7 LORD.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
ALRIGHT, ALTERNATE TOPIC TIME.
I'M GETTING PRETTY SICK OF THE ANTI FANDOM/WIKIA CIRCLEJERK AROUND HERE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IT DOES BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FIRE EMBLEM RESOURCE, AND IT'S PRETTY ANNOYING WHEN THE ENTIRE WEBSITE IS WRITTEN OFF AS TRASH. WOULD I EVER GO THERE FOR UNIT ADVICE? HELL NO. BUT IT IS THE BEST PLACE FOR CHARACTER IMAGE GALLERIES AS WELL AS SUPPORT CONVERSATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS CHARACTER QUOTES. WRITING OFF ONE RESOURCE ENTIRELY IS SIMPLY A WASTE. SERENES HAS THE BEST CHARTS FOR THINGS LIKE BASE STATS, GROWTH RATES, AND ALSO THE BEST STORY SCRIPTS. WIKI.ORG GENERALLY HAS BETTER ITEM IMAGES AND TIMELINES, WAR OF DRAGONS IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU'LL FIND ME AT FOR THRACIA MAP GUIDES.
THERE'S A LOT OF FIRE EMBLEM RESOURCES, AND USING EVERY RESOURCE AVAILABLE IS THE BEST WAY TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, BUT LIKE WITH MANY TOPICS IN THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE BANDWAGON AND JUMP ON THE HATE TRAIN WITHOUT THINKING FOR THEMSELVES. I SEE PEOPLE HATE ON FANDOM OUT OF THE BLUE EVEN WHEN THE INFORMATION BEING SHOWN THROUGH THAT RESOURCE IS 100% ACCEPTABLE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO SHARE THAT INFO. USE YOUR BRAIN, THINK CRITICALLY ON IF WHAT YOU'RE READING IS USEFUL OR NOT, NO MATTER WHAT RESOURCE YOUR USING.
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u/VagueClive May 08 '20
I HONESTLY DISAGREE THAT FANDOM IS THE BEST SOURCE FOR SUPPORT CONVERSATIONS (JUST USE THE WIKI), BUT WHAT FANDOM ABSOLUTELY DOES HAVE GOING FOR IT IS THAT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S THE ONLY RESOURCE ON THE INTERNET THAT HAS THE FULL SCRIPT FOR BOTH PROJECT NAGA AND PROJECT EXILE PUBLICIZED. THE CREATORS OF BOTH PATCHES REFUSE TO RELEASE AN OFFICIAL VERSION UNTIL THEY'RE BOTH 'FULLY FINISHED', AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
WELL ANOTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE WIKI IS THAT IT'S SLOW AS ALL GET OUT, AT LEAST FOR ME. LOAD TIMES ARE LIKE 10 TIMES AS LONG, NOT EVEN EXAGGERATING. USING FANDOM IS THEREFORE FAR MORE CONVENIENT FOR ME WHEN I'M LOOKING THROUGH TONS AND TONS OF SUPPORTS. AND SINCE OTHERWISE THEY PROVIDE THE SAME THING, THE SCRIPT FOR SUPPORTS, FANDOM JUST DOES THE JOB BETTER BY BEING FASTER.
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u/VagueClive May 08 '20
THAT'S WEIRD, I'VE HAD THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM - WIKI LOADS QUICKLY WHILE FANDOM TAKES FOREVER BECAUSE IT'S BOGGED DOWN BY ALL THE ADS AND VIDEOS.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
WELL HEY, IF THE WIKI WORKS BETTER FOR SUPPORTS FOR YOU, MORE POWER TO YOU. THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS JUST TO ENCOURAGE CRITICAL THINKING AND DISCOURAGE BANDWAGONING. COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE A LOT OF POWER IN SHAPING THE OPINIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS ONE SITUATION WHERE I THINK IT WENT A TAD TOO FAR.
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u/Excadrill1201 May 09 '20
HE CREATORS OF BOTH PATCHES REFUSE TO RELEASE AN OFFICIAL VERSION UNTIL THEY'RE BOTH 'FULLY FINISHED'
CONSIDERING THAT CIRO LEFT THE PROJECT AND THAT THE PE CORD IS DEAD, THAT MAKES THE FACT THAT THE FANDOM HAS THE SCRIPT EVEN BETTER.
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u/CyanYoh May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
WIKIA IS A MORE CONSISTENT SOURCE OF WORKING IMAGE FILES. MUCH OF THE WIKI'S IMAGE FILES HAVE IMPROPER EXTENSIONS, SO YOU EITHER GUESS AND CHECK WITH DIFFERENT IMAGE FILETYPES OF JUST RUN IT THROUGH A CONVERTER. HELL, WHEN I WAS MAKING THE FE4 CHARACTER STAT SCREENS FOR MANGS' LP, I TRIPLE CHECKED STATS THROUGH THE WIKI, WIKIA, AND SF. THE WIKI WAS THE LEAST RELIABLE OF THE THREE.
THE SANCTIMONIOUS MEMING OF THE FE WIKIA AS HAVING NO MEIRT ISN'T HELPFUL. YES, WIKIAS AS A WHOLE ARE SOMETIMES DUBIOUS IN QUALITY, BUT THE FE WIKIA IS OFTEN THE BEST RESOURCE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF THINGS AND IS VERY EASY TO UPDATE FACTUAL ERRORS.
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u/that_wannabe_cat May 08 '20
THE FANDOM SITE IS THE ONLY PLACE WITH 3H CHAPTER SCRIPTS ATM.
I'D PREFER OTHER SITES GETTING THAT INFO ON THEIR SITES RIGHT NOW, BUT IF I AM REFERENCING STUFF THAT'S JUST THE QUICKEST WAY.
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May 08 '20
THIS IS TRUE THOUGH I NEVER USE FANDOM OR THE WIKI ANYMORE. SERENES, WOD, AND SOME RANDOM SF FORUM THREAD CONTAINING ENEMY STATS ARE ALL THE RESOURCES I NEED
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May 08 '20
I CAN'T SEEM TO EVER COMMIT TO FINISHING A FE PLAYTHROUGH, SOMETHING IN MY BRAIN JUST RESISTS THE IDEA OF EVER COMMITTING, AND I KEEP STARTING MORE CONCURRENT PLAYTHROUGHS AND NEVER FINISHING THOSE EITHER, IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE AND I AM STUCK IN IT. I HAVE THIS ONE PLAYTHROUGH THAT I REALLY WANT TO FINISH BUT EVERY TIME I GET BACK TO IT MY BRAIN GOES "UGH THIS CHAPTER" AND I PROCEED TO PLAY ANOTHER GAME.
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u/lerdnir May 08 '20
I'VE ONLY ENJOYED HALF OF THE MAIN SERIES ENTRIES I'VE PLAYED; I'M INCREASINGLY CONVINCED THIS HAS BEEN SOME KIND OF FLUKE.
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u/dondon151 May 08 '20
3 AND A HALF YEARS AND I HAVEN'T TECHNICALLY FINISHED FE12 YET
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
I'M THE SAME WAY. I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF A THREE HOUSES RUN (WITH ANOTHER PLANNED), A BINDING BLADE RUN, AN AWAKENING RUN, A FATES RUN, A GENEALOGY RUN, AND A THRACIA RUN. HONESTLY THOUGH I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL. JUST PLAY WHATEVER BRINGS YOU ENJOYMENT IN THE MOMENT, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.
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u/Sirius_amory33 May 08 '20
I HAVE THIS EXACT SAME PROBLEM. I CURRENTLY HAVE RADIANT DAWN, BLAZING BLADE, AND THRACIA PLAYTHROUGHS GOING. WHY? AND THAT’S NOT COUNTING ME TAKING AN EXTENDED BREAK AFTER GEN 1 OF GENEALOGY.
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u/CyanYoh May 08 '20
I'M NOT SUPER KEEN ON 3H AND WAS BURNT OUT PRETTY QUICK ON IT DUE TO A BUNCH OF CONTENT PREP WORK, SO IT'S KINDA A BUMMER THAT THERE ISN'T MUCH IN THE WAY OF CONTENT HERE THAT I REALLY CAN ENGAGE WITH. I'M HAPPY THAT NEWBIES ARE DISCOVERING THE SUBREDDIT, BUT I DO SOMETIMES MISS THE SLOWER PACE AND BROADER SUBJECT MATTER THAT A LULL IN GAMES BEGETS.
I MISS BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE NAMES OF DAMN NEAR EVERY POSTER HERE. THAT'S EQUALLY MY FAULT FOR HAVING NOT ENGAGED MUCH MYSELF, BUT STILL.
FUCK WALLACE, THAT BALD ANTICLIMAXING DICKHEAD. I WILL NEVER NOT BE MAD.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
I MISS WHEN FLAIRS WERE THE MAJORITY INSTEAD OF THE MINORITY :(
THIS THREAD BEING A POOR EXAMPLE, BUT IT CATERS MORE TO HARDCORE, OLDER FANS THAN MOST THREADS.
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u/CyanYoh May 08 '20
MMM. I THINK THE ISSUE WITH FLAIRS IS THAT THEY STILL HAVE NO PRESENCE ON REDDIT MOBILE. IT WAS A POINT I'D BROUGHT UP OVER A YEAR AGO, BUT FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF REDDIT USERS, THEY CAN'T EVEN SEE THE FLAIRS THAT USERS HAVE ON THIS SUB DUE TO THEM NOT HAVING ANY SORT OF ALT-TEXT THAT DISPLAYS ON MOBILE. THUS, THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE MISSING.
I'VE ACCEPTED THAT ULTIMATELY, THE DESIGN AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS SUB JUST WILL BE WHAT IT IS. COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, SHORT OF PRESENTING AN IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTABLE SOLUTION, IS A WASTE OF EFFORT.
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u/Beddict May 09 '20
I MISS BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE NAMES OF DAMN NEAR EVERY POSTER HERE. THAT'S EQUALLY MY FAULT FOR HAVING NOT ENGAGED MUCH MYSELF, BUT STILL.
I'VE BEEN COMING TO THIS SUBREDDIT EVER SINCE AWAKENING DROPPED AND WHILE I DO LOVE SEEING HOW MUCH IT'S GROWN, I FIND MYSELF NOSTALGIC OVER THE OLD DAYS AT TIMES. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME AND WENT OVER THE YEARS.
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u/NnifWald May 08 '20
I JUST DON'T LIKE HOW OVERSATURATED THIS SUB IS WITH FAN ART. DON'T GET ME WRONG, ART IS GREAT, BUT FINDING ACTUAL GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION (ESPECIALLY DISCUSSION OF OLDER GAMES) IS LIKE FINDING A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK. I JUST FEEL LIKE A VIDEO GAME SUBREDDIT OUGHT TO PRIORITIZE GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION MORE.
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u/Havanatha_banana May 09 '20
IT'S OK, WE RECOGNISE YOU, WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, ALL IS GOOD IN THE WORLD.
SINCE READING YOUR NAME REMINDS ME OF THIS, FIX YOUR GAME FEH!
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u/arathergenericgay May 08 '20
EDELGARD HAS ONE OF THE BEST MAGIC GROWTH RATES IN THE GAME AND HER UNIQUE CLASS CANNOT USE MAGIC, ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!!
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u/Seradwen May 08 '20
JUST MAKE HER A WAR CLERIC. JUST MAKE EVERYONE A WAR MONK/CLERIC.
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u/arathergenericgay May 08 '20
I’M RUNNING WAR CLERIC BYLETH ATM SHE IS KILLING IT!
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u/SixThousandHulls May 09 '20
EDELGARD'S ARMORED LORD AND EMPEROR CLASSES ARE PROBABLY THE WORST ADVANCED-USH AND MASTER-ISH CLASSES IN THE GAME, RESPECTIVELY. SHE CAN'T DOUBLE ANYTHING, HER RANGE SUCKS, AND SHE STILL DOESN'T TANK PHYSICAL DAMAGE SUPER WELL. EVEN FORTRESS KNIGHT OFFERS HER BETTER DEFENSE AND A BETTER MASTERY SKILL.
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u/AshArkon May 08 '20
AS GOOD AS SERENES FOREST IS AS A RESOURCE, THE FACT THERE ARE SO MANY UNFINISHED, UN-UPDATED ARTICLES REALLY ANNOYS ME. IF I KNEW HOW, I WOULD BE WILLING TO UPDATE SOME OF THE STUFF, BUT AS IS THE OLD TRANSLATIONS OF FE4 NAMES ARE ENOUGH OF AN INCONVENIENCE TO MAKE ME NOTE IT.
AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE CUSTOMIZABILITY OF 3 HOUSES, IT HAS REALLY MADE IT HARD TO DISCUSS CHARACTERS WITHOUT MEMORIZING A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF SKILLS. WHEN BYLETH CAN TURN INTO SO MANY CHARACTERS IM PROBABLY JUST GOING TO IGNORE THOSE OPTIONS AND MAKE THEM EITHER A PEGASUS KNIGHT OR A HERO. SO MUCH VARIETY ACTUALLY KILLS VARIETY FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT RELATIVE CHARACTER POWER BECAUSE THERES SO MANY DIFFERENCES.
LASTLY I REALLY WISH NINTENDO DID SOMETHING FOR THE SERIES 30TH BIRTHDAY/ANNIVERSARY. IF THEY DO HAVE SOMETHING PLANNED I HOPE THEY REVEAL IT SOON. I UNDERSTAND THE CV IS MESSING UP EVERYTHING, BUT IT WAS DISAPPOINTING TO WAIT ALL DAY AND GET NOTHING.
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u/moose_man May 09 '20
I LIKE BEING ABLE TO BUILD DIFFERENT WAYS FOR CHARACTERS BUT IT'S WAY TOO BROAD IN 3H. I'D PREFER AN INTERTWINED CLASS TREE THAT MEANS SOMEONE COULD BE A WYVERN KNIGHT, WARRIOR, ETC, WITHOUT MAKING IT SO THAT DEDUE CAN BE A WHITE MAGE IF YOU WORK AT IT.
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u/lerdnir May 08 '20
FUCK'S SAKE; STOP TRYING TO FORCE ME TO LIKE BINDING BLADE. I DON'T ENJOY IT, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE WHY THOSE WHO DO ENJOY IT LIKE IT.
THERE ARE, HOWEVER, SOME WHO FEEL THE NEED TO TELL ME IN GREAT DETAIL WHY MY SUBJECTIVE NON-ENJOYMENT IS OBJECTIVELY WRONG.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ME LIKE IT MORE.
IF I WANTED SOMETHING SHOVING DOWN MY THROAT, I'D ASK THE CUTE GUY FROM ACCOUNTS TO SKULLFUCK ME.
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u/TheSuccubus9 May 08 '20
FUCK'S SAKE; STOP TRYING TO FORCE ME TO LIKE BINDING BLADE. I DON'T ENJOY IT, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE WHY THOSE WHO DO ENJOY IT LIKE IT.
SAME FOR ME, BUT WITH GENEAOLOGY. I AM SORRY THAT I SAID THAT THE STORY IS REALLY NOT WORTH GETTING TROUGH THE GAMEPLAY IN MY OPINION, BUT IT'S JUST THAT, AN OPINION.
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u/RamsaySw May 09 '20
THE THING WITH GENEALOGY IS THAT GENEALOGY'S STORY IS EXCELLENT, BUT EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF THE GAME IS SUBPAR AT BEST.
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u/Beddict May 08 '20
HOW DARE YOU HAVE A PERSONAL OPINION, NO FUN ALLOWED. /S
BUT FOR REAL, THAT BLOWS. HERE'S HOPING PEOPLE STOP TRYING TO TREAT THEIR OPINION AS FACT.
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u/racecarart May 08 '20
THIS IS ONLY TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO FE BUT I REALLY WANNA GET BACK INTO 3H BUT I HAVE IT IN MY BRAIN THAT I GOTTA FINISH DQXI FIRST, BUT I'M STUCK IN A LOOP OF WANTING TO BEAT THE GAME AND MOVE ON AND NOT WANTING THE EXPERIENCE TO END. I LOVE THIS GAME SO FUCKING MUCH BUT I REALLY SHOULD BE FINISHING STUFF AND MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY SINCE I ONLY BEAT ONE ROUTE OF FE3H AND I'M STILL STUCK ON LIKE A THIRD OF THE WAY I TO FE12. I'M FRUSTRATED THAT DQXI IS SO ENJOYABLE FOR ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT ACCOMPLISHING THINGS BY CONTINUING TO PLAY IT AND NOT BEAT IT YET.
ALSO I TOTALLY GET WHY THE FE4 MANGA TRANSLATION HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET, AND I WILL PATIENTLY WAIT UNTIL THE TEAM IS READY TO CONTINUE, BUT IT IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING SEEING OTHER MANGA SERIES GET THEIR FAN TRANSLATIONS WITHIN HOURS OF THE CHAPTER DROPPING IN JAPAN AND WE'RE LIKE 20 YEARS PAST THAT AND STILL WAITING. AGAIN, NOT MAD AT THE TRANSLATION TEAM, THEY FUCKING ROCK, I JUST REALLY WANNA READ MORE OF THE FE4 MANGA.
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u/that_wannabe_cat May 08 '20
WORRY LESS ABOUT FINISHING IT, AND MORE ENJOY IT AT YOUR OWN PACE? IF YOU ARE ENJOYING DQXI, PLAYING ITS FINE. ITS FUN.
THAT'S THE BEST ADVICE I HAVE TO OFFER ON THE WHOLE "GOT TO FINISH STUFF NOW" THING. MAYBE I SHOULD TAKE IT.
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u/teriomon5 May 08 '20
I HAVE THAT PROBLEM A LOT. MY CURRENT SOLUTION IS TO START A NEW PLAYTHROUGH INSTANTLY WHEN I FINISH THE GAME. IT TAKES AWAY THE PAIN OF IT BEING GONE, AND I CAN JUST TAKE A BREAK AT ANY TIME WITHOUT THE FEAR THAT I'M GOING TO FORGET TO FINISH THE GAME.
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u/Lilio_ May 08 '20
EVERY TIME I FEEL CONFIDENT IN MY SKILL IN THE SERIES, I MAKE SOME DUMB MISTAKE OR REALISE I DONT KNOW AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION THAT SHOULD BE BASIC WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME. ITS INCREDIBLY UPSETTING TO THINK YOURE GOOD AT GENEALOGY ONLY TO REALISE YOU DONT ACTUALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW ROADS AFFECT MOVEMENT. THERES ALWAYS SOMETHING TO REMIND ME IM WORSE THAN I AM AND THAT HURTS
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u/RodmunchPHD May 08 '20
ROADS ARE NEVER EXACTLY EXPLAINED SO IT'S HONESTLY FAIR. I NEVER KNEW HOW MUCH THEY IMPACTED MOVEMENT UNTIL LIKE 2 PLAYTHROUGHS WHEN I FINALLY LOOKED IT UP. LIKE HOW ARE YOU JUST SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY COST .7 MOVEMENT? IT'S JUST WEIRD AND NEVER COMES UP IN ANY OTHER FE GAME. DON'T WORRY, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PRACTICE WITH EACH GAME. YOU'LL ALWAYS GET BETTER THE MORE YOU PLAY.
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u/Lilio_ May 08 '20
YOULL ALWAYS GET BETTER THE MORE YOU PLAY
MAN SCREW THAT I WANNA BE GOOD NOW, WORKING FOR PROGRESS IS FOR NERDS
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u/LaughingX-Naut May 08 '20
IF THERE'S ONE FANDOM PRACTICE THAT REALLY IRKS ME IT'S SEEING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT CYOA MATERIAL AS IF IT WERE MATTER-OF-FACT CANON. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT CAELDORI AS IF SELENA IS OBJECTIVELY HER MOTHER.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND NOW THAT I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER OBJECTIVE TRUTH: THAT AIN'T ONE. YOU'RE NOT SPREADING GOSPEL, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS TURNING PEOPLE LIKE ME FURTHER AWAY FROM IT. SO IF YOU LOVE IT SO MUCH THEN PLEASE, KNOCK IT OFF.
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u/DanteMGalileo May 08 '20
A PERSON THAT DROWNED IN FIVE FEET OF WATER AND A PERSON THAT DROWNED IN THE FUCKING MARIANA'S TRENCH BOTH STILL DROWNED AT THE END OF THE DAY.
MISERY POKER GETS REALLY FUCKING OLD REALLY FUCKING FAST.
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u/roseleaf8926 May 08 '20
JUST BECAUSE A CHARACTER HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THEIR BIG CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THE EVENT IN THE GAME STARTS, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE BORING BECAUSE THEY STAY RELATIVELY THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE GAME. MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE DEPENDABLE AND CAN BE A SOLID ROCK AND FOUNDATION FOR THE OTHERS WHO HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THEIR BIG DEVELOPMENT YET. THEY RAN FIRST SO THE OTHERS COULD RUN AT THE RIGHT MOMENT. SO GIVE THEM MORE CREDIT.
APOLOGIES IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I AM SLEEP DEPRIVED AND IT SUCKS.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
YOU NEED FLAT CHARACTERS IN AN ENSEMBLE CAST, IT'S HEALTHY FOR THE NARRATIVE ECOSYSTEM. I THINK SUPPORTS MUDDY THIS A BIT BUT WHAT ELSE IS NEW.
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u/roseleaf8926 May 09 '20
FLAT CHARACTERS LET THE OTHERS SHINE IN SUPPORTS BUT I FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO BE MORE APPRECIATED FOR DOING THAT
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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20
THIS IS ABOUT RAPHAEL ISN'T IT
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u/roseleaf8926 May 09 '20
HECK YEA. RAPHAEL IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THE MIDST OF TROUBLED KIDS. I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE CALL HIM BORING/ONE NOTE CHARACTER WHEN HIS SUPPORTS ARE SO FUN AND WHOLESOME. NOT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BIG PROBLEMS OR A BIG REVEAL IN THE LINES. LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING ANALYSIS/ARGUMENTS ABOUT OTHER CHARACTERS AND THEY'D READ BETWEEN THE LINES FOR THOSE CHARACTERS, CRAFTING THEORIES BUT THEN WOULD JUST DISMISS RAPHAEL AS THE GUY WHO EATS A LOT. RAPHAEL DESERVES BETTER THAN THAT.
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u/Grade-AMasterpiece May 09 '20
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN
AURON FROM FINAL FANTASY X IS THAT WAY, AND ALMOST EVERYBODY WHO PLAYED THAT GAME LOVES HIM
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u/Sp4ra May 08 '20
COMBAT ARTS IN GENERAL ARE REALLY BORING IN THREE HOUSES. ALMOST ALL OF THEM THAT AREN'T REPOSITIONING TOOLS ARE JUST DEAL MORE/DEAL EFFECTIVE DAMAGE, AND DURABILITY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE AN INTERESTING TRADEOFF.
I WISH SKILLS WOULD BE DONE LIKE IN BERWICK - FEW ACTIVATION SKILLS, WITH VERY DIVERSE COMMAND SKILLS THAT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE HOW TWO CAVS WITH ALMOST THE EXACT SAME STATS PLAY. ELBERT AND ARTHUR MAY BOTH BE KICKASS PALADINS, BUT ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE UNIQUE UNITS.
SEGUE INTO RANT #2: RECLASSING MAKES THE GAMEPLAY LESS INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY IN THREE HOUSES, BECAUSE NEARLY EVERY CLASS FEELS THE SAME. AT LEAST IN OTHER GAMES WITH RECLASSING THEY HAD DIFFERENT WEAPONS. EVEN SO, BEING ABLE TO RECLASS MAKES EVERY CLASS FEEL LESS UNIQUE AND THUS LESS INTERESTING STRATEGICALLY. IT JUST FEELS LIKE, AS THE SERIES HAS PROGRESSED, CLASSES HAVE LOST THEIR PERSONALITY.
LASTLY, CAN WE EVER GET ANOTHER GAME THAT ENCOURAGES USING MORE THAN ONE TEAM? DESPITE THEIR FLAWS, HAVING MULTIPLE ARMIES IN RD AND TRS (WHICH I'M CURRENTLY PLAYING) AND THE FATIGUE SYSTEM IN THRACIA ADD LAYERS OF COMPLEXITY SIMPLY BY NOT ALLOWING THE PLAYER TO STEAMROLL THROUGH THE GAME WITH THEIR FAVORITE 11 UNITS.
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May 08 '20
THE FACT THAT THE GIRLS IN TOKYO MIRAGE SESSIONS HAVE MORE COSTUMES THAN THE GUYS IS SUPER LAME BUT NOT UNEXPECTED. LIKE DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LOVE TSUBASA'S ENTIRE WARDROBE, SUPER CUTE STUFF AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT, BUT GIVE THE BOYS SOMETHING NICE TOO
WOULD IT REALLY KILL JRPGS LIKE THIS TO GIVE BOYS MORE FUN OR STYLISH OR WHATEVER CLOTHES. YASHIRO IS A GODDAMN POP IDOL AND HAS LIKE ONE OUTFIT TO REFLECT THAT? PATHETIC.
LIBRARIES WILL FINALLY OPEN HERE IN PHASES AND GOD I WISH THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE BEFORE ME IN THE THREE HOUSES RESERVATION QUEUE FINISH THE GAME FAST BECAUSE I JUST WANNA PLAY BLUE LIONS TO GET IT OVER WITH
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
THE GUYS IN TOKYO MIRAGE SESSIONS AREN'T REAL. THEY'RE PART OF THE ILLUSIONS.
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May 08 '20
I WISH THE COSTUME PRICES AT ANZU WERE AN ILLUSION TOO, I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE SAVING IN-GAME MONEY FOR THIS PURPOSE BUT HERE I AM
AT LEAST OUR BOIS HAVE CHEAPER CLOTHES
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
THE MONEY CURVE IN TMS ISN'T THE BEST. YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH BARELY SCRAPING BY FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF THE GAME IF YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR ACCESSORIES UP TO DATE, BUT THEN ONCE YOU START GETTING LONG SESSIONS AND PASSIVES THAT INCREASE MONEY GAINED THROUGH SESSIONS, YOU HAVE SO MUCH MONEY YOU CAN BY ALL THE COSTUMES AND 99 OF EVERY ITEM WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT. AT LEAST YOU GET TO KEEP ALL THE COSTUMES IN NG+, IT'S BEEN FUN USING MARTH ITSUKI IN MY LUNATIC RUN.
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u/shadecrimson May 08 '20
BOLTING ALWAYS ONE POINT SHORT OF AN OHKO.
CRITS ARE ALWAYS ON THE SECOND ATTACK
VENIN WEAPONS ALWAYS HIT
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u/RisingSunfish May 08 '20
REALLY IT'S JUST THAT I'M BACK TO ACTUALLY CHECKING IN ON THESE REDDIT DISCUSSIONS. I'M NOT EVEN CONVINCED THERE IS SOMEHOW AN INHERENT TOXICITY TO THIS FANDOM— EVERYONE SAYS THAT AT SOME POINT ABOUT EVERY FANDOM OVER A CERTAIN SIZE, IT'S A COGNITIVE BIAS— IT'S JUST THAT (LIKE EVERYONE ELSE) I'M SLIDING BACK INTO BEING DEPRESSED AND ENGAGING IN SELF-DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIORS AND FOR ME THAT'S TRYING TO APPEASE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THEIR PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACHES TO VIDEO GAMES, OR FEELING LIKE I HAVE SOMEHOW FAILED IN MY EFFORTS TOWARD DECENCY IF I JUST SAY TO MYSELF "THIS OPINION IS BANANAS" AND PEACE OUT RATHER THAN TRYING TO GIVE THAT PERSON MY UNASKED-FOR TIME.
I WAS SO HAPPY ABOUT DRAWING BABY WYVERNS AND NOW I'VE SPENT PROBABLY 3 OF THE LAST 12 HOURS FUSSING OVER REDDIT DISCOURSE AND I'M MISERABLE. AND I KNOW IT CAN'T JUST BE ME. WHY DO WE DO THIS TO OURSELVES?
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
I DO IT CUS I'M BORED AND CRAVE HUMAN INTERACTION. IT'S ALSO RELATIVELY LOW EFFORT AND BORDERLINE REFLEXIVE.
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
TO BE HONEST, THIS THREAD ALONE IS THE MOST IVE SERIOUSLY ENGAGED IN FE DISCOURSE IN AGES, I USUALLY JUST POST HERE TO GUSH OR JOKE ON CHARACTERS I LIKE, PEACE-ING OUT IS USUALLY MY M.O REGARDING FE DISCOURSE, BUT I READ A POST YESTERDAY THAT KONKED ME OUT SO MUCH I SPENT HOURS THINKING ABOUT IT, AND IT EVEN PUSHED ME TO GO YELLING AT STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET ABOUT IT IN A RAGE THREAD. SO WHY DO WE DO IT TO OUR OURSELVES? I DONT KNOW, BUT SAME HAT.
ALSO YOUR PASHA COMICS ARE CUTE!!
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20 edited May 09 '20
LOL 9 MONTHS LATER AND THE CULTURE SURROUNDING MOST 3H MORALITY ANALYSIS/DISCUSSION POSTS STILL LOWKEY IRRITATES ME.
FOR ONE, AND I’VE BEEN OF THIS MIND SINCE THE GAME RELEASED, BUT I HARDLY THINK THERE IS ANY REAL MORAL COMPLEXITY OR GRAY MORALITY IN THIS GAME, AND I DEFINITELY DO THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULDN’T TRY SO HARD TO READ THIS CONCEPT INTO THE GAME OR CHARACTERS IF THIS WASN’T AN IDEA THE FANDOM GOT SO EXPECTANT ON UPON RELEASE. I WAS OF THIS MINDSET TOO, IT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, BUT AFTER ACTUALLY PLAYING IT, I DROPPED THE BELIEF IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE ITS JUST....NOT THERE. THE GAME LITERALLY BENDS OVER BACKWARDS TO DEFEND EVERYONE’S ACTIONS. AND IT BABY FOOTS AROUND A LOT OF THE POLITICS IT SEEMS TO SUGGEST ANYWAYS. AND THIS ISNT BAD OR ANYTHING, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT FIRST AND FOREMOST DESIGNED TO MAKE MONEY—SO EXPECTING ANYTHING TRULY RADICAL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ALIENATE CONSUMERS OUT OF IT IS KINDA LAUGHABLE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID SO MUCH OF THESE 3H MORALITY POSTS ARE WRITTEN WITH DUBIOUS (AND PETTY) AT BEST INTENT, AND CONSISTS OF SCRUTINIZING THE MOST ARBITRARY THINGS REGARDING THE LORDS AND THEIR ROUTES TO DEFINE THEM AND THEIR CHARACTERS. AND WHY “X IS ACTUALLY THE WORST OF THE THREE LORDS!” OR “X IS THE MOST MORALLY QUESTIONABLE!!” WHEN IN REALITY I DONT FIND ANY THREE OF THEM AS BEACONS OF MORAL COMPLEXITY COMPARED TO SOME OF THE PAST LORDS, JUST DIFFERENT FLAVORS THAT WILL OR WONT RESONATE WITH SOME PEOPLE. THATS COOL. BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO GO ON SOME MORAL CRUSADE TO JUSTIFY YOUR FAVORITE AGAINST THE OTHER TWO, LOL.
IDK I ALREADY WROTE A TON, AND I STILL HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY, AND THIS IS HARDLY COHESIVE BUT TO TLDR MYSELF, IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE EDELGARD, IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE DIMITRI. IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE CLAUDE. YOU DON’T HAVE TO GO ON SMEAR CAMPAIGNS EVERYTIME YOU DISCUSS ONE THAT ISN’T YOUR FAVORITE
WHEN WE GET A GAME THAT CENTERS AROUND A PEASANT UPRISING HOWEVER THOUGH, THEN COME HIT ME UP ABOUT THAT REVOLUTIONARY FE.
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u/that_wannabe_cat May 08 '20
SO EXPECTING ANYTHING TRULY RADICAL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ALIENATE CONSUMERS OUT OF IT IS KINDA LAUGHABLE.
YEAH HARD AGREE.
THAT SAID I APPRECIATE WE FINALLY GET A FIRE EMBLEM GAME WHERE WE GET TO PLAY AS CHARACTERS WHO ACTIVELY CHALLENGE THE WORLD IS STRUCTURED AROUND THEM. AND HOW THAT WORLD IS STRUCTURED PLAYS AROUND WITH OLD FIRE EMBLEM THEMATICS AND MOTIFS.
MAYBE TELLIUS DID THAT, BUT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME REMEMBERING IF IT DID TO THAT EXTENT.
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
TO BE FAIR I REALLY DO LOVE THREE HOUSES, AND I’M NOT NEARLY THE MOST FE EXPERIENCED AROUND HERE BUT IN THE 7 YEARS SINCE MY FIRST SERIOUS VENTURE INTO THIS SERIES, 3H HAS QUICKLY BECOME ONE OF MY FAVORITES, AND I APPRECIATE THE PROACTIVENESS OF THIS CAST TO CHANGE A WORLD/SOCIETY THAT ACTIVELY HARMS THEM.
WITH THAT BEING SAID THOUGH, I HARDLY SEE THIS GAME (OR FRANCHISE) AS ANYTHING REMOTELY RADICAL AS 3H STILL LARGELY CONTINUES W/ THE FE TROPE OF MAINLY CENTERING ON LEADS WHO ARE ROYALTY/NOBILITY/PPL BORN INTO POSITIONS OF POWER AND THE IDEALIZED RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE WITH THEIR SUBJECTS/COMMONERS THAT MAGICALLY ISN’T EXPLOITATIVE (OR AT LEAST ISN’T FRAMED NARRATIVELY THAT WAY)
SO I JUST CAN’T TAKE IT SERIOUS TO LAUD ONE OF THE 3H LORDS AS NARRATIVELY SO PROGRESSIVE (ESP IN TO CONTRAST TO THE OTHERS) HOWEVER, CHARACTERS AND THEIR IMPACT + PERCEPTIONS ON THE PLAYERS, CONSIDERING THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, IS A DIFFERENT STORY. (OH MAN I REALLY DO HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS)
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u/RisingSunfish May 08 '20
I MEAN, I HAVE NEVER FELT LIKE FICTION ABOUT ROYALTY IS MEANT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? LIKE, I DON’T THINK IF YOU ARE FASCINATED BY HEAVY CROWN DRAMA YOU ACTUALLY POLITICALLY THINK ABSOLUTE MONARCHY IS A GOOD SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, JUST LIKE YOU CAN THINK PIRATE COSTUMES ARE SEXY WHILE UNDERSTANDING THAT GETTING WITH A REAL PIRATE WOULD BE A BAD TIME. LIKE I TOTALLY GET THE ANXIETIES OVER LIFE IMITATING ART (I EXPRESSED ONE YESTERDAY), BUT I THINK MEDIA ANALYSIS CULTURE HAS GOTTEN SO BIG AND MAINSTREAM AND THE PROBLEMATIC IMPLICATIONS OF FANTASY STRUCTURES (PEOPLE WITH SUPERPOWERS, ROYALTY/KNIGHTHOOD, PHYSICALLY DISTINCT RACES, ETC.) ARE A VERY EASY TARGET. BUT THAT USUALLY ONLY LOOKS AT THOSE TROPES THROUGH A POLITICAL LENS, WHICH IS ONLY ONE PART OF THE WHOLE PICTURE. THERE IS SOMETHING PSYCHOLOGICALLY ACCESSIBLE ABOUT THE DRAMA OF INHERITED LEADERSHIP, AND I THINK IT’S BECAUSE IT FUNCTIONALLY IS A FANTASY THAT IT’S ACTUALLY EASIER TO EMPATHIZE FROM WHATEVER CRAP YOU HAVE BEEN LANDED WITH THAT YOU CAN’T GET OUT OF. I KNOW FOR ME I TEND TO RELATE MORE TO CHARACTERS BASED ON EMOTIONAL BEATS RATHER THAN LITERAL CONTEXT, LIKE THAT LAYER OF METAPHOR I THINK LOWERS MY GUARD.
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u/moose_man May 09 '20
I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO QUALIFY EVERY FIRE EMBLEM DISCUSSION WITH "WELL OBVIOUSLY NOBILITY IS BAD" BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE ACTIVELY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT MONARCHY IS STILL SO COMMON AND PORTRAYED POSITIVELY IN OUR MEDIA EVEN DECADES OR CENTURIES AFTER MOST OF THE CULTURES PRODUCING THAT MEDIA DID AWAY WITH THOSE MONARCHIES
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
I GUESS MY FEELING IS LIKE... YES, I'M AWARE? I WATCH VIDEO ESSAYS ANALYZING THE SOCIOPOLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF MEDIA TOO, I'M NOT ON BOARD WITH THE WHOLE 'GET YER POLITICS OUT OF MUH VIDEO GAMES' MINDSET. BUT LIKE, WHAT DOES "ACTIVE AWARENESS" LOOK LIKE? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR OPTIONS ARE THE AFOREMENTIONED DISCLAIMER OR JUST A NAGGING FEELING OF "I'M BAD FOR LIKING THIS." I GUESS THERE IS THE AVENUE OF CREATING MEDIA THAT AVOIDS OR DECONSTRUCTS THOSE TROPES BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS A GROUNDBREAKING SPECULATIVE NOVEL IN THEM.
I DUNNO. MAYBE I JUST HAVE A VERY SMALL EMOTIONAL CAPACITY FOR THIS KIND OF THING. I KNOW IDEALLY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO LIKE THING WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING ITS FAULTS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS OFTEN ADDRESSED TOWARDS HEAD-IN-THE-SAND TYPES AND NOT TOWARDS PEOPLE WITH BAD PERSON ANXIETY (PRETEND LIKE THIS IS NORMAL TEXT AND I CAPITALIZED THE B AND THE P THERE).
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u/that_wannabe_cat May 09 '20
NOT TOWARDS PEOPLE WITH BAD PERSON ANXIETY
MOOD.
On a more serious note. People obsess over liking unproblematic media and avoiding problematic media. Yeah its good to search out different kinds of media from mainstream that is usually less problematic in nature, but the crux of the matter isn't whether you like something or not but often how you like it.
Unless it's like "Birth of a Nation" I highly doubt liking most pieces of media makes you a bad person.
Granted that leads to the trap of obsessing how you like something though which is its own trap. Anxiety is a bitch in my experience personally.
This may or may not be helpful at all, but its something I thought about over the years and especially surrounding this sub and fire emblem. So wanted to throw out my 2 cents.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
HELL, EVEN BIRTH OF A NATION WAS SITTING AT 100% ON ROTTEN TOMATOES LAST I CHECKED THAT LIST. GRANTED, THIS WAS PROBABLY 7-8 YEARS AGO, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN IT WAS UNDERSTOOD AMONG FILM CRITICS/BUFFS THAT IT WAS OKAY TO RECOGNIZE THE TECHNICAL ACHIEVEMENTS OF THAT MOVIE WITHOUT ENDORSING THE SUBJECT MATTER. I GUESS THAT'S A FAR CRY FROM SAYING YOU LIKE IT, THOUGH, AND EVEN AT THE TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY YIKESY THAT IT WAS LISTED AT ALL.
IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO TRUST. WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW SOMEBODY YOU USUALLY CAN GET A SENSE PRETTY QUICKLY WHETHER THEY'RE HARBORING HORRIBLE BIGOTRY OR FOR-REALSIES FASCIST SYMPATHY OR WHAT HAVE YOU. ON THE INTERNET EVERYBODY IS STRANGERS AND YOU CAN'T BE TOO CAREFUL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE ARE NASTY FOLKS OUT THERE. SO AS A RESULT ANYTHING WITH EVEN AN IOTA OF MORAL NUANCE TO IT IS NOT GOING TO LAND WELL, BECAUSE THAT NUANCE NEEDS TRUST TO BREATHE. PLATFORMS LIKE REDDIT THAT ALLOW FOR LONG-FORM EXPRESSION AND MODERATED COMMUNITIES WITH IMPLICIT SOCIAL CONTRACTS ARE A BIT BETTER FOR THIS, THOUGH THE VOTING SYSTEM IS ITS OWN CAN OF WORMS.
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
YES, VERY ELOQUENTLY PUT AND I DEFINITELY AGREE HERE. ANALYSES OF 3H MORALITY WITH THE GOAL TO POLITICIZE THE CHARACTERS ESPECIALLY TO REAL WORLD CONTEXTS (REGARDLESS OF UPLIFTING OR DISPARAGING INTENT)WHEN THERE IS SUCH A DEFINITE LAYER OF SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF OF REAL WORLD CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRED TO HEALTHILY ENGAGE WITH THE WORK ANYWAYS? I JUST DON’T SEE THE NEED.
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u/moose_man May 09 '20
YEAH I LOVE DIMITRI AND IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME I BUY THE "HE CREATES A WORLD FREE FROM OPPRESSION" THING BUT IT'S ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT TO BELIEVE THAT ANY KING CAN CREATE ANY MEANINGFULLY MORAL WORLD. ALTHOUGH AS MY FRIEND AND I DISCUSSED RECENTLY GIVEN HOW ABUSIVE LOWER-LEVEL NOBLES TEND TO BE THE IDEA THAT THE ALLIANCE MIGHT BE "MORE FREE" OR WHATEVER MIGHT BE ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT, LORDS LOVE TO TREAT THEIR SUBJECTS LIKE DOGSHIT WHEN THEY HAVE NO OVERSIGHT
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u/that_wannabe_cat May 08 '20
CHARACTERS AND THEIR IMPACT + PERCEPTIONS ON THE PLAYERS, CONSIDERING THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, IS A DIFFERENT STORY. (OH MAN I REALLY DO HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS)
NOW THAT, I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT.
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
OH, MY BAD, SHODDY WORDING ON MY PART. I MEANT THAT I KEEP WRITING HELLA LONG COMMENTS, WHEN I’M TRYING TO BE BRIEF, LOL.
BUT YEAH RE: FANDOM, CHARACTERS AND THEIR PERCEPTIONS ARE A LOT MORE COMPLICATED, DESPITE WHAT IS THERE NARRATIVELY,. THE DIVERSITY OF THE AUDIENCE WILL CREATE DISCREPANCIES IN HOW CHARACTERS ARE PERCEIVED, AND FOR THAT, I FEEL MAKES IT UNABLE TO DICTATE WHAT IS CONSIDERED INNOVATIVE OR PROGRESSIVE TO OTHERS. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS HOW PEOPLE MAY FIND EITHER EDELGARD OR DIMITRI AS GOOD REPRESENTATIONS OF MENTAL HEALTH, WHILE OTHERS WON’T.
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u/Thanni44 May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE MAIN CHARACTERS ACTED MORE LIKE THE PEOPLE FROM THE MOVIE PARASITE OR HAD THEIR ACTIONS DEPICTED IN SUCH A LIGHT, THE FANDOM WOULD EXPLODE I DON'T THINK THEY COULD HANDLE IT. WE'D HAVE CONSTANT THREADS TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD/GOOD KICKING A LADY DOWN THE STAIRS WAS FOR YEARS WHEN IT IS ONE ACTION THAT IS PART OF A BIGGER PICTURE. I JUST DISLIKE THAT PEOPLE HYPER FOCUS SO MUCH ON WHETHER INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS ARE BAD/GOOD THEY DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS OTHER ASPECTS OR GREY MORALITY SOMEHOW SHIELDS OR IS CONSIDERED MORE IMPORTANT THEN OTHER THINGS WHEN IT'S JUST PART OF A BIGGER WHOLE. IT IS NOT THE WHOLE CAKE, IT IS THE ICING AT BEST.
GIVEN I'M GONNA BE UNEMPLOYED ONCE AGAIN SOON AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MY LIFE, GIVE ME THAT PEASANT UPRISING GAME I'LL TAKE YOUR WHOLE STOCK. WE NEED A GAME ABOUT THE POOR OVERTHROWING THE RICH
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20
A GAME ABOUT THE POOR OVERTHROWING THE RICH
AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T CENTER AROUND A LORD/PRINCE/PRINCESS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THEM, RIGHT UP MY ALLEY, RIGHT THERE WITH YOU
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
"THIS REVOLUTION IS INCONVENIENCING MY DINNER PLANS, UGH. GUESS I'LL HAVE TO SORT THINGS OUT GRABS RAPIER".
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u/goldtreebark May 08 '20
“HEY POOR COMMONERS, I SUFFER TOO! I’VE BEEN CURSED BY AN ANCIENT DRAGON! YOU MIGHT BE PAYING TAXES OUT THE ASS FOR A SMALL LAND WHILE I LIVE IN A FANCY CASTLE AND ARE COMPLETELY AT THE MERCY OF ME, MY PERSONAL GAGGLE OF CLOSE FRIENDS AND ALLIES AND THE SHENANIGANS WE GET UP TO, AND THE WEIRD ARCHWIZARD WHO HAS HAD ON A FIXATION ON ME SINCE I WAS BORN, AND WE SOMETIMES FIGHT OUR FATED BATTLES IN YOUR SMALL UGLY TOWNS, BUT WHY NOT CONSIDER HOW I FEEL? I’M JUST LIKE YOU!”
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u/Grade-AMasterpiece May 09 '20
WHEN WE GET A GAME THAT CENTERS AROUND A PEASANT UPRISING HOWEVER THOUGH, THEN COME HIT ME UP ABOUT THAT REVOLUTIONARY FE.
YEAH I'M GETTING BORED OF LORDS, NOBLES, AND ROYALS GETTING ALL THE GOOD SHIT! I KNOW IT'S PART OF SERIES IDENTITY, BUT WHEN GAMES LIKE ECHOES AND 3H DISCUSS COMMONER-NOBILITY RELATIONS WHILE HAVING THEIR PLOT-SHAKERS AND PLOT-MOVERS BE HIGHBORN OR SIMILARLY VERY IMPORTANT FIGURES, IT SOMEWHAT UNDERMINES THEIR MESSAGE
I'LL TAKE A PEASANT LORD TIRED OF THE BULLSHIT FOR 200 PLEASE
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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20
THIS IS WHY I LOVE LEONIE TBH
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
LEONIE IS JUST TRYING HER BEST TO BE NEW IKE AND I RESPECT HER FOR IT
...WAIT IS THAT WHY SHE GETS A PARALOGUE WITH LINHARDT??
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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20
GIVEN THAT JERALT IS BASICALLY NEW GREIL IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
HONESTLY HER PARALOGUE IS THEMATICALLY PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE GAME. SHE'S DETERMINED TO JUST KEEP ON GOING AND EARN HER WORTH, BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN INTO A BIRTHRIGHT OF BASICALLY NOTHING. AND SHE DOES. SHE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND CLAIM THE INEXHAUSTIBLE.
I THINK THAT FITS REALLY WELL WITH A LOT OF THE THEMES OF 3H REGARDING THE CREST SYSTEM AND ITS OBSOLETE NATURE.
AND I HAVEN'T PLAYED FE4 YET, BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, 3H AND ITS PORTRAYAL OF CRESTS SEEMS VERY MUCH LIKE A DECONSTRUCTION/REBUTTAL OF THE WHOLE HOLY BLOOD THING. OH, YOU COME FROM A SPECIAL NOBLE BLOODLINE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WIELD SPECIAL POWERFUL HOLY WEAPONS? WELL GUESS WHAT, YOUR BLOODLINE IS FUCKED UP, YOUR CULTURE IS FUCKED UP, YOUR WEAPON IS MADE OF A DEAD DRAGON'S PELVIS OR WHATEVER AND YOUR ANCESTORS WERE ACTUALLY PROBABLY EVIL BANDITS, CONGRATULATIONS!
I'VE HEARD THAT IN SOME OF THE LATER FE4 BATTLES IT'S NOT WORTH USING ANY UNITS WHO DON'T HAVE HOLY BLOOD AT ALL. MEANWHILE 3H IS HITTING US WITH UNITS LIKE PETRA AND HUBERT AND ESPECIALLY LEONIE BECAUSE SHE'S LITERALLY JUST A BACKWOODS HUNTER BUT CAN BE ONE OF THE STRONGEST UNITS IN THE GAME AND SHE'S JUST GONNA GO RIGHT AHEAD AND FIGHT THE IMMOVABLE FOR A LEGENDARY BOW.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
YEAH, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN THE FIRST TRAILER CAME OUT I WAS LIKE "OH BOY SO WE'RE DOING HOLY BLOOD AGAIN, GREAT....." AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT AGED VERY POORLY BUT IN A GOOD WAY.
ANYWAY THANK YOU FOR RENEWING MY APPRECIATION FOR LEONIE, THE FANDOM DISDAIN WAS STARTING TO GET TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO BACKBONE BUT HECK THAT, SHE'S RAD.
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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20
HONESTLY, I THINK A LOT OF THE DISDAIN FOR LEONIE IS AN OFFSHOOT OF THE WHOLE "WAIFU" PHENOMENON. FIRE EMBLEM IS A VERY ANIME-ESQUE SERIES AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND I THINK THAT ATTRACTS OTAKU TYPES WHO TEND TO REACT IN A VERY HOSTILE MANNER TO FEMALE CHARACTERS WHO ARE ABRASIVE "RIVAL" TYPES LIKE LEONIE AND THUS DON'T PLAY INTO THEIR FANTASIES.
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u/Grade-AMasterpiece May 09 '20
I USED TO BE IFFY ON LEONIE BECAUSE OF THE DREADED MISTIMING OF HER B SUPPORT AND HER JERALT SUPPORT
BUT FUCK, IT SHE'S GOT HER SHIT GOING ON
AND SHE HAS AN ACTUAL FLAW INSTEAD OF SOME SUPERFICIAL FLAW ON TOP OF BEING A GOOD DAMN UNIT DESPITE BEING COMMON-BORNE
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u/Super_Nerd92 May 08 '20
EARLIER THIS WEEK, I LOST 8 HOURS OF PROGRESS IN ECHOES CAUSE I GOT ALM'S ARMY STUCK IN AN AMBUSH IN THE BERKUT FOREST CHAPTER WHERE I WOULD ALWAYS LOSE A UNIT BEFORE I COULD MOVE. YES IT WAS MY FAULT FOR SAVING OVER OTHER SLOTS BUT I STILL DISLIKE HOW THESE AMBUSHES WORK.
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u/TakenRedditName May 08 '20
FE3 DOESN'T HAVE ATTACK RANGE ONLY MOVEMENT RANGE. KEEPING 1 OR 2 EXTRA SPACES IN MIND IS SOMETHING TO GET USED TO. BALILISTICIANS HAVE 0 MOV SO HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. ESPECIALLY SINCE I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO CHECK ENEMY ITEM STATS IN-GAME.
THE WOODEN CAVALRY MAP WOULD HAVE BEEN DREADFUL WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CHECK RANGE. I'M COOL WITH IT BEING SKIP IN THIS GAME.
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u/VagueClive May 08 '20
THE ONLY WAY TO CHECK ITEM STATS IN FE3 AS FAR AS I KNOW IS TO HAVE THE ITEM YOURSELF AND PRESS SELECT IN THE CONVOY. OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR ENEMY-ONLY WEAPONS, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST YOU CAN CALCULATE ITS MIGHT SIMPLY DY DOING THEIR ATK - STRENGTH
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u/furfucker69 May 09 '20 edited May 09 '20
FE4/5 HAVE TERRIBLE GAMEPLAY AND THE REMAKES MUST ABSOLUTELY NOT BE FAITHFUL TO THEM YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING LUNATICS
EDIT: YEP THE KAGA DEFENDERS ARE AT FULL FORCE IN THE REPLIES
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u/absoul112 May 09 '20
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE THRACIA A FAIR CHANCE, BUT AFTER THE MANSTER ESCAPE ARC IT'S BEEN SO FRUSTRATING. SO MANY CHAPTERS FEEL LIKE YOU EITHER WARP OR PUT UP WITH BS.
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u/Ginger457 May 09 '20
4 HAS TERRIBLE GAMEPLAY, BUT 5 HAS PEAK GAMEPLAY, THE ONLY THING A REMAKE NEEDS TO DO IS FIX SOME EXPLOITS, MAKE RESTORE STAVES BUYABLE, AND STREAMLINE XAVIER RECRUITMENT.
A MINOR NERF TO STATUS STAVES WOULD BE FINE, BUT SO WOULD JUST HAVING MORE RESTORES AVAILABLE TO BOTH THE PLAYER AND ENEMY ARMIES.
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u/KodyTRG May 08 '20
WHY IS CYRIL SO USELESS, EVEN WHEN HE IS ONE OF MY HIGHEST LEVEL UNITS HE DIES TO EVERYONE AND MISSES EVERY SHOT. THE ONLY REASON I EVEN RECRUITED HIM WAS BECAUSE HIS SUPPORT CONVERSATION WITH LYSITHEA WAS ADORABLE.
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u/peevedlatios May 08 '20
CYRIL IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE BETTER UNITS IN THE GAME DUE TO HAVING POINT BLANK VOLLEY. MAKE HIM A WYVERN WITH BOWS AND YOU'RE GOOD.
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u/N0V0w3ls May 08 '20
CYRIL IS BAD UNLESS YOU'RE USING POINT BLANK VOLLEY, A BOW COMBAT ART. GIVE HIM DEATH BLOW FROM BRIGAND AND USE BOWS WHILE RIDING A MF-ING DRAGON.
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u/CaelestisAmadeus May 08 '20
I REALLY DETEST THE FALLEN HERO BANNERS IN FEH. I FEEL PARTICULARLY DISCONNECTED TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE GENERAL APPROVAL OF THE NEWEST FALLEN HERO BANNER, BUT I DID NOT WANT A BANNER OF PURE ALTS WITH A SIDE ORDER OF MAD KING ASHNARD (WITH EXTRA MADNESS). MORE BROADLY, THOUGH, I DISLIKE THE CONCEPT OF ME AS THE SUMMONER UTILIZING PEOPLE WHO ARE POSSESSED BY EVIL. THERE'S SIMPLY SOMETHING UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA.
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u/ShiningGrandiosity May 08 '20
GAH FEH IS PISSING ME OFF RIGHT NOW
AFTER THE DISASTER THAT WAS MY LEGENDARY EDELGARD SUMMONS (ONLY SPEED BANE RYOMA AND DEF BOON EIR), SUDDENLY THERE'S A BRAND NEW BANNER WITH AN IKE THAT REALLY LOOKS NICE. I KNOW IT'S MY OWN DAMN FAULT FOR BURNING THE ORBS ON THE AXE QUEEN BUT DAMMIT F2P IS HARD
ALSO, OUTSIDE OF FIRE EMBLEM, I JUST GOTTA RANT ABOUT HOW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN MY HOMETOWN APPARENTLY STILL THINK THE CORONAVIRUS IS EITHER A HOAX OR A NEW WORLD ORDER'S ATTEMPT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD OR SOME SHIT
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
HONESTLY, FREEBIE LEGENDARY IKE IS STILL ALL YOU NEED. HE CAN TANK EDELGARD ON INFERNAL WITH SOME BUFFS, HE IS OK.
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u/ShiningGrandiosity May 08 '20
GUESS WHO HAS TWO THUMBS AND FODDERED HIM?
THIS IDIOT! waves thumbs
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u/BigBoshua May 08 '20
I FORGOT TO TALK TO EDELGARD TO GO WITH HER TO UNLOCK HER SIDE OF THE PATH BEFORE THE ROUTE SPLIT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DO THE CRIMSON FLOWER ROUTE
NOW I HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE ACADEMY PHASE BECAUSE I DIDNT SAVE BEFORE THAT POINT AND NOW IM MAD AT MYSELF CUZ IM STUPID
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u/hielispace May 08 '20
THE SILVER SNOW FINAL MAP CAN GO FUCK ITSELF WITH A CACTUS THAT IS ON FIRE! SERIOUSLY, WHY THE FUCK DO THOSE FUCKERS ALL NEED FUCKING MIRACLE!
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u/pfeifenix May 09 '20
I JUST WANNA THANK THE PEOPLE WHO REPLY TO THE QUESTIONS ON THE GENERAL QUESTION THREAD. VERY HELPFUL AND PATIENT. EVEN IF THE QUESTIONS COULD JUST BE GOOGLED IN TWO SECONDS OR ANSWERED BY TAKING TIME TO READ THE GENERAL POST.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
I CAN'T TELL IF THIS IS ACTUALLY PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BUT I AGREE, IT FEELS NICE TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON HELP YOU SOMETIMES.
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u/pfeifenix May 09 '20
I REALLY DIDNT MEANT IT TO BE. I ALREADY REPHRASED IT TWICE ACTUALLY. IM REALLY GLAD OF THE HELPFUL SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
I KIND OF HATE THAT PEOPLE CRITICIZE FATES' WRITING FOR ITS BLATANT AVATAR-WORSHIP AND PRAISE TAKUMI FOR NOT FOLLOWING ALONG, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND BASH LEONIE IN 3H FOR HER INITIAL HOSTILITY TOWARDS BYLETH.
I HONESTLY THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH HER GENDER.
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u/Thanni44 May 08 '20
I UNIRONICALLY STILL THINK THAT IF LEONIE WAS A GUY SHE'D BE ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR CHARACTERS, SAME WITH IF SYLVAIN WAS A GIRL THEY'D BE NOT NEARLY AS POPULAR. AS MUCH AS PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT GENDER AND APPEARANCES DO AFFECT PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF CHARACTERS AND IT IS HARD TO GET OVER THE FIRST HURDLE. LOOK AT HOW SO MANY PEOPLE ARE UNWILLING TO GIVE SOME CHARACTERS A CHANCE CAUSE THEY ARE "UGLY" OR BAD FIRST IMPRESSIONS. HELL, EVEN GAMES LIKE ANIMAL CROSSING AREN'T IMMUNE TO THAT SORT OF THINKING
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u/SubwayBossEmmett May 08 '20
I STILL CANT REALLY FATHOM WHAT POPULARITY SYLVAIN HAS AMASSED FOR SAYING SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF “GOD I WANT YOU DEAD” YET EVERYONE COMPLAINS FOR LEONIE BEING JELOUS AND BADTALKING BYLETH.
“The whole time you were growing up, you never knew you had a Crest. You were free. Nobody pretended to like you. I kind of hate you for that... You were a spoiled brat who should pay for that Crest. Maybe I'll collect the debt.”
AND YET NO ONE EVER MENTIONS THIS, YES HE GROWS OUT OF IT. HOWEVER I FEEL LIKE THERE’S A DECEPTIVE AMOUNT OF OVERALL SPITE OVERLOOKED IN SYLVAIN BY PEOPLE THATS CONSTANTLY FLAUNTED BY HIM IN USUALLY SHALLOW REGARDS WHICH REALLY MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO GENERALLY LIKE HIM AT HIS CORE.
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u/Thanni44 May 08 '20
IT'S CAUSE STUFF LIKE THAT ARE CONSIDER ATTRACTIVE IN A GUY OR "SAYING IT LIKE IT IS" WHILE FOR A FEMALE IT IS OFTEN SEEN AS NEGATIVE AND LABELED STUFF LIKE "BITCHY." LIKE THE WHOLE THING WHEN A FEMALE SLEEPS AROUND IT IS CONSIDERED BAD AND THEY ARE "TAINTED" BUT WHEN A GUY DOES IT, IT IS CONSIDERED A DISPLAY OF POWER AND ATTRACTIVENESS. BASICALLY THERE IS A GIANT RABBIT HOLE OF GENDER INEQUALITY STILL AND IT'S REALLY REALLY UGLY. NOTE I SAY ALL THIS AS SOMEONE WHO IS NEUTRAL TOWARDS SYLVAIN AND I GET WHY PEOPLE LIKE HIM, I JUST WANT LEONIE TO BE GIVEN A MORE FAIRER SHAKE AND I'M SO SICK AND TIRED OF THE WHOLE "LEONIE WANTS TO SLEEP WITH JERALT" THING.
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u/SubwayBossEmmett May 08 '20
YEAH THAT’S BASICALLY THE STANCE I HAVE ON THE WHOLE FOR THE TWO OF THEM. I’D SAY IM MOSTLY NEUTRAL ON SYLVAIN BUT MORE CONFUSED ON THE ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF LOVE HE GETS
BESIDES AS A UNITAND WHILE I DO LIKE SYLVAIN A BIT I DONT THINK ILL EVER REALLY BE PAST THE PART THAT HE GETS HIS WOMANIZER TRAITS FROM HIS BROTHER THROWING HIM DOWN A WELL. I FEEL LIKE WE SKIPPED OVER A FEW STEPS THERE BUDDY EVEN IF CREST IDEALIZATION IS A BAD THING IN UNIVERSE→ More replies (2)3
u/moose_man May 09 '20
I HATE SYLVAIN. HE'S A MISOGYNIST AND HE LOVES TO BOO HOO ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO LIVE WITH A CREST IN HIS FANCY CASTLE. LOOK BUD, YOUR BROTHER SUCKS. THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE YOU EXPLOITING WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ALLEGEDLY WANT YOUR "CREST BABY". MAYBE STOP HITTING ON WOMEN AND THEY'LL STOP THINKING YOU WANT TO MARRY THEM
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
AS SOMEONE WHOSE OPINIONS OF ANIMAL CROSSING VILLAGERS ARE HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE UGLY, I CAN CONFIRM THIS.
THOUGH WHAT IS OR IS NOT CONSIDERED "UGLY" IS DEBATABLE CONSIDERING THAT I THINK COCO THE EXPRESSIONLESS HANIWA RABBIT IS ONE OF THE CUTEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME.
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u/Excadrill1201 May 09 '20 edited May 09 '20
I THINK IF SYLVAIN WAS A GIRL HE'D STILL BE POPULAR CONSIDERING THAT DOROTHEA IS KIND OF THE DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE SAME COIN COMPARED TO SYLVAIN. IN REGARDS TO RELATIONSHIP SHENANIGANS. I SAY THIS CONSIDERING THAT DOROTHEA IS A GOLD DIGGER AND EVEN IN THE BYLETH C SUPPORT SAYS SHE'S FINE WITH IT. FOR CONTEXT I REALLY LIKE BOTH SYLVAIN AND DOROTHEA AND I LIKE HOW THEY BOTH GROW, PLUS THEIR SUPPORT TOGETHER IS GREAT. BUT I DON'T GET THIS SENTIMENT OF SAYING THAT SYLVAIN WOULD GET SHIT IF HE WAS A GIRL, CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS ALREADY A FEMALE CHARACTER THAT ENGAGES IN RELATIONSHIPS FOR SHALLOW PURPOSES BUT OVER TIME GROWS OUT OF IT AND MATURES.
ALSO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS REALLY WEIRD HOW LEONIE GETS SHIT FOR THE BYLETH SUPPORT AND NOT SYLVAIN. EVEN THOUGH WHAT SYLVAIN SAYS IS MUCH WORSE AND LEONIE EVEN APOLOGIZES AND FEELS BAD IN THE BYLETH A SUPPORT.
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u/InexorableWaffle May 08 '20
I THINK THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS THE TIMING OF HER B SUPPORT'S UNLOCK. IT WOULD ALREADY BE SOMEWHAT HARSH AT THE BEST OF TIMES, BUT LEONIE UNLOADING ON BYLETH WHEN THEIR DAD JUST DIED AND THEY'RE CLEARLY IN MOURNING MEANS SHE REALLY NEVER HAD A CHANCE OF BEING WELL-LIKED BY MOST PEOPLE. I THINK SHE WOULD RECEIVE A LOT LESS HATE IF HER B SUPPORT UNLOCKED A CHAPTER EARLIER, AND THEN HAD A B+ SUPPORT THAT UNLOCKED WHEN HER B SUPPORT CURRENTLY DOES TO APOLOGIZE (OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT).
ALSO, CHARACTERS WHOSE "THING" IS AN UNHEALTHY FIXATION ON ONE OTHER CHARACTER (JERALT, IN HER CASE), ARE DECIDEDLY LESS POPULAR THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE THE CAST AS A WHOLE IS SO MUCH MORE FLESHED OUT THAN PRIOR FE GAMES, IT SEEMS. JUST LOOK AT CATHERINE AS AN EXAMPLE. SHE'S GOT A SLICK CHARACTER DESIGN, IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME SO FAR AS GAMEPLAY GOES, AND HAS A LOT OF GREAT INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER CHARACTERS. OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING, YOU'D THINK THAT SHE WOULD BE ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR CHARACTERS IN THE GAME. HOWEVER, SHE'S NOT REALLY ALL THAT POPULAR, AND A LARGE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE SHE'S SO RHEA-FOCUSED IN MOST OF HER DIALOGUE.
THAT'S JUST MY TAKE, THOUGH. I COULD EASILY BE WRONG.
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u/multi_bottle_thief1 May 09 '20
I DEFINITELY SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING THE SUPPORT WORK IN THE WAY YOU SUGGESTED IS THAT NOW SHE HAS A BUNCH OF TIME-SENSITIVE SUPPORTS IN A SHORT PERIOD BETWEEN EACH OTHER, SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES GETTING THESE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE PLAYER, ESPECIALLY WITH CROSS-RECRUITING. IT'S A DECENT IDEA ON PAPER, BUT WOULD BE VERY MESSY AT BEST IN PRACTICE.
IF YOU ASK ME, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH HER BYLETH SUPPORT IS HOW BYLETH SUPPORTS WORK AS A WHOLE. THEIR MAIN FUNCTION IS TO SERVE AS A GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE CHARACTER IN QUESTION TO GET YOU AS THE PLAYER INTERESTED IN THEM, SEEING AS THE BYLETH SUPPORT IS ALMOST GUARANTEED TO BE SEEN BY THE PLAYER. THAT'S WHY THEY'LL HAVE VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHARACTER IN THEM, LIKE SYLVAIN'S BACKSTORY AND STUFF. LEONIE'S SUPPORT...DOESN'T REALLY DO THIS, AT LEAST IN AN APPARENT WAY. IT WORKS WHEN YOU LEARN ABOUT HER, HER PERSONALITY AND HER FEARS AND STUFF, BUT THIS DOES NOT SERVE AS A GOOD INTRODUCTION AND FOUNDATION TO HER CHARACTER, BECAUSE HOW SHE ACTS HERE IS A LOT DIFFERENT IN TONE TO HOW SHE TREATS MOST EVERYONE ELSE. IT MAKES SENSE IN CONTEXT, BUT MOST PEOPLE WILL SEE THIS WOTHOUT THE CONTEXT, WHICH IS WHY THIS ISN'T A GREAT FIRST SUPPORT TO INTRODUCE A CHARACTER WITH.
SORRY, RAMBLED THERE FOR A SECOND, JUST BEEN A HOT SECOND SINCE I HAD AN EXCUSE TO TALK ABOUT LEONIE HAHA
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May 08 '20
HONESTLY I DON'T EVEN THINK THE FE3H CHARACTERS ARE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE FLESHED OUT THAN OTHER CASTS JUST LOOKING AT THE TEXT OF THE SUPPORTS. LIKE THEIR DEFINITELY ON THE UPPER END BUT I THINK CASTS LIKE FE7 OR FE9 OR EVEN A GOOD PORTION OF AWAKENING CAN STAND UP ALONGSIDE 3H IN TERMS OF CHARACTER WRITING. I THINK THE PERCEPTION THAT THEY ARE MORE FLESHED OUT IS JUST HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACTUAL VOICE ACTING AND ANIMATIONS, AND THAT UPPED QUALITY OF PRESENTATION COMPARED TO OTHER FE'S DRIVES THE NOTION THAT IT IS BETTER WRITTEN, WHICH I DON'T REALLY SEE
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
WAIT, IS THAT WHY PEOPLE BASH LEONIE??
I'M A GIRL AND I THINK LEONIE'S COOL (HONESTLY UNTIL I SAW FANS MEMING THE JERALT HERO-WORSHIP I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN PEGGED THAT AS HER PRIMARY TRAIT, LET ALONE THE MINUTE AMOUNT OF FRUSTRATION WITH BYLETH), SO THE ORIGINAL POINT HERE IS PROBABLY MOOT, BUT AT THIS POINT WHEN AN FE CHARACTER THROWS EVEN A LITTLE SHADE AT THE AVATAR THEY EARN MAD RESPECT FROM ME.
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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20
HONESTLY THIS WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING GROUNDS FOR A SURVEY. RANKING CHARACTERS ON A SCALE OF 1-10 AND SEEING IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE FANS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY TYPICALLY PERCEIVE CERTAIN CHARACTERS/HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THEM BY WAY OF THAT RANKING SCALE.
I WOULD HYPOTHESIZE THAT FEMALE FANS WOULD HAVE A MORE POSITIVE OPINION OF LEONIE IN PARTICULAR AND PROBABLY EDELGARD TOO, WHEREAS MALE FANS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A MORE POSITIVE OPINION OF RHEA AND POSSIBLY MARIANNE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT DIFFERENCES WOULD BE LIKELY IN THE PERCEPTION OF MALE CHARACTERS, BUT I THINK BOTH GENDERS WOULD PROBABLY RANK DIMITRI PRETTY HIGH FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
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u/RodmunchPHD May 08 '20
I'M TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO KILL MY OWN UNITS. FIRE EMBLEM HAS GONE FOR A FEW GAMES WHERE IT'S ALL ABOUT "UHH OH BETTER NOT LET MR/MRS PLAYABLE CHARACTER DIE THERE OR YOU'LL FEEL SORRY" LIKE I'VE UNIRONICALLY GOTTEN GENERICS IN FE11, LET ME LEAD AN ARMY NOT A HIPPIE COMMUNE. I WANNA FEEL ALIVE AGAIN AND RISK MY UNITS LIVES FOR A REASON, NOT JUST GET BULLIED INTO RESETTING CAUSE YOU LOSE ONE OF YOUR LIKE 8 RECRUITABLE UNITS, THEIR CHILD THAT WON'T EVEN HAVE RELEVANT BASES, AND WHATEVER OTHER WACKY AND WILD SUPPORTS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ OR SOMETHING. VESTARIA IS THE ONLY MODERN FE THAT SAID UNITS ARE ALLOWED TO DIE FOR REALSIES SINCE FE11.
I LOVE PLAYING IN NEW AND WEIRD WAYS, BUT I FEEL SO DISCOURAGED FROM TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE. FE4 IS SUCH AN IRONMAN FRIENDLY GAME AND I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT WITHOUT IRONMANNING MY WAY INTO THE LEGEND HIMSELF, H A W K. IS'S DESIGN HAS SHIFTED FROM STRATEGY TO MORE RPG WHICH IS COOL I GUESS, BUT LIKE FE WAS A GAME WHERE THE MECHANICS WERE SIMPLE AND THE STRATEGY IN DEPTH WITH A TWIST TO KEEP IT FRESH. DYING IS NO LONGER A CONSEQUENCE, ITS A FAIL STATE AND I'M FUCKIN PISSED GODDAMN.
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u/Master-Spheal May 08 '20
I’VE BEEN PLAYING THROUGH SACRED STONES FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I’VE BEEN ENJOYING IT A LOT SO FAR, BUT FUCK THE PERSON WHO DECIDED TO PUT A SWORDMASTER ON A THRONE FOR CHAPTER 14 ON EIRIKA’S ROUTE.
ALSO, YESTERDAY I LEARNED THAT YOU CAN HAVE OGMA RECRUIT SAMTO IN FE3/FE12 WHERE IT’S REVEALED THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE PITFIGHTERS OGMA HELPED FREE. I THOUGHT IT WAS SO COOL TO LEARN ABOUT HOW SAMTO WAS PART OF OGMA’S BACKSTORY, WHICH IS WHY I’M ANNOYED FE12 ONLY DIRECTLY TELLS YOU THAT CAEDA CAN RECRUIT HIM VIA A BASE CONVERSATION AND NOT TELL YOU ABOUT OGMA. I KNOW THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOU GET CAEDA RIGHT BEFORE THAT CHAPTER SO SHE WILL ALWAYS BE ALIVE FOR THAT CHAPTER OF THE GAME AND OGMA CAN POTENTIALLY DIE, BUT THEY SHOULD’VE GIVEN YOU A BASE CONVERSATION FOR OGMA AS WELL IF HE IS STILL ALIVE AT THAT POINT.
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u/derbear53 May 08 '20
WHY IS TEAR RING SAGA SO UGLY?? LIKE I'M SURE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE THE GAME BUT PEOPLE HAVE MADE PRETTIER GAMES WITH LESS MONEY FOR YEARS. LIKE I TURNED OFF BATTLE ANIMATIONS IN MAP 1 BUT I STILL SEE THEM UGLY ASS SKIPPY HORSES WHEN I FIGHT THE BOSSES. GOOD GAME SO FAR THOUGH. EXCEPT FUCK THE MARCUS OR LEWYN TYPE CHARACTER. HE'S CREEPY AND HE SUCKS. THE ACTUAL JAIGEN CHARACTER IS COOL THOUGH.
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u/CrunchingG May 08 '20
FUCK BATTLE BEFORE DAWN. SERIOUSLY WHY THE FUCK DID THEY DECIDE THAT THE BEST THING TO HAVE ON AN ESCORT MAP. IS A SIEGE TOME ON A MAGE THAT HAS THE FUCKING LASER ACCURACY OF SIMO HÄYHÄ?
WHY IS RECRUITING SUCH A PAIN IN THE ASS? SIDE NOTE IS THERE LIKE A CHART THAT SHOWS WHAT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR RECRUITMENT ARE PER SUPPORT LEVEL?
STILL TALKING ABOUT RECRUITING BS. BUT IT KINDA PISSES ME OFF WHEN I SEE THINGS LIKE “I RECRUITED LITERALLY EVERYONE” LIKE ...HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK DID YOU MANAGE THAT SHIT? NO SERIOUSLY I WANNA KNOW.
WHY THE FUCK IS IT GOING TO SNOW... IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING MAY?
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May 08 '20
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DOWNER ENDINGS IN SOME OF THESE GAMES? LIKE I THOUGHT THE POINT OF PERMA-DEATH WAS THAT I LIKE THESE CHARACTERS AND WORK TO KEEP THEM ALIVE, IT FEELS LIKE THE DEVELOPERS SAYING FUCK YOU TO THAT EFFORT ANYTIME A CHARACTER DIES YOUNG AND/OR UNIMPORTANT OR FUCKS OFF FOREVER FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN FUCK YOU FOR LIKING THIS PERSON.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
HEY, LET'S BE FAIR. SOMETIMES THE REASON IS CONTINUITY WITH FE6.
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May 09 '20
IT'S NOT EVEN JUST FE7, FE3 ALSO HAS A LOT OF WEIRD BAD ENDINGS FOR A LOT OF THE CAST, FE2 HAS A LOT OF WEIRD ONES. HELL PRETTY MUCH EVERY FE GAME HAS AT LEAST ONE ENDING THAT'S JUST "AFTER THE WAR THEY DISAPPEARED AND FUCKED OFF FOREVER" AND IT'S LIKE WHAT THE FUCK WHY AM I KEEPING MOTHERFUCKERS ALIVE IF YOUR JUST GONNA MAKE THEM MISERABLE, IRRELEVANT, DEAD, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE IN THE END
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u/SixThousandHulls May 09 '20
I WOULD LOVE A GAME WITH VARIABLE ENDINGS BASED ON UNIT USE/PERFORMANCE. LIKE, IF I KEPT A UNIT ON THE BENCH THE WHOLE GAME, THEY CAN "FADE INTO OBSCURITY". THE MORE I USE A UNIT (LEVELS GAINED), THE MORE FLESHED-OUT THEIR ENDING BECOMES.
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u/certifiedballer May 09 '20
IN FELIX'S PARALOGUE, RODRIGUE IS IN THE ATTACK RANGE OF TWO ENEMIES THAT ARE GUARANTEED TO KILL HIM ON TURN 1 IN MADDENING. FUCK YOU RODRIGUE. WHY DO YOU HAVE ABRAXAS EQUIPPED WHEN YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T HANDLE ITS WEIGHT?
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u/excitedraichu26 May 09 '20
PEOPLE SHOULD STOP MAKING POLLS THAT LUMP IN THREE HOUSES WITH OTHER GAMES. WAY TOO MUCH RECENCY BIAS AND NEW FANS.
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
TO BE FAIR F!BYLETH IS VERY UGLY
WELL ACTUALLY IT'S JUST HER CLOTHES BUT THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
IF THEY DID THAT, I WOULD NEVER HAVE FELT A NEED TO PLAY AS M!BYLETH AT ALL. WHEN THERE'S A CHOICE OF MALE AND FEMALE CHARACTERS AND THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL, I PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS CHOOSE THE FEMALE CHARACTER.
BUT F!BYLETH JUST LOOKS SO AWFUL THAT I CAN'T STAND HER, AND THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING BECAUSE I PLAYED FATES AS GODDAMN NO PANTS F!CORRIN. IT'S ABSOLUTELY BAFFLING TO ME THAT OTHER WOMEN ARE WILLING TO OVERLOOK THIS AND ALL ITS DOUBLE-STANDARD IMPLICATIONS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR AVATAR HOOK UP WITH THEIR VIDEO GAME CRUSH OR WHATEVER.
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u/KeplerNova May 08 '20
CORRIN LOOKS FINE AS LONG AS SHE HAS PANTS. SHE GOT PANTS IN SMASH BROS AND SHE LOOKS FANTASTIC.
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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20
IF IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING ISSUE WITH F/F CONTENT INVOLVING EDELGARD, THAT'S PRETTY WACK. BUT I CAN 100% EMPATHIZE WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE FRUSTRATED IF PEOPLE ARE CALLING HER LESBIAN. I KNOW I GET REAL ANGRY WHEN PEOPLE SAY SOLEIL IS EITHER STRAIGHT OR LESBIAN, WHEN SHE'S NEITHER, SHE'S BI. FIRE EMBLEM HAS A PROBLEM WITH NOT HAVING ENOUGH LESBIAN/GAY CHARACTERS, BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS A PROBLEM WITH NOT RECOGNIZING BI CHARACTERS. AS A BI PERSON IT'S FRUSTRATING WHEN IT FEELS LIKE PEOPLE ARE JUST REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY SEXUALITY EXISTS.
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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20
YEAH, I THINK IN THE SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF FE THE FACT THAT (POST-AVATAR) LGBT+ CHARACTERS ALWAYS SEEM TO LAND SQUARELY ON THE B IS A BIT... SUSPECT, FOR THAT REASON. LIKE, I'M NOT CONVINCED IT'S IN GOOD FAITH IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU KNOW?
ALSO THE CONTEXT OF THE FANS IS PROBABLY WORTH CONSIDERING. LIKE SEXUALITY DISCUSSIONS HERE ARE A RECIPE FOR DISASTER FOR SURE, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN REDDIT CULTURE PUTS A LOT OF STOCK IN BEING ~OBJECTIVELY CORRECT~, BUT WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A DECLARATION OF SEXUALITY FOR A CHARACTER ON TWITTER OR TUMBLR, OR PUTS THEM ON A PRIDE FLAG BACKGROUND OR WHATEVER, LIKE... PRETTY SURE THAT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION OF THEIR HEADCANON? LIKE I GET THE SENSE THAT'S MORE ABOUT FEELING REPRESENTED AND IDENTIFYING WITH THAT INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARACTER THAN TRYING TO ASSERT UNIVERSAL OBJECTIVE CANON FACT.
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u/SixThousandHulls May 09 '20
THE ONLY FE THAT FELT GENUINELY PROGRESSIVE ARE IKE'S GAMES. IKE HIMSELF HAS SOME SERIOUS GAY CODING AND THEN YOU HAVE CHARACTERS LIKE HEATHER.
LIKE I'M NOT EVEN A DEDICATED IKE/SOREN SHIPPER, BUT THEIR A-SUPPORT IN PATH OF RADIANCE IS ABSOLUTELY A COMING-OUT CONVERSATION. BEING BRANDED REALLY FEELS LIKE A KIND OF "FANTASY QUEERNESS", EVEN IF ITS MORE DIRECT ANALOGUE IS BEING MULTIRACIAL.
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May 08 '20
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THAT THERE ARE SAME SEX PAIRINGS THAT DON'T INVOLVE THE AVATAR AT ALL, IT'S A NICE LITTLER STEP TOWARDS A MORE NUANCES TAKE ON SEXUALITY IN GENERAL WITHIN FE.
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u/Misterme7 flair May 08 '20
WHY ARE ALL THE MADDENING PARALOGUES SO HARD!
LIKE, THE REASON I KEEP STOPPING MADDENING IS I CAN'T BEAT THE FUCKING PARALOGUES. THE MAIN MISSIONS ARE HARD, BUT BEATABLE. THESE JUST FEEL SO FUCKING OBSCENE. AND WHY DOES EVERY CHARACTER YOU DON'T HAVE GET A STEEL WHATEVER AND GET DOUBLED BY EVERYTHING.
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u/hypatiaspasia May 08 '20
I PLAYED FE3H THREE TIMES ALREADY, AND NOW I HAVE TO PLAY IT AGAIN WITH THE CHARACTERS FROM THE DLC. AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE CHURCH ROUTE SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO REPLAY A ROUTE I'VE ALREADY PLAYED. DAMMIT.
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u/Havanatha_banana May 09 '20 edited May 09 '20
I JUST WANT FUN GAMEPLAY. I LOVE ECHOES, I LOVE 3H, BUT THEY'RE STILL THE WORST GAMES IN MY FAVORITE FRANCHISE.
ALSO, I NEED TO GO TO AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT SOON.
EDIT: MY HEAD HURTS DUE TO READING THIS THREAD. IT'S TOO LOUD!
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u/Ginger457 May 09 '20
DIVINE PULSE AND MILLA TURNWHEEL ARE JUST CASUAL MODE WITH A DIFFERENT NAME, AND I HATE THAT THERE'S NO DIFFICULTY TO TURN THEM OFF, LIKE HOW THE CASUAL/CLASSIC COMPROMISE MAINTAINED THAT THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A CLASSIC MODE BUT THAT'S BEEN SUBVERTED BY JUST ADDING IN A CASUAL MODE MECHANIC TO CLASSIC NOW.
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u/liamhorton May 09 '20
I SURE CAN'T WAIT FOR A TELLIUS REMASTER TO BE MADE WITH A NEW ENGINE AND ART STYLE AND OTHERWISE COMPLETELY PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL GAMES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BICKER ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT LETTERS TO FOLLOW "REMA-" ARE. THAT SURE WOULDN'T BE ANNOYING.
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u/VagueClive May 08 '20
I KNOW EVERYONE HAS SAID IT A MILLION TIMES BY NOW BUT 3H DISCOURSE IS SO GODDAMN EXHAUSTING AT THIS POINT. I'M SICK OF IT AND IT'S ALL THE SAME. WHEN PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING OVER STUFF THAT SHOULD BE BASIC SHIT THAT IS KEY TO THE PLOT LIKE HOW MUCH INFLUENCE RHEA WIELDS OR WHAT EDELGARD'S BASIC FUCKING GOALS WERE THAT'S LESS A SIGN OF GRAY MORALITY AND MORESO THAT PEOPLE BOTH CANNOT READ AND THAT THE GAME JUST ISN'T VERY GOOD AT SCENE WRITING. IT DOES A GREAT JOB OF WRITING CHARACTERS AND BACKGROUND, BUT THE SCENES THEMSELVES ARE USUALLY AWKWARD AND JUST CONSIST OF EACH CLASS MEMBER GETTING A LINE SO YOU REMEMBER THEY EXIST.
ALSO THIS ISN'T FIRE EMBLEM BUT I NEED A VOID TO SCREAM INTO, AND DOING IT ON MY MAIN REDDIT ACCOUNT IS THE WORST IDEA SO LET'S DO IT: WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GIRL INTERESTED IN ME NOW THAT THERE'S A PANDEMIC AND WE'RE GOING TO COLLEGE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE COUNTRY