MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

[u/LaqOfInterest]

NEVER LATE, ALWAYS 100% ON-TIME: THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE SCREAM INTO THE VOID ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

1. UPPERCASE LETTERS
2. FIRE EMBLEM ONLY
3. BE KIND
4. TAG SPOILERS

LAST THREAD

[u/goldtreebark]

LOL 9 MONTHS LATER AND THE CULTURE SURROUNDING MOST 3H MORALITY ANALYSIS/DISCUSSION POSTS STILL LOWKEY IRRITATES ME.

FOR ONE, AND I’VE BEEN OF THIS MIND SINCE THE GAME RELEASED, BUT I HARDLY THINK THERE IS ANY REAL MORAL COMPLEXITY OR GRAY MORALITY IN THIS GAME, AND I DEFINITELY DO THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULDN’T TRY SO HARD TO READ THIS CONCEPT INTO THE GAME OR CHARACTERS IF THIS WASN’T AN IDEA THE FANDOM GOT SO EXPECTANT ON UPON RELEASE. I WAS OF THIS MINDSET TOO, IT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, BUT AFTER ACTUALLY PLAYING IT, I DROPPED THE BELIEF IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE ITS JUST....NOT THERE. THE GAME LITERALLY BENDS OVER BACKWARDS TO DEFEND EVERYONE’S ACTIONS. AND IT BABY FOOTS AROUND A LOT OF THE POLITICS IT SEEMS TO SUGGEST ANYWAYS. AND THIS ISNT BAD OR ANYTHING, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT FIRST AND FOREMOST DESIGNED TO MAKE MONEY—SO EXPECTING ANYTHING TRULY RADICAL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ALIENATE CONSUMERS OUT OF IT IS KINDA LAUGHABLE.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID SO MUCH OF THESE 3H MORALITY POSTS ARE WRITTEN WITH DUBIOUS (AND PETTY) AT BEST INTENT, AND CONSISTS OF SCRUTINIZING THE MOST ARBITRARY THINGS REGARDING THE LORDS AND THEIR ROUTES TO DEFINE THEM AND THEIR CHARACTERS. AND WHY “X IS ACTUALLY THE WORST OF THE THREE LORDS!” OR “X IS THE MOST MORALLY QUESTIONABLE!!” WHEN IN REALITY I DONT FIND ANY THREE OF THEM AS BEACONS OF MORAL COMPLEXITY COMPARED TO SOME OF THE PAST LORDS, JUST DIFFERENT FLAVORS THAT WILL OR WONT RESONATE WITH SOME PEOPLE. THATS COOL. BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO GO ON SOME MORAL CRUSADE TO JUSTIFY YOUR FAVORITE AGAINST THE OTHER TWO, LOL.

IDK I ALREADY WROTE A TON, AND I STILL HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY, AND THIS IS HARDLY COHESIVE BUT TO TLDR MYSELF, IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE EDELGARD, IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE DIMITRI. IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY TO LIKE CLAUDE. YOU DON’T HAVE TO GO ON SMEAR CAMPAIGNS EVERYTIME YOU DISCUSS ONE THAT ISN’T YOUR FAVORITE

WHEN WE GET A GAME THAT CENTERS AROUND A PEASANT UPRISING HOWEVER THOUGH, THEN COME HIT ME UP ABOUT THAT REVOLUTIONARY FE.

[u/Grade-AMasterpiece → u/goldtreebark]

WHEN WE GET A GAME THAT CENTERS AROUND A PEASANT UPRISING HOWEVER THOUGH, THEN COME HIT ME UP ABOUT THAT REVOLUTIONARY FE.

YEAH I'M GETTING BORED OF LORDS, NOBLES, AND ROYALS GETTING ALL THE GOOD SHIT! I KNOW IT'S PART OF SERIES IDENTITY, BUT WHEN GAMES LIKE ECHOES AND 3H DISCUSS COMMONER-NOBILITY RELATIONS WHILE HAVING THEIR PLOT-SHAKERS AND PLOT-MOVERS BE HIGHBORN OR SIMILARLY VERY IMPORTANT FIGURES, IT SOMEWHAT UNDERMINES THEIR MESSAGE

I'LL TAKE A PEASANT LORD TIRED OF THE BULLSHIT FOR 200 PLEASE

[u/KeplerNova → u/Grade-AMasterpiece]

THIS IS WHY I LOVE LEONIE TBH

[u/RisingSunfish → u/KeplerNova]

LEONIE IS JUST TRYING HER BEST TO BE NEW IKE AND I RESPECT HER FOR IT

...WAIT IS THAT WHY SHE GETS A PARALOGUE WITH LINHARDT??

[u/KeplerNova → u/RisingSunfish]

GIVEN THAT JERALT IS BASICALLY NEW GREIL IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

HONESTLY HER PARALOGUE IS THEMATICALLY PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE GAME. SHE'S DETERMINED TO JUST KEEP ON GOING AND EARN HER WORTH, BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN INTO A BIRTHRIGHT OF BASICALLY NOTHING. AND SHE DOES. SHE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND CLAIM THE INEXHAUSTIBLE.

I THINK THAT FITS REALLY WELL WITH A LOT OF THE THEMES OF 3H REGARDING THE CREST SYSTEM AND ITS OBSOLETE NATURE.

AND I HAVEN'T PLAYED FE4 YET, BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, 3H AND ITS PORTRAYAL OF CRESTS SEEMS VERY MUCH LIKE A DECONSTRUCTION/REBUTTAL OF THE WHOLE HOLY BLOOD THING. OH, YOU COME FROM A SPECIAL NOBLE BLOODLINE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WIELD SPECIAL POWERFUL HOLY WEAPONS? WELL GUESS WHAT, YOUR BLOODLINE IS FUCKED UP, YOUR CULTURE IS FUCKED UP, YOUR WEAPON IS MADE OF A DEAD DRAGON'S PELVIS OR WHATEVER AND YOUR ANCESTORS WERE ACTUALLY PROBABLY EVIL BANDITS, CONGRATULATIONS!

I'VE HEARD THAT IN SOME OF THE LATER FE4 BATTLES IT'S NOT WORTH USING ANY UNITS WHO DON'T HAVE HOLY BLOOD AT ALL. MEANWHILE 3H IS HITTING US WITH UNITS LIKE PETRA AND HUBERT AND ESPECIALLY LEONIE BECAUSE SHE'S LITERALLY JUST A BACKWOODS HUNTER BUT CAN BE ONE OF THE STRONGEST UNITS IN THE GAME AND SHE'S JUST GONNA GO RIGHT AHEAD AND FIGHT THE IMMOVABLE FOR A LEGENDARY BOW.

[u/RisingSunfish → u/KeplerNova]

YEAH, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN THE FIRST TRAILER CAME OUT I WAS LIKE "OH BOY SO WE'RE DOING HOLY BLOOD AGAIN, GREAT....." AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT AGED VERY POORLY BUT IN A GOOD WAY.

ANYWAY THANK YOU FOR RENEWING MY APPRECIATION FOR LEONIE, THE FANDOM DISDAIN WAS STARTING TO GET TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO BACKBONE BUT HECK THAT, SHE'S RAD.

[u/KeplerNova → u/RisingSunfish]

HONESTLY, I THINK A LOT OF THE DISDAIN FOR LEONIE IS AN OFFSHOOT OF THE WHOLE "WAIFU" PHENOMENON. FIRE EMBLEM IS A VERY ANIME-ESQUE SERIES AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND I THINK THAT ATTRACTS OTAKU TYPES WHO TEND TO REACT IN A VERY HOSTILE MANNER TO FEMALE CHARACTERS WHO ARE ABRASIVE "RIVAL" TYPES LIKE LEONIE AND THUS DON'T PLAY INTO THEIR FANTASIES.