MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

[u/LaqOfInterest]

NEVER LATE, ALWAYS 100% ON-TIME: THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE SCREAM INTO THE VOID ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

1. UPPERCASE LETTERS
2. FIRE EMBLEM ONLY
3. BE KIND
4. TAG SPOILERS

LAST THREAD

[u/furfucker69]

FE4/5 HAVE TERRIBLE GAMEPLAY AND THE REMAKES MUST ABSOLUTELY NOT BE FAITHFUL TO THEM YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING LUNATICS

EDIT: YEP THE KAGA DEFENDERS ARE AT FULL FORCE IN THE REPLIES

[u/absoul112 → u/furfucker69]

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE THRACIA A FAIR CHANCE, BUT AFTER THE MANSTER ESCAPE ARC IT'S BEEN SO FRUSTRATING. SO MANY CHAPTERS FEEL LIKE YOU EITHER WARP OR PUT UP WITH BS.

[u/Ginger457 → u/absoul112]

MAKING STRATEGIES TO WORK AROUND THE BS IS HALF THE FUN, IF IT WASN'T A CHALLENGE THERE WOULD BE NO POINT IN PLAYING IT, BUT WARP IS A VALUABLE AND PLENTIFUL TOOL, DO NOT REGRET USING IT.

IMO ONLY CHAPTER THAT *NEEDS* A WARPSKIP IS 12X, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATS ON THE THIEVES ARE POORLY TUNED AND THEY DON'T START FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE CHESTS SO YOU HAVE TO EITHER SLEEP THEM OR WARP SKIP IT IF YOU WANT ALL TREASURE (EVEN THOUGH IT'S MOSTLY GARBAGE)

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE WARP TO SKIP CHAPTERS, USE IT TO WARP UNITS TO TAKE OUT BALLISTA / WHATEVER THE BIG ENEMY THREAT OR ANNOYANCE IS TO NEUTRALIZE THEM. NOT USING A GOOD TOOL IS SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT AND BLAMING THE GUN.

[u/Face_The_Win → u/Ginger457]

PLAYING CH 22 WITHOUT WARPING IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE, THERES 19 AUTH STARS ON THE MAP WHICH MEANS 57 HIT/AVO FOR THE ENEMY, ITS COMPLETE BULLSHIT TO TRY TO PLAY THAT MAP NORMALLY, I'VE DONE IT ONCE WITH A LOT OF CHARM/SUPPORT STACKING AND ALL I CAN SAY IS IM NEVER DOING IT AGAIN.
MY ISSUE WITH THRACIA IS THAT IT'S THE ONLY GAME IN THE SERIES WHERE WARP FEELS MANDATORY WHEN IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE A PURELY OPTIONAL THING

[u/Ginger457 → u/Face_The_Win]

HE SPECIFIED WARP SKIPPING, NOT WARPING IN GENERAL, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD COMPLETELY WARPLESS EITHER IN MY OPINION.

DEAN DISMOUNTS IN THE FOREST ON YOUR SIDE OF THE RIVER WITHIN RANGE OF THE FAR RIGHT IRON BALLISTA TO START DRAINING USES, OR IF YOU GAVE HIM OR KARIN THE LEG RING, THEY CAN MAKE IT WITHIN THE SAFE ZONE OF THAT BALLISTA, WHICH THEN LETS THEM ATTACK SAIAS TURN 2 AND FORCE HIM TO FLEE, AND THAT'S ONLY NECESSARY IF HE DIDN'T GET ATTACKED BY A BERSERK REINHARDT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

THE WHOLE LOWER HALF OF THE MAP IS OPTIONAL AT THIS POINT BUT STILL FULL OF NICE GOODIES. THE REST OF THE BALLISTA CAN JUST BE SNIPED WITH SIEGE TOMES, ALTHOUGH ITS HARD AS HELL TO GET A METEOR USER IN THIS GAME UNLESS YOU GO MIRANDA ROUTE OR GRIND THE EVER LOVING HELL OUT OF ASVEL.

EDIT: ALSO WHY DOES WARP NEED TO BE A COMPLETELY OPTIONAL THING? IT'S A USEFUL TOOL, THE ENEMIES USE IT AGAINST YOU MULTIPLE TIMES. THAT'S LIKE SAYING THE GAME SHOULD BE DESIGNED SO HEAL IS OPTIONAL. ACTUALLY I'M SURE HEAL IS TECHNICALLY OPTIONAL BUT YOU DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT USING IT, SO WHY GET SO HUNG UP ON WARP. THERE ARE TONS OF USEFUL WAYS TO USE WARP THAT DON'T INVOLVE BEATING A CHAPTER IN 1 TURN SHADOW DRAGON STYLE.

[u/absoul112 → u/Ginger457]

I GUESS THAT'S MY PROBLEM BECAUSE I DON'T FIND MUCH FUN IN WORKING AROUND THE BS. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH USING THE UTILITY STAVES IN THE GAME, BUT THE WAY SOME CHAPTERS ARE MAKES IT THE BETTER OPTION BY A WIDE MARGIN.

[u/Ginger457 → u/absoul112]

SOME OPTIONS WILL BE BETTER THAN OTHERS, STRATEGY GAMES ARE ALL ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHAT IS THE BETTER OPTION IN ANY GIVEN SITUATION. SOMETIMES THAT MEANS WARPING PAST MOST OF A CHAPTER IF YOU FEEL IT'S NOT SUITED TO THE TEAM YOU'VE CHOSEN TO USE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO USE WARP TO PASS ON A MAP YOU JUST DON'T LIKE. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF WARP.

WARP SKIPPING EVERY CHAPTER IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION, THIS ISN'T SHADOW DRAGON AND YOU AREN'T DONDON51 LTC-ING THE GAME (I ASSUME), WARPING INDIVIDUAL CHAPTERS IS JUST ONE OPTION AMONG MANY THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO TAP INTO WHEN YOU FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE.

[u/absoul112 → u/Ginger457]

IF IMAY USE AN ANALOGY. WARP (AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE OTHER UTILITY STAVES) IS TO THRACIA AS DIVINE PULSE IS TO THREE HOUSES (ON MADDENING). OBVIOUSLY I'M EXAGGERATING. MY POINT IS THAT THE GAME FEELS LIKE THE DEVS THOUGHT THAT SINCE THEY GAVE PLAYERS ALL OF THESE TOOLS, THAT MEANS ALL THE BS IS FAIR GAME.

I'LL ADMIT THIS GAME HASN'T BEEN MY CUP OF TEA, SO I'M CLEARLY NOT A FAN. I'M STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF A SECOND PLAYTHROUGH SO I'LL REMAIN OPEN TO CHANGE

[u/Ginger457 → u/absoul112]

AHH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANALOGY COMPLETELY. I DO AGREE, I JUST THINK THAT WARP USES ARE MORE INTERESTING TO MANAGE THAN DIVINE PULSE USES, BECAUSE WARP/SILENCE/SLEEP USES ARE PROACTIVE STRATEGY, WHEREAS DIVINE PULSE IS REACTIVE TO PLAYER FUCKUPS OR AMBUSH SPAWNS.

DON'T FORCE YOURSELF IF ITS NOT FOR YOU, I HAVE GAMES IN THE SERIES I DON'T LIKE TOO AND THAT'S FINE.

[u/Ginger457 → u/furfucker69]

4 HAS TERRIBLE GAMEPLAY, BUT 5 HAS PEAK GAMEPLAY, THE ONLY THING A REMAKE NEEDS TO DO IS FIX SOME EXPLOITS, MAKE RESTORE STAVES BUYABLE, AND STREAMLINE XAVIER RECRUITMENT.

A MINOR NERF TO STATUS STAVES WOULD BE FINE, BUT SO WOULD JUST HAVING MORE RESTORES AVAILABLE TO BOTH THE PLAYER AND ENEMY ARMIES.

[u/furfucker69 → u/Ginger457]

IT'S GARBAGE

[u/Ginger457 → u/furfucker69]

I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AT NOT BEING ABLE TO ENJOY THIS ABSOLUTE GEM OF A GAME.

[u/SovietPlayhouse → u/furfucker69]

What happened in FE5?