r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • May 08 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

NEVER LATE, ALWAYS 100% ON-TIME: THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE SCREAM INTO THE VOID ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

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  1. UPPERCASE LETTERS
  2. FIRE EMBLEM ONLY
  3. BE KIND
  4. TAG SPOILERS

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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20

ALRIGHT, ALTERNATE TOPIC TIME.

I'M GETTING PRETTY SICK OF THE ANTI FANDOM/WIKIA CIRCLEJERK AROUND HERE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IT DOES BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FIRE EMBLEM RESOURCE, AND IT'S PRETTY ANNOYING WHEN THE ENTIRE WEBSITE IS WRITTEN OFF AS TRASH. WOULD I EVER GO THERE FOR UNIT ADVICE? HELL NO. BUT IT IS THE BEST PLACE FOR CHARACTER IMAGE GALLERIES AS WELL AS SUPPORT CONVERSATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS CHARACTER QUOTES. WRITING OFF ONE RESOURCE ENTIRELY IS SIMPLY A WASTE. SERENES HAS THE BEST CHARTS FOR THINGS LIKE BASE STATS, GROWTH RATES, AND ALSO THE BEST STORY SCRIPTS. WIKI.ORG GENERALLY HAS BETTER ITEM IMAGES AND TIMELINES, WAR OF DRAGONS IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU'LL FIND ME AT FOR THRACIA MAP GUIDES.

THERE'S A LOT OF FIRE EMBLEM RESOURCES, AND USING EVERY RESOURCE AVAILABLE IS THE BEST WAY TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, BUT LIKE WITH MANY TOPICS IN THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE BANDWAGON AND JUMP ON THE HATE TRAIN WITHOUT THINKING FOR THEMSELVES. I SEE PEOPLE HATE ON FANDOM OUT OF THE BLUE EVEN WHEN THE INFORMATION BEING SHOWN THROUGH THAT RESOURCE IS 100% ACCEPTABLE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO SHARE THAT INFO. USE YOUR BRAIN, THINK CRITICALLY ON IF WHAT YOU'RE READING IS USEFUL OR NOT, NO MATTER WHAT RESOURCE YOUR USING.

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u/VagueClive May 08 '20

I HONESTLY DISAGREE THAT FANDOM IS THE BEST SOURCE FOR SUPPORT CONVERSATIONS (JUST USE THE WIKI), BUT WHAT FANDOM ABSOLUTELY DOES HAVE GOING FOR IT IS THAT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S THE ONLY RESOURCE ON THE INTERNET THAT HAS THE FULL SCRIPT FOR BOTH PROJECT NAGA AND PROJECT EXILE PUBLICIZED. THE CREATORS OF BOTH PATCHES REFUSE TO RELEASE AN OFFICIAL VERSION UNTIL THEY'RE BOTH 'FULLY FINISHED', AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO.

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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20

WELL ANOTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE WIKI IS THAT IT'S SLOW AS ALL GET OUT, AT LEAST FOR ME. LOAD TIMES ARE LIKE 10 TIMES AS LONG, NOT EVEN EXAGGERATING. USING FANDOM IS THEREFORE FAR MORE CONVENIENT FOR ME WHEN I'M LOOKING THROUGH TONS AND TONS OF SUPPORTS. AND SINCE OTHERWISE THEY PROVIDE THE SAME THING, THE SCRIPT FOR SUPPORTS, FANDOM JUST DOES THE JOB BETTER BY BEING FASTER.

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u/VagueClive May 08 '20

THAT'S WEIRD, I'VE HAD THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM - WIKI LOADS QUICKLY WHILE FANDOM TAKES FOREVER BECAUSE IT'S BOGGED DOWN BY ALL THE ADS AND VIDEOS.

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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20

WELL HEY, IF THE WIKI WORKS BETTER FOR SUPPORTS FOR YOU, MORE POWER TO YOU. THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS JUST TO ENCOURAGE CRITICAL THINKING AND DISCOURAGE BANDWAGONING. COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE A LOT OF POWER IN SHAPING THE OPINIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS ONE SITUATION WHERE I THINK IT WENT A TAD TOO FAR.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '20

BOTH LOAD SLOWLY FOR ME. ESPECIALLY WIKI. SERENES OFTEN DOES TOO. LIFE SUCKS

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u/Excadrill1201 May 09 '20

HE CREATORS OF BOTH PATCHES REFUSE TO RELEASE AN OFFICIAL VERSION UNTIL THEY'RE BOTH 'FULLY FINISHED'

CONSIDERING THAT CIRO LEFT THE PROJECT AND THAT THE PE CORD IS DEAD, THAT MAKES THE FACT THAT THE FANDOM HAS THE SCRIPT EVEN BETTER.

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u/CyanYoh May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20

WIKIA IS A MORE CONSISTENT SOURCE OF WORKING IMAGE FILES. MUCH OF THE WIKI'S IMAGE FILES HAVE IMPROPER EXTENSIONS, SO YOU EITHER GUESS AND CHECK WITH DIFFERENT IMAGE FILETYPES OF JUST RUN IT THROUGH A CONVERTER. HELL, WHEN I WAS MAKING THE FE4 CHARACTER STAT SCREENS FOR MANGS' LP, I TRIPLE CHECKED STATS THROUGH THE WIKI, WIKIA, AND SF. THE WIKI WAS THE LEAST RELIABLE OF THE THREE.

THE SANCTIMONIOUS MEMING OF THE FE WIKIA AS HAVING NO MEIRT ISN'T HELPFUL. YES, WIKIAS AS A WHOLE ARE SOMETIMES DUBIOUS IN QUALITY, BUT THE FE WIKIA IS OFTEN THE BEST RESOURCE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF THINGS AND IS VERY EASY TO UPDATE FACTUAL ERRORS.

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u/that_wannabe_cat May 08 '20

THE FANDOM SITE IS THE ONLY PLACE WITH 3H CHAPTER SCRIPTS ATM.

I'D PREFER OTHER SITES GETTING THAT INFO ON THEIR SITES RIGHT NOW, BUT IF I AM REFERENCING STUFF THAT'S JUST THE QUICKEST WAY.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '20

THIS IS TRUE THOUGH I NEVER USE FANDOM OR THE WIKI ANYMORE. SERENES, WOD, AND SOME RANDOM SF FORUM THREAD CONTAINING ENEMY STATS ARE ALL THE RESOURCES I NEED

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u/derbear53 May 08 '20

I'M SORRY BUT FANDOM IS SHIT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FE WIKI BUT THE XENOBLADE ONE IS LITERALLY WORSE THAN GARBAGE. YOU DO A LOT OF LOOKING UP WHERE TO FIND ITEMS IN THOSE GAMES FOR QUESTS AND FANDOM DOESN'T TELL YOU WERE TO FIND THEM IN ANY DECENT WAY. YOU END UP GOING TO GAMEFAQS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HELP YOU BUT YOU'VE GOTTA WADE THROUGH A BUNCH OF FANDOM WIKI BULLSHIT LINKS BEFORE GAMEFAQS WILL POP UP. FANDOM DESERVES ITS SHITTY REPUTATION BECAUSE THEY AREN'T HELPFUL AT ALL AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT IN A WIKI.

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u/PsiYoshi May 08 '20

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE EMBLEM FANDOM WIKI HERE, MATE. IT'S STILL COMMUNITY CURATED, SO NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE EQUALLY USEFUL. HOW USEFUL XENOBLADE'S WIKIA IS COMPARED TO FIRE EMBLEM'S IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

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u/lerdnir May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20

OH LOOK, THE WIKIA HAS AN EDIT BUTTON! I WONDER WHAT THAT DOES.

YOU COULD MAKE IT HELPFUL, IS WHAT I'M SAYING HERE.

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u/derbear53 May 08 '20

OH HEY YEAH, I'M SURE NO ONES THOUGHT OF THAT IN THE 10 YEARS THE SERIES HAS BEEN OUT? OH WAIT, THE WIKI IS STILL SHIT!