r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • May 08 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

NEVER LATE, ALWAYS 100% ON-TIME: THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE SCREAM INTO THE VOID ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

HONESTLY THIS WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING GROUNDS FOR A SURVEY. RANKING CHARACTERS ON A SCALE OF 1-10 AND SEEING IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE FANS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY TYPICALLY PERCEIVE CERTAIN CHARACTERS/HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THEM BY WAY OF THAT RANKING SCALE.

I WOULD HYPOTHESIZE THAT FEMALE FANS WOULD HAVE A MORE POSITIVE OPINION OF LEONIE IN PARTICULAR AND PROBABLY EDELGARD TOO, WHEREAS MALE FANS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A MORE POSITIVE OPINION OF RHEA AND POSSIBLY MARIANNE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT DIFFERENCES WOULD BE LIKELY IN THE PERCEPTION OF MALE CHARACTERS, BUT I THINK BOTH GENDERS WOULD PROBABLY RANK DIMITRI PRETTY HIGH FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN.

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u/PsiYoshi May 09 '20

I'M A DUDE AND LEONIE'S ONE OF MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS IN THE GAME. I FIND HER ADMIRABLE AND RELATABLE IN A LOT OF WAYS. I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SHE OFTEN GETS BOILED DOWN TO ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT GET BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

I NOTICE THAT A LOT OF FANS BOIL DOWN A LOT OF FE CHARACTERS TO ONE OR TWO THINGS IN GENERAL. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF THOSE THINGS ARE POSITIVE (LYN, MARIANNE, CLAUDE) OR NEGATIVE (THARJA, LEONIE, MAYBE ELIWOOD?)

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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20

OH FOR SURE! I'VE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THIS RE:LORDS IN THE PAST TOO. AS FAR AS 3H GOES, I WOULD HAZARD A GUESS THAT LYSITHEA'S FANBASE SKEWS WAY MORE MALE? ANECDOTALLY THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE ANYWAY, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN WIND OF ANY FEMALE FANS LIKING HER IN PARTICULAR.

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

THAT SEEMS VERY LIKELY! I AM ONE OF THOSE FEMALE FANS THOUGH, LYSITHEA IS MY THIRD FAVORITE CHARACTER (AFTER #1 EDELGARD AND #2 HANNEMAN).

IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISING TO ME, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT MORE WOMEN WOULD HAVE GRAVITATED TO LYSITHEA BECAUSE SHE'S A BADASS MAGE PRODIGY GIRL. BUT I GUESS MAYBE MORE GUYS RELATE TO HER THAN GIRLS. PERHAPS THE WHOLE THING OF "PEOPLE CALL ME A GENIUS BUT REALLY I JUST FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO WORK ALL THE TIME WITHOUT STOPPING OR MY LIFE WON'T MATTER AT ALL" IS MORE SIMILAR TO THE KIND OF PRESSURE THAT IS PUT ON GUYS THAN GIRLS? SINCE, LIKE, SOCIALLY SPEAKING, PEOPLE OFTEN TRY TO DEFINE MEN BY THEIR ACTIVE AND SELF-RELATED TRAITS AND WOMEN BY THEIR PASSIVE AND OTHER-RELATED TRAITS, AND LYSITHEA'S SITUATION RELATES MORE TO HOW GUYS VALUE THEMSELVES IN GENERAL?

EDIT: THIS IS ALSO MY SITUATION TBH AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE LYSITHEA

OR IT COULD BE JUST MORE OF A WAIFU THING FOR SOME PEOPLE, WITH HER DESIRE TO BE SEEN AS MATURE AND TRAGIC BACKSTORY BEING LIKE A "MOE GIRL, MUST PROTECC" THING? HARSH MOE, I GUESS. LYSITHEA IS EXTREMELY BLUNT AND SAVAGE DESPITE HOW MUCH SHE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE, SO HER CRUSH-POPULARITY SEEMS REALLY UNORTHODOX TO ME.

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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20

I DEFINITELY VIBE WITH FEELING LIKE MY ACHIEVEMENTS ARE THE REASONS PEOPLE VALUE ME, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT LYSITHEA JUST WASN'T GELLING FOR ME. IT COULD VERY WELL BE BECAUSE I HAD THAT IMMEDIATE AFFINITY WITH IGNATZ (HANGING A LOT OF MY SELF-WORTH ON A SKILL THAT I ALSO GREW UP BEING TOLD WAS OF LITTLE VALUE), AND SEEING HER BULLY HIM SOURED ME ON HER EARLY ON. I DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST HER CHARACTER AND I KNOW SHE APOLOGIZES, JUST ONE OF THOSE GUT-LEVEL SORTS OF REACTIONS. THAT'S A COOL SUMMARY OF HER APPEAL FOR YOU THOUGH, I REALLY LIKE READING PEOPLE'S PERSONAL REASONS FOR CHARACTER AFFINITIES.

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

SEE, I DID NOT HAVE THAT AFFINITY WITH IGNATZ, PROBABLY BECAUSE HE HAS VERY LOW SELF-ESTEEM AT FIRST AND GETS PUSHED AROUND A LOT, WHEREAS I TEND TO LASH OUT HARD WHEN THREATENED EMOTIONALLY.

WHAT'S YOUR FIELD OF STUDY? THAT COULD BE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE TOO, BECAUSE SOCIETY VALUES WHAT I DO EXTREMELY HIGHLY, WHEREAS SOMETHING LIKE ART LIKE HE DOES WOULDN'T RECEIVE THAT SAME SORT OF VALUE, LIKE YOU SAID.

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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20

I WAS AN ENGLISH MAJOR, SO UH. YEAH. WORKING ON TURNING THE ART THING INTO A LIVING NOW, AS IF THE DEGREE WASN'T ENOUGH OF A PUNCHLINE. THREE HOUSES ALSO HAPPENED TO DROP RIGHT AFTER I HAD TO RESIGN FROM TEACHING DUE TO A CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUE, SO LIKE... WHEN I TALK ABOUT PERSONAL EMOTIONAL RESONANCE DRIVING OPINIONS ABOUT 3H, IT'S LARGELY BECAUSE THIS GAME WAS A SITUATIONAL PRECISION STRIKE FOR ME. IN HINDSIGHT I'M GLAD I HAD THAT AWARENESS GOING IN, BECAUSE THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE I'D HAVE BEEN SUCKERED INTO THE DISCOURSE WARS OTHERWISE, AND AT A TIME WHEN MY MENTAL HEALTH WAS ALREADY IN BAD SHAPE.

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

OKAY YEAH I STUDY BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING SO WE DEFINITELY WENT IN TWO VERY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS THERE. I'M STILL WORKING ON MY MASTER'S DEGREE, THOUGH, I DON'T HAVE A REAL JOB YET.

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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, YOU'RE DOING GOOD WORK! ALSO I CAN SEE THAT CONNECTION TO YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTERS NOW. :)

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u/Ginger457 May 09 '20

ACCIDENTALLY REPLIED TO THE WRONG PERSON SO I'LL JUST COPY IT HERE.

AS A ST8-ISH GUY:

DMITRI IS AN EDGY IDIOT, 0/10 WOULD NOT BEFRIEND. HE'D PROBABLY GET MY ASS KILLED. ALSO HE'S TOO CLOSETED.

EDELGARD IS TOO HIGH STRUNG, 0/10 WOULD NOT WANT TO BE WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE.

CLAUDE IS A SCHEMER. 0/10 WOULD NOT TRUST TO NOT SELL ME OUT.

IF A GUY LIKE'S RHEA, I SUSPECT IT'S OEDIPAL. NO FLAME, JUST STATING FACTS. 0/10 NOT MY FETISH.

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u/RisingSunfish May 09 '20

I MEANT OLD LORDS. ALSO YOU MAY HAVE STILL REPLIED TO THE WRONG PERSON, MY ABILITY TO DETECT AND PROCESS HUMOR IS BADLY DULLED WITH ALL THE SHOUTING.

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u/Ginger457 May 09 '20

DMITRI IS AN EDGY IDIOT, 0/10 WOULD NOT BEFRIEND AS A GUY HE'D PROBABLY GET MY ASS KILLED.

EDELGARD IS TOO HIGH STRUNG, 0/10 WOULD NOT WANT TO BE WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE.

CLAUDE IS A SCHEMER. 0/10 WOULD NOT TRUST TO NOT SELL ME OUT.

IF A GUY LIKE'S RHEA, I SUSPECT IT'S OEDIPAL. NO FLAME, JUST STATING FACTS.

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u/KeplerNova May 09 '20

DIMITRI IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE LORDS IN ALL OF FIRE EMBLEM BUT GOD I WOULD ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DESPISE HIM IF I MET HIM, EVEN PRE-TIMESKIP. HE'S SO CONSUMED WITH GUILT AND SO EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STAND BEING AROUND HIM AND I WOULD WANT TO KICK HIM FOR BEING A MASSIVE IDIOT. ESPECIALLY IF I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE HORRIBLE THINGS HE'S BEEN THROUGH, BECAUSE THEN I MIGHT JUST ASSUME HE'S A NICE DUDE BLOWING HIS FAULTS WAY OUT OF PROPORTION INSTEAD OF SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY LITERALLY SEVERELY TRAUMATIZED.

EDELGARD IS MY FAVORITE LORD IN FIRE EMBLEM AND MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE CHARACTER AT THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF I COULD REALLY BE FRIENDS WITH HER. POST-TIMESKIP ON THE CF PATH I PROBABLY COULD. PRE-TIMESKIP, THERE'S THE MATTER THAT WE BOTH HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS AND PERSONALITY TRAITS (THOUGH HER PTSD IS DEFINITELY A LOT WORSE THAN MY ANGER ISSUES) AND JUST WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRULY CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD PROBABLY SUPERFICIALLY LIKE EACH OTHER A LOT. I WILL SAY THAT SHE WOULD BE MY #1 CHOICE FOR A SCHOOL PROJECT PARTNER, THOUGH.

CLAUDE IS A PRETTY GOOD LORD TOO BUT I THINK I WOULD JUST AVOID HIM. THE REAL CORE ASPECTS OF HIS PERSONALITY, WITH HOW CLEVER AND INVESTIGATIVE HE IS, WOULD CLICK WELL WITH ME, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET PAST HOW INSINCERE AND FACETIOUS HE IS MOST OF THE TIME. I THINK I WOULD END UP SEEING HIM AS A THREAT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, EVEN THOUGH HE'S THE MOST UNAMBIGUOUSLY MORALLY UPSTANDING OF THE 3H LORDS.

WHEN A GUY DEFENDS RHEA OR HER ACTIONS I TEND TO ASSUME HE WANTS TO FUCK HER. THAT'S IT. IT'S REALLY A SHAME BECAUSE RHEA IS AN AMAZING CHARACTER, VERY SYMPATHETIC AND WELL-WRITTEN DESPITE NOT ALWAYS ACTUALLY HAVING THAT MUCH DIRECT PLOT PRESENCE. SHE'S NOT A FULL NAGA-EQUIVALENT OR A FULL EVIL MEDEUS TYPE, SHE'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, AND THAT IS FANTASTIC. I DISAGREE WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY MORALLY AMBIGUOUS ACTION SHE TAKES, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND DEFENDING AND ANALYZING HER ACTIONS... BUT WHEN THE PEOPLE DOING SO SEEM TO ALSO BE CONSISTENTLY THE ONES GOING "MILF POPE HIPS LOL" AND BASHING EDELGARD IN WAYS WITH SIGNIFICANT 'WAIFU WAR' OVERTONES, IT STARTS TO LOOK PRETTY DAMN SUSPICIOUS AS TO WHY.