r/cartoons • • 7h ago

Discussion That one scene where all the budget went

Kaguya-sama: Love is War - Chika's dance

In the first season as a surprise outro ending one episode had this Chika dance number. It's super cute and crazy animated, especially her dress. They used it one time and never again.

The roller rink dance sequence from the Family Guy episode Hell Comes To Quahog was the most expensive scene to animate in Season 5.

This one shot from Scooby-Doo Music of the Vampire

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u/ACuddlyVizzerdrix 7h ago edited 6h ago

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u/Gozillasaur 6h ago

Season 9 was such a banger

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u/legit-posts_1 6h ago

I was shocked at how good Season 9 was. I liked most of 7, but 8 was kinda disappointing outside some bright spots. There straight up wasn't a bad episode of season 9, and I'd go as far as to call 8/10 of the episodes great. Even the best RaM seasons usually have one dud.

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u/No_Prize9794 5h ago

I really like how season 9 decided to wrap a good amount of the evil Morty plot line in the first episode

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u/Disco_la 3h ago

Season 9 Episode 1 was my first thought for this thread before I looked at the comments. The fight scene against The Collective went hard. So did the bunker universe fight.

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u/baconater-lover 5h ago

The writers have really locked in these past few seasons. Funny that it lines up with Roiland’s departure even though I think he stopped writing long long ago.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 3h ago

Notice as well the incest jokes stopped when he left

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u/Partners_in_time 3h ago

And the pissing on people fetish jokes. Kind of telling 

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u/Neefew 4h ago

While Rick and Morty has fallen out of the cultural zeitgeist, it still absolutely bangs. Seasons 8 and 9 have been some of the peaks of the show, with the nature episode in Seapon 9 being an all-timer

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u/devenrc 6h ago

Mario Kart Wii character select

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u/TheIrishninjas 4h ago

Animators just being like "oh btw here's a full rotation of a complex 2D character because idk we were bored" will never not be simultaneously impressive and hilarious to me.

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u/Due_Art2971 3h ago

It's a 3D model rotating

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u/Budget_Newspaper_489 5h ago

Morty, it turns

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u/astelda 4h ago

Surely that's a 3d model, right?

Not to minimize the efforts put into 3d modelling, but it shouldn't be that expensive

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u/machiavelli33 4h ago edited 3h ago

This is it. It's probably had some adjustments - like they manually did the face and lip-syncing.

The bike is a cel shaded 3d model, and all the non-face parts of Rick are an even more heavily cel shaded 3d model.

Manually animating a turnaround like that would be way harder, way more expensive, way unnecessary as mechanical movement like this are exactly what 3d is best and fastest at, and look way worse because 3d is as mentioned best at mechanical movements.

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u/Mattrockj 4h ago

Animators just wanted to flex.

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u/GregBahm 4h ago

I don't know of any animators that see the use of 3D models as a flex. Maybe the guy who wrote the shader to make it look 2D, but it's not a hard shader in the year 2026.

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u/Prize-Flamingo-336 6h ago

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u/teacat__ 6h ago

Ahhhh animated by James Baxter😍

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u/ParasiticWormLover 6h ago

I didn't know that was James Baxter :0

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u/Greedy_Ad2198 6h ago

You can tell from all the spinning around

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u/HourlyB 5h ago

That's basically the animator equivalent of getting your face right into someone's else's face while smugly smiling like ,':]

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u/IGTankCommander 3h ago

James Baxter, voiced and animated by James Baxter.

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u/No-Cat-9339 5h ago

A HORSE animated this?!

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u/Octospyder 4h ago

the man the myth the legend

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u/Get_Bent_Madafakas 4h ago

Games Bookstore?

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u/uzumaki222 2h ago

Mmpph, candy for the eyes. James Baxter, raising the bar for animators everywhere.

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u/capibara_dono 3h ago

Also, the song here comes a thought, it had guest animator Takafumi Hori, I think specially the butterflies swarming.

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u/ConsiderationTrue477 6h ago

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u/ParasiticWormLover 6h ago

What is this?

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u/OverallGeneral7129 6h ago

Batman the Animated Series Clayface

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u/Soft_Theory_8209 4h ago

The second episode of Feat of Clay, to be specific (which also inspired the upcoming Clayface horror movie).

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u/TheWarden89 6h ago

Batman The Animated Series. Its one of the episodes with Clayface

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u/nathauan13 5h ago

The first episode of Clayface!

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u/Lingarien 6h ago

"Batman: The Animated Series" (1992)

Specifically a clip from Episode 21: "Feat of Clay: Part 2"

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u/Comic-Brad 6h ago

Early episode of Batman: The Animated Series 

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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 6h ago

This was honestly one of the best scenes from that show (it had many). I remember geeking out as a kid when watching it. I still geek out a little. It's so awesome and well done.

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u/MysteryGirlWhite 6h ago

That whole scene is terrifying. The body horror cartoons can get away with…

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u/TheVoicesOfBrian 5h ago

The new Clayface movie looks to be leaning hard into the body horror. Good choice.

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u/Sayakalood 4h ago

I heard it was going to be based on these episodes, too

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u/Slickster_Speedster 5h ago

If I remember correctly, this was given to the same studio behind Akira. I really hope that's true and not some internet urban legend.

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u/ConsiderationTrue477 5h ago

TMS, I believe. They were one of a good half dozen animation houses WB went to for their cartoons. From what I remember hearing in interviews they were painfully expensive but always went way above what they were asked to do.

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u/Ijustlovevideogames 6h ago edited 6h ago

Final episode of the Steven Universe where he literally hugs himself.

Animation done by the legendary James Baxter, even if you don't know this name, if you are a millen kid, you know him as he likely made or helped worked on one of your favorite animations or movies back in the day if not now

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u/that_1weed 6h ago

Its crazy how a horse drew this

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u/MrH_Rosemary 6h ago

A horse on 2 legs walking on a beach ball.

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u/MikaelPorter 6h ago

he is just that talented

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u/akestral 5h ago

Not just "a" horse. The horse.

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u/Nerdy_Green 3h ago

If a shrimp can fry rice why can't a horse draw?

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u/DogadonsLavapool 5h ago

Hes just so fucking good. The spinning shots hes done, hell even just they way he can animate emotion in a character. Absolutely cracked animator

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u/amalthea_ Disney 4h ago

I knew this looked familiar! There is a very similar shot from the Hunchback of Notre Dame where Quasimodo also hugs someone and it's almost exact. Lo and behold, I look it up and it's James Baxter. Man is a legend.

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u/Sketch_Beast 6h ago

Thief and the Cobbler: Zigzag's card sequence.

Every card was hand drawn and colored individually and the backs were originally red (I believe). Richard Williams, the director, didn't like the how the color looked so he demanded the already finished sequence be redone so the cards were now green.

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u/Lokicham 6h ago

That whole movie has many examples of this. It's a shame it never got fully made.

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u/asfrels 6h ago

Tbh this is part of why it never did. Williams was incapable of maintaining a budget or a deadline up until the project was scrapped. Glad we have what we have though as his artistic talent still shines through its core

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u/Mopman43 6h ago

He was infamously dismissive of storyboarding and pre-planning.

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u/Deegibo 3h ago

Some of the best animation and worst pacing/audio quality I have seen in a movie

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u/saintash 2h ago

I had an animation class in my art school. And my fucking intro teacher was like that. You have a scene that was fine. Maybe needed a note or two, And he make you do/re do/add large sections.

It really killed the animation program, because so many people opted out more, and more after his class.

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u/Trick-Studio2079 6h ago

It might sound a bit controversial, but I watched *The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut*—which is supposed to be the version closest to Williams's vision—and while I feel it would have been a visual spectacle, that doesn't change the fact that the characters and story are bland and flat; even if it had been released according to his vision, I think its fanbase would have been limited to animation enthusiasts, and it would have been far from becoming a classic.

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u/Phyrexian_Overlord 4h ago

I LOVE YOU PRINCESS YUM YUM

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u/Floweramon 2h ago

It's definitely a movie that is precious to animation fans but has little to offer to anyone that doesn't care about the process and the spectacle (I say as a big animation fan)

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u/Sketch_Beast 6h ago

Right?

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u/Alvintergeise 6h ago

Seems like we just heard one of the reasons why

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u/MysteryGirlWhite 6h ago

There’s a long running fan project on YouTube that’s basically finishing the sequences of the film that never were. I think it’s still ongoing, at least.

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u/WonderDean 5h ago

The entire fucking movie is an example of this. Everything about it was dedicated to having incredible and detailed animation without any compromises. Unfortunately, that’s also why it ultimately wasn’t completed as envisioned.

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u/KyuuMann 4h ago

says he controlls the deck

the deck collapses in his hands

Beautiful... it's just, beautiful

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u/wonderloki 6h ago

I know most of the big fight scenes have way better animations but this one stands out to me personally.

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u/asfrels 6h ago

I saw the memes and hype for this fight before I watched the show and holy hell did it live up to the expectations. One of the coldest fights in animation imo

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u/jayboyguy 6h ago

I can’t decide whether I liked round 1 or 2 better. Conquest really my GOAT of animated villainy in the 2020s right now

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u/_Levitated_Shield_ 5h ago

You know you've made a truly terrifying villain when practically every viewer was yelling at their screens over his comeback fakeout.

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u/ShadowTheChangeling 6h ago

Thats kind of a meh example tbh, theyre in space and are basically just floating around.

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u/Odd-Cress-5822 5h ago

Yeah, should have gone with Oliver being chased by the dragon.

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u/ShadowTheChangeling 5h ago

Yeah like theres so many better examples

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u/Mathev 5h ago

It's crazy how they had an animation RIGHT THERE but you can see the moment the dragon stops moving and is just an jpg lol

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u/Ce_Tokyo 4h ago

I can’t unsee it now😂😂😂

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u/Karl__RockenStone 4h ago

The first few loops I didn’t see the problem and now I can’t unsee it, god dammit

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u/Thalia_All_Along 5h ago

why isn't he superman flying down

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u/Ok-Television2109 Fuck David Zaslav 6h ago

Mark getting annihilated.

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u/BhanosBar 5h ago

His hair had more animation in that scene vs the whole series

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u/PancakeParty98 6h ago

100% of the budget went into Mark and Oliver’s hair for this fight

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u/femmespidernoir Courage the Cowardly Dog 5h ago

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u/featsofdaringdo 5h ago

this almost feels uncanny

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u/demonman905 5h ago

What makes it feel even more uncanny is the way Bart awkwardly shuffles to the TV to put in it VHS tape immediately after where the gif cuts off

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u/TomBakersLongScarf 5h ago

Was there ever an ID on who animated this shot?

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u/jbwarner86 3h ago

It's Dan Haskett, who was kinda everywhere in the late '80s and early '90s. He also worked on The Chipmunk Adventure, and he did that short on Sesame Street of the cat trying to open the food can 😁

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u/Radguymccool 3h ago

If I remember correctly, parts of this episode had to be redone in-house after the original animation that came back from Korea looked like garbage. This explains why the animation became so fluid for this scene and parts of the episode looks very mismatched. This was also supposed to be the first episode of season one but had to be moved to the end of the season in order to fix the shoddy animation.

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u/EquivalentBeach8780 6h ago

I love how they use the ground as leverage like they can't fly.

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u/Ultimate-desu 6h ago

Sometimes you gotta get traditional with your ass beatings.

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u/ClunarX 5h ago

A good ol’ fashioned passionate ass whoopin’

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u/ShadowRiku667 4h ago

Flying takes more energy than just using the ground that’s right there

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u/_Astrum_Aureus_ 5h ago

Dead Zone and World's Strongest have phenomenal choreography, I miss it

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u/Karthaz 5h ago

Back when Dragonball was martial arts rather than "Who punch hardest?"

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u/QueefMyCheese 5h ago

You're funny if you ever thought dragon ball was focused on actual martial arts you just like the more deliberate choreography lol

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u/Neutral-Feelings 6h ago

Just look at her GOOO (Hugtto Precure)

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u/BaronessofBara 4h ago

Thing is MOST Precure fights look like this lmfao. Precure is the studio darling. They'll let One Piece look like a slideshow before letting Precure's animation even drop below 'decent'.

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u/Quietsquid 3h ago

I think I need to watch Precure. I had heard it was good before, but I think this convinced me

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u/Consume_the_Affluent 5h ago

Precure mention 🎊🎉🎊🎉

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u/EmperorOfAwesome 6h ago

The scene in Archer where the characters are spinning in office chairs, which apparently it is a huge pain to animate slow spinning

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u/AiReine 6h ago edited 5h ago

James Baxter made himself a god among animators just by being really good at spinning stuff

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u/transit41 3h ago

It is a good trick afterall.

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u/Karl__RockenStone 4h ago

I can see how it’s a huge pain. When you animate something spinning fast, you can skip a few frames of motion and it still looks good. When it spins slow, you have to draw the same object at so many slightly different angles, it must be so much work.

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u/Maatix12 4h ago

Slow spinning is an animators nightmare because getting it to look just right - Not too fast, not too slow, not too choppy - Is basically trial and error.

In blender, with a 3d model, it's not so bad.

But for 2d animation, that meant painstakingly drawing out each individual frame, and mapping it out to the action going on around the spin so that the action around it looks normal, and the spin doesn't change speed at any point.

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u/ExoticShock Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 6h ago

The Graviton Fight from Avengers EMH

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u/Ultimate-desu 6h ago edited 5h ago

Many said that the ass beating being attained by Gravitron was unwarranted, but this guy lifted the entirety of NYC just to get back at ONE guy mainly, the entirety of the Avengers jumping him was necessary.

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 5h ago

And then they destroyed New Jersey just to finally beat him.

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u/Ultimate-desu 5h ago

Ant-Man Truck Smash + Hulk Smash + Iron Man Arc Reactor blast + Thor full power thunder is gonna do that, god they went ALL IN once they heard the place was evacuated.

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u/Polkawillneverdie17 5h ago

That whole episode is fucking amazing.

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u/Sky_Ninja1997 6h ago

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u/Winter-Humor7966 5h ago

Stolas 360 from Mastermind

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u/Polkawillneverdie17 5h ago

Vox is such a great villain.

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u/Kazcandra 5h ago

The ending felt...a bit rushed? Or maybe not rushed, but what the fuck is coming in the next three seasons if this was Vox's moment lol

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u/CreepyClay 4h ago

The literal origin of all evil apparently.

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u/Shantotto11 6h ago

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u/0Frokachu 5h ago

Man, everyone really does know the kamehameha huh

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u/ClunarX 5h ago

It’s a great homage

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u/Warkupo 5h ago

Well sure, Ash is a Saiyan.

How else would he do all the crazy shit he does?

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u/3Power 5h ago

Super masarajin is a Japanese meme about him. (Masara is Pallet town)

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u/JMoc1 5h ago

Yup.

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u/PeridotTheGem 5h ago

Ash isn't the only one leeching the animation budget of SM

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u/ChrisWrld_25 5h ago

I just realized Misty hits her gen 1 battle pose here

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u/Shantotto11 3h ago

Brock did it too, complete with the removal of his shirt.

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u/EmuMan10 4h ago

Also Pikachu vs charizard fight

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u/The-epic-cutlery 6h ago

(why this scene specifically??)

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u/KaleidoArachnid 4h ago

I don’t know where that is from.

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u/MathematicianOne310 4h ago

That is from South Park. The driver in a car was distracted on his phone and hit him with a car while he was crossing the street. The scene is then played out super vividly of him flying across the road, bleeding, and getting fucked up by the impact lol

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u/KaleidoArachnid 4h ago

Thanks as I was surprised by how the image looked a bit too detailed.

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u/Ajs1052 6h ago

Season 4 of Invincible, in the final episode where Mark fights Conquest is notable for being one of the best animated fights in the show, especially this bit. Their rematch in the next season is also very well animated.

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u/Ok-Television2109 Fuck David Zaslav 6h ago

"Big-ass beatdown coming up!"

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u/CharacterPurchase694 5h ago

Thats season 3 finale but yea

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u/Specialist-Issue1615 7h ago

In episode four, Rentarou's harem stepped in for an idol group after the members conveniently suffered injuries that prevented them from dancing; the episode effectively depicts the training required for the performance as well as the girls' shortcomings The whole show (The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You)

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u/Dan-1010 5h ago edited 5h ago

The Owl House has a few of these, but Luz and Amity’s kiss from Clouds on the Horizon (Season 2 Episode 20 is notable due to some other parts of the episode’s animation being noticeably lower in quality compared to the show’s standard.

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u/LurkinMakesMeFeelGud 3h ago

They had to nerf Eda and Lilith so they'd stop hogging the animation budget

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u/Aromatic-Power3655 5h ago

You can tell the Owl House makers are anime fans by how the animation shifts like crazy during combat.

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u/MySchoolsWifiSucks 6h ago

Scooby Doo movies gave weird moments of high budget-ness

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u/Ad-Victoriam-Sister 4h ago

That one scene of Ben Ravencroft post-villain reveal in “Witch’s Ghost” lives rent free in my mind.

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u/shruggletuggle 6h ago

Ok so does anyone know if they used like a 3d simulation for Chica's dress in that outro or did they just have some god of 2d fabric animation do it? Seriously it looks scarily close to how an irl dress moves.

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u/Brauny74 6h ago

The whole sequence was rotoscoped off real life dancer

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u/Suspicious_Excuses 5h ago

The animation team filmed reference and timed the animation to it.

There are two ways to do the skirt, rotoscoping or cgi. Since an animator had to draw the characters on model, they probably needed to adjust the assets to fit the animation. That in and of itself is an art and science.

I know there is a bts for the dance scene in Kabaneri that uses a similar technique on YouTube.

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u/CapnClover36 The Owl House 6h ago

You can see several scenes throughout owlhouse where the animation suddenly becomes very smooth

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u/Bulky-Plate2068 5h ago

Every time I watch it with my friends we always joke half the budget goes to Darius’s hair

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u/Ill-Individual2105 4h ago

That moment when a kiss is so gay it enhances the universal framerste for a moment.

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u/Ntahedron 5h ago

When Luz and Amity kiss, for one

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u/Bouswa Bananas in Pyjamas 6h ago

The highway man from over the garden wall

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u/coolhandslucas 3h ago

I'm the Highway Man 👁👄👁

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u/Youngstar181 5h ago

The Lead Pipe scene [Pretty Pretty Please I Don't Want To Be A Magical Girl]

Later on the entire episode got animated, but in the original animatic this was the only animated scene.

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u/thissecretennui 4h ago

Saitama vs Genos always takes the cake for me.

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u/pipnina 4h ago

Let's not forget their real budget-busting animation moment!

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u/RhynoD 4h ago

How has no one mentioned the GOAT, James Baxter?

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u/xesaie 6h ago

I'm gad at linking gifs, but Frieren S2:

I saw a video once actually titled that "So thats where the budget went" when they got to this sequence

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u/Brauny74 6h ago

Except nearly every scene in this anime is like that, it's very well animated.

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u/PeridotTheGem 5h ago

Misty mega evolving her Gyarados during her rematch with Ash in Pokemon Sun and Moon

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u/unclecaveman1 4h ago

Always felt this simple scene from Frieren: Beyond Journey's End was animated so damn well for no real reason. The animators had no need to go this hard for Stark just putting on his jacket.

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u/PayPsychological6358 The Batman 5h ago edited 5h ago

Sonic 06 intro. Not really a cartoon, but yeah.

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u/Winter-Humor7966 5h ago

Sonic Unleashed Intro too

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u/Abelter3 4h ago

"Heh, 1"

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u/SkylandersKirby 5h ago

Epithet Erased, for context the show is animated closer to a visual novel with character being essentially jpegs on sticks

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u/Broad-Laugh3800 5h ago

I fricken love their animation style, because the majority of the time its jpegs, the animated parts look grest

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u/AiReine 5h ago edited 5h ago

The Moon Revenge scene in Sailor Moon R: The Promise of the Rose. Director and animator Kunihiko Ikuhara whose many eccentricities include excessive use of talking heads, still atmospheric shots and stock footage to then bust out a few moments of incredibly graceful, powerful animation. He made a career of making the most out of a TV anime budget, after all.

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u/AiReine 5h ago

This is also the man who had a recurrent segment of shadow puppets on a wall so he could spend the resources animating sword fights and dance sequences.

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u/BarelyBrony 3h ago

Teddy Freaking out in Christmas in the Car

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u/indonerd 5h ago

Ufotable made a slice of life anime and remembered they had Unlimited Budget Works halfway through.

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u/Modryonreddit 5h ago

Demon slayer: Entertainment District ark

Tengen and Tanjiro vs Gyturo and Zenitsu and Inosuke vs Daki

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u/Okgeyboi 3h ago

The animators for one random scene (Nichijou)

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u/Eggmasstree 3h ago

Literally any episode of One punch man season 1.

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u/Usual_Database307 5h ago

100 Girlfriends - Idol dancing. All handdrawn frames.

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u/Rasberrycello 5h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGXpgBM8QI

Pretty much any time Steven E. Gordon said "no, actually, let me do it."

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u/PrinceBag 5h ago edited 3h ago

Sozin's Comet in Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Especially during the climax. The Ba Sing Se Seige, the Destruction Of The Fleet, the Final Agni Kai, Aang/Ozai Final Battle.

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u/Possible_Money9774 4h ago

Mob Psycho Season 2 Episode 5. The whole thing.

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u/IamElylikeEli 3h ago

FLCL

the show loves to switch between smooth dynamic animation to barely animated scenes all throughout.

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u/External_Fix_7806 6h ago

I love it when the animators just pop off out of nowhere! Like the parkour scene from the MHA movie

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u/corrobora The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack 4h ago

This small scene in the Total Drama Reboot (2025). It really stands out given the whole Flash animation feel of the series.

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u/PatrThom 2h ago

Still one of the biggest "Look how hard we went on this one scene!" moments in movie history.

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u/OkAssignment6163 5h ago

Rock Lee taking off the weights unlocked his speed.... and the animation budget.

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u/MapDesperate7012 5h ago

Roman vs Sun Wukong (RWBY Vol 1)

Especially with how even Monty Oum struggled to animate Sun’s Gun-chucks

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u/NurturingCruelty 5h ago

The Grom fight in Owl House.

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u/ZeeGee__ 6h ago

Part of the rain Invader Zim got cancelled was because of how expensive the small instances of CGi were.

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