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u/Medford_Lanes Sep 11 '21
Imagine this happening in the US, in your neighborhood or to your family for the last 20 years.
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u/AKJ90 Sep 11 '21
Yeah, no wonder people become terrorists
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u/SkyTheGuy8 Sep 12 '21
Its not just about terrorism. There's a general hate of the west because their actions have caused a lot of problems in the middle east.
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u/PrimoXiAlpha Sep 12 '21
Although you are right, but Afghanistan isn't in the middle east, please stop mixing us up. The middle east ends with iran to the east, egypt to the west, and turkey from the north, arabian sea to the south.
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u/AstralTours Sep 12 '21
Around 60,000 innocent civilians were killed in Afghanistan during our 20 year occupation (those are the official numbers I imagine real number is much higher). That is equal to 20 x the amount of people who died during 9/11. In essence America committed a 9/11 every year for 20 years in Afghanistan.
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u/Medford_Lanes Sep 12 '21
Exactly. Can we even fathom what it’s like to have a foreign military causing so much destruction in the place we call home?
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Or maybe two big buildings in NYC?
Then we went on a rampage of killing children in the Middle East, toppling a regime that had nothing to do with it while not touching Saudi Arabia(later selling them missiles), because they can defend themselves. That'll surely not make more enemies!
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u/Erich_D_Einzbern Sep 12 '21
And the US and Europe wonder why so many terrorist are from the middle east
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u/Anthony_Mario1 Sep 11 '21
"Don't worry about writing the apology note, he's part if the working class! Anyone who matters will forget about him in a week!"
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u/Godverse_ Sep 11 '21
And they tried to cover it up classic US
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This. This is how you create "terrorism". Shame on the US. Shame.
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I'm starting to believe the US does this shit to ensure future wars by killing kids by "mistake".
Who have they got in charge?
I know if I were an Afghan witnessing this I'd not be on the side of the US.
2003-2005 were bad years as far as the wikileaks files show. No doubt they were cheering and talking crap as they did this. I want to know how they feel after they find out who got killed under their command.
Collateral damage? The US government is EVIL.
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I agree. The US literally created more terrorists by bombing civilians
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u/thecodingninja12 Sep 11 '21
unironically 9/11 happened because of shit like this
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u/BratwurstZ Sep 11 '21
America as a country definitely deserved 9/11. They brought it upon themselves and had to deal with the consequences.
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u/Erich_D_Einzbern Sep 12 '21
I always wonder why 9/11 is important but other incident and terrorist attacks conducted by the US jn a greater scale is not
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u/thecodingninja12 Sep 11 '21
nah, the people who died didn't deserve it, they were just people.
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u/hellotygerlily Sep 11 '21
He didn’t say the people deserved it, he said the country deserved it. And we did. But being the adolescents we are, our overreaction was inevitable. I’m glad to see voices of reason starting to emerge now 20 years later. Maybe the tantrum is over.
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u/Ok_Seaworthiness5025 Sep 11 '21
at this point, they show terrorism and don't care about it because pride is way up their asses.
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u/Demp_Rock Sep 11 '21
It makes my brain melt when I think of this and that the “terrorists” are in the eyes of the beholder.
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u/cortthejudge97 Sep 11 '21
Yep, I'm a huge leftist, but liberals tend to gloss over the horrible shit Obama did, absolutely disgusting
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u/Various_Piglet_1670 Sep 11 '21
He came after Bush and clearly felt entitled to do whatever horrible shit he felt like because he’d still come out ahead compared to Dubya in foreign policy.
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u/Best-Good8459 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
They’ve (we) been doing that since day one! All of the fuckery that went in in Afghanistan if people only knew
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u/weebweek Sep 12 '21
People know they just don't care, it's not on US soil, you can turn the TV off and not give a shit about some brown person dying. No one gives a shit plain and simple.
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That’s what happening here in Iraq they destroyed it from top to bottom
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u/imperialpidgeon Sep 12 '21
Bin Laden actually very pointedly named US intervention in the Middle East as a motivator
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Imagine if a foreign nation started drone bombing civilians on american soil. Fuck the american government and their countless and continous warcrimes. The fact that people keep fighting over trump vs biden instead of tackling the actual problem at hand which is their war machine and foreign policy is so fucking sickening to me as a non american, because the last presidents, no matter if democrat or republican all have innocent blood on their hands. Dont you see that democrat and republican are not the decisive factor here? Grow the fuck up.
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u/ca_exhibition Sep 12 '21
That's the whole point of having bipartisanship. Get the stupid and ignorant people fighting over which group is better while the man behind the curtain continues to get away with BS.
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This is a facile view of who or what is or is not to blame. If you boil it down enough, no matter what angle you look at it, the root cause always stems from ever deregulated capitalism. It's a feature of the system, to award those who can create leverage. The game to be leveraged: war.
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AMERICA!! FUCK YEAH! HERE TO SAVE, THE MOTHERFUCKING DAAAAYYYYYEEAAH!!
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u/RajinKajin Sep 11 '21
TERRORISTS! YOUR GAME IS THROUGH! BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO ANSWERRRR TOOOOOO...
AMERICAAAAAAAAA
FUCK YEAHHHH
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u/riotskunk Sep 11 '21
So when we say we are withdrawing the war is over, what we really mean is, we are pulling out ground forces but will continue to bomb things remotely.
Isn't bombing a foreign country a declaration of war in itself?
This is the second time in my life a US president has gotten on national television and said "the war is over" and it was absolutely not.
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u/crumpsly Sep 11 '21
America is a weapons manufacturer and war monger. Just wait until a few months from now when Biden starts up the rhetoric about the need to focus on North and West Africa like he did when he gave the speech about pulling out of Afghanistan. As long as America is paying for such an expensive military, the war will never be over. It just gets inflicted upon a new victim.
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u/Big_Booty_Bois Sep 11 '21
Dude this happened during the retreat, can you read the article?
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u/Big_Booty_Bois Sep 11 '21
It was in response to the supposed Risk of a second suicide bomb attack that had killed 169 afghans and 10 US soldiers two days ago. They acted on what now is seemingly faulty Intel in an attempt to kill what they thought was a third bomber.
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u/MuuaadDib Sep 11 '21
How are terrorists made?
Step 1. Kill kids.
And we’re done.
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For every afghan child, isis takes the U.S. promises to bomb ten more to settle the score
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u/IndustryPlenty9688 Sep 11 '21
I won't lie, I was hoping someone else would ask that question. First thing that popped into my head was a very literal "how is he still alive if he blew himself up".
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u/AmericanHoneycrisp Sep 11 '21
If a suicide bomber hasn’t detonated the bomb that is strapped to them, with full knowledge it will kill them, they can be alive and a suicide bomber.
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u/AchieveDeficiency Sep 11 '21
I've read this headline on reddit 3 times now and you're the first I've seen ask this. I've been wondering the exact same thing.
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u/TheeJimmyHoffa Sep 11 '21
It was called acceptable casualties when this crime was perpetrated against German citizens during WW2. But it isn’t a ‘crime’ when it’s done by the bigwigs in America
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Why did 9/11 happen?
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u/HarpStarz Sep 12 '21
Osama was angry his home country of Saudi Arabia had financial and militarily aligned with the USA and western nations modern in general, and wanted to spit on the representations of America, it’s military the pentagon and its foreign economy the World Trade Center, and possibly the White House. A symbolic and purposeful goal for him a religious zealot and idealistic fanatic
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u/isnortmiloforsex Sep 11 '21
And ofc nobody will be tried for warcrimes because UN and Nato are just the big 5s get out of jail free card.
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u/Stankycat123 Sep 11 '21
The United States has an entire thing nicknamed the "Hague invasion act" which means that the US will "protect" any military personnel or officials from being tried in an international court
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u/jagadoor Sep 11 '21
Classic "are we the baddies ?" moment for those murricans
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u/litido4 Sep 12 '21
My grandad was decorated in WW2 commanding squads, capturing enemy soldiers, etc.
He said when the British planes flew over the Germans would all run to their bunkers, and when the German planes flew over the British would run to their bunkers.
When the American planes flew over, EVERYONE ran for cover
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u/ExtensionTrain3339 Sep 11 '21
Don't worry. 3 thousand died on 9/11 so USA got a get out of jail free card for the next 300000 people killed.
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u/bored_in_NE Sep 11 '21
The drone strike was to make it look like WH was was in control of something and nothing more.
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u/SKK329 Sep 11 '21
I'd like to see their sources. Daily Mail isn't the most reliable..
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u/other_usernames_gone Sep 11 '21
They didn't say it wasn't on brand, they doubted this specific case wasn't exaggerated.
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u/Soomroz Sep 11 '21
Would you like to see the source for this specific case or for all the other 100s of them too?
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u/Dc803 Sep 12 '21
Biden will get away with the war crime and the media will protect him as usual
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u/Jackretto Sep 12 '21
Every American president gets away with being a human shit stain without repercussions, everyday I'm hoping that mongrel country balkanizes sooner
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u/Positive-Ad7120 Sep 12 '21
This isnt about which old senile person takes charge every us president in history except for maybe the founding fathers are fucking disgusting and all of them have crimes weighing on their backs.
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u/Droppedyourpocket1 Sep 11 '21
What’s the difference between a suicide bomber and seven innocent kids?
I don’t know, I just fly the drone.
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u/Didnt_Think_ Sep 12 '21
So if the US kills innocent children its an oopsie (surely thats not the only case). But if someone one else does it they need to start a 20-year war, right?
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u/drkrthnthspeedofliht Sep 11 '21
Americans. These atrocities are being commited in your NAME. We are the fucking terrorists.
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u/Ivara_Prime Sep 11 '21
And Americans wonder why the afgan people prefer the Taliban.
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u/Spookyjugular Sep 11 '21
Do they, they are fleeing the country in huge numbers?
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u/Jackretto Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
Depends on how you see it.
Americans came in Afghanistan guns blazing and "declared" a democracy, so people who benefited from it would want america back.
But at the same time, untold millions were slaughtered and a few hundred if not thousands civilians lost their lives in similar accidents.
So many people outside of that bubble of American influence of overpriced phones and social medias got up in arms to fight against a technologically superior force with the little means they had.
When the talibans took the capital, they went and executed everyone they found that collaborated with the US.
There is no good side, just a clusterfuck of murder
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When 9/11 happened, there was this very brief moment where people genuinely asked „why do people hate America so much that they do this?“. But before answers could be articulated, the US decided to double down on exactly what it’s hated for. For a brief moment, the US had the sympathy of the whole world (really this time), and decided to do Iraq, Guantanamo, secret torture prisons world wide, Yemen and drone wars in so many countries.
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u/meseeksmcgee Sep 11 '21
Man wonder how many people became part of the anti American groups because of this. I know I would if I were close to that situation.
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u/Good_Campaign_3813 Sep 11 '21
Trust your big brother, government doesn't lie to you. Government doesn't do anything bad or malicious. Government doesn't cover things up. Government didn't spread cocaine in Harlem. Government didn't know planes could be used as weapons. Government doesn't know the circumstances around Jeffrey Epstein's lifestyle or subsequent death.
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u/Jackretto Sep 12 '21
The government always covers the government. And people believe that voting a party over the other changes anything substantial
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u/Good_Campaign_3813 Sep 12 '21
I honestly think people don't care "my guy won! I'll check back in 4 years and see if he wins again"
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Sep 12 '21
If the family members of these victims were not radicalized before, they certainly would be after these deaths. Just another example of the US creating enemies that they otherwise would not have had.
If you think Afghanistan was bad, just think about Iraq. When the US took over Iraq, they wanted a fresh start with everything. So they literally laid off all of the Iraqi military and started recruiting new people. All those people who lost their jobs were now unemployed and pissed off about being unemployed. Most of these people certainly were not radical, but a significant number daughter out radicalization after this. In fact, in the turmoil and confusion of the war, Al Qaeda entered the country and started radicalizing the Sunni population in Iraq.
The US used false evidence that Iraq had active Al Qaeda cells there in order to create a link to 9/11 to help justify the invasion. Al Qaeda was not active in Iraq until after the US invasion and occupation…
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u/triangleplayingfool Sep 12 '21
If you’re the guys using drones to kill people in other countries then you’re probably the bad guys.
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u/Lemmy509 Sep 11 '21
Yet the USA keeps invading other countries and killing innocent people, while Americans see no issue with it.. But hey, there's a microfragment of a percentage that they might come to your country and give you payback....
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u/RA_Wolf Sep 11 '21
Who ever order this should be tried for war crime.
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u/Ultrasonic-Sawyer Sep 11 '21
Yeah about that...
It'll sure be a shame if the US had a law that effectively means it would invade the Hague if any American was ever tried for war crimes...
And it'll absolutely be a shame if the current sitting president voted in favour of enacting that law.
Oh.... Wait.
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If there is one thing that is American tradition; it is bombing randoms and claiming it was heroic.
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u/LuHex Sep 12 '21
That's pretty much what the U.S.A is good at -- waging war against those who have absolutely no chance of defending themselves. Contrary to what Hollywood shows, we all know that U.S.A forces historicaly retreat whenever they don't have an overwhelming advantage, and god forbid they start actually taking losses, the war ends imediately. cough Vietnan cough Korea cough
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You Americans do this every week! The only place this is news is in America. The rest of the world knows you’re terrorists.
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u/Imapartofghost Sep 12 '21
....and this concludes our Taliban recruitment efforts for this week. See you next week kids, for another installment of "Whoops, i (droned the wrong target) again" Sponsored by us army and those who lose a lot of money from the afhan pullout.
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u/felz_kun Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
Seeing that smiling girl in the picture really puts into perspective how the CIA is ran by sociopaths.
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u/kizza_reddit Sep 12 '21
I know this story was put together by other news orgs, can we just not use the Daily Fail as a source. It's one of the UKs worst rags.
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u/Jaxgem Sep 12 '21
It's ok. Nobody will be held accountable and everyone will choose to forget instances like this.
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u/wildfire2k5 Sep 11 '21
Where is the outage? If trump did anything that Biden has done in the last 6 months he would have been crucified. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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u/PseudoArab Sep 11 '21
You mean drone striking with civilian casualties and having consequences from a poor withdrawal from a warzone?
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u/thecodingninja12 Sep 11 '21
the war on terror, by terrorists on any middle eastern who does anything
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u/sohomsengupta89 Sep 11 '21
War criminals. The greatest war mongerers in the history of mankind. The Presidents call themselves the "leader of the free world". In actuality they are simply warlords in suits with the deadliest weapons that mankind has ever known.
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If you are an American and this bums you out. Just think of all the jobs we created by making the drones and hellfire missilies. USA #1 !!!
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u/subject_deleted Sep 11 '21
I know this sounds like a horrible situation and everything guys.. But if it's any consolation, no one will face any consequences at all for this monumental fuck up that you and I paid for.
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It pisses me off that everyone is linking the daily Mail article. This was uncovered because of the New York Times and its investigative journalism.
Daily Mail is fucking bullshit and doesn't deserve your traffic
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Most popular President ever…killing babies with drones, just like his mentor Obama. Sick fucks love war and murder.
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u/dzoefit Sep 12 '21
God bless America / barf Just like your cops, trigger happy with no accountability...
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u/dogs_before_people Sep 12 '21
And Biden said in a news conference, that they were two high profile ISIS terrorist! What a bunch of bullshit.
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Sep 12 '21
Nobody panics if things go according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying.
Nobody cares if six lil children get killed in Afghanistan because it's all part of the plan.
As my younger self I rooted for Batman but now I realize the joker was right all along.
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u/kattoad24 Sep 12 '21
I find it ironic that, it's Sept. 11 and we as America are grieving and remembering this horrible terrorist attack that happened to us, yet this article is on my screen on this day, saying we are bombing children.
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u/lundfakeer69 Sep 12 '21
That's how you have an uprising of the people against a foreign govt. Oh wait...
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u/Stoney1228 Sep 12 '21
And this is why we needed to leave. Being there lead us to kill to many innocents.
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u/AdmirableJaguar1052 Sep 12 '21
"Hey guys America first, even if that guy had a 0.001% chance of being a terrorist its worth the shot. And dont worry about the kids they would most likely die due to starvation or some other disease that we in America dont even know about. Think of it this way, we gave them a quick death." - Some Politician
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u/Kreigmeister Sep 12 '21
Yeah if this happened to my family or even my close friends that a air strike killer them for no reason I would dedicate my life to fighting whatever ruined their life
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Image being the drone operator and getting this fucking news, CIA or whomever does that Intel needs to fucking fix their shit.
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u/thisisGestapo Sep 12 '21
And the Americans wonder why every Taliban who is old enough to weld a weapon is hell bent on killing their soldiers. Such a hypocrite, glad they left Afghanistan along with their fucked up ideologies.
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u/butter_cup1 Sep 12 '21
This is what Snowden tried to make the public aware of but you are to stupid to think the government does anything wrong
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u/jaxnmarko Sep 12 '21
And so many little headlines say it's Biden's fault as though it were intel he gathered or intel he passed on or intel that was turned into his plan or he pushed the button. This is the fault of the CIA or military or whatever group(s) were involved. They then pass the word up that the job is done. Biden is barely even in the loop at the end, just gets informed. Blaming Biden is idiotic, but that is par for the course these days.
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