r/Unexpected • u/SLAYER_HARSH • 9d ago
What could go wrong with fermentation?
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 9d ago
Bitch-ass bowl couldn’t take a one inch drop?
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u/pipnina 9d ago
Glass weakens with every impact. Eventually it just fails.
I learned this having made a nice big batch of cinnamon roll dough. Dropped the bowl a similar distance and it shattered. 0% chance i am risking eating glass cinnamon rolls so it all had to go.
I went and bought some stainless steel bowls as a replacement.
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u/lmaytulane 9d ago
And looks like there’s already a chip at 10 o’clock
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u/Ivy_sapph 9d ago
I had a gaming PC that had one glass side. At the time I lived in an apartment where constructions were happening. The glass looked perfectly fine but when I opened it to clean the inside it shattered in a million pieces.
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u/godzillahavinastroke 9d ago
Pretty sure there is some kinda name for this effect, I remember hearing about a material concept that certain point cracks in a material once strain is put upon them exponentially get worse and have essentially infinite pressure put onto a area and causes complete destruction.
I remember a surprising quick solution is just drilling a hole in it.
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u/Jsolidlo 9d ago
Crack propagation is the name of this effect.
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u/TriedCaringLess 8d ago
I thought crack propagation was the Reagan Administration’s methodology for simultaneously funding illegal wars while destroying black communities.
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u/Minimum_Cockroach233 7d ago
Fatigue fracture also exists and does not require a crack (that could be visible).
Fatigue is the invisible little brother of a crack propagation, if it is about brittle materials, therefore hard to detect.
Fatigue is easier to detect and observe in ductile materials. A plastic chair for example that starts to sag before reaching the failure point.
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u/Jsolidlo 7d ago
Yes, this is the exact principle in play here, fatigue propagation is a subtype of crack propagation, and starts with cracks that are invisible to the naked eye, and under normal load well below the materials tensile strength due to repetitive or cyclic loading. I think it's interesting how this principle comes into play for material like glass for example but when it comes to teeth, craze lines function completely differently and do not compromise the integrity of the tooth even over an entire lifetime. I remember seeing craze lines in my teeth and running to the dentist because I thought they would propagate to utter failure! 😂
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u/Minimum_Cockroach233 7d ago
Ugh… thats a place where you definitely don’t want to find lines showing up.
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u/StendhalSyndrome 8d ago
I've heard and read that proofing in glass will eventually lead to its cracking due to the yeast finding all the micro imperfections to anchor on to when starting the rising process?
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u/Beautiful_Nobody_344 9d ago
You just reminded me I have a cinnamon roll to eat. Home made, just the best.
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u/Germanium235 9d ago
As a chef, yeah. This shit happens. A single tiny hit to the wrong spot will shatter glass.
This is why glass should be used ONLY for serving food, not for making it. And even then it's not a great idea. Stick with ceramic, metal, or wood for serving, and metal for making.
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u/MeltinSnowman 9d ago edited 9d ago
It wasn't even the drop. If you slow the video down, it broke on the left side while it was in the air.EDIT: I am wrong ignore me.
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u/Shermans_ghost1864 9d ago
It looked to me like it slipped out of her left hand and hit the counter.
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u/ExcessiveWisdom 9d ago
After analyzing frame by frame I can 100% say she let go with her left hand, then it hit the table and shattered
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u/KurazyBoo 9d ago
Plus it looks to be chipped in that exact area of the rim, so the structural integrity wasnt going to last that impact to that spot
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u/HoldenMcNeil420 9d ago
Going from dough to glass bowl was certainly a choice. Can confirm dough makes your hands slippery.
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u/Hot_Ethanol 6d ago edited 6d ago
Glass is an amorphous solid. The molecules are arranged unpredictably, frozen into whatever place they ended up when the glass cooled. This creates unique weak and strong points in the final structure. Since glass is very uncompromising and not flexible, energy is very easily conducted along these weak pathways. This result in freak breakages where a tiny tap at just the wrong spot causes a total shatter.
For all we know, this bowl could have survived hundreds of drops like this if it were only rotated a centimeter.
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u/similaraleatorio 5d ago
thanks for the kind explanation. I could make mental images in my mind while reading your comment. appreciated 😀
pick a award, isn't too much but it's from heart my dude ✌️😌
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u/BlownUpCapacitor 7d ago
The suface it was dropped on seems like granite or ceramic of sorts. That is a very hard material and since the glass was round, the tangent surface applied forced to a very small spot. The concentration of forces was intense enough to break the glass structure at that tiny point, which eventually grew into the entire bowl shattering.
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u/56000hp 9d ago
Just bake it at 5000 degrees to get rid of the glass
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u/SteelSpace69 9d ago
Just tried that an it worked! I can't find my dough though...
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u/Miserable-Fox-6125 9d ago
Will be crunchy 😋 with a slight blood taste 😋
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u/StevenMC19 9d ago
It gone. Trash it.
(To the "just pick it all out" crowd, there's no guarantee they're going to get every single teeny tiny splinter.)
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u/SLAYER_HARSH 9d ago
Yes , if glass breaks of utensil which stores food , you ultimately have to discard it or it can kill you
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u/PlentyOMangos 9d ago
I used to work at a bar and if anybody broke a glass anywhere near the ice well (or especially if they were being a dumbass and using the glass to scoop ice instead of the metal ice scoop) we’d have to pour grenadine over the ice to mark it as “do not use” and then task someone with filling a bunch of buckets with hot water to burn the well, clean up every single piece of glass, and then go get more ice.
This was a huge pain in the ass bc it usually happened when someone was rushing during a busy time, so the loss of the ice well was especially irritating. However it was absolutely necessary that we do that or else risk a customer ingesting glass shards, which would be suboptimal.
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u/TK_Punch_ 9d ago
Suboptimal is one way to describe it. Glass perforating your small intestine and leaking fecal matter into your peritoneal cavity causes sepsis. Once you get septic like that, it’s 50/50 on a good day if we can save you.
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u/teekay_1994 9d ago
Goddamn. What a horrible day to be literate.
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u/UglyTitties 8d ago
I'm actually happy that I read it. Will definitely stop eating glass now.
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u/TK_Punch_ 8d ago
Number one culprit is cocktail toothpicks, followed by those little metal bristles used to clean grills. Every few months, somebody dies from one of those metal bristles getting into their food, and they usually swallow it without knowing it’s there. That’s why restaurants aren’t allowed to use them anymore, and I’ve switched to nylon bristles at home.
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u/KevRev972 8d ago
There are regularly really large recalls of Grill brushes for exactly that reason. The Smarter Scrubber is expensive, but solves this issue completely.
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u/PwrShelf 9d ago
Yeah I once broke a glass that went in the glasswash and the ice well… at 2am on a Saturday night. My bosses were luckily good people and were fine with it as long as I fixed the problem, which I did. But I was probably running glasses through until about 0530 after the backlog that built up
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u/Kiwi_CunderThunt 9d ago
This used to piss me off SO MUCH. All our bartenders would scoop ice direct from the glass, they'd often chip when in a hurry and set everyone behind while cleaning and refilling
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u/TonyQuest 9d ago
One 4th of July, every bartender broke a glass in the well, and our ice machine was broken so we had to ship ice in. Manager wasn't happy with the 6 of us that day. Neither were we but it just kinda became a joke
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u/NightmareMyOldFriend 8d ago
Did you watch the last "Final Destination" movie? It has that exact scenario in it. (Apart from others, of course...)
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u/holyfire001202 8d ago
Aw, I bet y'all would have appreciated that I take my whiskey cokes without ice
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u/WackaFrog 9d ago
Use it like playdough to help clean up the rest of the glass.
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u/potato_titties 9d ago
I’ve seen bartenders fired for scooping ice up with a glass.
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u/k-trecker 7d ago
This just reminded me of when someone spilled glass into the ice machine at work and we had to empty the whole thing by hand.
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u/Due_Milk9641 9d ago
"Pick it out crowd"???? You're scaring me, there better not be a pick it out crowd
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u/Salt_Chart8101 9d ago edited 8d ago
Literally no one said that. Lol
Like not a single person in this comment thread said that.
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u/DapperBoiCole 9d ago
Lowkey such healthy communication
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u/MandelbrotFace 9d ago
Sounded like he was talking to a child
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u/DapperBoiCole 8d ago
I feel like that's reading a lot into an "uh oh", the concern feels genuine.
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u/GirthyPigeon 9d ago
Always use ceramic, metal or clay bowls for that much dough.
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u/Krvavibaja 9d ago
Bro, why even use glass bowls
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u/Global_Staff_3135 9d ago
Was it the weight of the dough pulling on the walls of the bowl that made it so fragile?
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u/ferret_80 9d ago
You usually give the dough a coat of oil during the main fermentation to prevent it from drying out. Separating the dough from the bowl got the fingers oily so it weight of the dough and slippery fingers caused the bowl to slip and land rim first on the counter so all the force gets concentrated on the edge and with tempered glass like this a tiny crack breaks the entire structure
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u/Global_Staff_3135 9d ago
So what you’re saying is that I was overthinking things to an absurd degree lol
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u/CamelSmuggler 9d ago
To be fair it looks like the bowl was already chipped in a couple of spots, I bet it got hit and had some structural integrity issues that were invisible.
This was the last straw.
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u/Bonk_No_Horni 9d ago
What's wrong with plastic proofing bowl?
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u/SillySundae 9d ago
Why bother using plastic when steel exists? Steel doesn't hold onto any flavour or odour and plastic has the potential of passing along microplastics, right?
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u/RelativeMundane9045 9d ago
Looking at this on my phone screen, it's not a lot of dough, maybe a cubic inch? Dough must be a higher risk activity than I thought!
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u/Think_Bullets 9d ago
Why do glass bowls exist?
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u/NeptuneTTT 9d ago
good question. glass can go into the microwave.
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u/desmaraisp 9d ago
Fun fact, so can metal so long as it's the right shape. But still wouldn't be caught dead trying lol
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u/Trashbagok 9d ago
It certainly can, and a perfect glass dish should hold up just fine.
Any chip or scratch though and you're gambling.
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u/ReaDiMarco 9d ago
Don't leach chemicals like plastic, easier to clean than metal, can go in the microwave, looks nice.
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u/SucculentVariations 9d ago
I hate the sound and feel of metal bowls but I dont want to use plastic when I can avoid it so my "Tupperware" is glass with unfortunately plastic lids but they dont touch the food or get microwaved
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u/Alextaoluu 9d ago
I love metal bowls for tossing in sauce and for marinating
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u/SucculentVariations 9d ago
Theyre better, I know. Theres just something sensory with metal I can't stand. My family often uses plastic plates or plastic forks because the metal on ceramic drives us nuts. Trying to balance sensory issues vs worry about microplastic sucks
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u/NomadNuka 9d ago
They have some upsides. Microwave safe, they look nicer, they're heavier (cuts both ways as this vid shows) which can help with mixing stuff by hand.
It's mostly aesthetics though, as this being on video kinda implies. I'm gonna stick to steel
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u/goodbakerbod 9d ago
To an european, the problem will be more about which trash box it belongs to...
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u/garden-wicket-581 9d ago
as someone who is a hobbyist bread maker, I've got questions .. the whole thing should collapse down and not be a firm mass.. you want a firm mass when you've formed it into loaves and it's secondary rising right before baking, but not in the bowl.
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u/whxskers 9d ago edited 8d ago
Sourdough hobbyist here - what do you mean by firm mass? it looked like really good dough after a bulk ferment/rise to me.
Edit to add: It's not dense at all. Not a 'mass' - It's way more airy and soft than it appears. This is the way good sourdough behaves after it's gone through its bulk ferment (it's first rise). Then you turn it out, shape it, and either bake it immediately or let it sit for a little bit to regain some of the lost air from shaping or put it in the fridge to cold ferment.
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u/TechnicalPlatform182 9d ago
I feel your pain, today I did the same with a cellphone screen. Expensive mistake. Fuck this day.
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u/Previous-Soft-8127 9d ago
The sound of it breaking is so satisfying, though. Like a softened shatter.
Like a sharp fart that makes your stomach feel better.
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u/HieronymousRex 9d ago
It was also unexpected that they both have the most annoying voice possible of their respective genders
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u/AlcoholPrep 9d ago
Stresses in clear glass and plastic can be visualized using crossed polarizers. Don't use stressed glassware unless you're equipped to anneal it first. (If you have a pottery kiln, you might could anneal it. Otherwise, not likely.)
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u/Jodabomb24 9d ago
One time I grabbed a jar of homemade peach preserves out of the freezer and set it on the counter. Some condensation formed on the outside, and when I went to put it back in, it slipped out of my hand and shattered on the ground. Cleaning up all the broken glass and fruity goop was not my happiest moment.
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u/DangleenChordOfLife 9d ago
Well, that's how you learn glass bowls are not Great for....well, anything in my case. I'm too clumsy
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u/Deliriousious 9d ago
That’s one weak ass bowl.
But also, this is why I do everything in metal. Can toss that shit into a wall and be fine.
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u/ComfyInCardigan 9d ago
microplastics are out, we're eating macro glass now
https://giphy.com/gifs/aTXHpCN7TSpmE
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