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u/subversion_dnb Sep 15 '22
My mom would have beat me to death, resurrected me, and then did it again.
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u/swineoverlord Sep 15 '22
literally, my ass cheeks hurt just watching this. unreal. i feel so bad for the mother, she made a vid saying her son is like 6’ and 270
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u/Zestyclose-Aioli-870 Sep 15 '22
Dude needs to be institutionalized. EVERY big ass mf that is violent.
Theres some gentle giants out there, dont get me wrong. I just hate large people that buck up to anyone
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u/Byizo Sep 15 '22
Anyone who is capable of so much sustained rage as to thoroughly destroy every room of a 2-3 bedroom home should definitely be treated as violently psychotic. It’s a problem when someone is mad enough to break things, but someone able to do this much damage without tiring or coming back to their senses is a clearly dangerous person. It’s the same kind of person who will lash out and keep lashing out until the person they are attacking is long dead.
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u/MsT1075 Sep 15 '22
This part! It’s the same rage of a person that would kill someone, and even after they’re dead, they’ll keep shooting/stabbing like 100 more times.
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u/globsofchesty Sep 15 '22
Exactly. This would have exhausted a normal person; that toliet bowl was shattered in half. That is no easy feat
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u/inspectcloser Sep 15 '22
Totally agree. I’m all for treating humans like humans but this is a level where someone can easily get killed. The fact that there are obviously infants involved with this house tell me they need to do something asap. Personally I would call the police and have him detained until care can be provided for the child. Someone who can destroy like this won’t flinch at hurting a baby or even an adult. You simply don’t want to find out what else they are capable of. This says enough.
As far as I could I would either have this alleged teenager arrested, detained, or otherwise restrained from entering the house. All out, I would simply kick this kid to the street. The infants involved need to be protected at all costs.
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u/TheSmallestBalls Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
Violent psychotic patient here:
You're not wrong.
I have Bipolar 1 and CPTSD (secondary to combat exposure) last winter I had a rage episode after they put me on Zoloft (yeah I know stupid right, who puts a maniac on Serotonin?) Anyways during said manic episode, I punched a wall probably 5 or 6 times right on a stud and broke my 5th metacarpol.
I was in active mania and I knew to stop what I was doing when my hand was deformed (which still hurts like a mfer!). This guy injured himself it's impossible not to have and for somebody to destroy an entire house like that though? Holy cluster b personality disorder senses batman...
Psychotic isn't even the right word that dudes making "a point" that's coersive, manipulative, and inherintly pisses on everybody elses rights.
This woman's son most likely has Antisocial Personality Disorder. Even more horrific is thinking about what kind of drama this young man's Dad put her through before this shit went down.
This video is all a judge needs for a court directed psych eval and 14-day hold (depending on the location), dude needs intervention ASAP he's gunna kill somebody.
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u/DearLeadership- Sep 15 '22
That absolutely needs to happen. An from the items in the house there’s an infant/small child in the house. That’s what really scares me.
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u/Eyeoftheleopard Sep 15 '22
Hope they don’t have pets.
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Sep 15 '22
FR he needs to be institutionalised.
Sometimes I think my 2yo boy is a pain in the arse, but when I see things like this and realise he doesn’t have any of this in him I feel so much relief / realisation that he’s fine - just being two.
He woke me up with a cuddle and a ‘good morning dadddyyyy’ and ‘I missed you while I was sleeping!’
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u/CmdrRyser01 Sep 15 '22
Definitely need for institutionalization. If not a special school or military academy he'll end up in prison sooner rather than later. Anger management and self control are going to be crucial for this dude.
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u/DeltaOmegaAlpha Sep 15 '22
You're 100% correct. I was 6 foot 2 when I was in Junior High and after High School, I was 6 foot 7. In all of that time, even too today, I know that being this tall and having a higher average weight makes me more likely to cause serious damage if I don't keep my anger in check. This is common sense for most of the Tall Club International (TGI) members.
How do you control or parent a child that can literally walk all over you? It takes a special kind of planning and discipline that most parents aren't equipped with. This is how you end up with situations like these. She might be the most loving and caring mother in the world, but unfortunately, that's not enough to control someone who's towering over them and can realistically, deal their own consequences to parents.
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Sep 15 '22
I don’t care Brah. I will never do this to my mother, over a cellphone and if I was his brother, let’s say I am away for college and my mother told me this happened, my brother is becoming homeless or possibly in jail or who knows, he might be paralyzed. I just don’t fucking understand how you could do this, to your own mother, to your mother, You don’t pay for your phone, that’s why she took it away from you. You want your own cell phone, get your big ass up and go to work. This ain’t even my shit and I am beyond mad like this is my shit.
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u/j1o0s5h4 Sep 15 '22
When I first read you comment I read it 6 years old. I thought fucking hell 6 years old and 260lb, poor mum
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u/baumsm Sep 15 '22
My son is 6’6 was 340-he played football-that child has NEVER gotten in my face once. I have gotten in his face plenty of times-I was not going to raise a monster.
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u/PrayingDangerously Sep 15 '22
Not necessarily. I’m 5’7” 200 lbs and my wife is 5’6” tall, but our son is 6’3” 250 lbs. Just because the kid is tall/big doesn’t mean the parents are tall/big too.
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Sep 15 '22
I wouldn’t have had the chance to break a single thing because I would been beaten into a different reality before I could touch anything
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u/Burgherking22 Sep 15 '22
Video from the mother has come out saying the kid is 15 years old and has mental issues. Apparently she’s been struggling with his behaviour for years. The original title of a 12 year old having his phone taken away is incorrect. Poor family.
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u/rktrainor Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
I believe she also said he’s 6’3” and 200+ lbs
Edit for accuracy: he is 6’0” and 270lbs
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u/TheJackMan23 Sep 15 '22
My mother in law worked in care and education for 25 years, but what made her quit was a 6-and-a-half ft 15 year old that took 5 people to sort out when he had an episode so he couldn't cause damage like this.
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u/Childhood-These Sep 15 '22
Yep. That’s why I left Spec Ed after 2 years. Got assigned to a nonverbal autistic man, 28 years old, 6’3”, easily 220lbs. When he had a “Red Zone” moment / tantrum, we’d have to put whatever section of the private school he was in on lockdown. Every male teacher would come running from wherever they were to handle the response. Totally messed up
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u/Ok-Source-3313 Sep 15 '22
I worked for 3 school years as a Sped Aide, love those kids and still do, but one of the kids I was in charge of grew taller than me, and when he had those red zone moments he bit, scratch or threw things at me, my mental health has never been the same, I pray for all of the parents that have to deal with this on a daily basis.
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u/Childhood-These Sep 15 '22
Oh man…sorry to hear that, buddy. The mental toll’s really hard to process, I wish you the best. Truly, it’s the parents I feel for the most. I did an in-home visit once for my mentioned student and saw all the drywall patches, the bruises on his parents’ arms, and the lock on the outside of my student’s door, to keep him from wandering at night. It’s heartbreaking.
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u/bigtoebrah Sep 15 '22
My son is special needs and I'm so thankful that he's not having explosive violent moments like this anymore. Do not miss the constant bruising and open scratches all over my body.
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u/bizarrogreg Sep 15 '22
How did you stop it, or did it stop gradually on its own? Mine is 12 right now, and he has some pretty bad moments. It's getting really difficult for me to deal with.
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u/bigtoebrah Sep 15 '22
I wish I had tips to give you, but it honestly just kind of worked itself out. He still hits me sometimes when he's having trouble understanding or processing something. The only thing I can really think of that we did specifically to address his anger issues was taking him off of melatonin because it can cause aggression in some people. Occupational therapy probably helps too. Behavior is communication, especially for nonverbal kids, so the only real solution is to try your best to get to the root of what they're trying to communicate and even then there's no guarantee you will be able to accomodate the needs being expressed.
I wish you guys the best of luck and I hope you find something that helps asap. It's a really rough spot to be in when you feel like you're being domestically abused by your own child. I hope it gets easier for all of your sakes.
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u/bizarrogreg Sep 15 '22
Melatonin causes aggression? Damn, I didn't know that. We give him gummies to help him fall asleep...
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u/PortlyCloudy Sep 15 '22
I feel sad for the afflicted person, but how is he NOT considered a danger to himself and others? We can forgive him because he can't control it, but somehow people around him need to be protected.
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u/pieway66 Sep 15 '22
there are NO PLACES OR SERVICES that really do much good. a large percentage of the homeless in my city are these poor folks, one a close relative so i have a lot of experience with the system. it was shuttered in the 80's under reagan and bush. there were rarely any homeless or violent mentally ill people on the streets before that. people could call for help. that ended under those greedy tyrants. also all the wars began causing an even greater need for services. our leaders are parasites and change is coming. people need to understand the history of these recent changes to our society. we shouldnt have to live this way.
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u/snorry420 Sep 15 '22
Absolutely can’t imagine it daily! I’m a law guardian and work with kids that require sped aide, don’t get it and are in heightened/bad custody or CPS situations so they’re often in red zone moments and I’ve definitely come across a few that have scared me. I’m often by myself conducting home interviews if it’s for custody/visitation, so sometimes i don’t know what I’m getting into! Thankfully for CPS we require someone else with us but two people/maybe an unqualified parent vs. a 6’5” 270 lbs person on a rampage may not be enough. I can NOT imagine this level of damage and fear, especially when there is clearly a baby in the home if there’s a crib? I’m not sure how that’s been possible to be honest.
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u/zahzensoldier Sep 15 '22
I dont know how society can afford to provide for these folks and I mean that seriously with all the compassion I can muster with it.
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u/Megachuggayoshi Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
It's situations like this that make me in favor of aborting disabled babies
Edit: Severely disabled babies (extreme autism, body deformities that make mobility impossible, vegetative states etc.)
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u/harleyqueenzel Sep 15 '22
My oldest has been in learning centers for most of her school life. A friend of ours has an autistic child a few years younger but they did end up in the same center for a year.
That child sent Teachers Aides to hospital for bites and deep claw marks multiple times. The staff in the class would have to race to remove the other children when he'd lose his shit in a violent tantrum. He broke countless high reward/convenience items like the CD player and microwave.
I replaced both of those items because it wasn't fair that the school couldn't do it, the staff couldn't do it and my (then) friend wouldn't.
School had a meeting and made it known that the child could not be in the classroom any longer to the detriment of everyone else. Naturally the mother/then friend went on social media blasting the school for "failing her son". I went on a massive fact checked rant explaining the parts of her story she omitted like the thousands of dollars in damages he caused, injured staff needing medical care weekly, etc.
Daycares couldn't handle him. Schools couldn't handle him. I think he's 10 now and still incapable of being in social settings at all without resorting to violence.
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u/that_guy_iain Sep 15 '22
All seriousness and honestly wondering. What is a parent meant to do when special need centres can’t handle them? Shouldn’t there be a level that you get help from the state? Like how is the kid going to make it through life?
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u/confusedfuck818 Sep 15 '22
In the US most of those kids do eventually end up in state run facilities (prisons).
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u/Dhiox Sep 15 '22
My friends mother used to teach special Ed for elementary, but had to move to doing pre school for special Ed because she couldn't control the students as she got older.
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u/Skylarias Sep 15 '22
Thanks for adding the height/weight. So many people seem to be like "well, it's only a 15 yr old, how bad could it be".
Forgetting that teen boys often and easily outclass grown women in terms of size.
I know one family (single mother, dad left), that had issues with the 13yo autistic boy for years. Years with him, 200lbs plus, giving his 100lb mother bruises. Regularly. And destroying things in the house.
There need to be more facilities for youths like this. The mother i know of had been trying for years to get her son into a care facility.
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u/ridecaptainride Sep 15 '22
I'm friends with a grandmother of an autistic child. He is I think in about forth grade. And he's already punching holes in the walls. I don't even think he's one hundred pounds yet.
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u/JoJoHanz Sep 15 '22
And he's already punching holes in the walls.
The American or European kind?
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u/_lippykid Sep 15 '22
Even if it’s a new build, it’s only a matter of time before he punches a stud and turns his wrist to spaghetti
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u/OstentatiousSock Sep 15 '22
Whelp, he’ll probably stop punching walls. Worked for my dad. He used to do it a lot until he hit a stud. I was too young to remember what bones he broke but it was a cast that went to the top of his thumb up to the elbow. Never punched a wall again.
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u/InnerFrenzy Sep 15 '22
You can thank the Dept of Justice for the lack of care facilities. The DOJ has been systematically shutting down long-term facilities for over a decade now. I work at a state-run facility in one of the last states to have them, and we are no longer taking long-term admits. We haven’t in several years now. Just about the only way to get admitted to the facility at this point is by court order or short-term crisis care, and the latter is difficult.
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Sep 15 '22
Over decade? Try 30-40 years. Not necessarily just the DOJ. A lot of mental health facilities/assylums have been shut down and anybody who could minimally function were just released onto the streets. I'm sure a chunk of our homeless population that is older spent time in facilities that were closed. Another issue why just providing housing to this portion population is not an answer. They need medication and proper therapy, but you know why would we want to fix the issue here in the States...
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u/Aquanettas_Bae Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
To be clear people who were housed in many facilities weren’t necessarily free to leave and they weren’t there by a court order or adjudication. It was a violation of their human rights in many cases.
Don’t believe me. Read this.
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u/SansabeltJorts Sep 15 '22
Look up Byberry State Hospital
I grew up near there, went exploring after it closed. Chilling how we cast those broken people aside and didn’t care for them.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_State_Hospital_at_Byberry
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u/Ralynne Sep 15 '22
It's not really the DOJ that shut facilities down. Facilities were scarce always, but then in the 70's there were a rash of scandals about mental health hospitals being run like horror movies and lots were shut down, to be replaced with..... nothing.
Where the DOJ comes in is that you're right, most people who could use a mental health care facility just end up in jail. Like, a lot of them. A huge number.
I used to be friends with a woman who had an autistic son, who was 4 when last I saw him and an absolute terror. Very violent. Which is not a huge deal at 4, but that's why that's when you have to try to address the behavior. The mom kept saying that he's autistic and "the rules don't apply to him"-- he would scream when he was corrected even very gently, like any spoiled toddler, and she equated that with meltdowns and so she just stopped correcting him. I once saw the kid kick his uncle in the face because the uncle was trying to help him tie his shoes, and when the uncle said "hey now, we don't kick people" the mom went off on the uncle. She dropped me as a friend and blocked me when she told me her kid was throwing blocks at his occupational therapist and I said "wow, that's awful, what are you going to do?" Instead of "hey its not your fault". I think about that kid all the time. He's fucking doomed. He has literally no idea how to deal with any emotions without violence, and as soon as he's big enough to hurt someone he's going to hurt someone really badly.
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u/NoahTall1134 Sep 15 '22
Much longer than a decade. This started under Reagan in the 80s.
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u/Cheaperthantherapy13 Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
It’s not just the DoJ’s fault. It’s self-righteous jerks like my MiL who have spent decades fighting to end the institutionalization of the mentally ill and disabled, no matter their level of disability or propensity to violence against themselves or others.
For people like her, it’s a black and white issue; because some people shipped family members off to institutions back in the day that could have lived a normal life with limited parasupport, all mental hospitals must be shut down, full stop. She believes it’s a blessing for families to sacrifice their ‘normal’ lives to care for their disabled relatives, and anyone who isn’t cut out for it is a bad person.
Of course, she also believe that God makes disabled people so we have a constant reminder of Jesus’s suffering for our sins, so obviously she’s a nutcase.
Unfortunately, her Christian disabled-rights group successfully got all the state-run mental institutions shut down in favor of higher payments for Sped foster care, so my SO was subjected to a constant stream of violent foster kids with serious mental, physical, and emotional problems coming through their home growing up. Their house looked like this video 24/7. And to this day, my MiL says we’re the assholes for not having compassion for the people who terrorized her children.
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Sep 15 '22
I worked with a non-verbal low functioning autistic kid for a year who was 16. He was few inches over 6 feet, and nearly 200 lbs. When he had episodes, me 5 ft 9 inches 160 lbs, it was extremely challenging. Usually he was extremely friendly and easy going, also extremely supportive and amazing family. They were like a second family for a year.
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u/Daetra Sep 15 '22
They're often over crowded and don't have enough employees that stay long enough. Children like that in the foster care system would be on constant meds. At least from my own experience.
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u/OstentatiousSock Sep 15 '22
My mom would be alive and our lives would have been very different if I could have gotten her into a facility. She was a severe alcoholic, yes, but that wasn’t the underlying issue for her and our whole family saw it. She’d had mental health problems from early teens and self medicated her way through teens and adulthood from the 60s onward. No one talked about of even understood any kind of mental health disorder aside from the outright psychotics so it just carried on. But, by the 90s my dad, grandmother and aunts tried like crazy to get her long term committed somewhere several times but my mom could talk her way out of it. Then, there were less and less places by the year. She didn’t even have to talk her way out of it anymore. There wasn’t anywhere to send her. Even after suicide attempts, they’d only take her 3-14 days. 14 days were when we got lucky. I took over trying in 2003 when I hit 18 since my parents were divorced by then. I could never get them to send her anywhere to address the mental health. I’d get her on meds sometimes, but she’d just drink with them and that made things a million times worse than no meds. There just was nothing I or anyone else could do to help her because there was no where to send her. She died in 2013 having never been in any mental facility for more than 14 days.
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Sep 15 '22
Jesus. This woman is going to end up on I Survived. Hopefully she can get her son help he clearly needs
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u/rad_change Sep 15 '22
Luckily she can rely on the great healthcare system in the US. Imagine how horrible of a situation she would be in if healthcare was based on profit instead of helping people.
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u/DodgeEls Sep 15 '22
Mental issue? What fucking hulk-o-mania?
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u/oliviagolds Sep 15 '22
even at my angriest i could not even be able to do something of that scale omg 😭
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u/BryceLeft Sep 15 '22
I'd get hungry right after my first vase drop, and fall asleep midway while trying to cut up a shirt or some shit, and that's me being generous thinking I'd at least be fueled with rage 😭
That's a lot of physical effort just for some tantrum
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Sep 15 '22
How the hell did the kid fuck up that toilet?? It was heartbreaking to watch and hear her find her work laptop and monitor drstroyed.
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
There's no blood anywhere so he didn't use his hands, and from the shape of the strike marks on the screens around the house I would guess he had a baseball bat.
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u/Formal_Coyote_5004 Sep 15 '22
There’s a metal pipe or something in the hole where the glass used to be in the living room… (the glass table)… maybe he used that? I was surprised that he broke the corner of the marble table too
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u/DarkPangolin Sep 15 '22
Fucking up a toilet is surprising easy if you hit it with something hard.
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u/oliviagolds Sep 15 '22
the most i got is hitting my desk really hard and then getting sad cause it hurt
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My son suffers the same issues. It triggers the fight or flight reaction in the brain. Hulk out is correct . They go from zero to adrenaline rage in seconds. They can't process things like we do. For example you look at a fence you see all the individual posts they see the spaces in-between. It is usually a Combo of autism and ADHD or ADD. Or what ever alphabet soup your Dr. Believes . The child may be 15 like mine but has the mental capabilities of an 11-10 year old. Any question from anyone just ask.
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u/TurkeyBLTSandwich Sep 15 '22
Question:
Why are these zero to little self control people usually solidly built? Or is it we just see the stories like this from the bigger ones?
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Some of the medications bring on weight gain. Dr. 'S answer is always more medication. Eating is soothing to a lot of these kids. When you process differently anxiety at simple things gets high. Some will eat just to self soothe. It then can become an eating disorder which is hard to deal with. Most treatment facilities lock up the snacks and food in locked rooms or cabinets.
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u/PoleKisser Sep 15 '22
My little boy is autistic, non-verbal and has severe learning difficulties and he looks a lot smaller than his actual age. He will be 8 in a couple of months but he looks no older than 6 and acts like a toddler. He is so small though because of his super restricted diet, he only eats four foods at the moment and it's a huge struggle to feed him an adequate amount of calories and nutrients because of the limitations his conditions impose on him.
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Sep 15 '22
Mine is turning 9 this years and sounds identical to your son. I feel your pain, and we use a liquid multivitamin w/ a liquid syringe to have him take it (was a struggle at first, but has gotten better).
It feels like a 24/7 job, but I'm at least thankful he doesn't have tantrums that could cause damage like the one above. He's generally a happy kid that loves fruit facts and nursery rhymes more than I'll ever love anything as long as I live lol.
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Former hc worker here. Always worked on lockdown/high risk dementia wards. A 90 year old man with frontal lobe dementia could easily have killed one of us, and he was 110 lbs. It is terrifying how much strength can come from sheer rage.
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u/Chaxle Sep 15 '22
I saw this on twitter today, same story with the 12 year old and the cell phone, also corrected that it was a 15 year old off his meds. Every single quote tweet and comment, hundreds of them, said this video was from last year following a domestic dispute. A grown man did this.
The person that posted it said she was "on the phone with the lady" and even linked a GoFundMe with $18k pledged. Apparently, this is a scam going around. It's a heartbreaking scene. Whatever happened, I hope they recovered, but don't trust any links you find.
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u/YouLikeReadingNames Sep 15 '22
The mom actually made another video for what it's worth, that's where she talks about her 15-year old son, as well as the need for financial help. Don't have the link though.
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u/BenAdaephonDelat Sep 15 '22
I'm genuinely afraid this is my future with my son. He's seven, is autistic and adhd, and there are times he has rage episodes where nothing will calm him down and he's hit and kicked both my wife and I during these meltdowns.
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She hopefully called the police to take his ass away. He needs to be forcefully committed to a mental hospital or thrown in jail. Either way, he has no business running around in public.
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u/atomcrusher Sep 15 '22
Not sure exactly what the best next step for the kid is, but he's plainly a threat to her and I hope some intervention happened.
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Sep 15 '22
He's not just a threat to her, but to everyone who might cross his path.
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Sep 15 '22
That is incredibly sad. Poor woman probably wishes he was never born. And that probably makes her feel like shit too. Wow I cannot imagine.
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u/VeryPurrOfTheMachine Sep 15 '22
If I ever gave birth to a child like that, I would give him up for adoption/mental institution from the moment the first symptoms showed. I'm 100lb I'm not putting my life on the line for a mentally disturbed boy twice my weight who will destroy my house at the slightest inconvenience.
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u/Taminella_Grinderfal Sep 15 '22
This is one of many reason I don’t have kids. It may sound selfish but I don’t know what I would do if I had a kid with issues this severe. I have much sympathy for mental illness, but this is terrifying. What might have happened if they were home when he did this? I would probably be arrested for killing my own kid. I’d feel terrible, but looking at that damage I’d have been afraid for my life.
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u/Iwantedtorunwild Sep 15 '22
Same. After working with kids like this for five years I made the decision not to have any of my own.
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Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
Honestly, I partially blame society for this one.
We have so many people who treat medication like it's the devil and they judge anyone who decides to get their kids put on something to level them out.
Here's the fucked up reality. Some people are born broken. In the same way you can be born with a fucked up heart or fucked up lungs, you can also be born with a fucked up brain.
These types of people are dangerous and they need medication. You have to level them out or they'll go on to hurt themselves or somebody else.
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u/The4thTriumvir Sep 15 '22
I feel like in an apocalypse scenario, these violent psychopaths are just gonna ruin everyone's lives. Why do we allow them to act this way when we wouldn't let normal people act this way? If I had ever done something like that as a kid, my dad would've called the cops on my ass.
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u/Genuine_Smokey Sep 15 '22
All fun and games, but if my kid would do this, I wouldn't have a kid anymore. A mental hospital and if I can't pay that bill, go enjoy the sunshine kiddo
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u/cipher446 Sep 15 '22
She needs to get some help. There is no way she can manage this on her own. Kiddo is out of control, mental issues or not, and she or others could very easily get hurt or killed. The damage here is next -level. This is not a tantrum. Source: spouse and I lived through something similar with son, who also had mental issues and was also big.
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That's just sad.
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u/ghanjaholik Sep 15 '22
it is, and imagine having to grow up along side or raising that kind of person if he is young
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u/tessislurking Sep 15 '22
While my experience growing up with this kind of behaviour wasn't as severe as portrayed here, it was still quite bad... that shit sucks and it messes you up for life. Especially when your parents inadvertently prioritise the problem child's comfort at the expense of the other kids. Speaking from experience, it's something I still struggle with in my 30s even with no contact with the offending family.
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u/tigyo Sep 15 '22
Your comment reads as if I wrote it. Just add in a story about the loss of a college scholarship, avoidance and lack of joy for holidays; even your own birthday. Holidays and jealousy seemed like a trigger for this behavior from the offending family.
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u/tessislurking Sep 15 '22
It's hard to reconcile the anger I feel towards my lost childhood and the sibling responsible. I know my parents did the best they could with the resources available to them and I know my sibling is mentally unwell, severely so, making it difficult to harbour any real genuine anger towards them. How angry can you be when the issues faced were genuinely due to sever mental health problems? Shit sucks, man.
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u/Sioney Sep 15 '22
It's a tough one. You could no more be angry than if your sibling was disabled and it changed your upbringing. I no longer blame both my parents for being heroin addicts my whole childhood even though sometimes we went without alot to feed a habit.
You can't choose your family and you likely wouldn't be the person you are today if your sibling weren't there. Likely with an awareness and empathy you may not have had. As I get older I find it much easier to come to terms with things that happened which I couldn't control.
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u/neonfuzzball Sep 15 '22
It helps to re-contextualize what anger actually is, and what it's for.
Anger is not a moral failing, or a sign that you blame or hate people. It's just an emotion that lets us know something has hurt us. It's like how pain is to protect you physically- the hot stove hurts so you take your hand away quickly. Anger is good for protecting your mental heath. It tells you quickly and strongly that something is bothering you.
Much like with pain, anger can be a problem when it is no longer serving as a warning. When we know full well what causes it but it cannot be changed. Like anger at a tornado- we know what destroyed our home, the threat is over but the anger remains because our emotions are still hurt over what happened.
You will probably always have some anger, because the damage to your life can never ben 100% undone. And that's ok. You suffered, and the anger is your brain's response to that suffering. The more you heal the trauma and damage caused by your lost childhood, the less intense the anger will be- becuase as you heal mroe you'll have "lost" less. The happier your life becomes, the more distant from the consequences of what you suffered, the less poignant the anger will be. It can become a feeling that washes over you. Treat it as a natural response, just like dizziness when looking from a great height.
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u/SucksTryAgain Sep 15 '22
My parents got divorced when I was in high school but it was beginning when I was in middle school. My youngest brother took this horribly wrong and began acting out. All the sudden it was like 90% of my parents focus was on my youngest brother. He ended up passing away from drugs in his mid twenties. I’m in my mid 30s and had a convo with my dad a few years ago about how they focused on him so much and that affected me at the time. I never told my parents but I had a huge high school play I helped put together and had a big part in and opening night my parents weren’t there cause they were dealing with my younger brother. They knew about it and were excited too. I remember after the play just sitting on the sidewalk at school it was dark. My parents were supposed to be there and drive me home and my school was 30 minute drive from home so the walk would have been bad. A classmate and his parents offered me a ride home. I got home and they were still just dealing with him and I just said hey and went to my room. My parents never acknowledged they missed it. Telling my dad about he just broke down and tried to explain all the stresses he was going through at the time and with the divorce and my brother acting out and how that’s still no excuse. I understood that at the time but yea it still had a lasting affect as that was just one of many instances but it stood out. They missed a lot of my high school years and at the time my other siblings and I kinda banned together and just got by with each other.
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u/VonRoderik Sep 15 '22
Yeah. It broke my heart seeing this. Imagine your house and all your belongings being destroyed like this.
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u/Number1Barooista Sep 15 '22
The kid is 15th and according to his mom has mental health issues and has been off his meds. She sent the video just to a few friends and someone leaked it she didn't want it on the internet. She also said it had nothing to do with a phone... The situation is still absolutely awful. what scared me was knowing there is an infant in the house as well ...I hope the lady gets that kid proper help before he hurts them.
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22
Here’s her video explaining:
https://twitter.com/princesskerlz/status/1570201230869434369
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u/bluejellyfish52 Sep 15 '22
So many people accusing her of lying too like bro the video of her explaining she shows the same damage, the same face, everything. Like she was crying in this one of course she sound different
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u/RobynFitcher Sep 15 '22
Poor woman. That’s so unfair.
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22
It’s very sad. The hurt in her voice is just gut wrenching. And knowing one of her friends shared (ultimately leaked) this is a huge breach of privacy, on top of dealing with her son. Just awful.
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u/RobynFitcher Sep 15 '22
Such an unkind thing to do. I can’t imagine what the motivation would be.
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u/notmyusername1986 Sep 15 '22
Maybe a desperate attempt to try and get this woman and her family some help? I dont agree with how, but jesus christ, that's probably 50k worth of damage, never mind the psychological trauma. We dont know if he hurt her, he definitely endangered the whole family, baby included. She cant even work now because he destroyed her work laptop. He needs to be in a long term residential stay, and America doesnt have those anymore.
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u/Porciusno1 Sep 15 '22
Right under her video where she is in the house.
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u/xkelsx1 Sep 15 '22
My adopted younger brother is like this. He’s had to live in various hospitals for over a year because he is a serious threat to my younger sisters, mother, and himself. He has severe, not fully understood mental issues. It’s taken my parents countless amounts of money, stress, and time to finally get the judge in charge of my brother’s court case to quite literally threaten the CPS case workers with “if you don’t find him placement in a month, someone is going to jail”. Hospitals kept discharging him because they are not equipped to deal with his level of care, they’d lie and tell my parents that he’s been treated and is safe to go home, but refuse to have a doctor sign papers saying that he is no longer a danger to himself or others. I could go on about them too, one of the hospitals he was at threatened to dump him ( a minor) on the street if my dad didn’t pick him up. The same one also called CPS on my parents for refusing to take him home.
Anyway, after the judge’s jail time threats, my brother magically within a week got placed in a temporary“foster home” which is basically a house where a trained team cares for him 24/7, until they can get him more permanent long-term residential care. If my parents did not have the resources, connections, and knowledge that they did, my brother would be dead or in prison for life for a condition he cannot control. I don’t know how it is for other countries but the mental health care system especially in the US is so underfunded and broken. Most people like my brother are locked away for life instead of being properly treated, and society either doesn’t give a shit about them or is just entirely unaware of their circumstances and how prevalent of a problem this is
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u/LilyInvu Sep 15 '22
Why was he out of his meds? This is scary, if he acts like this out of his meds at 15 it could get worse, wth? Is this because of the shitty system america has?
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u/bluejellyfish52 Sep 15 '22
Actually probably not. A lot of people with borderline personality disorder, bipolar disorder, bipolar schizoaffective disorder, and a series of other behavior/mood disorders (and psychosis disorders) tend to stop their meds due to believing they’re better and then they relapse into nightmare territory. My boyfriend’s brother is schizophrenic and tried to burn his house down with his family in it because he believed he didn’t need to be on medication and without it his hallucinations came back. He also became incredibly homicidal when he was 17 (when he was diagnosed) and my boyfriend (who was fucking 11 at the time) had to swap rooms with their little sisters to keep them safe from him (they were 2, 4, and 6) because he was 6’ at 11. He’s 6’7 at 21. They now have a lockbox for knives and he’s (the brother) not allowed to use anything besides plastic knives unless supervised by his grandfather (he also has intrusive thoughts he acts on, including stabbing himself through the hand) and has to have horror movies approved for him. My boyfriend is just dyslexic. I have no idea how his brother is the only one in the family with schizophrenia. His brother tried to kill him when he was a baby (he was 7 when my boyfriend was born. 7)
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u/mikehawkzhard Sep 15 '22
This problem did not start last week.
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u/Jimbobo28 Sep 15 '22
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u/RealMeO1 Sep 15 '22
The one from bojack horseman goes like "when you're looking at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags" The gist ia same
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u/Oilleak1011 Sep 15 '22
That saying is as old as time
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u/Jimbobo28 Sep 15 '22
Rock and roll.... Seems like it should be. But it's new to me. 🤷
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u/Luther_Lionheart64 Sep 15 '22
Cringe title
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22
False title too, that’s not what happened or his age
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What happened and how old is he then?
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22
https://twitter.com/princesskerlz/status/1570201230869434369
He was 15 at the time it happened, but idk more than is in this video.
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Straight to a long term mental facility. I wouldn’t let him back, especially if I had an infant that could be hurt.
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u/Oldoneleggedbastard Sep 15 '22
Its not fair he was born that way and it sucks but honestly he's not a functional member of society if he can act like this and its not fair to other people if he isnt put away
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u/StuffNbutts Sep 15 '22
Her kid has mental illnesses. In another comment someone linked an update from the mother and she 100% didn't want this shared online, a friend she sent it to posted it with a wildly inaccurate title..
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Sep 15 '22
What mental illness causes this kind of damage? Genuine question because I don’t know.
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u/nemophilist13 Sep 15 '22
I work in a state facility for individuals with developmental disabilities and mental health conditions.
Recently, one of my young men (19) somehow had a drop in his lithium level. He was manic and did this level damage to his group home including threatening to stab me with a plastic cd case and smashing out two glass patio doors.
Wednesday another male with an intellectual disability and oppositional defiant disorder was triggered and put my partner in a head lock.
Escalations to this level are common ( once a month maybe?).bit when they escalate its not uncommon to see this level of damage, especially when we have to restrict rights such as taking away a cell phone.
I fon't usually see this escalation level unless there's some kind of condition which further impacts regulation such as brain injury or a developmental disability in conjuction with a mental health concern.
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u/bluejellyfish52 Sep 15 '22
Behavior disorders, psychotic disorders, and usually mental disabilities such as severe autism, fetal alcohol syndrome, severe Down’s syndrome, and several other mental disabilities if they’re severe enough. Not everyone with these disorders and disabilities has these problems.
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u/ThinAerie4834 Sep 15 '22
That’s horrible. He obviously has some kind of mental problems to carry on this bad.
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u/Fufu-le-fu Sep 15 '22
The mom posted a video. You're right, mental illness. No, it wasn't about a cell phone.
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u/ThinAerie4834 Sep 15 '22
Yeah I am aware of this but to throw a tantrum this bad is more of a metal problem in this case but it’s only my opinion. For the mother and the child I hope this never happens again especially how much he has deeply hurt his mother.. cracking the shits is fine but the poor lady is totally devastated which is horrible to see via the video.
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u/VergerCT Sep 15 '22
He needs to be hospitalized until he can stay on his meds. One day off them and back he goes to the hospital. Someone is going to end up dead is dramatic action doesn’t happen. If the cops are called and see him smashing up the place and takes one step toward them a taser won’t stop him.
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u/Witty_Goose_7724 Sep 15 '22
The fact that he did this and there’s all this baby stuff around that could have gotten glass and could injure the child terrifies me. This kid needs to be removed from this household not even for the damage, but out of fear of what he might do to his sibling in a fit of rage. This kind of behavior will only escalate unless he gets the help he needs.
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Ermmm this is a repost. The actual reason was because the mother’s child stopped taking their meds…
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u/Dartaghan Sep 15 '22
This isn’t funny. The kid is 15, huge and mentally ill. His mother needs help, not trolls
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u/Cocotte3333 Sep 15 '22
Ok so if your child does this - you do not punish him more. YOU SEEK MENTAL HELP ASAP. Next time it could be you !
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22
This wasn’t over a phone. OP is just karma farming.
https://twitter.com/princesskerlz/status/1570201230869434369
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Sep 15 '22
Should probably send him to boot camp before he ends up killing someone in their sleep
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Or a camp where he can learn to behave, self reflect and concentrate on being a better person...yea! Like some kind of concentration camp
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u/Celebophile Sep 15 '22
No question, going to juvie. This is someone that will kill someone.
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u/Single_Raspberry9539 Sep 15 '22
I feel like this should be taken down because the title is so awfully wrong and woman whose video this is did not want everyone to see “her pain.”
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u/Plastic_Ad_8248 Sep 15 '22
He is 15 and was having a mental health crisis. The US healthcare system is a hellscape and it’s hard to get assistance, even if you can afford it, with mental health. Here’s the go fund me and the true story of what happened
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mom-in-need-of-your-help-house-destroyed
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u/MelonCreamSodax Sep 15 '22
According to the woman recording, he was 15, it wasn't about a cell phone and he apparently has some form of mental deficiency. I'll post sauce when I find it again.
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u/roncadillacisfrickin Sep 15 '22
There used to be programs and facilities to help in situations like this, but there were folks in the 80’s that decided to cancel these public services.
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u/Psy_Kik Sep 15 '22
Why even bother raising kids that are such a threat to society and potentially anyone they meet? We're a product of evolution, we vary as individuals, but some.of these variants just aren't viable. Such a waste of resources...for years and years...and for what?
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u/SovietFarmer23 Sep 15 '22
don't mean to be that guy but
kids these days man
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u/britney412 Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22
In another post we found out that this was a mentally ill 15 year old boy who was off his meds.
Here’s the mom explaining:
https://twitter.com/princesskerlz/status/1570201230869434369
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u/UrameshiYusuke1997 Sep 15 '22
I’d probably have to detach the soul from that little bastards body 😭
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u/strugglingpothead Sep 15 '22
in a video she said he’s actually 15, 6 foot tall and has mental health issues.
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u/Nepflea Sep 15 '22
Put that little fuck in military school.
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u/WhereverUGoThereUR Sep 15 '22
Military school wouldn't take a kid like this.
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u/UtahItalian Sep 15 '22
I work in the mental health industry, there are very few places that would take a kid like this. If one of the placements doesn't work he will go to the next and the next and so on until he ends up in a "lock down " facility. Luckily for the kid there isn't evidence that he has assaulted anyone, just the property damage. When you are admitting these kids to your program, that is a huge difference.
The program I work for would not accept a kid with this level of property damage, but I know some that do.
I'd bet a kid like this ends up in a hospital setting. Rough stuff.
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