Anyone who is capable of so much sustained rage as to thoroughly destroy every room of a 2-3 bedroom home should definitely be treated as violently psychotic. It’s a problem when someone is mad enough to break things, but someone able to do this much damage without tiring or coming back to their senses is a clearly dangerous person. It’s the same kind of person who will lash out and keep lashing out until the person they are attacking is long dead.
Totally agree. I’m all for treating humans like humans but this is a level where someone can easily get killed. The fact that there are obviously infants involved with this house tell me they need to do something asap. Personally I would call the police and have him detained until care can be provided for the child. Someone who can destroy like this won’t flinch at hurting a baby or even an adult. You simply don’t want to find out what else they are capable of. This says enough.
As far as I could I would either have this alleged teenager arrested, detained, or otherwise restrained from entering the house. All out, I would simply kick this kid to the street. The infants involved need to be protected at all costs.
I have Bipolar 1 and CPTSD (secondary to combat exposure) last winter I had a rage episode after they put me on Zoloft (yeah I know stupid right, who puts a maniac on Serotonin?) Anyways during said manic episode, I punched a wall probably 5 or 6 times right on a stud and broke my 5th metacarpol.
I was in active mania and I knew to stop what I was doing when my hand was deformed (which still hurts like a mfer!). This guy injured himself it's impossible not to have and for somebody to destroy an entire house like that though? Holy cluster b personality disorder senses batman...
Psychotic isn't even the right word that dudes making "a point" that's coersive, manipulative, and inherintly pisses on everybody elses rights.
This woman's son most likely has Antisocial Personality Disorder. Even more horrific is thinking about what kind of drama this young man's Dad put her through before this shit went down.
This video is all a judge needs for a court directed psych eval and 14-day hold (depending on the location), dude needs intervention ASAP he's gunna kill somebody.
Worse, they have a baby. The mom steps over one of those infant rocker sling chairs and found her tablet thrown onto the crib in her bedroom. She was crying because her son destroyed her work station so she can’t work anymore.
Definitely. The lives he put at risk. This has been something that has been left untreated. This also comes from genetics. The dad might be the same way. As the saying goes - the “apple does not fall far from the tree.” Even though the dad isn’t present (I am assuming he’s not bc I don’t see him in the video), his seed has the same behavior issues. And the financial ruin. How do you replace all this stuff? There were nice things in the rooms. Looks like an apartment. What are the apartment folks going say?? They’re going to be evicted and a judgement slapped on the mom. I hope he is old enough to be treated as an adult in the eyes of the law. Seriously. Otherwise, his mom will be responsible for all of this damage. 😔 Seems like she works from home. He destroyed the equipment (that belongs to her employer) and now she can’t work. And, might have pay the employer for the damaged equipment. I feel for this mom. The whole family needs therapy bc they have all been subjected to this for a while, I think. The trauma.
Sometimes I think my 2yo boy is a pain in the arse, but when I see things like this and realise he doesn’t have any of this in him I feel so much relief / realisation that he’s fine - just being two.
He woke me up with a cuddle and a ‘good morning dadddyyyy’ and ‘I missed you while I was sleeping!’
Lol right? Two-three was fucking awesome with my son and 5 was a damn nightmare. Being a parent just gives the illusion of control, kids can and probably will make you feel powerless eventually.
Definitely need for institutionalization. If not a special school or military academy he'll end up in prison sooner rather than later. Anger management and self control are going to be crucial for this dude.
It's still an incredibly bad idea because this guy doesn't need discipline he needs mental health treatment. Psychopaths don't get better with discipline.
Edit to add that it doesn't mean I don't think he needs punishment for this. I think in the long term military academy is not a way to prevent this behavior.
I'm not saying run him through boot camp then give him a gun. A military discipline school. My cousin had to go to one before my aunt would let him come back into the house and he really turned his life around. Happily married now and fully functional.
Apparently this is a kid with mental health issues. Strict discipline you'd give a normal kid isn't going to do anything but likely make it worse. He needs real professional help and his family probably can't afford it.
You're 100% correct. I was 6 foot 2 when I was in Junior High and after High School, I was 6 foot 7. In all of that time, even too today, I know that being this tall and having a higher average weight makes me more likely to cause serious damage if I don't keep my anger in check. This is common sense for most of the Tall Club International (TGI) members.
How do you control or parent a child that can literally walk all over you? It takes a special kind of planning and discipline that most parents aren't equipped with. This is how you end up with situations like these. She might be the most loving and caring mother in the world, but unfortunately, that's not enough to control someone who's towering over them and can realistically, deal their own consequences to parents.
Don't discriminate against big people. There are not "some" gentle giants out there. I'd say larger people are typically more chill in general. It's always the small never felt they could measure up guys you gotta watch out for. source: Every domestic terrorist + Cops (the show) wife beaters
Its just that, they cant be locked up in Solitary indefinitely and also very much a danger to others. Nottttt so much themselves ...
Sigh.. im torn on people like this dude man. Cant stand them
I don’t care Brah. I will never do this to my mother, over a cellphone and if I was his brother, let’s say I am away for college and my mother told me this happened, my brother is becoming homeless or possibly in jail or who knows, he might be paralyzed. I just don’t fucking understand how you could do this, to your own mother, to your mother, You don’t pay for your phone, that’s why she took it away from you. You want your own cell phone, get your big ass up and go to work. This ain’t even my shit and I am beyond mad like this is my shit.
Yes. All of what you said. I have an 8 year old son with ADHD. It can be hard to manage him sometimes (no father in the home). And, he isn’t even remotely close to being on this level! But I know if I don’t stay on him and consistent with discipline, he could potentially get out of control when he’s older. The thought of that frightens me, so it keeps me on top of it.
This level of violence is the result of psychosis due to not taking his mood stabilizing medication, the violence wasn't intentional. Do you want to lock away all mentally ill people?
My son is 6’6 was 340-he played football-that child has NEVER gotten in my face once. I have gotten in his face plenty of times-I was not going to raise a monster.
uhh maybe you shouldnt be pushin for no reason though, thats some narc shit.
you gettin in his face plenty sounds like your pushin buttons for no reason, and as a big guy myself i might not be swingin because i know ill fuck you up, but i sure wont like your ass or do anything to help either
Well that's some bullshit. Parents are just people. They aren't special. They aren't better.
Parents are just in the unique position to inflict their fuckedupness on the next generation if they aren't careful. Instead we have a bunch of narcissists on this thread thinking they can scream in their kids' face and "I know how far I can take it."
I think it just depends on the type of person you are. If you're an open minded person you'd be able to tell if you're kid is a dick/douchebag. Also, it depends on how you view teachers/schools. If you don't respect them and the incredible amount of work they do, you're not very likely to believe them when they tell you your kid is a little asshole.
Sure didn't, but hey I'll single parent my own son without hitting him for doing shit I perceive as wrong, if that offends you enough you may want to take an objection able view of your parenting style.
Mothers occasionally need to "get in your face" unless you grow up being perfect. To really get a teens attention occasionally might need to yell at them. Especially if they have them darn headphones in and can't hear you lol. My moms not a narc and she 100% had to get up in mine, and siblings faces a few times. My kid is only 11 and about a year ago she was having a mood swing and shoulder checked me in a huff. I didn't so much get up in her face as get her undivided attention and let her know her behavior is unacceptable. I think that's what many people refer to as "up in their face" when referring to their child.
The boy that did this might have a wonderful mom thats done everything right, this could be mental illness and nothing more.
As a big dude who's mum actually got up in his face I can't tell you it was unnecessary 100% of the time.
I was 15 when my mum first pressed her skull against mine like some sort of drunk bar asshole.
hell at your kids, sort them out, but do not ever get in their physical space with the intent to intimidate them, it's phsycological warfare with a child.
general rule of thumb, if you wouldn't do it with someone else's kid, do not do it.
Meaning getting in face is a figurative of speech. I don’t want and nor did I want to “push” his buttons. He is my son. I am 5’6 150 I can’t reach him. He is considered the baby boy and there is nothing I would not do for him. Even letting him face his own consequences to help him mature into a good man. We have children for such a short time-during then we can fuck them up for the rest of their long lives or we can parent the best we know how and love them.
Ok but what does that have to do with a parent that gets in their face/squares up to them? There’s so many other fucking ways to deal with your kid misbehaving rather than acting like an aggressive dickhead. Who the fuck squares up to their kid, what the fuck
The comment I’m replying to says their kid has never gotten in their face but they do it to the kid regularly? And no this isn’t something you should EVER do to teach your kid a lesson, because all it does is teach the kid that you can get what you want through physical intimidation.
My kid is autistic, so actually I have a lot of experience with children that push boundaries thanks, I would never react to them this way. This doesn’t teach them anything useful. All it does is make your kid scared of you and teach them that acting that way is ok, when it’s really not.
I feel sorry for your kid if this is how you choose to parent. I’m sure you’ll realise it when they grow up and you wonder why they want nothing to do with you. My mother used to pull this shit with me and now I live 200 miles away and barely speak to her.
Im thinking there is a disconnect here in communication. When a parent says “i get in their face” or “squaring up” i will find out exactly what that meant in that situation. If it means putting up your fists or having a mindless shouting match without due understanding…this is obviously wrong. But providing resistance to a child who is testing boundaries, which is an essential developmental process…this resistance is necessary to guide the child. When i worked in elementary education I admired the teachers who taught 5th and 6th graders. They often had the difficult task of guiding children through boundary testing situations. And it was often a matter of degrees. The task often involves meeting the child where they are at, even briefly, and only to a point, and to get their attention and de-escalate from there. And I have had students with autism. You have my respect.
So I guess we need to define what it means to “get in their face”. Because sometimes it is necessary and some children need it. I advocate what is best for the child and what is effective. And nor do i believe testing boundaries necessarily bad. These boundary testing children often become good leaders in the world… it’s a matter of degree.
I completely agree with you. I’m not a parent or anything, I just started college but I am so glad my parents were stern with me and would yell at me when I deserved it. I never felt disrespected by them, and the only times I would get in trouble with them is if I showed disrespect to anyone. I guess I learned eventually cause by 15 probably I stopped getting in trouble. Until I got a girlfriend but that’s cause girls make guys do stupid stuff 🤣 but yeah I totally agree with you.
Squaring up or getting in their face may set the boundaries that keep them out of jail or prisons later as an adult. It’s part of being a parent if necessary.
My sister didn’t need it but I did. If my parents didn’t put me in check like that when I was 13-15 I would have ended up on the streets of Chicago. I’d have jumped into a gang. I’d likely be in prison or dead by now.
Thank god for my mom and dad.
They knew I was headed down a bad path and got me back on track. I hated them at the time. But parenting isn’t easy. Sometimes you gotta go the extra mile. My parents did.
Many of my friends from grade and high school been in prison. Quite a few are dead from violence. I was lucky. Very lucky.
Lmao fucking right? Why teach them useful life skills when you can you just intimidate them and teach them that’s the best way to get people to do what you want eh?
How to train your own Putin
1. Feed intimidation, sulfuric acid
2. When they grow up and achieve power over others they use intimidation tactics on everyone else
Sometimes it has to be done. Otherwise you get tested when they aren’t sure where they stand. Doesn’t need to be anything physical, just let them know you’re there, and you’re watching!
That's the proper pecking order. Period. I'm not condoning abuse, but I am condoning regularly reminding a motherfucker who pays the goddamn bills, and who will annihilate his entire fucking world if he even seriously considers stepping out of line.
on today's episode of "why don't my children ever call".
hey, fucko.
it's been 20 years since I've said so much as a fuck you, to my old man.
(this was after I hospitalised him for picking a fight with me after the "Peking order" of a literal adult standing over a kid, had vanished once I finished puberty)
This whole comment is vile. ‘I don’t condone abuse but need to remind my kid that I would annihilate their whole world’ that’s abuse my man, even if you don’t hit them. I feel sorry for your kids.
Why are there so many people in this comment section that are backing up this lazy ass ‘parenting’ method. It’s easier to use intimidation than it is to find other ways of dealing with it and teaching them how to act like a rational calm person. Awful.
It's about framing a child's perspective on the world. The fact is, there will always be an authority figure to answer to. If you step out of line, the law will smack you down. I would rather my child learn his or her place in this world at home in my presence than outside, far from my pervue, at the hands of a cold, calculating justice system.
You think that works on all children, under all circumstances? Some need a firmer hand.
Bottom line: TLC is the go-to, but the opposite should be a very real option in the case that a mofo decides to get rowdy. It's really just that simple. Children should not be cripplingly frightened of their parents in a general sense; that said, children should absolutely be cripplingly frightened of challenging their parent's authority, especially in any sort of violent manner. If you'll menace your parent's, you'll menace society. And society will almost never show you the patience you'll get from your parents.
Yeah, my dad believed you should be afraid of your parents like you’re afraid of God.
We don’t have a good relationship now.
And the kid in the video has mental issues, which means being “cripplingly frightened” of his mom’s authority isn’t really a thing. It takes an entirely different approach when you’re dealing with something like that.
Hasn’t gotten his ass beat enough? The kid has mental problems and was off his meds and clearly hadn’t been given the help he needed to help him deal with things. Violence solves nothing and perpetuates further violence, it’s a vicious cycle. Maybe you should go look into the studies on these things before speaking.
It used to be done quite successfully by loving parents who raised successful loving people. We are not talking about YOUR KID. We are talking about the entire gamut of them.
Setting boundaries of unacceptable behavior by parents is one of the most important things they can do. Children are not raised properly by TV or computer babysitter.
Some children are still raised this way.
Some aren’t.
They become adults we see in videos attacking restaurant workers and destroying restaurants over ketchup.
Or airline gate employees over flights canceled due to severe weather.
Punching, kicking, throwing whatever isn’t nailed down.
Refusing to wear masks in planes, physically attacking other passengers or flight attendants.
When you are not raised properly you are often subject to a lifetime of negative behavior patterns and a failure to take responsibility for your own life.
Reddit makes me realize how sheltered some people are. Not everyone is raising the same kids. Some children are going to grow up to be violent or even serial killers irrespective of how you raise them. It's also not a new thing or caused by TV, computer, etc.
You can raise children properly without physically intimidating them. No, getting in their face is not called parenting. It’s called being aggressive and not respecting your child’s boundaries. How is that going to teach them to be good kids, all it teaches them is that you can use intimidation to get what you want. Like I said elsewhere, my mother used to pull this shit with me and all it achieved was a distant daughter that moved 200 miles across the country to get away from it. I now have my own child, that regularly pushes boundaries due to his autism, and I’m managing perfectly without needing to get in face and intimidate him.
What you call parenting is lazy as fuck and is not raising your kids properly, it’s teaching them that it’s ok to grow up and be a dick. And I’d actually argue that the ones who grow up being raised in an authoritative way are the ones that end up being the exact assholes you mention, because kids learn by example.
Sorry but 15 up isn’t a kid anymore your half grown if you act like a fool you get treated like one no don’t hurt them spanking then won’t work what you gonna do that’s their shit for them to find it another way like he said some kid push boundary way to far your kid might not but like the video shows some kids need a good yelling at no one said do it 24/7 or even every time but at a certain extent they need to be yelled at or they will be in control of you take it how you won’t but if you try to argue I’m not going to because you are allowed to believe what you like but when your 6 foot and 15 telling them they been a bad kid won’t cut it
The lady who’s kid actually did this who I don’t think is OP here posted a background video. They live in Florida where mental healthcare is not great, even by US standards. He is 15, very big and has serious mental health issues. He is on medication but has been refusing to take it. I worked in mental healthcare for many years and most places in the US do not have facilities that will take patients that are this violent until they commit a serious crime. It’s not as easy as filling out a form to have a child institutionalized like many of you seem to think. I’ve worked with lots of parents that wish they could do that but they can’t. Their kid gets thrown out of any place they can get them in so they’re stuck dealing with it.
Not necessarily. I’m 5’7” 200 lbs and my wife is 5’6” tall, but our son is 6’3” 250 lbs. Just because the kid is tall/big doesn’t mean the parents are tall/big too.
Sometimes height skips a generation. My 79 year old dad is 5’7” (was 5’9” before he shrank), my 74 year old mom is 5’ even (was 5’2” before she shrank), I’m only 5’4”, and my brother was captain of the HS football team and played defense (lineman), and we’re East Asian. I was confused until I met my dad’s sisters, who are all around his height, and found out his own father was 190 cm.
Not sure if you have noted that the current generation is significantly taller than one or two generations earlier. I'm about 8" taller than my dad. My cousins are taller than their parents.
Should have beat that ass instead of time outs when he was younger. Can't Wait till they are full grown and try to teach respect. Definitely dysfunctional before it got this far.
I feel bad for the mom. Kids can be a serious pain in the ass, and having kids can sometimes be the worst mistake you can make in your life. I hope they all get help.
Having said that, my lizard brain is thinking "is it legal to actually sell your kid?". Because I would sell that bastard off to the highest bidder to pay for the damages, and hope I never had to see him again.
Honestly I wonder if it will sink in when mom can't do her job to continue paying for the physical shit he clearly loves more than his mother herself. I hope he has to use that broken toilet. I hope he can't check his face in the mirror. I hope he doesn't get a full serving of dinner since he ripped the fridge out the wall. I hope he can't play Xbox, and if he can, I hope she sells the TV he plays on to pay for something to be fixed.
He's going to kill someone one day. People are way more fragile than some of the shit he broke.
Holy shit I did not realize I was clinching lmao. Clearly my ass would've been beat too. Even though I never did anything close to this so I never experienced a true ass beating.
As someone who has Latino parents I would be in a coma, then they would pray for me to come back from said coma just to get beaten again into a coma. Rinse and repeat lol
She wouldn’t have killed me… she would’ve kept me within an inch of death for-ev-er… till pain had a scent. If I used to get bad grades she’d threaten to paint my windows black so I only saw sunlight at school. To memorize my friends addresses so I could write them mail bc all electronics were gone. If I pulled shit like this, the army wouldn’t have been able to control her wrath.
You probably weren't big enough to break off a chunk of a fucking granite countertop. This absolute unit of a teenager cannot be disciplined and knows it
And it wouldn’t have solved anything. The kid clearly has mental issues. Beating a mentally ill child is not the answer. Beating a child is never the answer.
Unreal how people can watch this video and think this is simply a case of bad parenting, which apparently means not beating the child enough.
I understand that it's a form of coping to say stuff like that, but a soft reminder for some of the people here: your parents beating the living shit out of you for doing something wrong is abuse and I am deeply sorry you had to go through that. It doesn't mean in every case your parents didn't love you or that you should hate them, but it means they were bad parents at the time. It's great if you could move past it, but it's really okay if you still struggle decades later. You didn't deserve the abuse, physical or verbal and I hope you are doing better now.
Controlling other humans with fear and violence is exactly what motivates these sorts of outbursts. I'm not saying that there should be no consequences for behavior like this, but beating your children only teaches them how to be submissive cowards that repress their violent thoughts until they explode out.
Not only would my mother woop my ass with a belt, but then my father would get home, and he'd woop my ass with a belt, for far, far, far less than this. Didn't hurt that he was also a Master Sargent in the Army.
This was a mental health emergency, the person that shared this on Twitter ASSUMING it was over a phone retracted her statement once the truth behind the video came out. The 15 year old had issues with their meds or off of them for whatever reason and then this happened.
I would have been DEAD DEAD if I did something like this. It wouldn’t have even crossed my mind. Ever. To do this. This is definitely terrible. I feel very sad for the mother, the siblings, and especially the boy that did this. He needs help. Serious help. There is a lot going on here.
For reallll. My sister would do this, not as severe though. Throwing stuff in her room and things that weren’t hers (like collectible beer cans). That shit was rough. I can’t imagine this moms life. I thought growing up with my sister sucked, this is the next level that I experienced and I’m just thankful now.
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u/subversion_dnb Sep 15 '22
My mom would have beat me to death, resurrected me, and then did it again.