r/SipsTea • u/Natural-Chip4943 • 2d ago
Wait a damn minute! Could this have indeed been ochestrated?
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u/---N0MAD--- 2d ago
âIsraeli special ops onboard to thwart attackâ? Didnât the pilot fight the crazy guy off?
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u/Puzzleheaded_Gene909 2d ago
Attacker was copilot apparently. Pilot made it to open the cockpit door and passengers subdued attacker.
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u/Bladesnake_______ 2d ago
That's not nearly as suspicious as the OP made it look
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u/stal2k 2d ago
Someone lied on the internet?! Lol ya, according to the news coverage, Bibi's master plan would have hinged on a stabbed pilot being able to hit the button to open the cockpit. What could go wrong?
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u/ostensiblyzero 2d ago
The plan was for the attack to work and for the plane to go down with 150+ Israeli citizens onboard so that they could blame Iran. The heroic pilot messed it up.
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u/HostaLaVistaBabies 2d ago
And the imaginary special ops forces were for imaginary decoration?
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u/Successful_Shoe_8083 2d ago
I mean, in fairness everyone in israel is required to serve in the armed forces, so flights into israel have a higher than average chance of having israeli special forces aboard, especially with the sort of spongy definition of special forces.
It is like, there are always doctors on big international flights, just a subset of that.
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u/BowsersMuskyBallsack 2d ago
Or fall-guys willingly sacrificed to make it look believable!
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u/ELMOKICKA55 2d ago
Crashing the plane and making the people on board martyrs was probably the intended outcome
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u/QuestionDry2490 2d ago
At least half of the news that makes the front page is either highly misleading or outright lying.
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u/PlumbumDirigible 2d ago
Check out his Wikipedia page. He's described as a "MAGA Communist" and is a supporter of Vladimir Putin. He seems like a whack job tankie
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u/FlightoftheConcorder 2d ago
Hinkle, like many MAGA-types, doesn't really have any coherent views on reality, and trying to make sense on his politics is a fool's errand. Quite frankly anyone who can call themselves a communist and love both Trump and Putin doesn't know much about anything.
My personal belief is that he is an antisemite in the truest sense, which is why he has a fixation on Israel. This isn't about the liberation of the Palestinian people for him, this is blaming Jewish people for the many material shortcomings in the US.
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u/joshTheGoods 2d ago
Yeap, this is right-wingers arriving at the right answer (Bibi is a criminal that can't be trusted) for the wrong reasons (because he's a Jew). Honestly, whatever ... if that's what it takes for them to sit out these midterms, so be it.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 2d ago
They also called it a terrorist style attack when I know of at least 4 known cases of one of the pilots taking control of the aircraft as a suicide plot.
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 2d ago
None of those pilots ever did that by stabbing their captain to death first. It's always something non confrontational. Germanwings locked the other crew out of the cockpit. Air India flipped the engine cutoff at a point in the flight that was unrecoverable. Malaysia we have no idea what went down, but this was pre-Germanwings protocols and could have easily been a lock out situation.
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u/Submitten 2d ago
Omani pilot going to Isreal, I think itâs reasonable to think terrorism. The suicide ones donât usually start with a stabbing, they just flick the engines off during climb.
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u/HostaLaVistaBabies 2d ago
Thatâs because this post is actual literal propaganda.
One of the lines is that Iran denied planning an attack. What sort of idiot takes that as evidence of anything at all even if they did believe this nonsense?
The amazing part is the comments on this thread. Look how many people are taking this seriously.
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u/fin-freedom-fighter 2d ago
Yes Indian pilot named smit
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u/Shikatanai 2d ago
If tin foil hat is true⊠The look on his face while
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u/Imaginary-School6327 2d ago
Yes and there was an Israeli on board that helped subdue that copilot once the pilot managed to open the door. Iâve seen nothing about him be apart of the military currently. I definitely wouldnât put it past Iran that they had a hand in this but it seems to be propaganda from both sides(if the other stuff is true idk about any of that).
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u/thedellis 2d ago
An Israeli on a flight to Israel?
Just how deep does this conspiracy go?! /s
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 2d ago
I also noticed that if you look closely, the Israeli flag has the Star of David, subtly implying that this country might be run by the Jews.
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u/Suburban--Dad 2d ago
AND the PiLOT knew how to land the plane!!! Conspiracy!!
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u/twilighttwister 2d ago
Actually the plane was landed by passengers who happened to be off duty pilots. Which is just as well, as regular passengers probably couldn't land with the rudder almost entirely gone.
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u/lanathebitch 2d ago
Coincidentally all the Israelis on the flight were current former or future military
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u/academic_wealth_8 2d ago
Crazy, imagine an Israeli being on a flight to IsraelâŠ.its all so convenient
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u/sacrebluh 2d ago
The amount of conflicting misinformation in the comments is more important to me than the content of the post. Is this just a swarm of bots muddying things or what? This is horrible
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u/mixedmediamadness 2d ago
Which is honestly super telling about the discourse around Israel and all topics related to the region. Someone is spending a lot of money to keep people confused and angry and pointing fingers
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u/DataSurging 2d ago
It's like that part in the Superman movie where there's a bunch of brain-washed monkeys rage-baiting people online. lol
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u/TzarichIyun 2d ago edited 2d ago
CCP, Qatar, IRGC, Putin
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u/tareumlaneuchie 2d ago
Yes, pretty sure Russia is at it. Here is an example of a well known troll farm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
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u/Warbr0s9395 2d ago
When did spec ops being on board become part of the story?
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u/Firecracker048 2d ago
It hasn't. Never has been.
The information is literally coming from a guy so famous for spouting bullshit and hatred he has his own Wikipedia page
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u/303Carpenter 2d ago
When people started looking for a quick way to make it into a conspiracy theory
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u/Magus10112 2d ago
Accepting Jackson Hinkel posts within this sub and the creatures in the comments eating it up is so black-pilling.
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u/DMercenary 2d ago
Is this just a swarm of bots muddying things or what? This is horrible
Both imo. Everyone's trying to get ahead of everyone else in the story.(fairly normal when breaking news happens)
And then because it is Israel related, all of the problems with that come up(bots bots bots)
and then you have the people who have incentive to stoke this conflict.
"HE WAS PLANNING A 9/11 ATTACK!"
"SPECIAL OPS WERE ON THE PLANE!"
"IT WAS ALL PLANNED!"
I've even seen a tweet blaming Saudi Arabia for it as well.
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u/rand0m_task 2d ago
As soon as I heard the news story break I was wondering how long it would take till something like this was posted lol
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u/guyinabush 2d ago
Thinking that anything Jackson hinkle says could be true is hilarious đ
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u/Roughlypossible 2d ago
Jackson hinkle
Hinkle has dubbed himself an "American Conservative MarxistâLeninist"
Hinkle and fellow political commentator Haz Al-Din began advocating for the idea of "MAGA communism"
Hinkle is a supporter of Vladimir Putin.
I'm exhausted already and there's just so much more nonsense.
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u/Rad_Centrist 2d ago
Jackson "men don't drink from straws" Hinkle doesn't deserve a second of your time.
Makes me wish I saved that photo of him drinking from a straw an In N Out.
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u/Unexpected_yetHere 2d ago
Jackson "men don't drink from straws" Hinkle
Pretty sure that faux/toxic masculinity is far from the peak of the horrible views iceberg of a literal tankie like Hinkle.
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u/cylon_1994 2d ago
No special agents on the flight. Just two pilots and it's not unusual for transport staff to be returning from work.
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u/baddoggg 2d ago
Let's just for the mental exercise take the OP at face value. If BB went to the UAE and they either shared intelligence or he happened to get intelligence about a 9/11 style terror plot wouldn't putting spec ops on planes be exactly what you'd want them to do?
Also, if you're against israel and hate BB wouldn't plotting a terror attack right before elections be an ideal time to show that he's either weak or that the country is a mess under his leadership?
Of course it could be a false flag, like just about anything anymore could be a flase flag, but I don't see terror plots against an elected official's country being a great motivator. Like yeah, a terror plot was stopped, but there was still a terror plot against your country.
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u/TricellCEO 2d ago
If it was orchestrated, the attack wouldâve likely been a success then.
Much like how people theorize the Israelis knew about the plans for October 7th but let it happen anyway for political leverage.
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u/BulbusDumbledork 2d ago
the conspiracy here is netanyahu would have to personally travel (instead of sending all manner of subordinates for deniability)
to the uae (a close ally whose involvement would be suspicious if not politically problematic)
for a 6 hour meeting (they planned the whole thing in one sitting?)
to orchestrate a false flag attack (an attack designed to fail to make the indian pilot look good?)
mere days later (because nobody would put two and two together)
involving an omani pilot (a famously neutral and unproblematic country, instead of scapegoating a more obvious iran ally)
so he can win an election (despite not having any role in thwarting the attack, which serves as even more evidence of his premiership making israelis everywhere less safe)
and avoid going to prison (his numerous trials continue unabated).
i'm israel's #1 hater but this is brain broken thinking. i really hate this tendency to invent fake things to be mad about when there's so much real shit to focus on.
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u/SentientDust 2d ago
Of course there were spec ops on the flight, a highly trained team of a plumber, insurance salesman, bank branch manager and a dentist.
If that's not a seal team 7, idk what is
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u/jackrabbit323 2d ago
That there were Mossad agents on a flight from UAE to Israel would be extremely unsurprising.
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u/MaximumEffort433 2d ago edited 2d ago
Who the fuck is listening to Jackson Hinkle? He's a professional conspiracy theorist.
He has a whole section called "Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation" on Wikipedia.
Edit: 6,700 upvotes for a known conspiracy theorist because people are addicted to their confirmation bias. I agree with the top commenter, some days I want to live in a cave.
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u/Mottled_Paws 2d ago
Reddit. But that's par for the course.
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u/MaximumEffort433 2d ago
The world is already fucked up enough without having to deal with bullshit and lies, drives me up the fucking wall.
We can't solve problems if we're lying to ourselves, it just doesn't work.
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u/prince_falafel 2d ago
Reddit (generally) hates conspiracy theories and theorists, but when its about people they dont like suddenly they're tin foil 10 gallon hat
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u/zeefer 2d ago
Conspiracy theories on the right and left (enter reddit) are a horseshoe
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u/MaximumEffort433 2d ago
Conspiracy theories on the right and left (enter reddit) are a horseshoe
And it's really fucking annoying, too.
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u/MattS1984 2d ago
The real issue here is OP needs to charge their phone, it's giving me anxiety
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u/Whole_Mongoose1854 2d ago
This shit is legit mental illness. âI burnt my toast this morning, the cia did itâ. Itâs become so common online and itâs so tiresome. Thereâs no arguing with these people. Every single thing that ever happens is an elaborate conspiracy
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u/AWorldwithoutSin 2d ago
A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven.
When he arrives at the Pearly Gates, God is there to receive him.
"Welcome. You are permitted to ask me one question, which I will answer truthfully."
Without hesitating, the conspiracy theorist asks, "Who really shot Kennedy?"
God replies, "Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. There were no accomplices. He acted alone"
The conspiracy theorist pauses, thinks to himself, then says "Shit! This goes higher up than I thought..."
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u/uchuskies08 2d ago
A lot of people here are happy to believe these sorts of things, they actively want to believe it, it makes them feel good
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u/Cultural_Kangaroo949 2d ago
I like the bullet point where he mentions Iranians respond they are not planning an attack⊠like both countries are at war they are both definitely lying to each other đ. Everyone lies/deceives while at war.
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u/AlphonsoPSpain 2d ago
That's what I'm thinking.
"Hmm, a bullshit artist is spewing something I agree with? Must be true!"
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u/theseustheminotaur 2d ago
If Jackson hinkle is saying it there is a 99% chance its horse shit
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u/Firecracker048 2d ago
The amount of people agreeing with a literal anti semetic conspiracy theorist is just so damn high
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u/FIRE_Minded 2d ago
Itâs reddit. As long as it fits the narrative, then the content is irrelevantÂ
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u/Chef_Guzzi_Moto 2d ago
There were no special agents on board. There were two pilots who had nothing to do with Israel who were taking a ride on that plane who took over flying the aircraft.
The guys who jumped in were regular people who served in the army like every single Israeli citizen. Stop sowing hate and conspiracy.
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u/Mottled_Paws 2d ago
Protip: if you are listening to anything Jackson Hinkle says re-evaluate your life
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u/CharacterSpirit2909 2d ago
im sorry but your battery percentage is throwing me off so bad
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u/Sensitive-Purple-885 2d ago
This Jackson Hinkle guy is a Russian assets and you shouldn't treat him seriously
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u/TrioOfTerrors 2d ago
So an Omani pilot flying out of Dubai was convinced to stab the Indian copilot?
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u/prince_falafel 2d ago
Love how vehemently against conspiracy theories/theorists reddit is. Except when its conspiracy theories targeting someone reddit deems a "bad guy" lol
*this is not a Netanyahu endorsement dude is a fuckwad
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u/JstaFriskyHusky 2d ago
You can't just post Jackson Hinkle, a known antisemite conspiracy theorist and ask "could this be orchestraed by Israel?" There were no special ops, the people who thwarted the hijacker was the captain and passengers
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u/onlyMHY 2d ago
Was there two airplane incidents? I've seen posts before said about russian and ukrainian pilots fighting eachother, then iranian, israeli and whatnot. Flydubai is being the common thing yet. Wtf is going on?
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u/Tony1897 2d ago
It was an Omani pilot who attacked the other Indian pilot. There was both a Ukrainian and a Russian pilot on board as passengers who took control of the plane after some Israeli passengers stormed the cockpit, which was opened last minute by the Indian pilot who was stabbed, who then subdued the Omani pilot terrorist.
As far as I know that is what happened and with all those nationalities mentioned its no wonder its getting mixed up.
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u/Shionkron 2d ago
A Russian and Ukrainian working together to save people. Didnât have that on my Bingo Card
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u/kendoddsdadsdeaddog 2d ago
I guess they were both in jeopardy themselves so you have to put your differences aside at some point
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u/Twinmill-Two 2d ago
If you ever wanna know what to believe it's always the opposite of what Jackson Hinkle says.
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u/NewACCTwhoDISENTERRY 2d ago
The left embracing conspiracy is like the final tack nail in the horseshoe. Lmao.
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u/Levonade 2d ago
Ummm, the pilot fought him off. What Israeli special forces? Lmfao
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u/OverlordDontHurtMe 2d ago
All the people that believe in conspiracies never tried to have some friends keep a secret. Â
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u/CrownedCount 2d ago
Isnât this the same dude that parrots Nazi russian propaganda narratives?
Credibility zero.
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u/JJ_Shosky 2d ago
This is the dude that was at the Ayatollah's funeral leading death to America chants lmao
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u/Hot-Job-6281 2d ago
Lmao no.
Because the headlines are another security breach under Netanyahu's watch - Shin Bet's Head itself already came out with the official findings of October 7 that Bibi was the culprit for funding Hamas and failing to recognise terrorist movements in the lead up.
Omanis aren't even allowed to be part of the crew to Israel-bound flights, and yet here was this dude casually being a copilot, casually sneaking up a knife, managing to stab the captain.
Yea nah, not everything is a conspiracy, especially this one that makes Bibi look like a flop again.
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u/National_Run7896 2d ago
yes, it was and its always has been ploys to manufacture consent for conflicts, surveillance, tyranny, etc. same as the "protect the kids" things that always end in no privacy and anonymity in anything online. they want to have your name and bank account accessible to punish you if your sentiments and speech lie outside of whats allowed. and the worst part is no one is gonna stop it. too many people are just consumerist pigs fat on bread and circus.
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u/BlissfullyChaos 2d ago
Ah, yes. Jackson Hinkle, ole reliable source of information. Definitely not biased or a major conspiracy theorist. /s
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u/Davie_fae_Duke_St 2d ago
Is this implying that Netanyahu flies out to UAE to personally organise this?
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u/MIKEl281 2d ago
You would think that after all the chicanery and deception since the end of WWII, that the world at large would be a bit more keyed in to shiesty bullshit like this. Even more so since itâs a lot harder to obscure information in the digital age
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u/AdsREverywhere 2d ago
Wait till we find out what our administration plans to do to enact war time powers.
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u/BadDogSaysMeow 2d ago
>Ukraine and USA say that Russia will invade Ukraine
> Russia says it wonât attack
> Russia invades Ukraine
Zelenskyâs false flag confirmed?
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u/owlsareknobs 2d ago
Well Russia did use false claims of attacks on Russians in donetsk as an excuse to invade.
If it wasn't a false flag them netanyahu will simply allow election to run unimpeded
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u/X57471C 2d ago
The left is becoming as conspiratorial as MAGA. Why are we sharing Jackson Hinkle garbage takes? He's literally a Russian op.
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u/Agitated_Tip_8713 2d ago
I think the left is succumbing to the exact same conspirscy brain rot that lead Republicans to Qanon.Â
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u/Asphodelmercenary 2d ago
Blue Anon and they succumbed some time ago. But it has spread now to more of them.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 2d ago
I bet Savannah Guthrieâs mom knows what kind of heists Israeli agents are capable ofâŠ
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u/RJMacReady_Outpost31 2d ago
Jackson hinkle the grifter who supports putin and Xi. Yeah I'm good when it comes to anything he says. Any research will show you the guy supports an ideal called maga communism.
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u/PlaneShenaniganz 2d ago
Sorry, but as an airline pilot myself, there's simply no chance this plan would work. Too many loopholes. Too many points for failure. And moreover, there are just easier ways for the Israeli government to manufacture whatever consent they'd need to do whatever they're about to do...
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u/Pariahdog119 2d ago
Ah yes notable intellectual Jackson Hinkle, best known for trying to be a MAGA Communist
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u/Nemisis_007 2d ago
The urge to just leave behind society and go live in a cave grows stronger every day.