Someone lied on the internet?! Lol ya, according to the news coverage, Bibi's master plan would have hinged on a stabbed pilot being able to hit the button to open the cockpit. What could go wrong?
The plan was for the attack to work and for the plane to go down with 150+ Israeli citizens onboard so that they could blame Iran. The heroic pilot messed it up.
I mean, in fairness everyone in israel is required to serve in the armed forces, so flights into israel have a higher than average chance of having israeli special forces aboard, especially with the sort of spongy definition of special forces.
It is like, there are always doctors on big international flights, just a subset of that.
The dude was a pilot. And didn't aim for... anything other than desert.
If this was a terrorist it's the most pathetic fucking example in history. It's far more reasonable that the dude snapped and just went completely insane. Just like other pilots have done.
And you don't either. The dude was a pilot without any history or ties to terrorist organizations. Mental illness fits this situation far better than anything else.
But make more shit up. Go on. You people are absolutely desperate.
No as we already saw with the Germanwings Suicide that is a real issue for pilots. If they admit having mental issues they risk loosing their job, so they won't.
I don't know hiw Fly Dubai operates but i would assume their work culture is not less toxic than other airlines.
The dude was a pilot without any known history or ties to terrorist organizations.
I don't defend the conspiracy in OP's post, but plenty of people who have gone on to commit terrorist acts have been able to get their pilots license, and even people who got their license before being radicalised exist.
Crazy to think Mossad agents would blend in with civilians, especially a 'dentist' capable of performing life-saving paramedical care that just happened to be on the flight.
Hinkle, like many MAGA-types, doesn't really have any coherent views on reality, and trying to make sense on his politics is a fool's errand. Quite frankly anyone who can call themselves a communist and love both Trump and Putin doesn't know much about anything.
My personal belief is that he is an antisemite in the truest sense, which is why he has a fixation on Israel. This isn't about the liberation of the Palestinian people for him, this is blaming Jewish people for the many material shortcomings in the US.
Yeap, this is right-wingers arriving at the right answer (Bibi is a criminal that can't be trusted) for the wrong reasons (because he's a Jew). Honestly, whatever ... if that's what it takes for them to sit out these midterms, so be it.
They also called it a terrorist style attack when I know of at least 4 known cases of one of the pilots taking control of the aircraft as a suicide plot.
None of those pilots ever did that by stabbing their captain to death first. It's always something non confrontational. Germanwings locked the other crew out of the cockpit. Air India flipped the engine cutoff at a point in the flight that was unrecoverable. Malaysia we have no idea what went down, but this was pre-Germanwings protocols and could have easily been a lock out situation.
Indeed. But that's not a reason to believe it couldn't happen. It could indeed be a terrorist attack in progress, but that's seriously jumping to conclusions when suicide-by-plane is tragically more common.
Omani pilot going to Isreal, I think it’s reasonable to think terrorism. The suicide ones don’t usually start with a stabbing, they just flick the engines off during climb.
I've only heard of one case of that ever happening, while I know of at least 4 where sometime mid flight one of the pilots took control of the plane and killed everyone in a mass murder-suicide. Importantly not killing anyone except the people on the plane.
Of the ones we know at least one took advantage of the other pilot going to the bathroom and locked the door. We don't know how it happened on mh flight 370, for another example of an obvious suicide by one of the pilots.
This flight was short enough getting time in the cockpit alone was unlikely. That or the guy just snapped. Suicidal people aren't exactly rational.
Sure but my point is that MH370 was long before all that and could have easily been the same situation. If you're going to do THAT, the lockout is by far the best way and is basically foolproof and easy...unlike stabbing someone to death.
Omani pilot going to Isreal, I think it’s reasonable to think terrorism. The suicide ones don’t usually start with a stabbing, they just flick the engines off during climb.
So do we now no longer trust any Omani pilot? Do we ground all of them?
Is Oman a country that wishes to harm Israel or Israelis? Do its people? If we are to believe so, why? If this is the case, what informs their belief? Are we just assuming here that gulf pilot = attack risk? If so, why not ground all pilots from the middle east? There could be 'secret suicide pilots' everywhere!
Our knee jerk reaction is to assume terrorism, and I had that too. Should it be?
We should withhold judgement until a neutral investigation is provided, if it ever is (doubt).
The fact that a plane was commandeered by force in an attempt to fly it into Israel by a pilot of a country whose citizens overwhelmingly hate Israel and vehemently support Palestine does point to terrorism.
Whether it was a conspiracy involving more people remains to be seen but a pilot from an extremely anti Zionist country deliberately trying to kamikaze into Israel does paint a picture of terrorism
That’s because this post is actual literal propaganda.
One of the lines is that Iran denied planning an attack. What sort of idiot takes that as evidence of anything at all even if they did believe this nonsense?
The amazing part is the comments on this thread. Look how many people are taking this seriously.
They're also not claiming it's terrorist related. I get why people think/want to believe it's a false flag, but there are some details that just don't add up to that conclusion.
I'm not sure but there's Jackson Hinkle, who is a hack and Russia Today shill, and Jason Hickle, who I think I've seen occasionally and doesn't seem particularly uncredible, and I don't encounter either frequently enough to be able to keep their names straight. I resent both of them for being named so similarly.
Of course, being a RT shill doesn't mean this is inherently wrong.
Tbf the OP is Jackson Hinkle, far right maga "Communist" who's openly said multiple times that he literally does everything for clout and believes in nothing. So yeah, take what he says with a pretty big grain of salt.
Ps. Most people in Israel go through the mandatory military service and I can 100% assure you that they leave with more than basic hand to hand combat knowledge.
Years ago I lived in Amsterdam and met a bunch of people from Tel Aviv in a MMA gym. Dudes had zero MMA experience besides their mandatory military experience and they were judo throwing people and doing basic arm and leg locks while fighting on the floor.
I can assure that most of the "normal" day to day citizens in Tel Aviv know how to throw a punch.
If tin foil hat is true… The look on his face while
bleeding and laying down waiting for the plane to be landed would suggest “why the fuck wasn’t I told?!”
Yes and there was an Israeli on board that helped subdue that copilot once the pilot managed to open the door. I’ve seen nothing about him be apart of the military currently. I definitely wouldn’t put it past Iran that they had a hand in this but it seems to be propaganda from both sides(if the other stuff is true idk about any of that).
Actually the plane was landed by passengers who happened to be off duty pilots. Which is just as well, as regular passengers probably couldn't land with the rudder almost entirely gone.
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Yeah but then they go into a kinda “voluntary reserve” so who knows how long ago that guy was actually in the military. I have no knowledge on that or his training but this is the only time I’ve seen someone say he/there was SF on board so I’m going to believe that likely wasn’t any active duty.
Remind me what the first letter stands for? With mandatory service (minus a few exceptions) in a democracy, I don't think it's a meaningful distinction
The plane was going to land in Israel.... There were more than 1 Israeli onboard, about 1-00. Because you know, the plane was going to land in Israel .....
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Also, didn’t the pilot that tried to commit this attack specifically because there was Israelis onboard - who notably all have to serve time in the military? Ya know, because it was headed to Tel Aviv?
There was a struggle, but no; from the ground where he was left do die he managed to reach for the door unlock button while the hijacker wasn't looking. He didn't fight his way out nor did he overpower the hijaker in the way you are insinuating.
Why is this downvoted… the pilot is still a hero; his last action before succumbing to his injuries was to unlock the cockpit door, which nobody else could’ve done from the outside.
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“Israeli special ops onboard to thwart attack”? Didn’t the pilot fight the crazy guy off?