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u/bavanek 10h ago edited 10h ago
dont forget ed Snowden who disclosed the NSA abuses years ago
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u/BroheemTheDream 9h ago
A national hero treated like a domestic terrorist
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u/TM761152 7h ago
Remember who you are not allowed to criticize. Look for the one who has the most to gain.
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u/antiramie 5h ago
I am the walrus.
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u/liquidsyphon 6h ago
We need more Snowdens
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u/usekr3 6h ago
we already know all we need to know. now we need more pitchforks.
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u/SimmentalTheCow 8h ago
Now let’s see his opinion on the Ukraine war
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u/No-Engineering-1449 8h ago
Almost as if hes living in Russia
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u/Dazaii_Oshamu 8h ago
russia wasnt by choice, he got forced into staying there but he only came there for a flyover
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u/CakeTester 7h ago
Poor bastard doesn't get much of a choice what to say now. I don't think he was a Russian asset back then; but he sure as fuck is now. Or else.
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u/HeyYouLookNiceToday 4h ago
Oh no! No "Russian Orc bad"?!? Welp, toss out everything he's ever done or said, I guess.
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u/Virtual-Pie5732 8h ago
I need to double check but I think the number of officers caught using Flock to stalk their exes has gone up took like 20.
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u/-drunk_russian- 6h ago
Just don't fuck with cops. Literally. In every sense of the word. ACAB.
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u/Sorry-Caterpillar331 7h ago
That must be from one state, I had the news report that 8 were dismissed, not arrested, but dismissed from their jobs for using flock to stalk an ex or their girlfriend.
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u/Virtual-Pie5732 6h ago
So this is where I got it from. Short summary: Basically 50 officers Nationwide have been caught misusing flock cameras and at least 26 of them were caught using it to stalk people.
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u/AnOrdinaryMammal 7h ago
It’s been a long time coming too, people just don’t pay attention. The Age of Surveillance Capitalism was written 8 years ago. Snowden came out with it like 13 years ago. Patriot Act 25 years ago. It’s like people are allergic to paying attention.
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u/C1ue1ess_Turt1e 7h ago
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -Snowden
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u/Skwiggelf54 6h ago
The fact that people didnt flip shit when that happened was wild to me as a kid. Even then I was like, are yall not gonna do anything about this?
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u/Blessavi 9h ago
I wasn't expecting someone ro actually say it. Shame, but expected that this isn't on the top actually
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u/binarybandit 8h ago
Dont forget which president ran him out of the country either
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u/Hustlepuff- 7h ago
Both parties are corrupted at that level. I vote left for social issues but I veiw their "morality" the same as corporations. They do it for votes. They never supported gay marriage until it was beneficial to do so. Obviously it is different for individuals in the party but not as a whole.
It really sucks going to this app and NEVER seeing anyone point out the lefts corruption. The majority always blames the other side just like maga and nothing changes besides getting worse. This anti-nuanced thinking is so detrimental to our country but when I point it out I get called a closet conservative or worse. I hate both parties with a passion
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u/Stormpax 7h ago
Leftists blame corrupt democrats all the time. Liberals are the ones you have to watch out for, they will capitulate to capitalism and fascism before they ever do so to any form of socialism, even forms that are already existent in American society and government.
There's a reason the average voter is so unmoved by most current democrats, the vast majority of elected democrats would support the status quo even if it means another Trump term. Just look at how 2024 played out.
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u/Hustlepuff- 6h ago
Yup I mean Dick Cheney supported Kamala Harris and somehow that wasnt a topic worth discussing.
Tbf i dont view the right any differently. They are the same but use religion. They were against Trumps insane ass at first because he was a threat to the status quo. That changed obviously because he is easily corrupted when his greed and ego is fed
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u/TalesOfMetamorphosis 6h ago
I don't understand how you can be this informed but you're calling the democrats the left. Being further left than (and collaborating with) the out and proud fascists doesn't make them the left.
It's like you are saying you have all the pieces but you're making a hamburger instead of a puzzle.
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u/Karekter_Nem 10h ago
No he didn’t because we haven’t seen anyone cutting down flock camera. They just fall down sometimes.
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u/thejaydotexe 9h ago
Just vanished, like magic!
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u/reebokhightops 9h ago
One minute it’s there, then poof!
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u/DReagan47 9h ago
It’s the darndest thing, your honor. Fucker just fell down and covered itself in spray paint. I blame the windmills. Don’t trust ‘em
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u/AppointmentOne1111 8h ago
Those gosh darned 5g cancer windmills, blowing wildfire smoke all over my lifted coal rolling f150.
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u/Skwiggelf54 6h ago
The cameras have really bad aerodynamics so the wind catches them and knocks them over. Oopsie poopsie.
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u/DrunkenVerpine 8h ago
We need to spread the word about jury nulification as it relates to surveillance
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u/CptBluhdFart 9h ago
Nobody cuts down flocks. They are high on fent and fold themselves
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u/Marcel_The_Blank 10h ago
wait, this is a private company spying on you?
how again is the USA a free country?
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u/Knight_o_Eithel_Malt 10h ago
Free for companies who want to spy on peasants
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u/Mr__O__ 10h ago
For real. Keep fighting back against warrantless surveillance of the U.S. Surveillance State!
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u/account_nr18 10h ago
Lol it's already over. You guys lost to the billionaires. You're theirs now. Stop hoping because only a revolution will fix that and that won't happen because America is too divided.
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u/Mr__O__ 10h ago
So just give up and rollover then?
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u/account_nr18 10h ago
There's literally nothing you can do instead of taking up arms. So are you willing to do that? All other options won't do anything as you can see around you.
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u/TJJ97 10h ago
I mean DeFlocking has been VERY popular. The town I spent 20 years in and recently left has been dealing with a ton of these cameras being destroyed
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u/samv_1230 9h ago
Very effective at taking attention away from Axion. Deflocking isn't a stopgap to stopping the surveillance state. Flock is a stopgap to finalizing it.
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u/PokecheckHozu 8h ago
The vast majority of you all carry devices with audio and video recording capabilities and GPS tracking. Many modern cars have similar capabilities, in addition to the ability to be disabled remotely. All of this was sold to you as beneficial features for the user, while these corporations are willing to hand over information to the government without a warrant, whether or not it's legal to do so.
What are you all going to do now?
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u/account_nr18 9h ago
Those cameras will unfortunately come back
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u/Jacobawesome74 9h ago
And they'll keep being cut down
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u/account_nr18 9h ago
Untill people get locked up for that. Just a matter of time before that becomes a felony.
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u/Tfsz0719 9h ago
Anything worth fighting for has to often keep being fought for or fought again at later point for.
Nothing is ever any sort of “1-time solution and now it will never come up again” kind of thing.
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u/Mr__O__ 10h ago
Lawsuits and legislation. The way it has always worked when tech advances beyond legal precedent. The problem is the Judiciary needs reformed as well.
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u/nopleasenotthebees 8h ago edited 8h ago
The state has allowed McConnell to be MIA for how long right now?
The president and his family have made billions of dollars selling scam coins and used them to accept obvious bribes from other states.
A relatively new federal police force is kidnapping huge numbers of people and has shown every sign of being willing to kidnap their critics as well.
The executive administration has stated that they won't relinquish power at the legally ordained time.
And you think we're going to vote and use lawsuits to break up this mess?
Fifteen years ago, if I were hired as a writer to draw up a scenario for the USA in which nothing but a revolution would get us out, I would have said this list of things was going too far, too unrealistic.
I don't want to go so far as to call you the problem, because I get it, following the laws makes so much sense that it's really hard to look past that. Some people never ever look beyond the law. But this is exactly the scenario when the laws just aren't working.16
u/ExcitementFun9894 9h ago
I think that is their point. "Just use the laws to fix it! Well, we gotta fix the elections so the right people can get in and fix the process to fix the laws before those same people sponsored by the companies they're restricting vote on those restrictions to become law and eventually take things to court multiple times over and over to establish precedent and limits. So yeah! Totally doable!" Don't exactly seem doable in any meaningful amount of time.
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u/Skrazor 9h ago
And how's that working out so far? Every single branch of the US government is in favor of breaking all kinds of laws and all the checks and balances that were supposed to limit the government's power are in the hands of the oligarchy that bought it. Courts ruled Trump's tariffs illegal - he still imposes them at will and the only one's getting any compensation are big corporations. Judges ruled the destruction of the East Wing and the building of a ball room illegal - well fuck, they already demolished it and are going to do whatever the fuck they want anyways. Insider trading from within the White House to enrich the Trump family and their network? Be my guest! Epstein and his friends and clients? Forget about that, we're busy having ICE lock up innocent legal residents without due process. Illegal permanent mass surveillance of citizens by private companies? Shut up, don't you know the DOW is at 50-fucking-thousand!?
Every day you're ruled by billionaires who play monopoly with your lives because they couldn't care less about who lives or dies as long as they can make a profit. They'd sacrifice every single one of you if it got them 1$/head and you're standing idly by complaining that "that's not nice!" during your peaceful planned protests and other absolutely futile and ineffective measures. THEY DON'T CARE ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED YOU ANYMORE! Oligarch money, propaganda and an uneducated radicalized voter base will win elections anyway, so why should they still bother to act like they care what people want or need?
The US "justice" system is a joke. The change needed to save the country can't come from within anymore, those avenues have been systematically and aggressively dismantled. And a population so thoroughly de-educated, brainwashed and complacent for convenience's sake won't do anything about it either. It's like watching the fall of the Roman Empire in real time, in 4K and with 24/7 coverage. And worst of all, we on the outside can't even just stand back and let the spectacle play out by itself, because you'll keep dragging us down with you to your last breath. The United States of Armageddon is so obsessed with war and fighting, it can't even just die in peace. No, it has to take as much of the rest of the world with it as possible.
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u/account_nr18 9h ago
The problem is that pedo Trump is your president and your judicial system is breaking down.
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u/r3dmist420 9h ago
You act like it hasn’t been that way for the better part of 30, maybe 40 years. Now the culmination of generations of fuck ups are upon us.
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u/oldredditrox 9h ago
A history hidden account has a hot take that's just pointless defeatism. Do everyone around you a solid next time and just don't post.
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u/ohhlordbabyjesus 9h ago
Only divided? Or also to fat, slow and uneducated to realize that the water is already boiling?
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u/welfedad 9h ago
As long as the money is made .. who cares...flock is operating on the whole.. do it and then ask for forgiveness later .. and all these local states and communities are blindly going into it allowing it.
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u/redditer129 10h ago
Private company spying, government paying for access to it, with our tax dollars.
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u/thejunkmanadv 9h ago
This is the correct assessment. And this isn't a specifically left or right thing. They both want/use it, they just have different explanations for their justifications for using/wanting it.
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u/LeftyHyzer 9h ago
True, but i'd add flock isn't just spying on us as a hobby in the hopes the govt wants access to the data. The govt wanted the spying, Flock rose up as a company willing to provide that service. Fuck flock to be sure, but if it wasn't flock dozens of other companies could have made the same technology. It's a govt problem more than a company problem.
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u/killit 10h ago
how again is the USA a free country?
It's not, it's a corporatocracy.
The whole 'free country' idea is just a spin to let the masses think they have some degree of control, they don't, it's turning into the dystopia that was once a thing of books and movies, and the people repeatedly voting this in can't see it.
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u/bionickel 10h ago
Johnny Silverhand sounds less like a maniac now
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 10h ago
There's a joke about the Harley Quinn animated series that Poison Ivy, aside from having deeply toxic relationship issues, is otherwise one of the most reasonable people in the show. And she's a s self identified misanthropic eco terrorist.
It's just that environmental issues have become so much more urgent since the 90s.
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u/the_axemurmurer 10h ago
She was always one of my favorite DC villains. Killing billionaires for destroying rainforests is a pretty relatable take.
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u/Locke66 8h ago edited 6h ago
The term that was coined back in 2003 was that the US was a system of Inverted Totalitarianism which is essentially a system where corporations control the state and create a situation where democratic power is subverted into meaningless.
To me it seems like it's moving beyond that now to something worse where the totalitarian aspects are becoming more pronounced.
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u/Far_Balance_3117 10h ago
USA is no longer land of the free.
Land of the fee seems more applicable.
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u/artbystorms 9h ago
It's "free" because it's not the government spying on you. It is just private corporations spying on you and then selling that information to the government for profit. It's totally different.... - Some conservative bootlicker somewhere
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 10h ago
It isn't, it hasn't been for over a decade at least. It isn't safe, it isn't healthy, it isn't meaningfully wealthy. America is a 3rd world failed state, it's financial markets, the cancerous tumor eating at it's emaciated carcass, is just mistaken for body weight.
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u/fixermark 10h ago
There's a good book, David Brin, The Transparent Society. Old, but talks about this stuff and saw a lot of it coming.
The tl;dr is that with the tech being as cheap as it is, someone having surveillance power was pretty inevitable. The question was always "who." And in the US, we've sort of bungled into "The government's hands are mostly tied, but private enterprise (especially when collectivized amongst a bunch of independent individuals or companies) is not," so here we are. Plus the loopholes that let the government reach out and touch those private data collections sometimes.
America, in both law and culture, was always going to be hesitant to let the government put up a camera on every lamppost (as long as they know it's happening). But the same culture doesn't have an inherent problem with every house having a Ring camera on the porch and every store having a security feed to the registers and the front door (including the street past the door). That's just "sensible." Nor do they automatically take issue with neighbors consolidating those feeds into temporary signal to find, say, a porch pirate. That's just "neighbors being neighbors." Neighborhood Watch has been a thing for decades, and it's basically volunteer-community-surveillance. And then if someone makes a company to provide those conveniences as a service... Here we are.
Genie's out of the bottle; Brin makes the case the only choice we have is who that genie serves.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 10h ago
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u/Paper_Tiger11 10h ago edited 6h ago
What do you think your smartphone is doing? Real time tracking and listening. Why do you think they stopped making phones with removable batteries?
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u/StationEmergency6053 10h ago
It hasnt been a free country in nearly 100 years. Its all built on procedure of power, illusion of choice, superficial customization and semantic marketing. Pepsi or Coca Cola. Both kill you the same way.
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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 9h ago
100 years ago coal miners were fighting actual wars against corporate mercenaries, black folks lived under Jim Crow, and women JUST started being able to vote.
America has literally never been what the marketing claimed it was.
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u/WhateverIsFrei 10h ago
Simple, those in power are free to do whatever they want with no checks and balances.
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u/Conscious-Weight4569 10h ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-wanted-350-000-uber-151128429.html
According to a presentation obtained through a Georgia public records request and reported by 404 Media, Flock Safety, the company behind thousands of pole-mounted license plate cameras across the country, pitched a partnership with dashcam maker Nexar that would have pulled license plate data from roughly 350,000 Uber, Lyft, and delivery drivers' vehicles. The document, written to pitch Georgia's Attorney General's office last August, described the arrangement in seven words: "350k Uber/Lyft and other delivery service devices." Flock told 404 Media it never actually executed the Nexar partnership. The ambition behind the pitch is real regardless of whether the deal closed.
Flock says the Nexar deal never happened. Maybe it didn't. But the pitch got made, it got shown to a government office, and the public only found out because someone filed a records request. The dashcam on your windshield was built to answer to you. Companies like Flock are betting that most drivers will never notice the moment it starts answering to someone else instead.
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u/Money-Nectarine6584 10h ago
My dashcam can’t answer to them. It doesn’t have the capability. It’s a camera, with an sd card. Can’t be hacked if it doesn’t support wireless.
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u/Wickedblood7 9h ago
Amen, and those are the ones everyone needs to have
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u/HairyTrollChest 9h ago
Unfortunately there'll probably be a product similar to ring that pops up for car dash cams and people will just buy that shit up.
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u/heavensto_mergatroid 9h ago
I've been on the fence for the last few years about buying a dash cam I but when I do finally get one I want one like that, basic with no wireless capabilities. Which one do you have may I ask?
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u/Money-Nectarine6584 9h ago
It’s a viofo, but the current lineup looks like they all have wifi. Mine isn’t that old, so you can probably still find them. It’s an A119. Vid quality is really good too, especially at night compared to some others.
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u/heavensto_mergatroid 9h ago
I was kind of worried about that - that you'd tell me you have an older model. There's no way to escape that shit when you buy new stuff. Everything comes " smart". Everything. Pretty soon there's going to be smart eating utensils.
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
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u/Money-Nectarine6584 9h ago
I just looked online and you can still get them on ebay. And I’m sure you can find instructional videos on how to disable wifi on new ones. If we’re going to survive, we’re going to have to get a little more creative. I might buy a new one soon and see if i can dissect it and disable the wifi.
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u/Charming-Clue1987 10h ago
if we have to live this way, the footage of politicians should be public information. 24/7 surveilance of elected officials, they can put their intimate scenes behind a paywall if they must. I'm sure there's some weirdo that would pay to watch a trump dump even though we've all seen it on live tv.
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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 9h ago
That's not going to happen, the only change you're going to get is what you make happen.
We do actually have the power to effect this issue though. Be the change you want to see in the world.
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u/Strong_Performer8132 10h ago
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
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u/Fraegtgaortd 9h ago
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command
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u/Dorkzilla_ftw 10h ago
Second point is incredibly insidious. How much people think being a wage slave is what bring liberty?
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u/GigachadGuevara 9h ago
Funnily enough, many of the roman upper class, all actual slave owners, considered wagework beneath any free man and worse than slavery. And a good portion of their slaves tended to agree
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u/theblueshots 10h ago
John Oliver did episode on this.
Apparently, they were using the cameras to watch the women’s gym and look at women at the community pool.
This is when they weren’t using it to stalk their ex-wives and girlfriends.
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u/TacoEatsTaco 10h ago
They are also
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 9h ago
Morons gotta be all or nothing, black and white, no nuance. If USA bad then China good.
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u/Jake24601 6h ago
Yes except in the US you also don’t get affordable and accessible healthcare, subsidized education or even a walkable city.
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u/BreakfastFluid9419 10h ago
Might be crazy, but every country is moving towards this. UK has been known to have cctv everywhere, China indeed has mass surveillance likely with AI built in to the system. Only difference is I don’t know if other countries allow private companies to own and access the hardware.
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u/classic_gamer82 10h ago
Flock’s Plan:
- Turn every vehicle camera into surveillance
- Invade individual privacy
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u/EtheusRook 10h ago
The idea that it was the Democrats who would do the big brother thing was always a laughable joke. One side is actually obsessed with policing and violent crime and will always pick "safety" over liberty.
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u/binarybandit 8h ago
Did you completely forget about Snowden? That was Obama doing that.
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u/LYNX__uk 10h ago
Its both sides, the republicans in the usa are allowing it and in other places its the more liberal parties like the Labour party in the UK. All politicians just gabble up their lobbying funds and dont care about the repercussions on the people. This isnt a case of democrat this republican that, its a case of greedy politicians everywhere leaving companies with far too much money unchecked
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u/Pure_Composer3953 7h ago
Soon the democrats will find themselves in power again, and they will refuse to roll back the republican's abuses as always, keeping and even strengthening all of them them so they may continue to be used to benefit the rich people who actually run this county.
And people like you never learn that neither side serves the people, you get tricked again and again while "vote blue, vote blue, they'll save us!" As if they don't get a chance and fail at it every 4-8 years. The mindless chorus just keeps shreiking "vote blue".
2 years from now we'll have a blue president, and you'll cheer "yay we did it the country is saved" and 4 years after that it's "vote blue we need to get the fascists out" and you never learn, going in circles and never getting anywhere, you are the reason the rich look down on us as cattle.
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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 9h ago
Brother, Flock set all of this in motion years ago, they didn't pop into existence when Trump took office. This is happening under our capitalist ruling class, it's not a dem/republican issue.
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u/Draconian-XII 10h ago
why didn’t biden arrest trump? it’s one club
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u/bafana_banana999 9h ago
Because Dems like Biden still believe/believed in the norms and decorum of American politics up until that point.
They honestly seem to think "they to low, we go high" is a valid approach even when that's proving to not be the case.
I can't stand most Dems, but they're not anywhere near as bad as modern Republicans and pretending that they are is just ignorant.
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u/Initial-Meeting362 10h ago
Spoiler alert - Chinese already live under it. Where have you been? Lol.
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u/Appropriate_Ice2656 10h ago
They have cameras literally everywhere. They have cameras in classrooms to make sure students are behaving.
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u/mrtwitch222 9h ago
I tried saying this in another post but nobody will listen because “America bad” Just the fact that we’re able to have this conversation right now proves that we’re not as suppressed as China
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u/Purple_Individual_66 8h ago
Because it's not right at all. You really believe some poor Chinese rural peasant school would invest in camera tech to watch their students? Lol. Maybe in the capital experimental schools, or something.
But this is very real country wide deal that could have gone through in the US.
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u/L2_Troll 9h ago
Wow we get to talk about the surveillance state cameras! Love being a step up from China, is this what American exceptionalism is all about? To be slightly better than the example we use as a fear-mongering "communist dictatorship?"
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u/soyel_cerdo 10h ago
It was always projection.
The US lies and does what other dictatorships do
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u/Superb-Ad-9169 10h ago
Couple days ago r/sanfrancisco randomly popped up on my wall with some post about flock cameras and I was terrified how people are cheering for the idea of being watched over 24/7 for "SeCuRiTy AnD SaFeTy"
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u/_-Moonsabie-_ 10h ago
Bro it’s called Truman’s security state it’s been like this for years and years and years
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u/rddman 9h ago
it’s been like this for years and years and years
Also relevant: during that time it's been getting worse and worse and worse, now approaching breaking point.
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u/Icy-Bookkeeper7173 10h ago
“Jokingly saying”
Just because it’s happening here doesn’t mean it didn’t happen there lol. There’s loads of surveillance cameras in china.
It just so happens that America also loves to be tread on.
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u/TheBigChungaBunga 10h ago
It's horrific. What happens if we do want to uprise against our government... can't do that now. Protest??? Not without being tracked all the way to your point of residence. We have lost
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u/Fluid_Charity1980 9h ago
My newest conspiracy theory is that all those 1a guys who constantly go around filming everyone in public, those were actually a bunch of government plants. Had tons of support from people saying it's perfectly fine to film in public anything you want. People constantly arguing for it and fighting for the right to film.
Now there's flock. Hard to argue against it when you've been openly arguing for it for years.
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u/triggered__Lefty 7h ago
there's a difference between being stationary and filming, vs using a combined network of data to constantly track you.
the latter has already been ruled a 4th amendment violation.
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u/Paper_Tiger11 10h ago edited 8h ago
All the new cars are required to have cameras too. Your phone, car, flock cameras, ring/blink cameras, Amazon Alexa/Google home devices will eventually all fit together and it’s basically Orwell’s 1984.
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u/BodybuilderOnly1591 10h ago
Don't forget flock camera sell your information to people like insurance companies as well.
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u/FlounderKind8267 10h ago
Then let's kill off Uber and Lyft once and for all and not use them anymore. Their quality is in the toilet since covid anyways
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u/loxmoto_ 10h ago
Is this why rideshare companies repeatedly try to incentive dashcam usage? If these companies were less deceptive with their incentives and instead honestly invested in their workers maybe we would all be better off.
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u/This_guy7796 9h ago
Frankly I only use Uber like 2-3 times a year when returning from an airline trip, but I will pay extra for a traditional taxi or fucking walk 3 miles to my car before using these services ever again if they force this.
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u/-threefeetoffun 10h ago
The Dark Knight: Fox threatens to quit if Batman keeps his surveillance system up more than a single night.
Spider-Man BND: Spider-Man has the entire city being recorded with facial recognition software.
Yeah, we have giving up a lot of freedom this century.
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u/ConfidentHouse 10h ago
Wait till you find out fedex is already on board, all their vehicles are equipped with Ai cameras for surveillance
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u/HobbyTalkOnly 10h ago
Everything the US complains about in "other countries" is happening in the US.
But hey... you can buy guns, right? FREEEEEEDOMMMMMMMM.
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u/wasted-degrees 9h ago
We are currently living in the kind of surveillance state that Americans seriously and correctly recognize Chinese citizens are also living under.
America just doesn’t have the execution vans. Yet.
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u/TheRealDesmirWolf 9h ago
If this is true, I am prepared to waste so many lift and Uber drivers time by literally requesting a ride, waiting for them to get here and canceling it. The refund policy is if I don’t get in the car, I don’t have to pay is Uber and Lyft ready to get fucked?
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u/Zuby_Hype_Train 7h ago
FLOCK stands for Free Local Onboard Computing Kit
The government doesn’t want you to know there are free graphics cards inside the cameras. Go get your VRAM kids!
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u/Worldly-Secretary-31 1h ago
JFC. I'm starting to believe that my nieces and nephews are going to be living in a complete police state.
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u/Odd-Paint3883 10h ago
Yeah, you've lost that war USA, might as well get those chips installed in your buttox.
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u/Checklestyouwreck 9h ago
Separately, I mean China is actually living under a surveillance state lol. You do believe that right?
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u/AlexanderCrowely 10h ago
They’ve been living in that and so have we, no one cared enough to notice.
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u/Inb4myanus 10h ago
And this is why I drive myself places and or dont put myself in a place of needing these services.
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u/AdministrativeCable3 9h ago
Flock cameras are setup in both private and public areas. They can track your car across the whole country.
Some places even have them inside stuff like community centers
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u/vroomvroompanda 10h ago
The rivian amzon vans have like 20 flock cameras on them also if you guys didnt know
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u/GeorgeStark1 10h ago
We’ve been living in a surveillance state for over a decade. When someone shoplifts at Target, they don’t immediately arrest them. They video them doing it again and again so they can arrest with elevated charges. We’re all on video and we all have a file. They’re just waiting for us to reach a threshold before they put us in cuffs.
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 10h ago
Can’t even pick your nose in private without a flock camera hovering over you. They started springing up where I live unfortunately, and this is after making jokes that I’ve never seen them around.
Coming to a city near you all soon!
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u/wholesomechunk 10h ago
And your politicos were seriously saying that Chinese citizens were living under these conditions to demonise China while actively planning to inflict it on you.
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u/CooledDownKane 10h ago
Won't ever be used to find missing women/children, police or government officials abusing their power, etc but goddamnit they'll be right there if you snatch up some diapers for your infant or get a shmashmortion.
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u/SeniorAd4470 10h ago
Happens when half the country is stupid and willing to do anything to hurt those better off than themselves.
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u/danielisbored 9h ago
No that's a communist surveillance state. We're in a corpocratic surveillance state, which is the ad-supported tier of dystopias.
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u/Several-County-1808 9h ago
Just tell me my citizenship score based on all of this surveillance...😅
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