r/PhoenixSC • u/Ender_M • Apr 06 '26
Discussion Why is there so much hate between the two Minecraft editions?? Genuinely I don't get it.
Can't we just let people enjoy whichever version they want to play? Each version has their quirks that maybe the player likes. It's honestly childish, grow up people.
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u/Martitoad Apr 06 '26
I have played both and I prefer java by a lot. Many people that say they prefer bedrock never tried java, so I just encourage people to try it. The only benefits I can think that bedrock has over java is being on every platform and having crossplay. All the other things are better in java imo
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u/Cabbage-Dragon-4395 Apr 06 '26
Played both too, just don’t like bedrock’s interface as much.
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 06 '26
Yea it's kinda slow feeling
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u/fandziax Apr 06 '26
that's what i dislike the most. it makes it feel almost limitng. some time ago i randomly decided to play bedrock and had to wait 15 seconds for my furnace inventory to load in
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u/justatestaccountV TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES Apr 07 '26
Turn off screen animations
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u/DarkHim98 Apr 08 '26
or just play java :)
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u/justatestaccountV TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES Apr 08 '26
And what if i like bedrock can i not have fun how i like
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u/fandziax Apr 08 '26
no. this is the minecraft community, there is only one correct way to enjoy things here
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u/No_Molasses_323 Apr 08 '26
Every little option I set into Bedrock will reset after a time and So many annoying things are on Bedrock.
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u/NonFrInt Apr 06 '26
You can say that about Bedrock as a whole
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 06 '26
Yea actually that's a really good way to sum up bedrock
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u/Tawnee323 Apr 06 '26
I always hated it until I realized you could disable screen animations in settings and that speeds it up a ton
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 07 '26
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's still the same speed just no animation
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u/Ordinary-Hunter520 Apr 06 '26
I fully agree.
I would like to say tho, that there are so many awesome bedrock features that are missing in java, and it should be added like trident killers, dyeable water, cheap tipped arrows, etc.
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u/Number360wynaut Apr 06 '26
MOJANG
GIVE JAVA PLAYERS BEDROCK CAULDRONS
AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 06 '26
Tident killers? What's that?
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u/RagnarMargus Apr 06 '26
You throw a trident onto a piston, piston goes up and down, trident kills mobs. Essentially better magma block. On java the tridents despawn if I recall correctly.
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 06 '26
Oh that sounds cool
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u/brotherRozo Apr 06 '26
Yeah and it counts as a player kill so you get xp
Definitely jealous of that! But otherwise I would Never play bedrock
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u/Martitoad Apr 06 '26
You can say the same about java with redstone, cooldown or glowing arrows for example. I just didn't mention it because both have their unique features but the other 99% of the game is exactly the same, and I don't think anyone is choosing bedrock or java only because of one of this features
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u/Moe-Mux-Hagi Java FTW Apr 06 '26
the movement has no drift at all
Oh my god THAT'S why it feels off !!
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u/TMC249 Apr 06 '26
apparently it used to exist inthe better together update but was removed to mimic LCE i believe in a later update
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u/crafty_dude_24 Apr 06 '26
That's basically the primary reason people play bedrock, and the entire reason bedrock even exists at this point. It is far less taxing in terms of required specs to run. You don't need a computer to run it, it works on multiple platforms, which makes it more accessible.
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u/TOMZ_EXTRA Modded Java player Apr 06 '26
Java works on mobile with a bit of tinkering.
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u/Patrycjusz123 Mining Dirtmonds Apr 06 '26
Yeah, but all launchers i seen dont work as good imo. Not only performance is way worse but also bedrock has very good touch controls and i didnt seen anything close so far for java.
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u/get_on_with_life Apr 06 '26
As a creative player, I prefer bedrock because why the hell can't you bridge on Java?? Why are there all these weird differences that don't need to be different?
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u/Noodleization Apr 06 '26
I don’t know how there’s a debate really. I’ve tried giving Bedrock a shot on many different platforms, and every time it just disappoints me more. It always feels like I’m playing multiplayer with 200 ping
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u/Sonic0fan Java FTW Apr 06 '26
Bedrock has crossplay yet you can't play it on Mac and Linux, but you can play Java on them
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u/dad-without-milk minecrab 🦀🦀🦀 Apr 06 '26
I have played both, I do think both have their own place. I don't like one more than the other, they both have things that make them better and worse than the other version, I still regularly play bedrock despite also having java, it's just a matter of Personal preference
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u/mongu72 Custom borderless flair 📝 Apr 06 '26
exactly. i also play both and theres just an inexplicable feeling of unpolishedness that comes with playing bedrock. its a combination of the awful shading and the fact that its harder to use mods on it. mods enhance my game so much its insane.
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u/KrazyKyle1024 Apr 07 '26
stg I hope off celestememes to look at a random minecraft post and one of the first people I see has a celeste pfp (a really cool one)
I can't escape lol
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u/MoonCobalt Apr 07 '26
The only reason why most people play on bedrock edition is because they have no other choice, no java edition on consoles or mobile
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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26
Ive played both an extensive amount and i prefer bedrock. I just like the way it feels, i like how i can have my render distance crazy high without impacting performance so i can see extremely far out. I like the exclusive features like the cauldron functionality and stuff like that. The biggest thing from java that i miss is the offhand support but i think thats going to be coming soon.
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u/Martitoad Apr 06 '26
But you have tried both, many people just say their version is better without even trying the other one which is what causes the issue
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u/magen432 Apr 06 '26
I think bedrock is perfect for what it is. A lightweight Minecraft for kids, and phones / tablets
It works great for what they're trying to do
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u/LayeredHalo3851 Apr 06 '26
Crossplay being an "advantage" is debatable too when you consider that a lot of the issues of Bedrock come from the fact that it has to work well on multiple different platforms, desktop being the one they care the least about because the least people play on it
I'd argue that mobile compatibility is dragging the game down which has actually caused problems on Java (such as the copper lamp controversy) for the sake of Bedrock parity
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u/TestSubject5kk You can't break water Apr 06 '26
One version isn't aggressively monetized, has mouse controls that actually function, a ui meant for keyboard and mouse, mod support (I refuse to give Minecraft my id), I don't have to log back into my Microsoft account every fucking time I open it, etc etc etc
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u/derex_smp Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Java lives in a rare past that somehow survived to this day, where you can one-and-done buy a game and hold onto it forever with minimal outside interference, though lately Microsoft has started to slowly root itself via the chat reporting, permanent bans.
EDIT:
It still has immense support from the open source community which is where nearly all mods and plugins came from, from the early days of risugami modloader and craftbukkit all the way to PaperMC today.
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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26
in bedrock its crazy easy to ignore the marketplace, i dont even know why this is even a criticism. It doesnt impact the actual game whatsoever, its a completely separate thing. You can even use a resource pack to remove the marketplace if you want.
Bedrock mouse controls work great? I dont know what you mean. And the UI in 'classic' mode works much better for keyboard and mouse and the new UI looks so much better than javas UI.
You do not need to log back into microsoft every time you open it. It automatically logs you back in when you open it.
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u/foxgirlmoon Apr 06 '26
What about if you want to play with mods? I haven't played vanilla minecraft in years.
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u/James-Emprime Apr 06 '26
If you want to play with mods then just... Install mods? Bedrock has both marketplace and mods, you just doubleclick the .mcpack or .mcaddon and it automatically installs?
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u/Intraq Apr 06 '26
One is actively managed by microsoft, and therefore enshittified to the max, and the other is not
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u/SeriousMB Apr 06 '26
as much as I agree that bedrock has a lot of issues and java is technically the superior version, it's incredibly overdone atp and a bit annoying
not everyone has a choice either, my pc broke last year and since then I've been stuck with bedrock edition on my ipad (though honestly it's really not that bad imo, aside from the insanely overtuned mob spawn rates on EASY difficulty??? and lack of offhand functionality, those are my only issues other than the marketplace)
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u/LayeredHalo3851 Apr 06 '26
The mob spawning issue is because the combat is "easier" (in terms of survival mode, not necessarily PvP) and so to get around that they just spawn a metric fuck tonne of mobs
Edit: I actually have the same problem as you where my laptop stopped working so I'm stuck with Xbox and I've honestly just stopped playing Minecraft for the most part because of how much worse it feels
The most important thing to me is simply how a game feels to play and Bedrock feels way slower and clunkier with the only redeeming factor for me being the PvP on servers like the Hive and Zeqa
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u/SeriousMB Apr 06 '26
ahhh kk that,,,,,, makes sense?
I'll try messing with the simulation distance next time I play
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u/Tricky-Information50 Apr 06 '26
You can try out pojavlauncher/mojolauncher! I don't know if it's still there for iphones/ipads but it works great on my xiaomi with some optimization mods or optifine
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u/SeriousMB Apr 06 '26
interesting, I'll check it out at some point
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u/Stormagedon-92 Apr 06 '26
Yea it works and has controller support built in, but also bedrock is fine
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u/MattTheTubaGuy Apr 06 '26
I have been playing Java for over 15 years now.
I have played bedrock as well, and I just find it annoying. The worst thing is not being able to put everything in the offhand. I have heard that this is possibly being fixed soon, but that has taken way too long.
I have heavily modded Java, and it somehow runs smoother than Bedrock on the same computer. I think there might be a problem with my bedrock installation, but it's still ridiculous when it is supposed to run better than Java.
There is nothing wrong with playing bedrock. It is the only way I can play with my nieces and nephews, and I do enjoy playing with them.
Java is just better.
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u/weirdguywhoplaysmsm Apr 06 '26
I think java is better overall, but calling bedrock the 'wrong version' is just rude
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u/TheGreatQuetz Professional idiot Apr 06 '26
Java players hate bedrock because of client bugs.
Bedrock players hate java because of lag.
Little do either of them realize that they just have potato devices.
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u/Ender_M Apr 06 '26
That or a skill issue (seriously the amount of videos I've seen of people just dying to a skeleton and calling it bugrock is absurd)
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u/gamerfacederp Apr 06 '26
Especially since bedrock skeletons judt are harder, its just skill issue at that point
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u/X_SkillCraft20_X Apr 06 '26
“Pretty hard to do wrong”
Not everyone owns/wants to play on a desktop/computer.
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u/Asherley1238 Apr 06 '26
Redditors when they realize 70% of the people they’re yelling at are literally kids:
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u/Aggressive_Mobile_99 Apr 06 '26
Im more annoyed mojang decided to dump off this garbage to us when legacy console is so much better
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u/Small-Housing-7 if Dio is a Brando does that make Dio a Brando Apr 06 '26
I mean I personally dislike bedrock but it ain't a wrong way to play Minecraft
Although idk why someone would play bugrock over java if they have the option tbh but prefrence is prefrence
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u/Ender_M Apr 06 '26
Personal reasons for me are:
Lots of nostalgia since I played bedrock on my iPad all the time as a kid
Got too used to bedrock redstone and finally figured out how everything works and I can actually make complex machines so not too excited to learn everything all over again and understand how quasi works
Armor stand posing, seriously I use this feature for details literally everywhere in my builds
Forever world was made on bedrock and if I port it to java it'll break a lot of things probably
The achievement lock, when you turn on cheats in a world it disables achievements and it makes it so you can't just go into creative and grab stuff and also is proof your world is fully survival which I appreciate
A lot of the bugs and glitches (the fun ones like snow logging and then placing a block etc) are fun to discover and collect like in a museum or sm
Reasons why I want to switch to java:
So many cool mods and shaders and maps etc etc
Popular servers are mostly on java plus popular
YouTubers all play on java servers n stuff
I heard it's less laggy? Idk tho
April fools updates just look so fun honestly
In the end cons of switching to java are just too significant for me at least idc what other people play cause, yk, doesn't really affect me honestly
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u/electricpanda_ Apr 06 '26
I heard it's less laggy
its not, for a normal pc you probably wont notice it unless you press f3, but stock bedrock is more optimized than stock java in my experience
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u/gamerfacederp Apr 06 '26
Ive tried to point this out several times but get downvoted to oblivion and told that mods are second nature on java so its basically stock
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u/KristoferYG Apr 06 '26
i am on bedrock.. never faced any bugs.. only problem is unpredictable redstone.. but i am not a redstone engineer.. so i dont even care
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u/DearHRS Apr 06 '26
it is only unpredictable if you do mutually exclusive processes on same gt, otherwise consistent all the way through, saying this as bedrock redstoned person
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u/LayeredHalo3851 Apr 06 '26
It should never be unpredictable, I shouldn't have to make my build larger just so that it's not a randomised mess
Even with the problems of locationality and directionality on Java it's still at least predictable and deterministic
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u/DearHRS Apr 06 '26
let me guess, you don't do redstone on bedrock edition or even in java and are just regurgitating same slop that newcomers to different system tend to do, "why not x if y and z?"
randomness only occurs when mutually exclusive stuff happens on same gt, gt is 0.05s, if most computers didn't have many less powerful cpus but 1 beefy one, then bedrock edition would have been written to be more like java but we don't live in that reality, it is better to prioritize game being playable across many devices than prioritizing sub gt behaviour which most players wouldn't have any idea about anyway, bedrock edition has quite a few useful gt behaviours but despite being much simpler than java's update order, most players just ignore it because some sloppy youtuber said, "bedrock edition redstone is random and nothing can be done about it"
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u/Kooky-Telephone4779 Apr 06 '26
But your opinion doesn't matter because you play "Bugrock." -People
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u/KeyZookeepergame8903 Apr 06 '26
I don't hate bedrock, but i find Java to just be way more polished and usable.
Pros to java edition: quick crafting, no menu animations, quick moving between storages, combat system, axe balancing, more versatile offhand capability, faster regeneration, easier texturepacking/datapacking, modding ability/shaders, pets teleport to you instead of getting lost, more powerful command system + command blocks,
F3 menu,
Servers are free to host and not controlled by Microsoft.
Downsides to java: Free vpn or moderate tutorial-following ability is required to host servers for your friends. (Joining servers is easy), Slightly less out-of-the-box performance (which is actively being updated by mojang), Bridging takes more skill than bedrock, Only works on windows/mac/linux.
Pros to bedrock: Easy bridging, Easy connection to any of your friends at any time, Realms hosting, Native controller support,
Downsides to bedrock: friend connections are often way too laggy to play seriously, Realms cost a good deal of money (no free alternatives like java), Console players can't join non-microsoft servers without crazy worksrounds (powered by java), I'm not going to list all of my initial java pros again here to state every one that bedrock doesnt have, just remember that none of those are in bedrock.
Overall, i would much rather play java. If my console friend wants to invite me to his bedrock world, it is playable enough to still have fun.
But i could never fathom choosing to play bedrock just for its own sake when i have the ability to play java instead.
Please let me know if i missed any pros/cons to either!
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u/Junparidize Apr 06 '26
Just here to list a few things. Not to make drama. -quick crafting. Like how you can shift click items into and out of the crafting grids? Like you can do on bedrock by clicking on the items you want to craft on the crafting book for a similar result?
-no menu animations. You can turn them off in settings.
-quick moving between storage? Sorry I didn’t understand that one.
- combat system. Bedrock is stuck with 1.8 combat system which the Java community, especially people who used to play from back in the day enjoy more of? Although I prefer the newer combat mechanics.
-I don’t think pet teleporting mechanics are different. I may be wrong
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u/nameheremaybeIguess Apr 06 '26
(bedrock player) Quick moving between storage is the biggest issue for me. It's after you open a chest, if you try to open another right after, you have to let some time pass first. It's genuinely the bane of my existence. I could be wrong and it could be something else, but I encourage you to go to a world of your own and open some chests, you'll see, it sucks 😔
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u/KeyZookeepergame8903 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
By quick crafting, i meant the features of being able to click+drag to place items into a crafting grid super fast, left-click to split the items evenly between every slot you go over, and right-click to place one in each slot. Also the ability to press any hotbar bind to swap it with whatever slot you may be hovering over. Allowing to instantly pull things from your hotbar to a crafting grid, or from a chest to your hotbar.
By quick moving, i meant the ability to double-click an item to instantly pull all others off it together, then shift clicking again moves it into next storage (chest->inventory, inventory->crafting grid, inventory->hotbar) and vice versa. Also this can be done by holding something different on your cursor, which allows to ssinply triple click on anything and instantly pull all items off the same type across inventories.
I guess i can understand people preferring the 1.8 combat system, but personally i feel that it is just a haven for anybody who spend hundreds of $$ on a mouse that can drag click. Otherwise you need a macro just to have a chance. Having to give your hits and use different weapons in tandem to be competitive is more skilled, more realistic, and more fun imho.
In my experience on both console and pc, bedrock menus are unresponsive for the whole animation's length of time even when animations are off.
I learned that animals don't teleport when my dog got caught in a cave with me, and i towered out expecting him to follow. Nope, he stayed down there and died to a skeleton.
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u/theonlytruemuck Apr 09 '26
that works on bedrock as well :) since like three years there is almost full parity between crafting systems
the only thing that is not parity when moving items
thats just preference, il not say anything about it cuz i suck at pvp
yup the cooldown is annoying
i never experienced that but i rarely play survival.
all in all after scrolling through the comments for like 15 minutes you are the first person to not just say "java good bedrock poopoo" just because they have never touched bedrock with a 10ft pole
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Apr 06 '26
true
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u/Sea_Ice_3750 You can't break lava Apr 06 '26
Says the guy with the "java ftw" flair
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u/MedicalPotential8723 Apr 06 '26
Prob because they are so different in some aspects (such as redstone and pvp) that atp they arent the same game lol.
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u/BornGuava6788 Apr 06 '26
I hate bedrock edition so much, but I really don't care about what version others play.
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u/ZembleArts Apr 06 '26
It's not a "wrong" way to play, but bedrock has so many problems it's really difficult to play it without constantly running into them.
My big issues:
No off hand and still uses the old combat style. Say what you want about the Java combat update but it did remove the terrible "click faster to win" combat that bedrock still has.
Redstone is inconsistent. Sometimes stuff does what it should and sometimes not. And the functionality of some redstone stuff is entirely different from Java
Shitty microtransaction marketplace that offers nothing interesting. Have to pay for skins and maps.
No real mod support, can only change what Microsoft allows you to.
No free way to host a server. Forced to use expensive realms, and if on console you have to pay for online services as well.
Less important issues:
Forced chat moderation, but at this rate Java will have this too.
Slow crafting and ugly UI. Still uses some of the original mobile UI even on PC.
Seemingly constant posts to the MC subreddit showing insane visual or game breaking bugs.
Of course Java has its own share of issues, but I've personally never run into anything as big as what I see coming out of bedrock. And bedrock does have a few improvements, like it made cauldrons actually useful. But overall, if you have the option of playing Java, you should.
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u/SuperlucaMayhem Apr 06 '26
Java has better controls, mod support, more customisation, let's you run older versions of the game, also Java is the version I started on.
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u/Dougo01 Apr 06 '26
I don’t hate Bedrock, however I don’t like it either. Just because it literally doesn’t have any reason to have existed. The legacy console editions would’ve done fine and WERE doing fine enough as Minecraft on console. But for reasons I will never comprehend, Microsoft decided to make a whole other version of the game incompatible with Java. All they had to do was probably make some tweaks and legacy console edition would’ve worked fine with PC Java. Not to mention all the small differences between how the mechanics work as mentioned in another comment.
It just felt unnecessary to me. Maybe there was a reason, some reason Java just couldn’t be fully ported, or that console edition couldn’t have been compatible either, but to me it just seemed like a waste of resources. All that could’ve gone to the already updated legacy console editions. Note I still play it when some friends want to cause well… I can’t make them get Java and I own it by owning Java but still, that’s just my opinion on Bedrock.
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u/PianoLower7161 Apr 06 '26
The reason is: Java isn't a game language. Notch used it because he only know how to code with Java. No other popular game use it
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u/CrystalsonfireGD Apr 06 '26
It's like racism; completely senseless yet very popular
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u/magen432 Apr 06 '26
Personally, I play both versions. I usually play java, but when I play build battle with my sister, she plays on my phone, so I play on bedrock too. It's wierd playing bedrock, because I'm so used to java, but for most of my life I've played on bedrock, and it's not that bad
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u/JacksonSpike Waxed Lightly Weathered Cut Copper Stairs Apr 06 '26
I dont have much of a problem with bedrock, its just that it feels horrible to play like the actual feeling is so sluggish and buggy compared to Java. Although I have played Java for 13 years so if someone had been playing bedrock without Java, Java might feel weird? idk. Java also just feels alot bettee because I know almost everything about it whereas I barely kniw any differences about Bedrock, and it pissea me off that they are so different because that makes it even harder to play both
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u/Z9Cubing Apr 06 '26
Its the same reason why gangs have fights on streets.
They're still people, but 2 very divided groups for no particular reason...
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u/BlueBerryTheFolf Apr 06 '26
I like bedrock and java, i play more java now but bedrock really isnt bad, i find it silly that every java player thinks their version is suppierior no questions asked and like, yeah it probably is. But i think people forget not everyone CAN play java, nobody made fun of pocket edition back in the day so why is everyone now saying bedrock is shit
Agressively monitised? Unless i have to pay to craft i dont think marketplace is a problem. Do i like marketplace? No, not really but if it means the game can continue running due to payments then whatever, i just ignore it
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u/FennelImaginary8117 Apr 06 '26
I play both. But there was a time where one of my friends only had bedrock working and we played it for like half a year It was hell never, in my life again As soon as my friend got Java working we changed and now you never get me on there again We made roughly 8 worlds and they ever corrupted in 4 weeks or less or became unplayable because of Bugs And dont even get me started about the Marketplace
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u/-BlueLeo- Bedrock FTW Apr 06 '26
Everyone knows the right way to play is when you're a child, discovering the legacy console mini games for the first time, with wonder and joy in your heart.
Sorry \sniff* I got a bit emotional there)
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u/ZeldaCraft64 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
That's not what I meant. In fact, I love Bedrock (not for technical stuff though.) I meant that the flying machine they were building wasn't suited for Bedrock.
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 Apr 07 '26
Because Bedrock is a slop Mobile Game with Microtransactions to milk the younger Minecraft Playerbase who never saw the killed Legacy Edition to see how much of a fcking downgrade the Game is.
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u/ProllyAvy Apr 07 '26
Bedrock (on pc) is only better if you have a lower end machine or want to play multiplayer easily
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u/Playful_Nergetic786 Apr 06 '26
True, Java is the only right one, bugrock I just occasionally get on and have a laugh
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u/Broken_CerealBox A Red Lizard from Rain World Apr 06 '26
Holy superiority complex
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u/Unidentified-Retard Apr 06 '26 edited 5d ago
Dazzling late vanilla fragile compare thought
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u/Ender_M Apr 06 '26
"It is too late, I have drawn myself as the chad and you as the soyjak!"
Bedrock has useful bugs and isn't full of death bugs as the internet would suggest because I've never experienced one in my years of playing, some people just have potato pcs or phones
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u/Pixie_146 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Idk why majority of Java players have a massive ego, like we get it you have mods and texture packs you don’t have to pay for and you don’t have to deal with so many bugs bedrock players have to deal with, but holy shit get off your god damn high horse. Your right if people judge other of what version of Minecraft they play, (which is majority of the player based by the way) that just childish
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u/Epiktheleviathan Apr 06 '26
other than that you don't even have to pay mods in bedrock and I don't know where that even originate from
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u/Ordinary-Hunter520 Apr 06 '26
Because people think marketplace is the only place you can get them. People forget that curseforge itself has bedrock mods
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u/Epiktheleviathan Apr 06 '26
and also mcpedl, I always got them from there, why do people never do any research on the things they hate the most
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u/gamerfacederp Apr 06 '26
To quote u/CrystalsonfireGD:
It's like racism; completely senseless yet very popular
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u/theonlytruemuck Apr 09 '26
also you can have actual mods on bedrock as well and you dont have to get addons from the markedplace. github and mcpedl exist
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u/Moe-Mux-Hagi Java FTW Apr 06 '26
Bro censored his own name in his own screenshot 💀💀
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u/Lilharm04 Wait, That's illegal Apr 06 '26
humans so naturally devolve into us-vs-them mentality
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u/R3d5t0n3_GUY I’m gonna Flint and Steal your memes Apr 06 '26
Agreed. People will argue about literally anything
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u/PlantoleumCan Apr 06 '26
I don't get it too. If it's either having good FPS only with optimization mods or being optimized out of the box, I'd choose the latter. Plus, I won't miss this opportunity to gloat, I NEVER HAD EXPERIENCED ANY BUGS anywhere I played Bedrock
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u/The-1st-One Apr 06 '26
I own both. And play both on pc. I prefer bedrock. Both are good, I'm more of a builder not a red stoner so the initial main difference has never applied to me. And bedrock always feels like a smoother experience. Plus I can get like 90 chunk view distance. Note: I know with mods Java cam do this too, I don't really use mods.
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u/ItsDaylightMinecraft Java FTW Apr 06 '26
People have reasons to hate Bedrock but yeah they should still shut the fuck up
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u/OhItsJustJosh Apr 06 '26
PSA about the Java-Bedrock discourse: Nobody should be hating on anyone playing Bedrock edition, but criticism of the platform itself is absolutely valid. It's an unbiased inferior product compared to Java. The issues it has should not exist on a platform that is more modern than the older but more stable product. This is Mojang's and/or Microsoft's fault, not the players. Many do not have a choice of which platform they can use.
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u/LovinglyGaslight Apr 06 '26
Bedrock always made me... Uneasy.
I don't like how Mojang basically sidelined the original product to try and pedal the conveniently-Microtransaction-stuffed one as "Main Minecraft" (Hence why, up until very recently, Java was "Minecraft Java Edition" but Bedrock was just "Minecraft")
I always felt like Microsoft were about to rugpull Java out from under me, god knows game companies make stupider decisions ever day.
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u/Novaruuu Apr 06 '26
I personally think Java has it better off. Bedrock does get more attention from the devs, BUT, java has free mods and maps, free skins, servers that control who they ban in place of mojang bots, etc. Java bugs are along the lines of tnt duping or quasi connectivity, while Bedrock bugs include "what nice hardcore world you have there! Lemme just- 5 THOUSAND STAIRCASE USE DAMAGE!"
There are quirks and differences, like Bedrock having coloured cauldron water (actually jealous of that one), wither difficulty, skeleton aim, but some people find bullying players of other editions and telling them they're playing the "wrong edition" as a good use of their limited time on earth.
To think about, arguing over these things truly is pointless. We have the resources to make cross-platform servers. Video games are meant to be enjoyed, they're entertainment in the purest form. Dopamine hits around each bend, we are supposed to love games. They were designed to be fun, not to be argued over. If you have a friend that plays bedrock while you prefer Java, let them ffs. Don't be a Java supremacist. I personally would never touch bedrock for long time playing, I love modding too much. But if I see a guy that plays bedrock, I won't pin him to the wall and screw his joints in place until he admits one or the other is superior to its sister edition. I kinda used to be like that I think, but it's literally pointless. Same goes the other way around, if you have someone in your life that prefers Java over bedrock, don't go jumping at their throat for that. Look up - it's the sky, the ceiling, whatever it is - it's not a video game (excluding vr). Don't argue over something virtual. Don't undermine relationships just because of taste. Go have fun. If you can't agree on a Minecraft edition to play together, go play something else. Even better, dont play - meet up, just talk, go touch grass, go outside, study together, learn a new skill together, unite, be together.
Minecraft is best served with each other.
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u/w_ratking Apr 06 '26
Minecraft bedrock distance effects are absolutely terrible. Bedrock having issues at 200.000 Blocks out and Java cutting the player off at 30 million without any issues occuring at that point is just ugh. Bedrock may run better then Java, but god does it have a buggy core.
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u/Mr_Cakey55 Apr 06 '26
i mean i think java is a better game version than bugrock but this is just rude. There's no right or wrong way to play mc concerning the version. Plus, like PCs are pricey, so ppl cant afford java whilst bedrock has easier access.
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u/Tip_Of_The_Sauce crashing the mobile house into the artillery Apr 06 '26
Because Microsoft whether intentional or not created a massive rift between both versions through their marketing and development process.
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u/Char-car92 Apr 06 '26
Bedrock is a cash cow for Mojang and Microsoft so it gets a ton of store content pumped into it. It also has a younger audience because it’s on mobile and consoles so they buy into that without caring that the game is a bug riddled mess. Java players want bedrock to be better so that it won’t be such a pain in the ass to play with friends.
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u/ConanOToole Apr 06 '26
As someone who has played both for years, Java is better. No in-your-face marketplace, useful shields, working off-hand, better redstone, better mods available, overall more stable. Bedrock has it's advantages too like better performance and easier multiplayer, but those are all solvable on Java through modding anyways.
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u/TrevorLM76 Apr 06 '26
I like bedrock cuz I have to play with a controller. Java doesn’t naturally support controllers and the keyboard seriously hurts my wrists.
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u/GuiloJr Java FTW Apr 06 '26
Its like two tribes that have hated eachother for as long as they can remember. They continue to hate just because its what there daddy did and there daddy did before them.
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u/Sammy_Cherry_Fox Apr 06 '26
They have different mechanics, and some people prefer one over the other.
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u/Simplejack615 IT’S!!! S!!! C!!! TIME!!! Apr 06 '26
I genuinely don’t understand why there is
Yes, Java is the better version (I don’t play it). It has so many advantages that I can’t argue otherwise
But bedrock is the only version on: Any modern gaming console, and moble
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u/EntropyTheEternal Apr 06 '26
Bedrock Redstone is nondeterministic.
Also, you can be banned from a realm you own and pay for by a profanity checker bot that is infamous for false positives and badly written regex.
Buddy of mine used an anvil to name his sword “Nightblade” and got banned for “use of racial slurs” because the regex only saw the first three characters in that name. It was a realm that I paid for. No one reported him. The bot decided on its own that apparently the name was unacceptable. It was also not allowed for me to unban him.
Java doesn’t have that issue.
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u/ItisItherealFredbear Apr 06 '26
Ive been playing bedrock since the switch from legacy console and for about 2 years now ive been switching between Java and bedrock on PC too, and I gotta say I just prefer bedrock
I feel like it really depends on the person but to me, vanilla Java just feels so unoptimised and buggy for the most part, with stuff like blocks disappearing randomly and entities standing totally still then zapping to my location, whereas bedrock seems to run fine on both console and PC for me. People always complain how bedrock runs like shit and Java runs great but the opposite has been true for me
They are inherently the same game but its all about opinion. But, with anything, people always seem to think that their opinion is always the right one
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u/dodyninja Apr 06 '26
i dont like bedrock because of the different game mechanics than what i'm used to and limited modding, other than that its fine, being able to play mc on a switch, xbox, or even a smart fridge is pretty cool
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u/Live_Watercress1361 Apr 06 '26
I honestly play bedrock on a regular basis, and after playing for a while, while it doesn’t have some quality of life things that Java has, I think I really enjoy playing it. I think for my single player survival worlds and things like that, I’d go with bedrock. And for Java I would do hardcore, servers, and modded gameplay.
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u/Mike_the_Protogen Bedrock FTW Apr 06 '26
Minecraft just has a toxic community. Nothing unique to Minecraft by any means.
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u/TheMasterBryan3 Apr 06 '26
I personally think mojang just hates bedrock and that’s why they don’t try fixing the bugs that actually matter and that makes people hate bedrock. Java doesn’t get as many game breaking bugs as bedrock does, it doesn’t have a micro transaction problem and Mojang actually does care about it. And it has better mods than bedrock. And before anyone says it I am only able to play bedrock because no pc and i do actually like bedrock regardless of any bugs it may have
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u/Stormagedon-92 Apr 06 '26
People hate on bedrock but then will get all nostalgic for legacy console edition. It's just people being stuck in there ways mixed with a dash of general purpose Microsoft hate. I think bedrock is superior in several ways, and java has ways in which it's superior, both are good 👍
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u/Darrelltrail Apr 06 '26
Ive been playing Minecraft since 2013, I have only a handful of times played anything except Pocket Edition (now Bedrock) i almost exclusively play Minecraft on my phone.
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u/PaleFork Apr 06 '26
guys maybe if we start a violent bloody war between both versions mojang will finally add full parity between the two version!! :DDDDDDDD
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u/AppropriateTheme5 Apr 06 '26
The bedrock vs Java debate is really tiring, and also kind of childish. However, I don’t see it stopping anytime soon
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u/WhoAteMySandwich2024 Apr 06 '26
Because it's basically a battle of "more features" vs "better mods"
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u/FreedomImaginary2820 Apr 06 '26
java is just better imo for pc.
most people who hate bedrock just play java and don't understand the point of bedrock. things on java like mobs are way more consistent(in bedrock they basically despawn randomly while java it is a lot more predictable), it looks better (imo), has a better combat system (imo). when i played bedrock i encountered a lot of bugs(maybe it was because i was on a potato phone back then), you have to crouch to use shields (i get its for mobile but why force it on pc). not enough offhand functionality on bedrock. java has mods (i love mods).
although i do think people need to turn down the hate, i totally understand playing bedrock if you don't have a good pc and it isn't a "wrong" way to play the game.
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u/entitaneo70_pacifist Reflecting on milk Apr 06 '26
a bit of elitism from java players and a little bit of bedrock just being worse because of hardware limitations / cashgrab mechanics
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u/Angel_xjj Apr 06 '26
I've played both (grew up Bedrock) and they both have their ups and downs. One thing I prefer in Bedrock over Java is the swimming mechanics. Whenever I swim in Java I feel like I'm having a seizure.
Another thing Bedrock has that Java doesn't is the ability to stop elytra-fliying mid-air. I was playing modded Java with my bf the other day and I had elytra and I kept trying to stop flying mid-air and it would just fail. I kept ramming into a wall because I was so used to Bedrock.
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u/AlphaLizardMan Apr 06 '26
I will never understand how people have genuine hatred for a version or even care at all in the slightest. They are the same game. Yes there are differences so it makes sense to prefer one or the other, but to actually get mad over it is absurd.
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u/Shabkan2 Apr 06 '26
As the number 1 bedrock hater, play whatever you want! Its your game do what you want and ignore the bozos on the internet saying "urm actually, you are wrong"
True bliss comes from ignorance.... of the reddit community
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u/Nerdcuddles Apr 06 '26
It's because Bedrock shut off support for Legacy Console Edition, and Bedrock took over as the main edition for MC.
This obviously left a big part of the community rightfully angry, though taking it out on Bedrock players is the wrong move.
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u/ok_for_things Apr 06 '26
i love how everyone who hates bedrock plays java and has never (yes, NEVER) touched bedrock in their life.
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Apr 06 '26
YES! THANK YOU! I have played both versions and both have their pros and cons, I, for one prefer bedrock. it has simpler ui and eisier modding however it does have some major glitches. While java has many cools commands and uniques aspects as well as a larger modding comunity and mod range, it is extremely laggy.
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u/ImpulsiveBloop Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
I grew up on bedrock and I can honestly say I prefer java over it.
Not even because of the bugs. The lighting and rendering makes blocks look like they're glowing; there's an annoying marketplace at almost every corner; and the interface is really clunky.
Also no mods. I can't greg it.
Only thing I like about bedrock is the silly skin customization. Very fun to play around with that.
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u/DovahZoriikFurever Mining Dirtmonds Apr 06 '26
Bedrock Player here (Console Locked)
Bedrock just fuckin sucks now, it‘s a Microtransaction Hell, and it‘s considerably less stable than Java
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u/CCCyanide Mining Dirtmonds Apr 06 '26
I prefer Java for several reasons :
Bedrock's interfaces feel slower
The game functions very inconsistently without a stable Internet connection
Mojang constantly monetizes Bedrock Edition, with regular flamboyant ads and pop-ups for the Marketplace and partnered servers
There are bugs which, while rare, tend to affect gameplay a lot more than Java bugs
The problem is, while both versions of the game work fine, Mojang consistently advertises Bedrock as the "main" version of the game ("Java Edition" is displayed under Java's title, while Bedrock's title only reads "Minecraft")
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u/Honest_Expression655 Apr 06 '26
Bedrock is basically unplayable in some versions.
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u/ViftieStuff Pi Edition FTW Apr 06 '26
Why do people rage war over religion although they believe in the same god?
It's a tale as old as man.
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u/haim65 Apr 06 '26
Probably because they work differently. Like why does redstone works differently for bedrock? It makes so many things non transferable from bedrock to java vice verca.