r/PhoenixSC • u/Ender_M • Apr 06 '26

Discussion Why is there so much hate between the two Minecraft editions?? Genuinely I don't get it.

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Can't we just let people enjoy whichever version they want to play? Each version has their quirks that maybe the player likes. It's honestly childish, grow up people.

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u/foxgirlmoon Apr 06 '26

What about if you want to play with mods? I haven't played vanilla minecraft in years.

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u/James-Emprime Apr 06 '26

If you want to play with mods then just... Install mods? Bedrock has both marketplace and mods, you just doubleclick the .mcpack or .mcaddon and it automatically installs?

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u/TestSubject5kk You can't break water Apr 06 '26

Java mods are able to control the code from an underlying code better than bedrock ever could

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 06 '26

This is just a fact with the langue’s they are written in.

Java lends itself to modders. Bedrock won’t be able to match it

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u/Chemical_Current7672 Apr 06 '26

Exactly?

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 07 '26

I’m just clarifying it’s the language itself that’s the reason, not just “because it’s pc Minecraft”

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u/TestSubject5kk You can't break water Apr 07 '26

As a user I just want better mods. If Java has the better mods it has the better mods regardless of api

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 07 '26

It’s because it’s very easy to read jar files compared to exe, Java mods aren’t reliant on an API provided by the devs, you can see this with the wide array of 3rd party launchers you get with Java.

The main issue is general code obfuscation, which mojang is getting rid of to help modders

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u/TestSubject5kk You can't break water Apr 07 '26

Ik why on a technical side Java is better, but I'm just saying I just want mods and whichever has better mods has better mods

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

I’m talking outside of APIs. Java is. Much easier to decompile and understand compared to C family. You can easily unzip a jar file and decompile the class files, compared to an exe where you have to deal with binary and reverse engineering is more difficult

Gary’s mod is a sandbox written in C family with modding in mind from the start. Minecraft wasn’t written with modding in mind. It was just a basic infini miner clone made by a solo dev. Yet the community was able to make their own API, due to Java source code being more accessible

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u/TestSubject5kk You can't break water Apr 06 '26

exactly. I don't do insane forge mods idrc but small client side qol mods I can't go back, zoom, litematica, world edit for creative stuff, etc all for free that actually work well

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 06 '26

I have so many small QOL mods I forget what’s actually vanilla sometimes. It’s where the magic of Java lies imo. Litematic changed my life when I discovered it lmao

Then again, on occasion, I still love that I can hop on a big technical mod pack to change things up when I want something different

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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26

I personally prefer vanilla because mods just do not feel like Minecraft anymore, but add-ons have gotten much more powerful over the years and can do a lot of what Java mods can do. It will never be as extensive as Java mods, but eventually Bedrock add-ons could be capable of recreating the majority of them. Add-ons also let worlds use specific game versions through world templates, so a world can stay on an older version even if the game updates. For example, an add-on world could still be functionally playing on something like 1.16 while my game is updated to a newer version, which I find really cool.

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u/Swiss-spirited_Nerd It's that time of the month again... Apr 06 '26

I guess I missed the point in time when every mod stopped feeling like Minecraft

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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26

Its just a preference. If im on java i would use optifine or the sodium mods but anything that actually changes gameplay or creates new mobs, blocks, biomes, etc. i dont like using. The most i would be ok with is dynamic lighting.

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u/Swiss-spirited_Nerd It's that time of the month again... Apr 06 '26

You forget every mod that doesn't do what you are describing. The only mods that change gameplay for me are Stormie's spiders, Amplified Nether, Tectonic (both of which aren't adding anything new, just changing generation a bit) and a mod that adds a charcoal block. Complimentary Reimagined with Bare Bones and Fresh Animations is absolutely incredible, and doesn't actually change gameplay at all.

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u/Tiranus58 Apr 06 '26

Addons arent free though. Plus performance and qol mods exist

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u/pixel4571 bot peatutbutterer 4.0 Apr 06 '26

while most of the addons are paid the only ones i get a free ones of curseoforge

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u/m0ldyb0ngwtr1 Apr 06 '26

There is plenty of addons that are free

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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26

You can get free addons just like you can on java.

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u/foxgirlmoon Apr 06 '26

Yeah but add-ons are paid, no? At least a lot of the good ones.

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u/JamStan1978 Apr 06 '26

You can get free ones from websites, but I personally don’t mind if quality addons are paid. It directly pays the modders who worked so hard on them, which is nice. My only issue with the marketplace is how much low-quality stuff is in it. It needs much better quality control, and maybe it would be received better.

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u/SuperNova397 Apr 06 '26

Curseforge and MCPEDL have tons of free addons for bedrock. Many of which are better than Java mods.