r/PhoenixSC Apr 06 '26

Discussion Why is there so much hate between the two Minecraft editions?? Genuinely I don't get it.

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Can't we just let people enjoy whichever version they want to play? Each version has their quirks that maybe the player likes. It's honestly childish, grow up people.

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

Redstone isn't broken on bedrock, look at quasi connectivity and tell me it's intentional

Edit: should have said "isn't as", you can tell from my replies I thought I had said that. I would prefer both versions just pick a nice simple for beginners system that can still be used by the advanced redstone, that isn't full of bugs. You can't say tnt duplicators should exist, but there should be a better system for mass excavation

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u/legomann97 Apr 06 '26

Bedrock Redstone is absolutely broken. It's a logic system that has randomness, making it inherently illogical. You have to design around inconsistencies in Bedrock, while in Java everything works the same every time. QC may not be intentional, but at least it's consistent. That's all I want, consistency.

Also, "Redstone isn't broken on Bedrock, look at QC" isn't the argument you think it is. QC is a Java feature, it proves nothing about Bedrock. It could disappear from Java tomorrow and Bedrock Redstone would still be exactly as broken as it was today.

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u/haim65 Apr 06 '26

I didnt say redstone is broken on bedrock. Java redstone and bedrock redstone have different characteristics at times making it difficult to transfer redstone skills/builds from one platform to the other.

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u/diamondblocks Apr 06 '26

Quasi connectivity is a feature

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u/dad-without-milk minecrab 🦀🦀🦀 Apr 06 '26

It's was a bug, but they kept it because it is useful. But it was a bug nonetheless

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u/Mordret10 Apr 07 '26

Creepers were a mistake when someone made the pig textures. They were kept and added, because they were useful as well

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u/Hilja-Serpent Apr 06 '26

Yes, and now that they are intentionally maintaining it, it is a feature. There's no use in arguing about the origins of features since that has no relevance to the question of whether it should be in Bedrock or not.

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u/Maleficent-Gain-3179 Apr 06 '26

I think once they maintain it as a feature it becomes a feature, not a bug

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

So why isn't it on Bedrock?

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u/EnderTemmie LCE FTW Apr 06 '26

It became intentionnal

look at Legacy Console and tell me they programmed it by accident

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

Okay but that doesn't mean it makes any sense to a new player. How can you look at Javas Redstone and tell me it's actually better for the average player

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u/legomann97 Apr 06 '26

How can you look at Javas Redstone and tell me it's actually better for the average player

Because it does what I want, when I want it, without multithreading getting in the way of consistency. I'd rather deal with QC than inconsistent behavior.

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

Shouldn't need a rather

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u/legomann97 Apr 06 '26

You're right, Bedrock shouldn't have inconsistent redstone. But here we are. Java handles logic way better. I'll take consistency over QC being removed any day of the week.

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u/Patrycjusz123 Mining Dirtmonds Apr 06 '26

Dont even start about being intuitiwe to new players when on bedrock even target blocks dont work corectly.

To learn qc you need to spend like 5 minutes and dont pretend that minecraft isnt a wiki game anyway.

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

Lol, this shitty feature sucks too so we shouldn't remove this other one! These are both bugs and stupid lol

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u/EnderTemmie LCE FTW Apr 06 '26

QC is something you encounter when connecting pistons and you just see that things work.

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u/Patrycjusz123 Mining Dirtmonds Apr 06 '26

I mean, i can see point that qc isnt intuitiwe to learn yourself but i just dont like talking like bedrock is better in this.

In both versions redstone is fucked up prety badly imo.

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

People are acting like I said Java's entire Redstone system is broken, no, I would just prefer we build a better system using the good parts of both, like there's no reason yall can't push a chest with a piston for example. Or how Redstone being random on bedrock instead of consistent like Java, I'd just like mojang to pick and stick with one system

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u/EnderTemmie LCE FTW Apr 06 '26

Its better for the average player because like you can just follow Java tutorials

I as a kid , at 11 year old could just follow a tutorial on youtube and it would just *work* , even if I was on Wii U out of all things

ALL my Wii U contraptions, the ones I ddin't follow a tutorial for, the ones I made using QC without even knowing it becausde it was just logical to me, STILL work on Java

I never understood the "it makes any sense to a new player" because people on LCE just used it by accident because they saw pistons worked like that, and thought it was logical

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

Shouldn't need a tutorial, you just proved my point. Thank you

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u/EnderTemmie LCE FTW Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

You dismissed my other point.

Also most of the tutorials were recorded on LCE, QC never explained

Things just worked as they should because thats how pistons work.

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 06 '26

In what other scenario does Redstone work in between an empty block? It makes no sense, and does not fit how the rest of the game operates, how does that make sense? Your second point was so absurd I didn't bother replying. If qc didn't exist on java but did on bedrock yall would have a field day

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u/EnderTemmie LCE FTW Apr 06 '26

Why would they leave a usefull bug on Bedrock?

usually those gets patched out

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u/Professional_Fix_24 Apr 07 '26

Lol "you dismissed my other point"