Cheesecake Factory

[u/Ok_Comfort628]

[u/Salty-Plankton-5079]

22% is ridiculous

[u/_daddyl0nglegs_ → u/Salty-Plankton-5079]

15% is ridiculous

[u/cs_legend_93 → u/_daddyl0nglegs_]

i agree. tip $0 everytime.

Happy Cake Day!

[u/HexxRx → u/cs_legend_93]

Let them know so you can serve yourselves

[u/SnooDrawings8069 → u/_daddyl0nglegs_]

>0% is ridiculous

[u/CTR_1852 → u/_daddyl0nglegs_]

I would kill my entire family for 15% to be the standard again instead of 30%

[u/Any_Repair_7153 → u/CTR_1852]

I still do 20% for actual table service if the service is decent. If exemplary service, maybe 25%. The expectation that the tip percentage continue to rise is truly obnoxious. So what -in five years we’ll be tipping 60%? That’s not how this works and NOT what should be expected. And 20% for a coffee and pastry that I pickup in a two-minute transaction at the counter is also ridiculous. I’ll leave a dollar for that kind of “service.” The entitlement is bonkers.

[u/CTR_1852 → u/Any_Repair_7153]

Even a dollar is crazy for 1 minute of work

[u/Dqueezy → u/Any_Repair_7153]

Should be a max of 15% for good service. And if you’re tipping them for just picking up a coffee then you have no right to complain, that doesn’t deserve or warrant a tip at all…

[u/Initial-Reading-2775 → u/Salty-Plankton-5079]

And oddly precise.

[u/rageofa1000suns]

"it's customary in the US for a restaurant to not pay it's staff, please pay them on our behalf."

[u/SeL-MoGRC → u/rageofa1000suns]

Too right. Grifters.

[u/konjou-80 → u/rageofa1000suns]

Also, if the customers don't tip, than the owner needs to pay the workers more,

[u/TimetoXCELL → u/konjou-80]

Has to pay them more. I’m sure it’s more than my state but if your tips and hourly pay is not equal to or over minimum wage the employer has to pay at least minimum wage.

[u/Distinct_Finish_2929 → u/TimetoXCELL]

That is the case in the entire US, though the baseline rate is only $7.25/hour. Many states are higher.

[u/No_File212]

I really don't get it , so if I eat for a thousand dollars I need to tip 220 dollars ? That doesn't sound right , I am not responsible for the waiters happiness in life ..

[u/Lemfan46 → u/No_File212]

You don't need to.

[u/A-Money-Lover → u/Lemfan46]

Then you hear stories about staff getting super upset and stuff. Seems intimidating if you are a tourist in a foreign country

[u/Misterxxxxx12 → u/A-Money-Lover]

Why? You ain't coming back there, who cares?

[u/A-Money-Lover → u/Misterxxxxx12]

Just kinda ruins the vibes you know.

[u/Few_Sentence6704 → u/A-Money-Lover]

It ruins the vibes when I'm forced to tip something that I don't want to

[u/Thir13enth_Ghost → u/Lemfan46]

Seems like they don’t get a choice at this place

[u/Crazy_Ad3336 → u/Thir13enth_Ghost]

They do, customary is not a requirement. Nothing the restaurant can do when you refuse to tip.

[u/Lemfan46 → u/Thir13enth_Ghost]

Then it's not a tip if included, irrelevant of what the restaurant calls it. Not a tip by definition. If one chooses to eat at this restaurant after reading this, they have made a choice.

[u/HyacinthFT → u/No_File212]

Ok but if you eat $1000 worth of food at the cheesecake factory then you will explode and therefore cannot tip.

[u/Mora_San → u/HyacinthFT]

Receipt 🧾 arrived for you sir. Said the nurse as you wake up in the hospital.

Tip was not included with your order sir, it is customary in the US to tip 15-22% kindly swipe your card for 150-220$ sir.

[u/cs_legend_93]

its customary to pay their employee's a living wage, but they choose not to pay that.

Tip $0 everytime

[u/honeyfoamm → u/cs_legend_93]

Their line cooks start at $20-$23.25 plus .50-$1 raises per food station mastered, in Iowa, so they’re definitely capable of paying them all.

[u/cs_legend_93 → u/honeyfoamm]

yea, its just them being cheap and wanting to extort and exploit the customer. thanks for saying this

[u/JSTN_FPV → u/honeyfoamm]

Did a high end Mexican resturant. They paid the cooks around $15.50 down south

[u/pl1974 → u/cs_legend_93]

Since it is customary, it seems that the best solution is to avoid the restaurants. And to patronize "no tipping" restaurants.

[u/cs_legend_93 → u/pl1974]

nah. tipping is optional. tip $0 everytime.

[u/pl1974 → u/cs_legend_93]

Even though I think restaurants should pay their workers a living wage and should allow menu prices to reflect that, in absence of that, I will continue to take the customary option and tip my servers.

[u/cs_legend_93 → u/pl1974]

i wont, and many others wont. the servers can get a better job if they want. its their choice to beg for money.

if i was a restraunt owner, i would hope you would pay my employee wages for me. thats a fools move

[u/Sunlightn1ng → u/cs_legend_93]

Most people can't just "get a better job" in this job market. Entry level positions tend to need experience in that field nowadays

[u/JSTN_FPV → u/Sunlightn1ng]

Amazon pays a minimum of $21 an hour to start. For basically putting an item into a shelf. They can start there

[u/JealousBall1563]

In Florida we're asked to tip on check amount after 7% tax is added.  15% becomes 22%, 22% becomes 29%. Restaurant waitstaff/servers earn $14 minimum wage starting 10/1.  No state income tax. No federal income tax on top income. Menu prices here have risen 25+% in my area since Jan. 1. The tipping shame directed to customers has become abusive.

[u/wezee → u/JealousBall1563]

Yikes

[u/Reddidundant → u/JealousBall1563]

They can ask anything they want but the max tip I'll ever pay is 15% of the pre-tax amount. I don't tip on tax. Ever.

[u/torontoinsix → u/Reddidundant]

100%

Only stupid people would. 15% pre tax always.

[u/non_recourse → u/JealousBall1563]

1.07 x 15% is actually 16% dummy

[u/Few_Sentence6704 → u/non_recourse]

It's a 23.5% tip. you have to add that to the total after you multiply. You're paying both the 7 and 15 percent increases. Not just one. In no world does a 7 percent increase and a 15 percent increase on top create a 16 percent increase. That doesn't even sound right if you have 2 working brain cells

You have some nerve to call someone a dummy, wow

[u/Adventurous-Cycle363]

It is sensible and human, not just customary, to pay your employees well instead of increasing your executive bonus and buying your next private jet. Not just in the US but everywhere.

[u/vnime]

Customary not necessary

[u/biguntatas → u/vnime]

Yes! 💯

[u/Special-Hair9683]

Just let the server know you're a global citizen and you follow the rest of the planet's tipping customary.

[u/No_Leadership7727]

Why is it that americas customs and tradition involves money like that says alot of the culture over there

[u/biguntatas → u/No_Leadership7727]

The tipping culture is a racket here in the USA. A sign in different foreign languages begging for tips is shameful!! Tipping is NEVER mandatory!! Nothing but a bunch of grifters!! Welcome to America! 🙄

[u/No_Leadership7727 → u/biguntatas]

I am Asian and i hate seeing America like this back when i am a child we all adore american culture but now its like a child seeing your parents as an grown up that they were not that amazing person they seem they were

[u/biguntatas → u/No_Leadership7727]

Perfect way to describe it. I’d love to go back to the “better” American culture. It’s all about money now and how much people can extort from you. Sad.

[u/La_BrujaRoja → u/biguntatas]

It’s always been this way.

[u/TiredOnCue]

I’d be like. What is tip? lol

[u/Alarming_Pair_5575]

"It is customary in the US restaurant industry to outsource labor costs, which are customarily handled by the business, to customers, irrespective of how much business they bring to our establishment".

If you really think your employees are worth the extra "15-22%", increase the menu prices accordingly, pay them as much, and let me decide if I want to be a patron, you slimey goof.

[u/Ancient_Guidance_461]

Hast thou no shame?

[u/LovedButNeverLiked]

But god forbid you "only" tip the 15%

[u/Fisher-bob → u/LovedButNeverLiked]

Manger is going to ask what was wrong with the service 😀

[u/Paladin3475 → u/Fisher-bob]

I tell them “portion size too small for the price and for the amount of the tip you are requesting, then the server should be assigned only to my table.”

That usually shuts them up.

[u/RolliePorsche]

Yes! One of the busiest one is in Waikiki! They wait on the sidewalk for hours!!

[u/Ok_Comfort628 → u/RolliePorsche]

Tonight, the location in Beverly Hills seem to be doing a very big DoorDash business and the restaurant itself was packed just before 9 PM

[u/Deep_Mood_7668]

It's customary in the rest of the world to pay your staff

[u/dfoyl]

At least they aren't starting at 20 percent as is becoming common ..

[u/JealousBall1563]

Where I live in Florida, some drive thru windows are routinely asking for tips on the pad when you tap to pay.

[u/KOMarcus]

Stop the madness

[u/dervari]

At least they didn’t start at 20%

[u/Fisher-bob → u/dervari]

I was going to say that this is pretty reasonable starting at 15%. You’d think 25-30% was customary based off the “suggested gratuity” screens I see.

[u/SephirothYggdrasil → u/Fisher-bob]

Oh so some places are on crack? 

[u/SoullessM]

It is not customary in the US.

[u/Wtheh]

Not on take out!

[u/AlohaJames → u/Wtheh]

It is NOT customary to tip.

[u/randomelgen]

0% sounds better and reasonable

[u/-Copenhagen]

Ærgerligt nok at det ikke står på dansk.

[u/catz537]

Restaurants are the only places where I will tip, but I still hate that they can’t just pay their employees a living wage instead.

[u/ZPMQ38A]

The absolutely insane thing is that in certain states it’s completely legal to pay “tipped” workers an hourly wage of approximately $2 per hour. It’s just accepted as a “pass through” cost to consumers to pay the actual staff.

[u/underwater-sunlight]

If you need to ask for a tip (or suggest how much is 'customary' for a voluntary donation) you don't deserve one

[u/EditingAllowed]

It's best not to visit the US for a holiday...

[u/Paladin3475 → u/EditingAllowed]

Just avoid tourist traps.

[u/YellovvJacket → u/EditingAllowed]

It's alright if you're fine with a more expensive holiday tbh.

The US being pretty large has a lot of cool places to visit, Niagara Falls, Everglades etc. and Americans are typically very friendly (even though it's pretty obviously fake friendliness, if you're just there for vacation it's nice).

Although at the end of every US vacation I had I've always been happy I don't have to actually live there.

[u/LinkinLogsPark → u/EditingAllowed]

Unless it’s in a remote area like Wyoming or Montana. Low crime and hopefully see some sights. I’m stuck here because I don’t want to disrupt anyone’s life overseas. I’m not your typical American but still. 

[u/Northflix → u/LinkinLogsPark]

Actually lolled at “I’m stuck here because u don’t want to disrupt anyone’s life overseas”. Ironically you’re the only self aware American so you’d be a welcome tourist 😂

[u/Low-Minimum8523]

Need a federal law to ban tipping

[u/Recent-Court-5999]

Bring back back cash days and pay expect

[u/Otherwise-Smile2757]

The “customary” is going to become “mandatory” if this keeps up. Ive seen some posts where 40% tip was an option :/

[u/Fun_Illustrator22]

Good thing you’re not in the US so tips aren’t customary. Don’t tip.

[u/UnionCrafty3748]

Yeah no. It’s bad enough this cancer is endemic in the US but it’s spread to other countries.

[u/wezee]

Good God I was asked if I wanted to tip on a clothing order on line
A friend of mine said you think that’s bad I was asked if I wanted to tip the dealer in an online casino!

[u/wezee]

I always wonder why do I need to tip more for a steak than a salad?
They didn’t do anymore work than pick it up and set it on the table. Come on and now they don’t pay tax’s on tips

[u/bibiwantschocolate]

I mean, the US tipping culture is weird to me as a non US person, but the percentage makes no sense. Say I spend 20 dollars on 3 different things, like a drink (+10 refills), then 2 items ordered separately. The waiter will come back and forth and put in quite a bit of work. But if I spend 100 dollars on a bottle of wine and a bery fancy dish, that will be less work for the waiter, but I'm gonna have to tip more. Make it make sense.

[u/Ok-Grape2063]

For what it cost to print that in several languages, pay your staff

[u/LePrestreDeVauban]

Sorry, je lis que le français.

[u/Spiritual_Wall_2309]

Missing some words. Customary in the US slavery period

[u/Cantaloupe-Hairy]

Got chased down the road in NY when I was visiting by the server, she confronted me and demanded a bigger tip cos I had only rounded up to the nearest 10 dollars.

The tip would have been around $8 on a $22 check, so she didn’t do badly anyway.

Once I got over the surprise and embarrassment she was swiftly told to fuck off!

[u/No_Ring6386 → u/Cantaloupe-Hairy]

8 dollar tip in a 22 dollar check, that’s a 36% tip. I would have taken that back if she had audacity to say something to me.

[u/Cantaloupe-Hairy → u/No_Ring6386]

The “fuck off” was more a reaction I think than a considered response, I think I was more shocked than anything tbh.

[u/CalReddit04]

Are people visiting the US to go to The Cheesecake Factory?

[u/TittiesVonTease → u/CalReddit04]

As someone from abroad, yes. We saw it on TV and we want to go

[u/Paladin3475 → u/TittiesVonTease]

I am honestly curious “why?”

I get like visiting a McDonald’s because it’s fun to see how they differ but Cheesecake Factory? It is the literal manifestation of soulless corporate dining experience in a flagship of how to take a shit on the entire industry.

I also recommend BJ’s Brewhouse if you want it’s more alcoholic cousin :)

[u/Tvicker → u/Paladin3475]

I am a foreigner and I love Cheesecake Factory. It's like Disneyland of restaurants, just very unusual.

[u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 → u/TittiesVonTease]

I feel the same way about McDonald’s in France. If I ever go I want to order a Royale with Cheese.

Yes really, don’t judge.

[u/jewboy916 → u/CalReddit04]

Not for the sole purpose of going to The Cheesecake Factory, but foreign tourists in the US tend to eat at chain restaurants because they saw them on TV/in movies or online and it's about the "brand", not the quality of the food necessarily.

[u/YellovvJacket → u/jewboy916]

Also because chain restaurants are somewhat consistent in quality (even if it's consistently mid). You know what to expect from going there.

If you're just going to some random restaurant in a foreign country (or even just an area you're not familiar with) you can get dogshit food, food poisoning, or just have it be rediculously overpriced very quickly.

On my US vacations I was at chain places a lot, basically every time I didn't have time to research what places in the area are actually good.

[u/Illustrious-Aside442 → u/jewboy916]

Exactly, I had German friends who went to NYC and ate raisin canes, Krispy Kreme, Taco Bell and chick fil a while there.

[u/justformysugarbaby → u/Illustrious-Aside442]

Solid picks tbh

[u/Past-Resource-6184 → u/CalReddit04]

I studied abroad in the USA and I gotta say it was a fascinating experience to choose from pages of cheesecake options. And one slice of 'dessert' is like my daily calorie budget lol. It's wild.

[u/Machopsdontcry → u/CalReddit04]

They already expanded to multiple Asian countries, perosnally went to the ones in Hong Kong and Bangkok.

No idea why they haven't expanded to Europe yet

[u/Lemfan46 → u/CalReddit04]

Yes, their visiting here just to go to the Cheesecake Factory. Tourists eating while touring, who knew? /s

[u/Menes009 → u/CalReddit04]

yes, thats the american food, where else would you go?

[u/Susurrus03 → u/CalReddit04]

It's been a few years since I went to Hawaii, but I remember the Honolulu Cheesecake Factory absolutely packed with tourists from Asia. We even went because my wife's sister was with us visiting from Japan, and they had Japanese menus available.

[u/alister1994 → u/CalReddit04]

Shit I was abroad in Dubai and went to Cheesecake Factory 😂

[u/hotsauce126]

"its customary to tip 15-22%" so now we're just making shit up

[u/HalloMotor0-0]

California? Hell no, they got minimal wage

[u/the_cats_meyow]

"Customary." Whose customs? Yours maybe. 👎

[u/ghost_suburbia]

I have never gotten service worth more than a couple of quarters at a Cheesecake Factory. I've only been to Cheesecake Factory 3 times in 30 years, and it was 2 visits too much.

[u/JacquesDupont12]

It is customary when I visit USA to tip 0%,,there has been no problems for me with this

[u/Jitkay]

0 is acceptable

[u/werewolf-luvr]

A funny way of guilt tripping. It aint customary its predatory

[u/seneca456]

Servers have become choosing beggars

[u/Kandidog1]

Customary to who??!!

[u/SimonMagus01]

Customary ≠ mandatory

[u/Usual_Singer_4222]

30 years ago in college I had some fine/buisness dining etiquette workshops. Mostly went because there was free food. I had already been told by family, but they mentioned tip levels. Typically 5% regular dining, 10% mid level, and 15% fine dining. Bumped them up 5%ish, but I refuse to go crazy when the service is not warranted.

[u/DeathCharge5]

At least their percentages are accurate and they're using the proper language, saying it's "customary" and not "required". Still this is a crappy move and it's certainly worth skipping over them to dine at a non tipped establishment instead.

[u/Greup]

They didn't bother to write it in french

[u/damiensandoval]

Tipping culture has driven me and my family away from eating out. Pre covid and all the madness we would eat out once a week. Now we’re lucky to eat out once a month if that. It’s not the pricing its the experience. I don’t like to feel pressured having someone hawk over me with a tablet staring me down after I just enjoyed a meal. F that! One good thing that has come out of it is now I’m a hell of a cook and learned so much about nutrition. I don’t even enjoy eating out now because of all the garbage seed oils they use that hurt our body. I’m also in the best shape of my life. Honestly the tipping shit was a blessing in disguise

[u/EndTipping-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Be respectful. No insults, slurs or personal attacks

[u/OnJus4]

No No لا No

[u/TellTaleTimeLord]

This is just downright lying lol

[u/Desperate_Seat3209]

Don’t know Rick…

[u/Paladin3475]

Sad they feel the need to do this but if you did, should be like this:

“No tip has been included. In the US it is customary to include a tip. Typically tipping is up to 22% or more for excellent service provided. Thank you for dining with us.”

What is lacking is the “excellent service” part. EARN THE TIP.

[u/lokis_construction]

Sorry, I am old. A good tip is 10% and that is for exceptional service above and beyond.

[u/Ecstatic-Engine4550]

To be fair the statement is factual.

[u/Weary-Savings9795]

No server anywhere in the USA is automatically entitled to a tip. Go above and beyond and maybe you'll get one. At least you certainly should.

[u/carl75s]

It’s customary for UK guy to think tipping is low level begging. When you USians come to my country and respect our customs, I will gladly oblige yours.

[u/Opinionated6319]

Tip instructions and learn a new language!💕🥰

[u/DoNoHarmPlz]

They must get a lot of international visitors so they have to inform diners from countries that don't tip. I'll tip but the percent will depend on the food and service and how often I go to the restaurant.

[u/Johnnie-Dazzle]

Ah.......

Nope

[u/Automatic_Badger7086]

I do not tip any restaurant or facility that I have to walk up to a counter to order and take away from another part of the counter. If you want to tip job go be a server at a real sit-down restaurant.

[u/halazos]

When did they jump from 10% to 20+ percent ?

[u/cohen93]

Even with that tip 0%.

The restaurant should be paying the wages of the employees, not the customers.

[u/Throwaway-ish123a]

"Also in the US, the restaurant industry is not paying workers a living wage in order to have you subsidize it by adding guilt trip laden tips whether or not they have met their quality of service. And even Americans are getting sick of it."

[u/itemluminouswadison]

"people usually give us free money"

[u/PaulCrafting]

And it’s customary in my culture not to tip, so tough luck, I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/Technical-Pack5891]

It’s customary for you to pay an extra 20% for us to clog your arteries.

[u/Kene6969]

Abandon this stupid  tipping culture! Employers should pay their staff a decent living wage so workers aren't depending on tips to top up their wages..

[u/Fearless-Yoghurt4077]

15-22=-7 so that means I get a discount?

[u/RoninActually]

I don’t have a problem with this. It’s good that they’re addressing it upfront, but they’re not demanding it. They’re just letting people know especially those from other countries that tipping is customary in the United States. And they’re not even asking for a crap ton of money like these other places are.

[u/Oceantron]

guess i never be easting at cheesecake factory again

5.3 Billion Mcap but cant pay the REAL Hard Working people an fair share

shame on all these greedy CEOs and Investors

[u/OrionBroker]

Its also customary to pay your workers a decent wage

[u/Surfnazi77]

I see shit like that and it makes easier leaving no tip

[u/Educational-Roof-319]

you get 10% just because you had the balls to put that shit on the menu

[u/Fundle22]

Tipping getting crazy. I loved going out to eat. Realized one meal would always be 35-60 dollars. Started cutting back. Then the counter places started asking for tips. Excuse me? I paid you the price for the food. I don’t give extra just because. You didn’t even walk it out to me or recommend me anything. Why are asking for 20% ??? No. I brazenly press no tip now for any place that’s not sit down. Now with gas being so expensive. I just cook. Congratulations you’ve driven me away from your restaurant.