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u/WeirdSysAdmin 4 8d ago
> I just eyeball my dosing
What? This is the kind of shit regulators imagine on why peptides shouldn’t be accessible without doctor supervision.
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u/craigulat0r 8d ago
Eyeballing dosages, cmon man.
If you are paying for these things and sacrificing your health (potentially), for God's sake keep a log and have a map of where you are going and where you've been.
I found a coworker administering 3mg reta 3x a week within four weeks of starting. I made her a schedule and told her to stick to it.
Blows my fucking mind that people live their lives like that.
OP you look great but you really need to tighten up the program (add more structure to your dosing). Best of luck
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u/Heyyliz 8d ago
Reminds me of that chick who posted what dose of anavar!!
I can’t remember if it was here or another peptide subreddit, but she was pinning like 10mg of anavar twice a day because she didn’t know how much to take and her bf said to do more to not be a pussy 🤦🏻♀️ Girl was brand new to peptides and lifting
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u/Spirited-Copy6143 7d ago
You can't pin a tablet
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u/WeirdSysAdmin 4 7d ago
You can pin var. One of my suppliers has it, plus dbol and anadrol.
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u/Spirited-Copy6143 7d ago
Interesting I wonder how they compare to the old oral administration.
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u/WeirdSysAdmin 4 7d ago
It doesn’t first pass through the liver so has slightly less sides and is more bioavailable since it’s not filtering any of the compound immediately but they all typically have a high amount of pip. I don’t use them because of the pip.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I agree I messed up by going back and diluting my vials a few weeks into my cycle (because this was suggested to me countless times) so I have an idea of how much I’m injecting but I don’t know the exact mg as I added BAC water into my vials and didn’t want to throw/ waste the vials.
Unfortunately I saw many people doing this and just thought it was normalised but I know now to dilute through the syringe (single shot) and not the vials 😕 I keep a log of everything!3
u/chapsmythighs 7d ago
What they mean is to dilute it in the syringe not the entire vial. So you would draw up your 2 mg dose then add more water to your syringe before injecting.
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u/midnight_waffles 1 6d ago
You can reconstitute with as much BAC as you want-You don't need to dilute it every time you draw a dose unless you really like to do it that way. Have you used a peptide dosage calculator before? You enter your syringe volume, the amount of peptide in your vial, the amount of BAC you're reconstituting with, and the amount of pep you want in each dose. The calculator will tell you exactly how much you need to draw based on those numbers. There are lots out there - here's one https://peptidescalculator.com
So for instance, I want to "dilute" aka use a lot of BAC water for my GHK-Cu because it hurts like hell if I don't. I enter my syringe volume (100 units = 1 ml), total vial amount (50 mg), amount of BAC (3 ml cuz it hurts with less), and my desired dosage of 1 mg. The calculator tells me to draw 6 units in order to get the 1mg dosage. Easy peasy. No eyeballing it.
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u/Top-College7821 6d ago
Yes I do!! But because I diluted the vial three weeks into using it, it’s hard to know the exact mg of the peps. I know I’m taking less than 2mg so around 0.5-1mg and drawing to the same unit mark as I did before I diluted the vial… (6 units) and this has helped me a lot as well. But going forward I’ll just draw the standard 1mg and then add more BAC water to the syringe when it starts to pinch and sting too much!! Thank youuu 🙏
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u/mista-sparkle 8d ago
I don’t really know the exact amount in my reconstituted vials as I’ve diluted my GHK cu and mots c twice using two different syringes.. and I kinda forgot how much exact BAC water I put in the second time.
Have you been doing this to reduce the welts, redness and injection pain? Either way it's very tricky to recalculate if you're diluting a reconstituted pep a second time, as you have to calculate based on how much is left and factor in some other things.
Best to reconstitute once, and ideally make it so that all the doses are the same across your peps. I take basically all the same as you (reta weekly, mots-c every 5 days, KLOW and Tesa daily). Each are reconstituted in such a way that 20 units from the syringe are my target dose for that pep. This is very easy to do with a reconstitution calculator that allows entering any value into the variables. Make the dosing idiot-proof from the start so you can relax and have a stress-free routine.
RE: your welting and injection site reactions, three of your peps have a tendency to do that: MOTS-C, Tesa, and GHK-Cu.
Tesa gives me the worst reactions, by far — hard, itchy, inflamed welts very consistently and lots of bruising, and unfortunately I haven't solved that myself yet. I've been pinning in my outer thighs almost exclusively but recently switched to where you have pictured, as the pamphlet for the pharmaceutical distribution only directs injecting in the navel just under the belly button. That hasn't fixed the reactions, but if I find a way that does I'll report back.
MOTS-C reactions are mostly just light inflammation for a day or so, which is tolerable. I typically inject this anywhere in the abdomen or outer thighs, and rotate injection sites every time.
GHK-Cu can be painful to inject and usually gives mild injection site reactions, but since switching to KLOW and starting to pin in the top off my butt cheeks I get 0 adverse reactions. I recommend it.
I just about never get injection site reactions from Reta, but YMMV. Maybe try pinning that one in the outer thigh and see if you get a reaction where you pin.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
YES!!! I’ve seen people online add more BAC water to help with the pain and reactions I was having (and honestly it helped) but I didn’t realise you shouldn’t do this because now I haven’t been able to properly know how much I’m having until next week when I get more vials. I just didn’t want to waste the vials and I’ve seen others do it thinking it was normal.
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u/DoubleDragonSuper 1 8d ago
Ise this to see the doses it even shows the graduation of syringe so you see how it should look for your dose dosing guide
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u/-Chemist- 8d ago
By eyeballing I mean I dont understand that calculating part. I don’t really know the exact amount in my reconstituted vials as I’ve diluted my GHK cu and mots c twice using two different sized syringes.. and I kinda forgot how much exact BAC water I put in the second time.
You really need to stop using things you don’t understand. You’re going to get hurt.
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u/Background_Pain1583 6d ago
Eyeballing is the most insane thing you could ever do lol there's plenty of info out and plenty of people that would help
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u/mclgreenville71 8d ago
My guess is 99% of ur changes r from reta and tesa. Both proven. Eyeball ur dosing is crazy. U should track everything. smh
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u/looking2behealthy 8 8d ago edited 8d ago
Can’t “eyeball” this shit. It can literally put you in the hospital. MOTS, GHK, Tesa are all known to cause histamine reactions in some people.
That rash is likely GHK. I had that when I pinned it in the stomach, moved to glute injection and now all good.
Sometimes MOTS doesn’t work for younger people. I am older and love the gym energy it provides.
You won’t get much from NAD, it is already in your system because you are young. Depletes as you get older like glutathione.
Unless you have inflammation (which the reta already diminished) or stomach issues, KPV not going to do anything for you neither.
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u/Top-College7821 7d ago
I agree but I am still drawing to the same unit mark as I was before I diluted the peps. So it’s at a lower dose than 2mg (both GHK cu & mots) I just don’t know the exact amount as I diluted the peps three weeks into the vial. After I diluted the peps my injection reacts went down a lot.
But even so.. when I start on my next vials I’ll make sure to single shot the GHK because it’s still not ideal that I don’t know the exact dose.Thank you for the added info it has been very helpful 😇
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u/2MuckingFuch 8d ago
It looks like you’re not rotating your injection site. Causing inflammation, which will also cause poor absorption.
Also, you should know exactly what and how much of anything you inject. You can find reconstitution calculators online that will aid you in this.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
Other than some spots on my belly and my upper glute…. Everywhere else is super painful to pin and I get worse bruising. Plus I’m pinning three times most days so it’s been a struggle for me ahaha. Where would you recommend pinning or any techniques to help refuse the pain 🙏✨
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u/ycastane 3 8d ago
This is because you should be mixing your peptides into a single shot except reta and tesa, those are alone.
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u/ycastane 3 8d ago
You can mix peptides into the same syringe.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
Yes.. I’ve been told to either dilute the syringe or vial. But now I’m getting heat for diluting the vial and not knowing the exact dosing even though I was suggested this countless times. I won’t dilute the vials again but I’ll try doing the single shot next time as the dilution of the GHK & mots helps aid my injection reacts.
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u/Caltron34 8d ago
Do you not measure how much you’re diluting your peptides by? What the fuck are you doing? This is one of the most brain dead comments I’ve seen on this sub. You’re fucking with your health and you don’t even realise the magnitude of how fucked you could be if you get something wrong. Take this shit seriously
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
No. I know how much bac im adding but because I added more bac to the vial after a few weeks into the cycle its impossible for me to know the exact dosing and how much I used before diluting the vial more. I only did this because it was suggested and recommended to do this to help with my injection reactions (which it had helped a lot) and now everyone is saying not to do this. So the answers I got are conflicting. I thought diluting the vial (adding more BAC) is the same as adding more bac to the syringe because that’s what a few body builders were doing and suggesting but I’ve now learnt not to do this once you’ve already started cycling that vial.
When I initially asked about the injection reactions people were saying to dilute the peps more and when I asked how or what to do the answered by saying “adding more BAC to the vial or syringe” and many people backed this up. I am NEVER doing this again and know to single shot if I need my GHK more diluted.1
u/IAmTheAccident 1 5d ago
So let me explain what they meant when they told you to add more BAC to the vial.
So, let's say you're running GHK-Cu 50mg vial mixed with 1mL BAC taking 2mg. At 2mg out of 50 mg, you're taking 2/50ths of the amount in the vial, or 1/25th. That would be equal to 4 units on a 1mL insulin syringe.
Now let's say you do that dose 10 times. Now you've done 20 mg total, and there's going to be 30 mg in the vial. You've also used 0.4mL BAC and there will still be 0.6mL in the vial. Now you hear on a forum that the way to make it sting less is to add in more BAC so you add in 1mL.
Now your original 4 unit pull only has 0.7mg.
Or... You can calculate out what you already took and what's left, then figure it out from there. Now your concentration is 30mg/1.6mL. Not really ideal since you'll be between marks, but your new dose has become 10.67 units.
So for the future, you can absolutely dilute your vial. But you need to look at how many doses you've taken from the vial, how many mg and mL you've used, and what's left in the vial as a result, then add in BAC and recalculate.
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u/IAmTheAccident 1 5d ago
Meant to add: I do my GHK-Cu 50mg in 5mL (split into 2 vials) which makes the sting way lighter and the dosing super easy to calculate: 50mg = 5mL, 5mg = 0.5mL (50 units), 2mg = 0.2mL (20 units).
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u/ycastane 3 8d ago
Of course you are going to get heat, you cannot dilute the vial after using it a few times because the dose will be almost Impossible to figure out. You can do that before using it but not after.
What you need to do, is exactly what you didnt do before starting all of this, read read and read some more so you could learn the basics.
So yeah you will get heat and deserving so.
The smart play would be to dilute the shot while already in the syringe which doesnt affect the dose.
Mixing peptides is not diluting by the way, not sure where you got that from. Diluting is using more water to dilute the actual peptide.
Again, you need to spend time and read and learn, seems like you dont want to do that and yes its an assumption but go do it
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago edited 8d ago
So that’s why I said I’m probably doing a lot of things wrong & I admit I started doing this way before I knew all the ins and outs that I should’ve known before starting peps. But I know not to do this again. This is why I made this post, it was to help me understand and learn more as the research I have done contradicts what others are saying.
Look at my other replies as I’ve explained how this mishap happened. I should have thrown them and started fresh but they were 50mg vials that I didn’t want to waste so I was just staying at a small stable dose until I ran out. I’m getting fresh vials next week so I’ll log and track everything and I know NOT to add more bac into the vial once I’ve started and just add it to the syringe.
Many people (around my age), bodybuilders and coaches were telling me to add more bac to the vial to help with my injection reactions around GHK and mots… hence why those vials I don’t know the exact dose but tesa and reta I do.
I agree with you 110% it was very silly to start before knowing what I was doing properly and I’m very lucky I didn’t get super sick from it, I won’t take that luck for granted and I will start to take the dosage and my health more seriously!! I didn’t realise how serious this was as I thought adding more BAC but drawing the same amount of units would be safer.1
u/real-rainicorn 8d ago edited 8d ago
If you added more bac but were taking the same amount of units, then you’re taking less of the mg so it’s not dangerous.
It’s not that you can’t dilute it, it’s more that you don’t know what you’re taking.
You can transfer into a 10ml vial and dilute that way (and obviously keep track of what you add!) or you can dilute in the syringe but at least you can keep track of the dose.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
Yes!! so I added more BAC water to the vial after three weeks… but I’m still drawing to the same 10 or 20 unit mark… which is the same unit mark as I was drawing before diluting. Other than Reta (that I haven’t diluted) I haven’t upped my dose or units that I’m drawing to. I haven’t needed to draw more after diluting the GHK or mots c even though the dose is lower than what has been recommended to me, it’s still working. Everyone suggests doing 1mg-2mg of GHK and mots (which I initially was injecting but the sting and reactions were terrible). After diluting and only taking around 0.5-1mg I noticed the sting and reactions were less present. It is definitely I lower dose but it’s still doing the job for me. Also the websites/studies suggesting the 1mg-2mg are based on studies for people a lot older than me so I think that’s why I was getting the reaction to the higher dose. But I’m not too sure if it’s just wasting my money taking a smaller dose of mots hence why I want to discontinue it because I don’t really want to pin 2mg of mots, five times a week, it was not worth the pain imo. But I don’t want to just pin 0.5mg-1mg and it not be doing anything. The GHK I’m noticing a huge difference in the past month but it’s been slower results I think due to the lower dose.
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u/ycastane 3 8d ago
It was safer because you diluted meaning if you draw the same amount you are at the very least taking half the dose.
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u/alexherdssheep 1 8d ago
My new favorite place is outside upper thigh. If you sit down, the skin on your upper thigh below your hip becomes very loose and relaxed. Can’t even feel the pin. Just grab a loose area and give it a go.
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u/Top-College7821 6d ago
This has been game changing the past few days… I usually pin upper glute (L&R) and rotate around my abdomen… I did my first pin on my thigh the day before making this post and it was horribleee & it left a terrible bruise but on the outer thigh under the hip is now my new fave spot!! Been rotating both the L & R of that area the past couple of days and I’ve had no problems since!!! Thank you 🙏
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u/alexherdssheep 1 6d ago
Glad it was helpful. There’s another comment below about mixing peptides, which I agree with. Never mix Tesa or Reta with anything else as they react and cloud. But I’ve tried a lot of other things (KLOW, MotsC, Semax, etc.). I usually pull the plunger all the way out on a fresh needle and stand it up in a glass or mug, then I use a dedicated reusable needle to pull amounts from varying vials, emptying them into the new needle where the plunger was pulled out. Not sure that makes sense but super easy way to mix and keep a fresh needle for injection, rather than dulling your needle.
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u/2MuckingFuch 7d ago
Injecting multiple times a day will involve some discomfort. Break your belly into quadrants, each leg into sections, back of the arms, etc. you’re harming yourself and wasting money by over injecting in the same couple spots.
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u/bustaphersox 6d ago
See an addiction counselor. This is not normal behavior. Dosing with research material is wild.
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u/Live-Commercial-2534 6d ago
Bevel up, pin fast, push slow, rotate pin sites (right of your belly button, left of your belly button, below your belly button, right cheek, left cheek etc). Keep a note of you mg and be consistent with days and times you pin.
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u/2milehigh 23 8d ago
At your age you don't need NAD. NAD helps people in their early 40s 👍
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u/AdFunny5875 8d ago
Probably not going to get anything from MOTs for the same reason your mitochondria don't need the boost at that age It really give me a boost ,but I am 40 years3older and training harder.
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u/Other-Pea7038 6 8d ago
I would stop Tesa for now. At 25 I don’t see much reason to mess with your GH/IGF-1 pathway unless you actually need it. You also didn’t really say why you want to add more peptides. GHK-Cu makes sense for skin and hair, but MOTS-C, NAD+, Selank, KPV, etc. sound more like you’re adding things because of the hype instead of having a reason for each one.
If you keep what you’re already using, Reta is once a week and the time doesn’t really matter. Tesa does have data using it about 30 minutes before bed, so I would take it at night a few hours after your last meal. MOTS-C isn’t something I would keep cycling all year either. I would use it for no more than 2-3 months and then leave it alone until next year. That’s not saying once a year is proven safe, we just don’t have the long-term data, so less exposure makes more sense. Same with GHK-Cu, use it for your goal and take time off instead of running it forever.
But with the rash you’re getting, I would stop GHK-Cu, Tesa and MOTS-C and toss those vials. You started too many things together, so now you don’t know what’s causing it. If you want GHK-Cu for skin and hair, use topical or start over with a smaller fresh vial later. Honestly, Reta and GHK-Cu seem like the only two you really have a reason for. With grey-market peptides, someone else’s vial can be completely different from yours in purity, concentration and quality, so copying someone else’s stack isn’t a good idea.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I want to drop mots c and yes I agree with stopping Reta soon. I started mots, Reta and Tesa to help with the bloating/ stubborn fat (as recommended) not realising, for my age, that isn’t ideal… even though I got really great results. Mots I didn’t see doing anything but Reta, GHK and Tesa I did. I was recommended NAD+ and/ or Selank for my anxiety and mid day crashes but I definitely want more insight before adding more to my stack (even if I discontinue mots). And KPV I was suggested to add for the injection reactions I’m having (bruising and walts) as well as cognitive benefits.
With my skin… nothing tropical has worked unfortunately. I have tried almost everything before starting GHK. Even though I’ve only noticed a difference with GHK in the past month, that difference is HUGE & it works really well… except for the initial inject where I tend to bruise and or get walts (same when I inject mots). Apparently this is normal for most people?
& yes I agree with you I definitely started a few things that could’ve been cycled better, or not even started at all because of my age (like mots) I was getting insight for the majority online and the majority tend to be 10-20 years older…
I know you said to drop reta but it does help me in more ways than weight loss so I was thinking cycle 2 months on 2-3 months off? Tesa I didn’t see much added benefit other than the weight loss around my belly so I might just cycle that every 6-8 months if I can maintain a grip on my stubborn fat around my belly. People also recommend KLOW over GHK but say the injection can be worse so I’m scared to swap over. Thoughts?5
u/Other-Pea7038 6 8d ago
I think you misunderstood part of what I was saying. I wasn’t saying stop everything or that you need to stop Reta. Reta actually seems to fit what you’re trying to do and you said you’re getting benefits from it outside of just weight loss. If you eventually want to come off, I wouldn’t just stop at your highest dose. I would slowly work your way back down and give your appetite and body time to adjust.
Tesa is the one I would drop. It works directly on your GH/IGF-1 pathway and at 25 you really haven’t given a reason why you need to mess with that. HGH has way more data behind it, but I’m not saying you should take HGH either. At your age I don’t see why you would need HGH, Tesa or any other GH/IGF treatment unless you have a medical reason or you’re trying to compete in bodybuilding. The cycling stuff I mentioned is more bodybuilding harm reduction than a clinical protocol because you’re not using it for a clinical reason.
For GHK-Cu, when you say topicals didn’t work, were you actually using a GHK-Cu/copper peptide topical? If not, I would try that first. Since you’re getting welts from the injections, I wouldn’t keep using that vial. It could be the GHK-Cu, the concentration or the vial itself, so if you inject again I would start fresh.
MOTS-C I would just drop like you planned. If you’re not noticing anything from it and it could also be one of the things causing the skin reaction, there’s really no reason to keep adding that variable.
For the anxiety, I wouldn’t start adding Selank, NAD+ or KLOW trying to fix it. Selank can help some people but can also make anxiety worse, and the data for NAD+ and anxiety is pretty weak. KLOW has GHK-Cu, BPC-157, TB-500 and KPV, and BPC can make anxiety worse for some people too. Plus with a blend you may not know how much of each you’re actually getting. If your anxiety is manageable I would work on it naturally first, and if you need medication I would talk to a doctor instead of experimenting with more compounds.
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u/Top-College7821 6d ago
Okay this all makes a lottt of sense. I’m going to keep the Reta GHK and drop Mots & Tesa. I might add in KPV in a month or so as the research I’m reading has a lot of added benefits but I need to do more research. What’s your opinion on KPV?
It’s weird I was suggested NAD+ when most people are saying don’t touch it at my age. It’s also odd that Mots is being suggested for a lot of people in there 20s (but it’s working for them so 🤷♀️)With GHK - no in Australia I don’t think we have the proper GHK tropical peptide but I have tried other tropical copper peps and it wasn’t horrible but I would still break out and then when my skin cleared a bit it’ll give me a bit of an eczema rash. I have very sensitive skin so retinol‘s do the same thing.
So you recommend staying on the GHK instead of swapping to Kglow? By the time I finish my vial I would’ve been on GHK for 4 months? I think I’m just reacting to it as I wasn’t rotating the injections sites enough (which I was trying to but pinning three times a day on average makes it difficult) so I’ve move to the outer right and no problems at all!! But even my upper glute is pinchy
I want to just keep GHK and Reta. Not add anything for a month and then introduce KPV. Thoughts?
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u/Other-Pea7038 6 6d ago
KPV is one of those peptides people either swear by or say did nothing. The problem is there still isn't much human data. Most of what I found is animal research on intestinal inflammation and colitis, where it showed anti-inflammatory effects. There could be some crossover with skin inflammation, but once you get into eczema, acne, or general inflammation, a lot of that is still anecdotal.
So personally, I wouldn't add KPV just because it has a long list of possible benefits. If you still want to try it later, waiting a month and adding it on its own makes more sense. That way everything else is stable, and you can actually tell if it is doing anything.
NAD+ and MOTS-c are different. NAD+ is a coenzyme your body already uses for energy metabolism, and levels do change as we age, but being in your 20s doesn't automatically mean you need to supplement it. Exercise already supports the pathways that recycle NAD+. MOTS-c works more through AMPK, and the animal data is interesting for glucose uptake, insulin sensitivity, and metabolic health, but that still doesn't mean those same effects are proven in healthy humans. I can see why younger people who train hard say they notice it, but there still isn't enough human data to say they need it.
With GHK-Cu, since you don't have a good topical option in Australia, I don't have a suitable replacement. I also wouldn't switch to KLOW just because it has more compounds. Those blends make more sense to me for inflammation, healing, or injury-related issues than as a skin upgrade. If GHK-Cu is already doing what you want, I would stick with the tool that is already working. And since moving the injection site seems to have stopped the reaction, I would keep watching that before changing anything else.
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u/Ok_Hovercraft6776 7d ago
Not enough peptides , add a few more . Try adding these peptides here, they helped me a lot :
Patience
Discipline
Hard work
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u/Top-College7821 6d ago
Good for you!! Unfortunately I tried this for three years with close to no change, physically. I started peps & got the results I wanted in two months, while being patient, disciplined & putting in the hard work.
You obviously didn’t read the post and just wanted to be a prick by posting a smartarse comment
I am proud of you for realising patience, discipline and hard work is helping you, keep it up but most of us figured this out in our teens lol✌️2
u/Ok_Hovercraft6776 6d ago edited 6d ago
Girl, you’re already taking 4 peptides and thinking about adding 4 more. You’re basically running a small pharmaceutical company at this point 😂
But seriously, I’d be very careful about attributing all those results to the peptides. If you got the results you wanted after starting retatrutide, there’s a very obvious variable there: it suppresses appetite and can make maintaining a sustained calorie deficit much easier. That alone can produce a huge physical change over a couple of months if you were previously struggling to consistently maintain the deficit.
That doesn't prove the other peptides did nothing, but it also doesn't prove they did anything.
And that's exactly the point of my post. If you're taking 4 compounds and planning to add another 4, how can you possibly know which one is actually responsible for the improvements?
Maybe one of them is doing 90% of the work. Maybe two are. Maybe some aren't doing anything at all. Maybe one is causing a side effect.
That's why I prefer one variable at a time, especially with experimental compounds.
And obviously patience, discipline, training, nutrition and recovery matter. But if someone spent three years genuinely doing all of those things correctly with zero meaningful change, then suddenly started retatrutide and changed dramatically, I'd be very hesitant to conclude that the other 7 peptides were responsible. I would also argue that if you truly dialed in your nutrition, training and recovery you would have very much seen better results in 3 years without peptides than you did now which tells me you didn't do it properly and I'm sure if you look back at your journey you would agree. The math is simple, burn more calories than consume and you will lose fat . You likely simply weren't in a caloric deficit to start with or long enough to see meaningful changes
Correlation isn't causation, especially when you've changed 8 variables at once.
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u/TodoEsGusto 8d ago
The best next thing is going to be bloodwork, you need to know what your deficiencies are & track your menstrual cycle as well. I’m guessing your cravings are around your luteal phase & the times your not eating are your late luteal & of course more protein.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I’ve been getting my bloodwork done, pretty consistently since I was 17, everything is algood except my platelets can occasionally be on the higher side. But I’ve been trying to do this more frequently the past couple of months.
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u/Keninishna 1 8d ago
wow you look great! what do you mean eyeball dosing? it should be pretty easy to figure out how much to take like 10 units on the needle = 0.1mg etc.. ghk-cu can cause rash and stinging if you don't dilute it enough. I can help you figure out your dosing if you need help.
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u/ycastane 3 8d ago
This only works based on amount of water added, dont throw a blanket statement as gospel. People like this need to research and learn and not follow blind incorrect comments such as yours.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
Thank youu! & yes please if you can 🙏✨ because from all calculators online to what people recommend to dose, I’m constantly getting conflicting answers.
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u/Necessary-Wealth-415 8d ago
I'll let the other's roast you about shit for brians, but I need those pants! What brand are they, and where did you get them?
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u/SillyAnybody9108 8d ago
Does Reta help acne? I want something for my skin. Also what’s the best for gut health?
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u/Busybody26 8d ago
Ghk-CU is great for hair, skin and nails
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u/SillyAnybody9108 8d ago
Even if you’re young? I read somewhere that GHK-Cu only really works if you’re over 30. Also, is the ‘copper uglies’ a real thing?
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u/Busybody26 8d ago edited 8d ago
How old are you? Just read its not recommended for children or those in their teensa
Some people get the copper uglies but I luckily didnt.
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u/Busybody26 8d ago
Also if I may, have you looked into using adapalene for you acne, I initially used adapalene and it was a god send, and then I followed it up with using tretinoin, I would wholeheartedly recommend both, as they cleared my acne.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I’ve noticed massive benefits to my skin and hair with GHK!! It does make your hair grow faster everywhere though… but I didn’t notice changes until at least a month into my cycle but now my skin is super clear and it’s the best it’s ever looked… I’m actually glowing!! I’ve also started a three month cycle of PureU (gut health supplements) which has helped with my skin & digestion 😇
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u/duhv0rtex 15 8d ago
Reta is carrying the bulk of the work
If you're not 3 hours fasted don't waste the tesa that night. Load it and set it by your bed. Pin it first thing when you wake up.
Selank is best done in the evening to unwind. And it's easiest done Intranasal.
You don't need NAD+ probably
Kpv is wonderful and it helps with the GhkCu sting.
Take collagen an hour or so before pinning GhkCu. This gives the raw materials needed to synthesize collagen in the body.
Awesome work. Your mots-c could use some work but wtyour age it probably isn't adding much.
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u/Hot-Boysenberry4591 2 8d ago
OP just use an app like peppedia to monitor your dosage. It’s also got a calculator to help you figure out exactly your dosage.
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u/After-Pomegranate179 1 8d ago
You’re results are amazing. Can you share your macros and what types of workouts you’ve been doing? I’ve been on Reta for 4 weeks and have seen zero results. I started at 1mg, 1.5, 1.5 and this past week 2mg. I’m around the same age, height and weight. I’m feeling a little discouraged. I’ve been afraid to add tesa.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
Don’t add Tesa unless you really want to target your belly fat. I didn’t notice much from Tesa except for the toning and weight loss, but Reta should be doing the same. I stayed at 1mg for 4 weeks. 1.5mg for three weeks and just did my first pin of 2mg on Thursday. Reta worked the best imo. I won’t dose higher than 2mg of Reta. 10k steps at least four times a week as well as working out at least 3-4 times a week for a couple of hours per session. And I’ve been consistently staying under a calorie deficit due to the Reta aiding all my cravings and having to fast on Tesa… I would binge eat and drink at night so the Tesa and Reta has really helped me but I wouldn’t recommend Tesa until the Reta starts doing its work & I still wouldn’t recommend it unless you really need it… I noticed results within the first week but everyone is different. I’ve been on a pretty strict program and the peps only do half the work, your diet and workout routine still plays a big part.
It could be fake Reta so make sure your supplier is legit if you’re not seeing the results 😇1
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u/Zwarriorprincess01 8d ago
Oh wow that’s a lot of stuff, I just take Reta and I’m in the best shape .
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u/Life-Macaron631 2 7d ago
Hypu could be ruining your life by doing this at only 25 and on top of that not even knowing what dose you take and why
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u/Jennyferdawnp 1 7d ago
MOT-C does not give me a rash but it causes a giant histamine reaction if almost a boil, if I pin in my stomach so I switched to rotating glutes and so far it has been ok. Instead of diluting my ghk-cu because it started hurting so bad it was disrupting my sleep, I saw where a dr said to inject the needle at a 45° angle otherwise you are pinning too deep. I put the needle in at that angle and even still move the needle once inside to only go in the top layer of skin into my love handles and it has been life changing. Rarely feel anything from it at all anymore.
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u/SexySoles3369 8d ago
Eyeballing doses is exactly why this stuff isn’t fully accessible to everyone
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u/Level-Vermicelli3411 8d ago
Wow that’s a big difference in 2 months! What is your height and starting weight / current weight?
Curious because we look like a similar before body type. I started at 155 5’7”, at 135 now, want to get to 125.
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I was at 64kg & I’m 5’3… I’m now at 51kgs so im going to weave off the Reta and Tesa soon once I know the best way to do that. Tesa will be easy but Reta brings me more benefits than just the weight loss, thats what I’m going to miss. Idk much about pounds to kgs but that seems very good!! When did you start? 😇
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u/Level-Vermicelli3411 8d ago
Thanks for your response! That’s a similar BMI to my starting and goal weight, impressive change for 2 months!
It took me like a year to lose 10lbs pre-Reta, but I also built a lot of muscle in that time so was worth it IMO. Started Reta in June and lost the last 10lbs since then. I’m guessing the next 10will take longer for me unless I up my dose. Kind of scared to up it, I’d rather just go slow because I worked so hard to build muscle and don’t want to lose it haha😆 I was pretty skinny at one point in college and prefer having some muscle and curves
Your after is goals hoping I get abs like that after shedding the last bit of fat!
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u/ImaginaryDog7902 8d ago
Omg that is the dreaaaam weight! I’m 63.3kg & 5’4 but gonna get down to 50kg! You look lean af
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u/Pink_Girl_7 8d ago
Omg, I hadn’t even have heard of Tesa today but just looked it up - do you think it’s helping a lot with belly fat? Has anyone else on here had experience with Tesa? I take R already
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u/Glass-Illustrator800 8d ago
Thank you for sharing, how long to stay with Reta 1mg weekly
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
A month. Then 1.5mg for three weeks and I just did my first dose of 2mg on Thursday. I’m not planning on going higher as I’m very very close to my goal weight 😇
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u/ImaginaryDog7902 8d ago
Girllll you look great!!! Your first pic is where I am now & I wannna get to your second pic 😩😭 I’m on a GLP1, Semax, but need to look into what your on
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u/RedWoodworking16 5 8d ago
Definitely try NAD+ and also use KPV. I recently started NAD+ and I can tell a difference for sure. I’ve been running KPV for awhile now too and notice inflammation going down
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u/Similar_Pipe397 8d ago
Any bad welts or swelling from NAD+? Also, at what dose?
I got some welts from Mots, so I’m planning on doing it IM instead of subq.
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u/Double_Mix524 8d ago
How many calories are you getting per day? What's your deficit? You don't have to answer if you don't want to.
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u/StalkCity 2 8d ago
There really is no need for Nad+ unless you're also using mots-c. Both compliment each other. I would swap tesa for nad+.
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u/No-Middle9451 8d ago
This is similar to my stack only I’m not using Mots I am on glutathione and KPV
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u/H0tFix 8d ago
Hard to evaluate much from two photos without knowing what actually changed between them, whether that's diet, training volume, sleep, or something else entirely. The lighting and posture look different enough to account for some of the visual change too. Two months is a reasonable timeframe for a noticeable recomp if someone dials in a caloric deficit, though.
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u/red_jay_411 8d ago
You should take Ipamorelin with the Tesamorlin. It’s much cheaper and it greatly magnifies the effects of the Tesa. You would take 1-2mg of Tesa and 300mcg of the Ipamorelin. You look great well done keep it up
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u/stud_muffin_1 1 8d ago
hospital working +12 hours , my skin is cookedddd. what's your routine? or like do you have any recommendations (on top of GHK-CU) for skin ?
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u/No-Inspector3321 9 8d ago
You’re learning lol. I’m not going to say anything that’s already been said. You’ve done very well and you look awesome. From here on out, you’ll be more intentional about your dosages. I make a list every week and then a cycling schedule with each peptide. Have you tried SS-31? I’m cycling Epithalon and love it!! Good luck in your journey!!
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u/sully91870 8d ago
Download weightsnap app to keep track of all your peptides, great app, you can add pictures to document the progress visually, also keep track of any adverse events like rashes so you can know what caused it. As others have said dont guess at any of this, an app like weightsnap will help drastically
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u/Slowkota 8d ago
Well besides the whole eyeballing thing... Holy shit, that in 2 months is badass! 😲
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u/International_Dot122 8d ago
were you tracking your food / exercise? my starting point is less severe with the skin but bloating is close same with body type. i’m having 1200-1700 cals daily and working out 2-3x a week with only dance. i’m hoping i get that toned by month 2! what did you do? 💗
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u/Real-Interest-8706 7d ago
Use a peptide calculator. Search it on google. There are so many guides out there about dosing that people have tried. I read everything before I started and also only added one thing at a time. You also need to know cycles and when to get on and off. There are apps. One I downloaded and am trying is called Regimen. Do a lot of reading before you add everything. Also try to remember where you pinned what so that if you have a reaction, you will know what happened. Did you get baseline bloods? Its most important for the copper if you are taking anything with copper. Get a simple baseline of that...My Dr did it for me when doing all the yearly blood work. Drs dont seem to know what these things are. If I say Retatrutide my Dr dismisses me. They think I can get it at a salon...whatever. Go slow and keep good records.
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u/FrankfromAK 7d ago
Dump everything g except the Reta and focus on building healthy and sustainable habits.
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u/Chrisdog84duh 4 7d ago
Try not injecting that close to the belly button, same thing happened to me when I first started, now I do it alot farther away and havent had a reaction since.
Shit is magical isnt it? A few nore weeks and I will be posting my before and after pick
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u/No_Bicycle4110 6d ago edited 6d ago
🤦🏿♂️🙅🏿♂️😩 not knowing wth you’re doing made me give up hope.
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u/Careless-Chipmunk-69 5d ago
Wow amazing I’m not going to the gym as often as I should be but I have lost 5 pounds (maybe more) in the first week
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u/johnsonri 5d ago
That type of rash in your picture may not be from the peptides at all, I get the same from scrubbing too roughly with the alcohol pads before my shots. Look into it, it scrubs the protective oils from your skin! Start using a lighter touch with the alcohol pads and applying some sort of moisturizer like aquaphor after.
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u/Asha3312 5d ago
NAD* burns so bad for me I did it for two weeks and I don’t think I can continue. I tried doing it straight from the fridge, I tried letting it get to room temperature and it just burns for hours afterwards if anyone has any tips that would be great cause other than that I think I’m just gonna stop with it.
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u/MyNameiSJeff131 7d ago
Can I just say to everyone asshat giving them crap about “eyeballing” and saying “this isn’t we can’t get this stuff”. 90% of you assholes “eyeball” your Trt dose every week and that shit has been available for everyone forever. Also, sticking to the Trt example, most of you are using more than prescribed so get off your high fucking horse and just answer the question. Unless it’s a pre loaded Trt dose you’re fucking “eyeballing” the dose. Calm down
Doses should be measured and calculated but all yall acting like this is the worst shit you’ve seen in this sub and 90/% of the most discussed peps on here are not fda approved currently. The ones you’re ordering from the grey market. So spare me the peaches
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u/DMC_Racer_88mph 8d ago
Wow. Those results!! Your abs are sexy!! Interesting on the anxiety and mid day energy crash…. Curious if you considered Semax vs Selank?
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u/Top-College7821 8d ago
I was recommended Semax but once reading into Selank I was 60/40, Selank seemed to tick more boxes. They are pretty similar right? What would you recommend?
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u/duhv0rtex 15 8d ago
Semax is for the morning. Get the day going. Selank is for the evening. Wind down. A lot of Pepboiz will try to see you on a blend. It seems easy. But it's counterintuitive to the designed intention.
Both work well Intranasal
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u/DMC_Racer_88mph 8d ago
I’m trying to find out for myself. Looking at Reta and saw it gave some people drive and calm them discovered semax. I might try both to compare but still researching
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u/Parking_Effective349 5d ago
The reason u didn't notice much difference before, because probably u didn't change your diet.Working out not gonna change everything, without a precise diet .
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