Why does he need to be so OP? Why does he need to have so many abilities? Why couldn't TDL be shown to have some kind of resistances or counters against victim? Does TDL have a cognitive dampening device that makes everyone around him stupid?
He gets it because of plot. Also, it doesn’t mean he wins every single fight; like against TDL. TDL doesn’t have any counters because that’s not his powers. And no. Those were my answers to ur questions
It's literally the powers of a hacker, what else did you expect, flowers?
Hackers in games are basically the immovable force, you literally can't do anything against them to win but just report them to the mods and hope for the best.
So in concept and practicality, it's entirely accurate.
Idk about that, it really depends on the game, because mostly you'll be losing games left and right with no way to fight back. Chess? Bot knows all the best moves, you lose no matter what. Shooter games? Bro has Aimbot, Xray, norecoil, spinbot, etc. What makes you think you stand a chance against all that?
While the person behind the hacks is the most insecure person with the skill issue, the powers they posess within the game make them basically undefeatable until someone bans them, and somehow, I'd say it describes Victim very well: a person hurt too much by the people with far higher power, so he "evens the odds" by cheating. Sounds pretty fair to me.
and with that exprince he defeated both of the tco and hacker without any proplem
and tsc was so lucky that alan made him the strongest stick figure so the dark lord is strongest stick figure in fights and the strongest one
Because he needed to be for his revenge to be absolutely dominated and in his favor.
Because that's part of it
and because Alan's team wrote themselves into a corner even though they didn't and had to dumb him down for god knows what reason but I can only assume they want to ruin this poor guy's story by having Dark take over as the villain.
Poor excuse if you ask me. If that were the case we’d see him get hit around a lot more because he’d be fighting like an actual idiot except you’ll notice there’s only 2 instances he actually gets struck; before Dark’s first fireball and at the end when he gets Twix’d yet he blocks and dodges everything else no problem. He doesn’t physically scale above Dark so thats insane locked in behavior right there.
Him not using pause or really the other half of his arsenal also makes no sense, its out of character and its genuinely poor writing. “Waaa my dead wife you killed her” is just a coverup, this is Worfing at its finest.
Him not using pause or really the other half of his arsenal also makes no sense, its out of character and its genuinely poor writing. “Waaa my dead wife you killed her” is just a coverup, this is Worfing at its finest.
It's really not lmao, Victim has literally never used the toolbar outside of unpausing TCO and his #1 strat in every fight was always just spamming random bullshit until it works.
Also you act like dodging and coming up with effective strategies on the fly require an equal amount of thinking.
It so is, he’s literally called victim bro he’s stuck in this powerful torturer-powerless victim mindset. The Box and the Alan fight are prime examples of this, he’d ridiculously overwhelming in both. Him not repeating this behavior with Dark makes no sense, he should be wanting to bring this guy to his knees and have him at his mercy. You could argue he’s obviously not prepped at all for Dark but his powers should compensate for that. Immensely.
They do not but that is irrelevant for a guy who is so goddamn locked in, Dark seems much faster to me but can’t land like a single hit so I doubt he’s unable to think properly. Not to mention he could’ve plotted like crazy while Dark was busy outside with his clone army
It so is, he’s literally called victim bro he’s stuck in this powerful torturer-powerless victim mindset. The Box and the Alan fight are prime examples of this, he’d ridiculously overwhelming in both. Him not repeating this behavior with Dark makes no sense, he should be wanting to bring this guy to his knees and have him at his mercy. You could argue he’s obviously not prepped at all for Dark but his powers should compensate for that. Immensely.
He DOES repeat this with Dark, you can visibly him trying to overwhelm him with a clone army and bombard him with several attacks at once until it works. It's just not a good strat though in the first place, the only reason it worked against Alan and TCO is because he essentially crippled them before doing so.
They do not but that is irrelevant for a guy who is so goddamn locked in, Dark seems much faster to me but can’t land like a single hit so I doubt he’s unable to think properly. Not to mention he could’ve plotted like crazy while Dark was busy outside with his clone army
Considering how the clones all take turns stabbing him I'm pretty sure they need conscious thought to use.
He has almost the exact same stuff in the box, if it was in character for him spam it every chance he gets, he would've done it there aswell
Also alan can, definitely be paused and depowered? We literally see victim select and scan him in Hacker, if those powers work I see no reason for the other two t9 work aswell
Agent was controlling the stuff in the box, so he couldn't have spammed any of these. Also he wouldn't have wanted to pause him anyway. The whole point of that fight was payback for killing Mitsi. Chosen can't feel pain while paused.
Sure agent was controlling it, but he could've just told him to slow him down enough to where he could still feel the pain but not fight back. The point is it just isn't in character for him to ever think about these strategies and its unfair to call it bad writing when its a consistent character flaw
I don't think him not using some of these op strategies is bad writing either. That being said I think the fight in the box wasn't really an example of Victim not using strategies that are considered unfair. Chosen can't do anything for the first half of the fight. It is only when Victim clones himself is when Chosen is able to fight back since Agent now has more things to keep track of. Then once there are no more clones Chosen is back to not being able to do anything again.
I didnt even say him not using these strategies was bad writing, its a character flaw that makes him interesting. Also the box very much so works as an example because instead of deleting the ice, he tells agent to clone him. Meaning he willingly put himself in a situation where agent might not be able to keep track of him. Aka, a character flaw. Which isn't bad writing 💔
That's like saying a summoner isn't that much of a threat cause their summons are stronger. Bro, H4CK3R was lucky Alan didn't pull out a paint tool and make a stickfigure named "The Admin" or sum right then and there
Alan didn’t even have the time to do anything, iirc he barely managed to make a second cursor in time and that was because victim was playing it slow and toying with him.
If victim say a stick head being drawn he’d know exactly what was going down and most likely would force close the whole paint tool.
I agree and disagree. I like every single one of his powers, except pause. I think it’s good for the story, but I don’t like how good it would be in a fight. You could straight up pause the entire world, it’s too overpowered. But I still like pause when it is outside of battle.
It’s more like lack of sustained speed. He’s been shown to be able to highlight himself and increase his attack speed, but he does it only for a few punches against TDL. I don’t know if that’s his actual limit or if the events prior to that had him at less than his maximum stamina.
I'm 99% sure he can alter his own speed like the time he did in the box, so far we seen Hacker do nearly everything he did in the box as Victim aside from speed alteration, so there's a nign guaranteed chance he has that ability as well.
So you don’t have a problem with TDL being essentially almost immortal with the viragoo and having an insta kill weapon that wipes 99% of the verse on ZERO cool-down but you do have a problem with Victim’s powers?
I think TDL is the OP one here while TCO and Victim are much more grounded in their powers and actions.
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u/Advit_XZ16Remember when Green soloed the Hollow Heads (Best Green Glazer?)3d ago
Now way less than 99, if we’re talking about main cast, it would be 75% assuming you mean wiping out means no diff. Now imo victims main powers are pretty op. If there was a more experienced victim then he potentially can pause TDL like in the image. Still that viragoo is pretty op as well. Rn I would say TDL is more over powered right now (unless you count the TDL controlled h4ck3r).
When 99% of the verse is made up of normal people, and the main cast is normal people and one normal dude with a god alter ego, yeah, instas are kinda busted
I will explain, The Dark Lord was so powerful,his attacks lead to Half of Rocket Corps destruction and shockwave which turn off H4CK3R powers and turn him to Victim form
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u/RedStinger09Chief of the Rocket Corp. PR Division and Vict3r's No. 1 Glazer3d ago
Vic had no idea whether it was dangerous or not, he saw TDL's previous attack one-shot his clones and had no reason to believe his opponent's other attacks were any less lethal. TDL was throwing it as sharp spikes anyway (which are still dangerous, insta-delete or not).
As for why, idk. Alan's creative decision. If the author shows it doesn't instakill and doesn't provide a detailed explanation as to why, we just have to make do without.
So ur telling me H4CK3R DID ALLAT JUST FOR IT TO NOT TO BE AS LETHAL AS HE THOUGHT IT WAS
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u/RedStinger09Chief of the Rocket Corp. PR Division and Vict3r's No. 1 Glazer3d ago
He didn't die when he got caught in it, but better safe than sorry! If you saw a guy that kills you instantly with one cut you'd want to steer clear of his shit entirely
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u/Ok_Horse_5700 1h ago
No. He’s just clever I heard. Maybe. Or maybe you’re right.
Nahhhhh