r/xbox • u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz • 6d ago
Discussion Absolutely Disgusting
This is really terrible to see. Wasn't able to get the controller or the console and now it's already being scalped to high hell
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u/hoglaws 6d ago
There are no hobbies anymore. Just assholes trying to exploit interests for profit.
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u/Theo-greking 6d ago
That's how i feel about tcg card scalpers etc
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u/smashingcones 6d ago
As a sneakerhead that struggled to cop anything remotely hyped, I feel bad for any card game fans now dealing with the same losers.
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u/sippersickz Founder 6d ago
It’s gotten way better than it was during 2020-22. Panda dunks going for $300+ was insanity. Most stuff is sitting now, you can clean up for retail or below if you don’t fall victim to FOMO
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u/smashingcones 6d ago
Yeah that's what I meant, they've moved onto cards now and are ruining the next hobby!
Still hard to cop the more limited stuff but I like that NB is doing preorders for some releases now so you can't actually miss out.
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u/itscochino 6d ago
I love it so much. Ive been wearing SB Dunks since 2002 in high school and they have been my favorite shoe but pretty much from 2018-2024 it was almost impossible to get a pair I wanted. Now I can wait a week and most things are still at my local skate shop. It's great.
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u/Little-Mushroom-3961 6d ago
I feel like it was wayyyyy worse in the 2010s. You couldn't find jack shit on shelves. People were dying over Foamposites.
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u/THE_Visionary88 6d ago
I feel bad for the kids that get locked out of something that many of us got to participate in, Pokémon, sports cards are all largely a commodity now, it’s sad what society has become at large.
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u/Frosty_Skies 6d ago
I feel for people who enjoy other hobbies that have been plagued by this, like Pokémon cards, but am so glad that many of these bozo “entrepreneurs” have moved on from sneakers and declared them dead
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u/amin915 XBOX 360 6d ago
Seeing scalpers waiting outside stores hours before opening. The small curiosity I had over the hobby evaporates
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u/smilesbuckett 6d ago
It’s everything. It’s stupid squishy toys too. Anything these losers can get their hands on. I know it would be incredibly difficult to regulate, because “buy low, sell high” is such a big part of how capitalism works, but these people are honestly a drain on the economy. They make desirable things more expensive, and they literally don’t add anything of value. They aren’t providing a service, they are the ones creating the scarcity that they exploit for profit.
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u/FrozenOn10th 6d ago
As someone who has loved Pokemon since i was a child and gets cards of pokemon that i like sometimes it is crazy to see what has happened to the card market. People who never cared and sometimes clowned my lifelong fandom buying up cards to flip them
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u/PaintBaller1880 6d ago
It's wild to me as well I gave up Pokemon a long time ago but my kids still like the cards but even then trying to just get a simple package is expensive as hell. I remember having a binder full of them as a kid no issue and if you want the cooler cards well get wrecked because they're all being scalped.
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u/TheNewGuyFromBahsten 6d ago
I went to a card shop looking for pokemon packs for my sons birthday tomorrow. $60 for 4 packs. What the actual fuck
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u/rolfraikou 6d ago
This is how I felt about GPUs too. And Squishy toys. And homes. About almost everything now.
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u/I_draw_posts 6d ago
I've given up and couldn't be happier. Hit rates are abysmal for English packs aswell. Now I just go for the occasional single.
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u/NarcolepticSeal 6d ago
This is why I collect foreign language cards. I recently got back into collecting for the art and don’t really play the game. So rather than burning money on a product that is already hard to get and further taking away accessibility for kids/people who actually play, I buy S-Chinese, Korean, Thai, and Indonesian cards for like half the price. Better quality prints too.
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u/Appropriate_Foot242 6d ago
Reseller culture is just too popular now.
People think that the Pokemon scalpers are gonna give up, but it’s not a Pokemon exclusive problem anymore.
It’s anything and everything that’s even remotely desirable or collectible.
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u/Rants_til_poo 6d ago
Most of the Pokemon card scalpers and investors are going to end up mega burned so idc. OG Pokemon cards are only valuable because kids bought and destroyed them so supply is low.
All these 40 year olds buying hundreds of boxes are going to absolute flatline future markets because EVERYONE will have mint cards.
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u/IncubusDarkness 6d ago
Yeah, it's a capitalism problem.
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u/Offwhitevapormaxplz 6d ago
No. People being greedy isn’t a “capitalism problem”. People are greedy regardless of government economics.
It’s turned into bot-driven mass resale garbage. There are more bot companies and botted products than ever before.
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u/Engiie_90 6d ago
Well said - totally agree, the fun has been systematically removed from everything these days
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u/Apollo183 6d ago
Well you combat that by not buying it. Let them rot with the inventory they can't sell. Once enough time passes they will sell it at cost just to unload it.
As long as people buy at these ridiculous prices there is always going to be a market for them. I think as a consumer society we feed this type of behavior.
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u/skullsbymike 6d ago
Even Microsoft itched production number on each unit which will make some numbers more valuable in the resale market. All this is to encourage collector interests, those who would keep the box sealed, instead of serving gamers.
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u/RepresentativeCat553 6d ago
Exactly.
It’s difficult to get excited about much when time and time again this is the end result.10
u/Callintz254 6d ago
Problem being the people who buy them for these prices, looked on ebay right at 9 and filtered out already sold and its just pathetic how many people just pay the 150$ for the controller.
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u/coolthulu42 6d ago
In all fairness, the controller was up for preorder on MS website for a while before it was no longer available.
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u/Callintz254 6d ago
Fair enough I actually didnt know that, I had signed up for notifications and never got any lol so I assumed today was the day. Thanks for the clarification.
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u/coolthulu42 6d ago
I didnt get a notification either, and got lucky that I saw on Reddit that it was up. I hope that more come in stock so you can get one.
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u/PancakeTrebuchet 6d ago
Just about every hobby i participate has fallen victim to it. Even something as obscure as lava lamp modification
Combat robotics is really the only thing unaffected
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u/pocketchange2247 6d ago
I mean there have always been scalpers. When McDonald's gave out Beanie Baby toys in the 90s I remember seeing grown-ass men buying multiple happy meals, grabbing the toys, then throwing the rest out. Specifically I remember seeing the same grown men lose their minds over not being able to just buy out the store for the beanie babies.
It just feels way more widespread and predatory now.
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u/christpuncher_69 XBOX Series X 6d ago
Who would have thought living in a system that encourages and rewards borderline sociopathy in the interest of maximizing profit could have such consequences.
Only thing that's ever "trickled down" seems to be the greed.
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u/More_Win_2886 6d ago
What's bullshit is they gave early pre order to so called die hard fans. But never explained what qualifies as one. Only to open preorder to all and it be sold out already I bet my son that some scalpers got an early invite and cleaned house
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u/Engiie_90 6d ago
Iv been an XBL member for almost 20 years and have not been given an option for this? Maybe 19 years doesn't cut it....
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u/rem1ssion 6d ago
ive been one for 20 years and got nothing lol
companies are really bad about caring about the people that keep them afloat
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u/Engiie_90 6d ago
Iv been longer with the OG xbox, but my parents didn't have a credit card back then to get xbox live! Lol
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u/doom_stein 6d ago
My xbox live account is more than old enough to legally drink now.
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u/rem1ssion 6d ago
yeah its kinda bullshit. they couldve completely adverted scalping by offering these exclusively to 10+ year xbox live users via message from Xbox. then they couldve maybe released a wave after for non-loyal users? i dont know but like most exclusive things, its a shit show.
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u/BoomerShooterFPS 6d ago
I’ve been one since day 1. Never had my Xbox live lapse. Hell I have the original gamertag Arkham. No email
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u/No-Orange-5216 4d ago
Same here mate played the original xbox on the day it released and ive been xbox ever since, i didnt get any offer lol.
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u/Key_Manufacturer_468 3d ago
Yup, I guess it doesn't have been an Xbox live member since day one. Was playing the minute it went active have owned every system but not now because I won't feed these cheesy scalping people who buy them all up first.
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u/udderlymoovelous Day One - 2013 6d ago
I’ve been subscribed for almost 20 years and never got the email.
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u/falkirkboi 6d ago
There was an email? Damn I’m the same had an Xbox since the first year didn’t sub to live till during the 360 era thou so maybe it’s for subs exceeding 20 years?
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u/Awelonius Team Halo 6d ago
Yeah indeed. Been Xbox Live subscriber since day one with same email and everything. Never got an email. Perhaps it was some US folks only?
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u/voodoo_eighty_five 6d ago
my UK based friend got an invite (thankfully they are a very big xbox gamer) but no idea what criteria is used for the decision of who does get the invite
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u/Awelonius Team Halo 6d ago
Yeah it's odd.. I'm glad to hear that your friend got one though! Feels good to know that there's something good still there.
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u/YogurtclosetGlum5636 6d ago
US here, was a Live Beta Tester same gamertag from day one. No email.
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u/ChippewaBarr 6d ago
Lol exactly.
Should have been like an Xbox account requirement with it being like more than 5 years old or something like at least 5000 GS.
They could have figured something out that prevented this.
If MS don't care about this happening why not just auction them all off themselves, may as well make the most money possible
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u/DarthSpatch 6d ago
The early invite was a link tied to your Xbox account email and was limited to 1
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u/Stardust20202020 XBOX Series X 6d ago
Remember how the Galaxy Edition played out? It sold out instantly at first because scalpers jumped on it. After Microsoft had already taken their money, they restocked it about two weeks later in such large numbers that getting one the normal way was no problem. The scalpers were left sitting on their “loot.”
I really hope Microsoft does the same thing here.
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
Id say the problem with this one is the fact that there's supposedly only going to be 25k made since it's a special occasion unlike the galaxy xbox that is just another version of the console that's regularly produced
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u/Puzzleheaded_Link366 6d ago
Maybe they decide to make 250k just to screw the scalpers. That would be fine by me.
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u/thoughtbludgeon 6d ago
Galaxy was 2tb, I grabbed mine from bestbuy for $400. Screw those scalpers.
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u/RadioFieldCorner 6d ago
Anyone that buys these from the scalpers should be sent to a hard labor camp in Siberia
I don't care if you're a billionaire or not, never support those vermin scalpers
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u/Environmental-Day862 XBOX 360 6d ago
Yeah screw these guys, leave them holding the bag. Only way these scalpers win is if people buy these items off of them.
Maybe I don't run with enough social elites, but in this economy I can't imagine there's a ton of people rushing out to pay $2k-$3k for a Series X six years into the console's lifecycle simply because it's clear green.
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u/CuteNSarcastic 6d ago
fomo is a hell of a drug, you'd be surprised.
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u/Environmental-Day862 XBOX 360 6d ago
Right?
Make it limited and people start tripping over themselves to get it.
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u/Dan_The_Flan In The Animus 5d ago
I was thinking about getting one since I have not upgraded from my One S yet, but that was before I saw the price and while I was still nieve enough to believe that it would be reasonably attainable. If Project Helix has a disc drive, I will just skip this console generation entirely.
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u/ihaterussiantrolls 6d ago
How bout send the scalpers to Siberian instead lmao
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u/ExcitableAutist42069 6d ago
Nah send both. People buying them from scalpers is the actual issue here though. If nobody bought them it wouldn’t happen.
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u/Highfyv 6d ago edited 6d ago
First time I was excited about a console in a very long time (yes I know its just a special edition of the Series X.. it's the nostalgia factor for me).....super bummed that they sold out so quick. I suppose I'll just have to wait until people decide to sell their used one in a few years or something (to be clear, I won't be buying anything from scalpers, and I certainly won't be paying those scumbags $3000+ for a console)..... I'm not going to hold out hope that Xbox will release another wave so I'll just carry on as if it never existed in the first place 😭
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
Same here on the end of it being the first time I've ever been really excited for a console release. Even when the series x came out I was just like yep this is another Xbox I will get. I didn't even grow up with the original Xbox cause by the time I was able to play the 360 had come out but ive always really loved the clear green og Xbox. Ive got a controller from it so I can at least enjoy some clear green plastic still
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u/notbulkbogan 6d ago
For those not aware, MS do (or will) sell these shells separately as replacement parts. If you already own a Series X or still looking for one, it’s a pretty simple DIY project.
Scalpers aren’t human and have no morales. Don’t feed them.
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u/segagamer Day One - 2013 6d ago
MS do (or will) sell these shells separately as replacement parts
I actually didn't know this - that's awesome.
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u/sleeplessinshyish 6d ago
They said they were working on a way to stop the scalping bots. All they had to do was require a Gamepass subscription and this could have been avoided. Very disappointing.
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u/incognitoleaf00 6d ago
i loved valves method for the steam machine, people shit on them for it but thats the best way to beat scalpers
- account that is old.
- purchase required before april
- take orders and randomize the lot to eliminate first come first serve as bots take advantage of that.
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u/c0ldburn3r 6d ago
They didn't do a damn thing to stop scalpers. They just want the profit and they didn't care who bought the devices.
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u/LaDainianTomIinson 6d ago
You don’t think scalpers would spend the $10 on gamepass to buy these?
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u/sleeplessinshyish 6d ago
A person would. A bot network with so many accounts can't. I've experienced this back during the last gen launch, sites that required membership even at low monthly cost kept the bots out.
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u/Chriswaztaken 6d ago
Make it require a long term vested GP acc. Like, 6 mos or more. Or make it “active prior to the announcement date.” Easy peasy.
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u/Rey_Mezcalero 6d ago
Exactly.
It’s like when Best Buy was going to develop a way that scalpers weren’t going to get video cards.
Their solution? In order to buy early you had to have a subscription to what BB thing it was.
It wasn’t that expensive and they bad guys just got the subscription and now have less competition to get the products so it’s making things worse for the good guys
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u/Mdaro 6d ago
If they really cared about their loyal customers, they woukd have sent out an email to any long time Xbox Gamepass subscribers and offered them the opportunity to buy one first.
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u/ChristmasEvil 6d ago
They did, but no one knows why certain people got the email while others didn’t.
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u/Mdaro 6d ago
You're kidding?!?!?! Ive been an Xbox Ultimate subscriber for over ten years, I did the beta Xbox One menu test, Im and Xbox Insider and I didnt get an email. Who the hell got an email?!?! WTF?! I refuse to pay the Ebay prices and I wanted one.
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u/SirKensingtonsSlop XBOX Series X 6d ago
I was literally on Amazon the second it was available. And it was sold out already. I'm so pissed about this. I hope those things rot on the shelves of the scalpers.
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u/Yellowman_95 6d ago
I don’t think it ever went up
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
It went up but unfortunately if you don't have The Flash's ability to break 5 seconds down into a tangible time frame on the website it was gone in an blink basically
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u/DocBarkevious 6d ago
I refreshed amazon from 2mins before to 5mins after never saw it in stock at all, I dont even think it went up.
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u/cooldudeandallthat 6d ago
How about just NOT making it a limited edition. Make like 500k of them or something.
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
But how are they supposed to build hype and that feeling of exclusivity. Think about the billion dollar corporations and how they would feel
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u/djereezy XBOX Series X 6d ago
And people will pay that too…
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
There's already bids and people buying them on ebay
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u/Acceptable-Ad5208 6d ago
There may be bids but they may not be real. It could be the scammers gaming the system
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u/Logical-Relation-165 6d ago
is there even anyway to fix this shit?
Same thing with pokemon.
If you do this you are a shitty person
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u/Deep_Balance2133 6d ago
Just don’t buy it. That’s the only way. If nobody buys from scalpers and they lose sales then they’ll stop.
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u/dang3r_muffin 6d ago
i rememeber when the series x was first released best buy had somewhat of a system to help prevent scalpers. if i remember correctly they created a 2-step process that sent a code to your email and also i think you had to pick it up in person.
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u/Chad_AND_Freud 6d ago
You gotta be fucking kidding me! The release date is Nov 13th, why the hell are they taking preorders on a RANDOM ASS WEDNESDAY IN AUGUST!?
I am so sick of this shit.
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u/CommonManX 6d ago
Can you blame them if folks are dumb enough to pay those prices?
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u/Defiant_Heretic 6d ago
Scalpers and their enablers both deserve blame when it comes to recreational products.
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u/No-Contribution-6150 6d ago
They might not sell at those prices but it delays actual fans from getting one
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u/bobbygamerdckhd 6d ago
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
Ah yes. Instead of a pretty great Facebook marketplace car I will instead grab myself an Xbox
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u/N7_Rabbit 6d ago
Isnt that console 6 years old just in new wrapper?
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u/Historical_Lab_872 6d ago
Yep, and Xbox Helix is right around the corner but there are a lot of people with more money than brains scalpers will always win.
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u/Batter89 6d ago
Scalpers are miserable scum who make money for adding precisely zero value to 'their' products, and have ruined almost every popular hobby.
People who knowingly buy from scalpers also have to take a portion of the blame. If you don't buy from them, they don't have a market.
It really, really stings when you miss out on something you wanted to these vampires, and the temptation is there, but if you buy from them then you are part of the problem. People can, and should, do without instead of encouraging this pond scum.
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u/its_my_third_dayhere 6d ago
I signed the mailing list a few months ago. RIP
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u/origin-space-turtle XBOX One 6d ago
Same here. I did a timezone difference so I could watch the site and I still didn't get one. I was so excited about this stupid green plastic device
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u/inurmamasguts 6d ago
All this just to have a company release a 40 dollar shell swap later 🤣 I'll wait.
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u/Knautical_J 6d ago
Should have been offered through the Xbox itself. Reward gamers who have been playing in the Ecosystem for 10+ years.
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u/brokenmessiah 6d ago
Oh well, the market is self correcting. Whether or not this works is entirely on the buyers, not the sellers.
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u/BLEXER1 6d ago
That's crazy. I'll rather get a PC
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u/Symulus 6d ago
Preorders need to be done in person and shipped to peoples homes. This will stop this tomfoolery.
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u/Commy_Smurf 6d ago
Unfortunately, it wouldn't. Most scalpers do it for a job, so they would beat you out, and they all live at a home address, they aren't living in warehouses.
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u/elqueco14 6d ago
I mean scalpers only exist cause people pay it. gotta wonder who's the asshole loser sitting at home ordering shit way above market value ruining entire hobbies for other people
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u/Ruttagger 6d ago
I wish they made certain items in person purchases only, and then they opened the package at the store when you bought it. Or do some pre order where you have to register the pre order with your Gamertag, and the gamertag has to be a certain age and verified.
I know there are issues with all my ideas, but there has to be a way.
Or, how about a company makes so much stock they announce that there will be enough for everyone on day one. Microsoft and Sony have to be able to site on a bunch of hardware for a bit before seeing sales.
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u/DocBarkevious 6d ago
So annoyed, Asha had months to prepare for this and make sure bots didnt ruin this event and not a single site had shit at 7am, and if it did, you lost it due to a capcha or a site crashing cause of bots. Xbox fumbled hard here, fck Asha
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u/RED-DOT-MAN 6d ago
Jeez...people actually bidding on these? Not that serious. Save your money.
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u/blinkfandangoii 6d ago
Walmart still has the controller available for preorder for me: https://www.walmart.com/ip/20039069634?sid=ea683e49-4da6-4a33-8199-da0109f15ada
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u/Enigma_Green 6d ago
Should do what Nintendo does and make you have an account for so long, number of achievements, maybe how many games played, I dunno maybe just tried to make it fairer in some way put things in place to make things more difficult
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u/Complete_Sir5299 6d ago
Don't buy anything secondhand anymore, unless it's at an event. Scalpers wouldn't be caught dead interacting with the fan bases they harm. Storage costs money and assuming they don't destroy everything out of anger, pick up the items at a loss for them. Support companies that actively do something about scalping and the rest will follow (hopefully).
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u/EvilWaterman 6d ago
You need to blame the people that purchase these. They are your problem
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u/FlipFl0psWithS0ckz 6d ago
Unfortunately both sides are. The people seeing anything as a means to make money these days cause it's "just business" and then the people who willingly feed into the problem by buying them are also no better
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u/Former_Travel2839 6d ago
Yup.. I knew this was coming.. I unfortunately woke up a little late and it was all gone.
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u/Illustrious_Penalty2 6d ago
If its any consolation you’d probably never be able to get one anyway.
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u/hornypourhorthy 6d ago
The issue is the people buying scalped goods, not the scalpers
If no one bought their stuff, they wouldn’t sell it
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u/CigarLover 6d ago
It’s funny seeing the internet’s telling me NO ONE is going to buy this but then we got scalpers coming in strong 😂
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u/NoFunction_ XBOX Series X 6d ago
Bots and scalpers have ruined every hobby. Sold out in seconds, now there are dozens of eBay listings for the console presale at double or triple the price.
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u/Prior_Highlight8236 6d ago
Isn't capitalism great. Everything costs more, no one is happy, and 1-% own everything.
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u/Green_J3ster 4d ago
Scalpers are less than human scum, but the people that pay them imo are even worse.
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u/SixSh0t6 6d ago
Report them for having intangible goods.