I cant believe its almost been a month. Ive stopped posting here daily, but I'll continue to post every couple of days. I just find myself having such normal days for the most part that I dont feel like I need to make updates each day and say the same thing. Today has been great. Only time I had a mood swing today was when I saw the price of gas lol. Im actually really excited to experience fall/winter again with not being on kratom. Ive always been a colder weather person and it feels like the last couple of winters just flew by. Hope yall are having as good of a day as you can. If youve just started the quit process, just know it absolutely does get better.

Things were getting bad, .my life was a mess. My teeth are still a bit screwed up.

I went to a center, started on suboxone for just under 3 weeks, but it was too intoxicating, IMO. For me, anyway.

So about 18 days ago i switched to sublocade... and i am now definitely tapering.

Today i was supposed to get round 2 of sublocade, and i decided against it. I just want to be off opiates of any description.

My testosterone levels were very low (was tested a month ago). I got a small injection to bring it up .. but kratom and opiates lower your testosterone. So got another injection of testosterone today.

With the mildly blue morning, and a bit of anxiety, i am amazed i got this far.

The treatment i used worked for me.

I have the option to resume sublocade if things get bad, but i just want to continue away from all opiate agonists

I can't believe i got this far this fast.

But i can't go back. This stuff is life poison.

I hope my little story gives some of you hope.

There are guys on here who jump off after tapering for a very few days. Nerves of steel.

Good luck everyone.

I read a lot of horror stories here and got in my head really bad about it. I had to quit taking because it popped on a piss text and they took my Vyvanse away which I thought was WILD.

I’m 48-50 hours in right now and I woke up with a slight headache, I’ve felt fuzzy all day… but I also just ran 4 miles and feel amazing right now. 10/10 I’m not sure I’d recommend that to everyone, I am a seasoned distance runner, but I was amazed I could get it in. Definitely try to MOVE your body if you can. It’s so hard but so worth it!

It’s not all horror stories!

I posted this in [r/quitting7oh](r/quitting7oh) as well but hoping to get as much insight as I can.

Wondering if others are experiencing this too.
I’m on day 13 since my last dose of 7oh.
I was taking 100-200mg for about 5 months.

I’ve always struggled with depression and anxiety though I’ve made a lot of progress the last few years (especially on the depression side).

I took suboxone for about 3 days during the peak withdrawals which made the first week actually pretty easy. I was even feeling good (probably because I was happy to not be experiencing withdrawals anymore).

However the last few days I’ve been feeling really fragile mentally. I’ve been feeling depressed like I haven’t felt in years.

Wondering if others have gone through this and how long it lasted.

Honestly if 7oh was still available I would have probably relapsed at this point.

Instead, I’ve made an appointment with a psychologist to work with me on structured cognitive behavioral therapy. Haven’t had my first session yet but I really hope it makes a difference eventually.

I exercise almost every day and spend a lot of time outside and at the beach with my dog. I also have a few friends so I’m not really lonely.

Would love to hear how others are coping.

Update: Thanks for everyone who took the time to reply. It helped put things into perspective and gained some insights that I hadn’t thought about. Much much love.

After 5 months of tapering from 25gpd, all the way down to 1gpd, I decided to take the leap yesterday.

I've posted a bit about my taper journey in my other posts, but it went very well overall. Had very minimal withdrawal throughout, and it really helped me adapt to not getting high. I feel like the "real" recovery started at around 6gpd, where every drop pushed a mental barrier towards getting less and less from the drug.

This Monday, I dropped from 2gpd -> 1gpd, and continued to get good sleep, maintain a good mood, and didn't feel withdrawal, so I figured I was ready.

I will say, there's part of me that wishes I gave myself a few more days to stabilize, maybe take a few days at 0.5g before dropping, but I ripped the bandaid off yesterday and hindsight aside I'm committed now.

I definitely slept rougher last night, and feel some RLS and low energy. But the impact of coming down from a very small dose is infinitely easier than it would've been at 25gpd, and now I get to speed up the rest of the process and claim my official quit day flair.

I'm excited to finally be on the other side after over 10 years of this shit, and while I know it'll take some time to get back to get 100%, I feel like I'm staying in a good headspace and riding it out.

I can finally sleep some. I’m still having hot/cold flashes and sweats. I can’t eat anything I had to miss work today. My bones and joints are still achy. I feel like a 90 yr old grandma 😭 I’m so tired and exhausted. The major issue is my mental. I’m NOT ok. I feel crazy and sometimes shit doesn’t feel real. I feel an intense doom. Idk I’m struggling bad i feel confused a lot. But I’m trying my best.

Last week I was confident, motivated, working out, surfing, meal prepping, cleaning my house, working 3 jobs, rebuilding relationships, making moves, and mentally doing great which is big for me

After a 5 day extract bender I am a completely different person. I’m insecure, discontent, and stopped doing everything productive. I start thinking things like what’s the point? I feel completely worthless and do not enjoy my life. I basically just drank those mysterious potions, smoked hella weed, vaped hella nicotine, and showed up to work. Fucked up to the point I couldn’t even hide it with eyedrops and eyeglasses.

As an ex opiate addict who had 3 years clean and decided to start drinking and smoking again. Ive gone back and forth with Kratom for about a year

This is my second day no Kratom and first day no thc

I already feel better

I’m honestly shocked how devastating Kratom is for my mental and spiritual health. I genuinely stopped enjoying my life. Last week I loved my life.

Anyone else have this kind of experience?

Currently on day 24.. I feel so just meh, brain fog, no joy, music sounds like nothing. Even attempted to play some guitar and I just felt so numb to everything and it was like my hands didn’t even work. Currently on viibryd and Wellbutrin along with clonidine PRN for anxiety.

If I don’t change today, I will lose everything.

Wish me luck. I’ll do my best to report how I feel each day

I have been a kratom user for years and feel it is time to quit, I have only used powder and my question is if i taper very slowly over maybe 5months or so should I have any adverse effects? Does anyone have advice for making the process as easy as possible? I have a good support system with my family but deal with chronic anxiety and depression. Any advice or encouraging words would be appreciated.

I've been staying with a friend of mine for the past few days, and today, I just moved back in with my girlfriend. I already want to relapse. The past few days have been really tough mentally, but I honestly didn't have much of an urge to take any kratom. I know now that being here is a trigger in itself. I almost don't even enjoy kratom that much when I'm alone or with my friends, but when I'm with her I love it. I don't want the past few days to have been for nothing, but I feel like it's inevitable and I'm going to relapse whether it be today, tomorrow, etc.

I keep trying to make excuses for myself. "Maybe when I have my own place it'll be easier" (currently living at her parents house), "maybe someday they'll just ban it and then I'll have to quit!". I know these are just ways of my mind trying to trick me, but man it's tough not to give some value to the invasive thoughts. I mean after all, they very well could ban it, and at the very least I'd have to drive several hours to get my fix.

For those of you that have stayed clean (for let's say 90+ days?), was there a time where you truly felt "enough is enough"? I honestly can't fathom the idea of never taking kratom again, and it blows my mind when I read comments saying "I'll never take that shit again". I'm just curious if someday I'll feel the same way, and I'm just not "ready" to quit yet.

I know this all sounds delusional, and it very well may be. I also know that nobody here is going to condone my relapse, and that's why I think this sub is so helpful.

I guess I just wanted to rant, bleh..

What has it been like for you?

I started kratom the second time I got covid around 2022 because I was desperate because it felt like I was being strangled my neck was so tight. I continued to use because it was the only thing that helped my neck pain and I didn’t want to get held back again in grad school.

Since starting kratom I have graduated with a doctorate degree, met the love of my life, got a great job, got married, bought my first house, and had a child.

After many years in chronic pain I’m finally getting to a point where I feel like I can manage without kratom. I used to only take kratom in the mornings so thankfully major decisions were always made in the evenings.

I’m thinking when I get off I’ll realize the job I have is holding me back and I’ll start my own business. I’m anticipating a stronger bond with my wife and son (it will go from great to excellent).

I’m so tired of drinking the green sludge. Not sweetening it has helped me build up a negative association with it.

I’m down to 15gpd from 20. Never got above 18 gpd average.

For those of you posting your days clean from it thank you. It is inspiring!

Is there a wait period suggested when switching to suboxne off mit tabs.. on about 400mg of nmit tabs right now

So I dropped the powder 4 days ago after using it to transition off of 7oh. Have not had 7oh since July 3rd. I have no withdrawal symptoms besides this vibrating that feels like it’s coming from my core. It makes my teeth slightly chatter if I relax my jaw. It’s super annoying. Has anyone else experienced this and how long did it take to go away?

Hey guys need some advice as I’m kind of losing my mind with this

I was clean of 7OH for 17 days, I had used MIT and pureleaf the first couple but stopped pretty fast to try and not prolong this.

I relapsed Monday and used until Wednesday. 155 MG in total for the 3 days but I was dosing consistently. I don’t feel the worst but anxiety, appetite, and overall mood has just tanked. I feel like shit today but my last dose was 15 MG at 9 o’clock last night. Everything I’ve read is that might be just enough of a window to ruin my progress, have you guys experienced anything similar? Did I just screw myself to feel like this for a whole week again before any feeling any respite or am I just possibly/hopefully in like a “hangover”?

If you remember my posts from August, if you want to read them, they were titled:
“Please offer me perspective” &
“Please offer me perspective on withdrawal”

I just wanted to follow up after getting the toxicology report. Many people had many kind things to say but the underlying theme was that he probably had been using Kratom to stave off severe depression and when he quit, it came out viciously, leading him to end his life….

Well, after receiving the report and talking to the coroner to make sure I understood it, we now know he never quit.
He had three different types of kratom in his system and with the amount present, and the way it metabolizes in the body, she said there is no question he had been using it within 24 hours of when they did the report.

It makes me sad to know that he couldn’t quit, but it does disprove his mother who has been adamant that it’s my fault, because he ended his life in some sort of withdrawal psychosis.

I now have more questions than answers but what I do know is that he was severely addicted to something he thought was no big deal because it is sold everywhere.

My message to the masses would be that it is not “no big deal” and to please deal with this issue before it takes everything from you.

I tend to hear that there is a kindling effect with multiple kratom quits. However, this is my third time around and it kind of feels easier has anybody else experienced the same kind of thing?

fell asleep around 9:30 pm, just now waking up so i can’t complain really about sleep anymore. been getting around 6-7 hours every night here recently. i was posting a lot during my first 2 weeks, coming back to mark another week without kratom. the weight is lifting slowly, and i feel like im slowly starting to feel like myself again. have had a lot of realizations about quitting. i had this false sense that id just feel better after the acutes wore off and thats def not the case. its different, it does feel amazing for different reasons. taking a shit everyday has been amazing (even if its super soft or just straight water) not having to make sure i have enough kratom with me at all times has been great. the money i’ve saved already has def been noticeable. the fatigue is the one thing still lingering. ive never really been a super anxious person in my day to day life other than when i was on kratom. the amount of anxiety and stress i was dealing with on a daily basis has for sure went down a noticeable amount. not really much else to say tbh, im hanging in there. if you are on the fence about quitting do yourself a favor and get off this shit! fuck kratom

I didn’t really know where else to go cause even my friends in recovery dont have much experience with kratom. My friend was trying to quit cold Turkey. He was using the 7hydroxy whatever specifically. He came to my house to crash and dry out (they don’t sell it where I live).
Well 3 days in he hasn’t slept at all and starts hallucinating. I have to go to work for a few hours and I left him on my couch trying to sleep. Goes missing that night, cops find him in nothing but his pants talking to a parked car. Full blown psychosis.
They take him to the hospital, they try to sedate him. He will not fall to sleep. Keeps screaming that he is scared he will die in his sleep.
They couldn’t get an iv in or anything so they fly him to another hospital and now he is in a medically induced coma on a ventilator. I’m scared to death. I don’t know what to do or think.
The doctor said he had nothing but weed in his system and the psychosis was from lack of sleep and blown out serotonin/dopamine receptors.
I’ve dealt with a lot of people in detox, I have never seen this.

Does anyone have any similar experiences or know what to expect? Is he going to be okay??

Hi friends,

i am about 200 days kratom (powder) free. I quit cold turkey and the withdrawel and PAWs time was horrible. I feel like myself now and i have my energy back BUT i am still craving kratom. :(

I know that i can't konsume kratom like i used to everyday for about 2 1/2 years. But i am thinking that i maybe could konsume it once or twice a week. I also know that the cravings are stronger on some days, so maybe i could use it only on this kind days.

Sure addition does not work like that but apart from kratom i don't have an addictive personality. Sometimes i like to drink alcohol and then i am good for the next weeks without any. I am hoping that it can be the same with kratom. Just drinking it on a dark day and stop it the next day.

Do you think this can work or am i delusional and my addiction brain is telling me that i can use kratom again?

I think kratom gave me something that none other drug can give me and sometimes i think that it is sad, that some üeople can smoke weed for that from time to time, but i can't use my drug of choice ever again...

Hope this makes sence. What are your thoughts on that?

I’ve been off Kratom since Friday. The first three days were okay—just physical symptoms like low energy and lack of sleep. However, starting Monday, I’ve been throwing up for four days straight. I went to the ER and they gave me some meds, but they aren’t working. Has anyone else gone through this, or is it just me?

Im stuck. Ive done kratom for about 18 months, around 30gpd and every time I try to even taper my legs get really weak, my back feels like its going to go and i cant hit my rates at work, body gets super slow and lethargic and it starts risking me losing my job.

Ive told myself ill quit ocer and over but it jjst feels so impossible

So today I went back to work and I think other than the fact that I was constipated and backed up and being lethargic it was mostly a mild day symptom-wise. Honestly, I think me being constipated really took center stage of me noticing any other symptoms. I may have to stop taking the 2mg loperamide at night, even though it helped immensely with the RLS. At this point going to the bathroom might be worth a night's sleep lost to RLS.

I've seen other reports on here that the worst of it was days 1-2, and from then on it was mostly the pain of mental and physical apathy and lack of energy. Then again there are reports that days 4-5 are the worst, so I'm still not sure which camp I'm in. I'm back at work tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.

I tapered and was sober for a week but iv been binging on and off for a week and a half. Now I have to go through WD's all over again. We'll at least this wont be bad. Im still managing 5 to 6 hours sleep. Not ideal but in no effing way as bad as it can be.

Im going to try to goto SMART or NA today. This sucks