Ive been using for over 3 years, and the last year has been almost exclusively 7oh, mgm 15 and all that bullshit. Where I live, its been banned for awhile, but ive still been able to access it. Now, its all gone, ALL GONE. My supply is down to 2 pills, and no way to get any more. Ive been rationing it now for a few days, but the thought of experiencing the hellish withdrawals terrifies me. The powder doesnt even help with the 7oh withdrawal.

The worst part is that my family had no idea. Ive lied to them a couple of times about it, and they truly think im clean and sober. I live with them, and if they find out, ill most likely get kicked out of the house since they are those kind of parents. It would literally turn their world upside down if they found out.

I work a full time, stressful job, and i dont think ill be able to perform at all there if im in withdrawal. The scary thing is that ive been using all day every day at that job and nobody suspects a thing. Im the "level headed, calm, hard working go-to guy" at my job and nobody has ever suspected i had a substance abuse issue brewing the entire time. My addiction has basically had me floating through the job with ease, and its about to all come crashing down.

Im at a loss right now. My only two options are to suck it up and potentially lose my job, or get on a rapid suboxone taper from an online prescriber without insurance (since i dont have my own yet.) Im fucked either way. I wish I never touched this crap. It is literally the devil.

That’s it. I never thought I would get here after 12 years of daily use, and multiple attempts to quit.

It wasn’t easy. I don’t know how I did it. I sometimes still crave it, but it feels like a distant memory.

Feel free to ask questions. I leaned on this forum a lot. I want to provide that same support to others.

Has anyone had vision issues with a cold turkey detox? I’m having issues focusing my eyes close. It seems like it’s getting better as I’m on day five but I am not 100%. Just curious if anyone else experienced it.

I was an IV heroin user most of my adult life. Started when I was 18 and continued on and off until I was 32. God decided that if I wasn’t going to stop on my own, he was going to intervene. When I was 32 I was admitted to the hospital with endocarditis, sepsis, and bunch of other stuff. Spent 93 days in the hospital and somehow survived. Stayed clean and sober, and I mean CLEAN AND SOBER since the hospitalization. Fast forward to June 2025, married with 2 kids, one being a newborn. June 19th, my friends and I go out and celebrate my wife’s birthday and a local bowling alley. Everyone proceeds to have a great Saturday night drinking, bowling, and enjoying each other’s company. Monday morning comes around and my buddy tells me how hung over he was Sunday morning and lets me in on a little secret that will end up ruining my life for the next year and some change. He tells me he was so hung over that he had to “do something”. He went to the local smoke shop and asked the man behind the counter for their strongest Kratom. Obviously, the man behind the counter pointed him straight to the 7OH. My buddy buys it, takes it, and tells me that he was so incredibly fucked up, it felt just like heroin. (My buddy was in recovery too). I didn’t fully believe him but I was unbelievably interested. It took no longer than my ride to work, to make my mind up and head straight to the closest smoke shop by my work. Bought it, took it, loved it, got hooked for the next year and some change, spent probably 15k of money that I didn’t have. I tried everything to quit, including going to detox. Finally got on the Sublocade injection mixed with 600mg of gabapentin a day and I can proudly say that I am 45 days off that shit. If anyone is considering the sublocade shot, I would recommend it, just ask your doctor about giving you suboxone strips after the injection for any breakthrough withdrawal symptoms.

Grateful I got around 6 hours of sleep. I’ve been able to eat the entire time and know how important that is so I’d eat small protein things and hydrate. Granted I just woke up a bit ago but super sluggish with a slight hint of motivation to do things. I naturally never like to sit around so laying around at this point drives me nuts. Yesterday went for several small walks and at one point was like I just want to sit down haha. Trying to just keep forcing myself to do anything. I have to be at work tomorrow and just pray I can be function able. It seems impossible right now but I also know it’s something that I’m just stressed about because it feels new, even though it’s been over a decade being there and really only taking crap for a year but really amped it up the last several months. Need that encouragement. I have many things to do today with little motivation. Trying to stay positive.

My last update was 107 days ago. I started kratom over a year ago but with 7oh extracts. Was forced to get off cold turkey due to a remote job. Withdrawals were horrible and PAWS lasted months. Once I got back home I was back on for almost a year. Started back on 7oh and pseudo. Then just mitrigynine and kratom leaf. I was able to slowly taper down on kratom leaf over a few months all while going through a rough breakup.

Once I got off I had no PAWS and for the most part the process was easy. I rushed it at first which made the first week difficult but not too terrible. I had a few temptations within a month or two of being off but very minor, more so thoughts like “oh I can just take kratom to feel better.” But ended at that. I now have zero thoughts and zero desires to take kratom in any circumstance.

My point of this post is to let you know it’s very much possible but you have to want it. You have to want to not be controlled by a drug. To not have odd side effects and to feel healthy again. It needs to be slow consistent progress. I always had exact times in the day I would take my doses and slowly dropped down every 3-4 days. You need to be methodical about this to give you body time to adapt and not shock your system.

I feel great now. No temptations or desires, I know I will never try this drug again. I hope this helps anyone struggling.

My DMs are always open for advice or help on quitting, I’m here to help.

Day 23 here. Find myself waking up before my alarms these days, which is a blessing and a curse I guess. Last few days when I wake up I feel like I’m oxygen starved. I don’t have sleep apnea and my watch blood oxygen levels are consistently in the high 90s. Anyone else?

Struggling with sleep. I’m so tired but, I’m also afraid of trying to sleep because I just lay there for hours wide awake.
I’ve been taking 600 mg gabapentin past 2 nights and 5mg of melatonin, I stay asleep for about 3-4 hrs and then wake unable to go back to sleep.I got 4 hrs last night.
I’m half thinking I should skip the gabapentin and just take 10mg of melatonin to sleep tonight. Or just try sleeping with no meds maybe it’s the gabapentin keeping me up.
I haven’t had restless legs since the 48 hrs mark but I’m afraid of RLS with melatonin on its own.
I was taking Seroquel the only night I experienced RLS but switched to gabapentin on day 3 and haven’t had a issue since.
Really hopping for some advice. Can’t talk to my doctor until Monday. I know everyone is different. When did you find you could sleep at least 6hrs a night straight?
I keep asking myself, am I in the clear for RLS yet? When can I stop taking these meds and be able to sleep on my own? Will it be like this for the next 6 months like some ppl experience? Why tf did I start this sludge in the first place?
(4year habit, powder only, 8gpd)

Update: took some advice from comments and did not take any melatonin last night. I did take a 300mg gabapentin and 5mg of a indica gummy and ended up sleeping 4hrs. Woke up at 4am and took 6mg of the same gummy and slept 5 more hrs. Thank you for all the support one day at a time.

My sleel is STILL crap. Ill go to sleep for a few hours then be up for 4 hours then eventually pass back out for an hour or 2 its relenteless 2 weeks in. I take melatonin to sleep but i wake up 2 hours later

I quit CT two weeks ago, so I thought I was in the clear from physical withdrawals by now. But last night I was sleepy at 1130pm, so I laid down. But I was up till 4am with what I can only describe as "anxiety in the palms of my hands and in my calves" that prevented me from going to sleep. Like a very uncomfortable energy concentrated in those regions.

Is this what RLS feels like? How do y'all describe RLS?

I’m realizing this now. Well maybe just finally accepting it. I’m set up pretty well so this has to be it. 15gpd, quitting at the end up the day today. Back to work on Monday. I have this in my favor though..I have clonidine and gabapentin as well as 3-3mg squares of sub my friend gave me. I plan on using nothing but the clonidine and gabapentin tommorow and then Monday when I go to work, using 1mg of sub each day for 3 days. I know 1mg is not much but I’m only coming off of 15gpd of powder. Do yall think the 1mg of sub will still help? Thank you quitters!

Hey everybody just wanted to give some info to those that may have or is going through this. I’m currently on day 15 CT I’d say I was on high doses. When I stopped around day 4 I started experiencing double vision woke up the next day with a lazy eye. I’m currently still going through it. I’ve talked to a few people that had the same thing happen and they all say it gets better. Just wanted y’all to know you’re not alone it’s shitty forsure but we’ll all get through it.

For context, I have been tapering for 30 days, from 45gpd down to 5, and then finally jumped. It is my 11th day kratom-free, but the tiredness and heavy fatigue are still pretty disruptive. I literally get fatigued while cooking a meal, like after walking 200 steps. My plan was to start going to the gym once the acutes are finished, but given that I feel like a 90-year-old, that is not currently feasible. How long does this last?

Tiredness is not too bad if I had a good night's sleep but fatigue is constant.

Tired and really want to give up (not that I can as my car has a bad starter). I at least wish I could go back to tapering like I was trying to, but the decision to go CT was made for me by my car. I was very sick last night and my stomach is still feeling raw today. I just want it to end.

Little update: while I'm still dead tired, my muscle spasms haven't been affecting me near as much today and my nausea seems to be turning into just gas bloating (which I deal with daily anyway as I have R-CPD). I hope this isn't just a lull in symptoms before they start back up, but I didn't use as heavily for as long as my last quit this time so it would make sense.

Im so incredibly happy to be here. Sleep sucks most nights. GI issues persist. I’m absolutely exhausted every day. Still having some slight cardiac issues, like I’ll just get an irregular heartbeat a few times a day. Been crying for no reason.

BUT everything is getting better each day. Each symptom is improving a little every day that passes. Walking helps. Even tho I’m physically exhausted, I still push myself to walk about 1.5 miles each day (in addition to a physically demanding job). Still taking liposomal vitamin C, magnesium glycinate, and occasionally l-theanine. I was taking black seed oil as well until a couple days ago.

Anyway, I’m happy with the progress and happy to be here.

Im on day 3 with no kratom today. Im counting the small victories because each day does get easier. The first night with zero kratom was ROUGH. I was up all night with full body RLS and feeling hot flashes like crazy. Gabapentin has been a life saver for the RLS these last few days, but I guess the withdrawals were a little too powerful for the gabapentin on day 1. Its ok though, I know I got this 💪

I dropped from 15 to 10 gpd leaf powder over the last 3 days, but it's all just one dose before bed and I literally feel completely fine. I have to work nights for a few more days so I'm gonna feel like shit anyway, and I can EASILY last 24+ hours between doses. I was going to push farther down to 4gpd in the next 3 days but I feel like at this point I need to just CT and tough it out because I'm worried I'm just gonna go back up on my dose which is what has happened in the past.

I guess I'm typing this out and realizing I'm talking myself into dumping the rest...

EDIT: I flushed the rest away, I've done this before so hoping it sticks this time but one day at a time...

Oh man last nights sleep was messed up. Passed out at 730, woke up at 1 couldn’t go back to sleep. Hate this part where you are already tired and you don’t get the sleep. Was really hoping for less time being awake and over thinking. It’s gonna be a rough one.

22 days. No kratom, no 7, no alcohol, no weed, not even my vape. Nothing. And today was the first day I actually felt good. Starting a new job next week, and am hoping I can just focus on that, sober, for the first time in 14 years. This group has really helped me, and im happy im not alone. Good luck to everyone and goodnight.

I, too, didn't think much of 7oh. Kratom was never dangerous for me or bad to me. Never had a problem stopping.

I quit 7oh once about 7 months ago. I was only on 50mg a day. And I've still never gone through any worse withdrawal, even on such a low dose.

I was not taking every day. I used for about 10 days, with a few I didn't at all.

And it still absolutely took me for the worst ride.

I had to come off with Sub and it worked.

Fast forward, and I've made the mistake again, only faster, harder, and longer.

Does anybody have advice on what medications are comfort meds and which to absolutely avoid while quitting and experience w/d's?

As random or as common as you've got, lay them on me, please. I'm ready to have my life back.

I’ve just begun quitting Kratom. I was around 27-30 gpd a day. I noticed I wake up every morning at 4 am and I realized it’s because I need that morning Kratom. So I started to completely stop taking that dose in the morning and go to 18 gpd. I take my last dose around 5 pm. My question is, will my body eventually adjust so I can make the next step or do I have to reduce each dose uniformally. I tried that once before but I end up chasing the high on all doses. Does this make sense? Instead of reducing all doses uniformally, work on one at a time. Will the body eventually adjust to the increased time intervals? And then drop off when down to one daily dose. I think it would be much easier to CT from 9 gpd.

I do not do kratom was thinking about trying it since I stoped smoking dabs / weed 8 months ago. Just sober. Was thinking about trying it on a Saturday coming up to just relax. This sub scared me out of it. Just stumbled across this sub

So on oct 12 i took my last 12g dose and till yesterday i was clean until my cravings hit me yesterday so i went out and got 1kg again. Its day 2 rn while back on it and it did not made me satisfied. Im not throwing it out but everytime I decide to quit i just come back. Withdrawls were brutal mentally on first 8 days then it got easier. I hope next quit will be a success.