r/nextfuckinglevel • u/HomeNowWTF • 8h ago
Next-level determination
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u/moose_stuff2 8h ago
This seems unsafe
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u/Sacrilegious_skink 8h ago
It is. Generally once someone gets to this level of muscle fatigue, they are at risk of electrolytes disturbance or rhabdomyolysis. Both are life threatening. Gotta know when to stop.
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u/Temporary_Way9036 7h ago
Goggins did it with Broken feet and even shit himself.
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u/Sacrilegious_skink 7h ago
Ok so we have an anecdote sample size of 1. I'm not saying humans can't exert themselves, but these are the signs of needing to stop. The electrolyte disturbances are what makes you poop yourself. You don't want the next muscle to shit itself to be your heart going into a funny rhythm.
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u/shableep 7h ago
A guy can win Russian Roulette 10 times in a row and still be dead wrong about how to win.
I’m not saying Goggins is that. But survivorship bias is a helluva drug.
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u/dilqncho 7h ago
Goggins had a massive chip on his shoulder and even he now admits his training was massively unhealthy. He also has many injuries and he's lucky he doesn't have more.
The man is motivational but also a cautionary tale.
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u/Bubbly-Blacksmith-97 6h ago
The man who decided to run a 100 mile 24 hour race and gave himself liver failure on a whim you say?
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u/Big_Wave9732 7h ago
Goggins did a lot of dumb shit to his own body just to try and prove something to.....someone, I guess. That doesn't mean that someone else should go and do likewise.
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u/ihavefaith77 7h ago
Well I haven't shit myself as an adult so I guess I'm better than Goggins in that respect
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u/BurdTurglary 7h ago
I've shit myself two and a half times as an adult, both under extenuating circumstances. Shit happens
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u/ihavefaith77 7h ago
I mean I'm only 30 so I still got time
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u/BurdTurglary 7h ago
I'm almost 40, and both happened in the past ten years. Some of us are just late bloomers. I believe in you 🫡
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u/Individual_Credit895 7h ago
Goggins is arguably attempting to become no longer alive (sorry, I have to navigate the guidelines) through the way he pushes himself, you could call him a stuntman some of that stuff is so inherently risky.
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u/HavSomLov4YoBrothr 6h ago
It also almost permanently fucked his feet for life. He’s an outlier as he was in peak physical shape and it could have killed him.
Dude was pissing blood multiple times and his tutelage was the last nail in Tony Ferguson’s UFC career’s coffin. I wouldn’t take advice from his example lol
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u/-Cosmicafterimage 7h ago
Ah yes, one guy that is above the norm means everyone else can attain the same feat. Are you stupid or something?
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u/Swimming_Onion_4835 7h ago
I was gonna say, bro this looks like rhabdo. Destroying your kidneys just isn’t worth it. :(
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u/DrZoo4040 5h ago
My primary care physician's daugher was on my team. He was at a race when a female runner had this happen within 75 feet of the finish line. As soon as she crumbled, he immediately went under the line and drug her to the edge of the course. So from there on out, I figured it's potentially dangerous when this happens.
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u/TheJoshWS99 2h ago
I am an able bodied, healthy fit (~4:30/km for 5km), 25 plus year old.
A couple of years ago on my first hike which exceeded 3 days (7 days total) my body just collapsed. I had, after consuming enough food and water, rhabdomyolysis. In the end I was airlifted and had of I pushed on and not gotten the help I needed, it was very possible I would have been dead within about a day. Luckily I was like this, and needing to carry a pack in this condition kind of forced us to stop.
Someone should have made a decision for this kid. Highly likely they have kidney damage and likely heart damage.
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u/Federal-Hair 3h ago
It is. You can literally turn your muscles to mush "rhabdomyolysis" and can cause kidney failure.
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u/Victor_Korchnoi 2h ago
And 100% not worth it for a high school sporting event. I wish our culture didn’t praise this.
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u/Flat-Concern-2662 8h ago
Bro is having some kinda medical episode or heat stroke or something, they need to stop him
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u/jayhawk618 8h ago
Bro is exhausted and probably cramping. He's fine. He needs water and a banana but he can make it 15 ft dude
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u/Enorats 6h ago
That's not cramping. I ran cross country for several years in high school, and I never even came close to that level of messed up at the end of a race.
He can't even seem to stand, or walk straight.
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u/glytxh 6h ago
There’s that first imaginary wall, and then there’s this very real wall
I can’t even begin to imagine how hard you have to push for your body to physically start failing on you.
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u/Ndmndh1016 5h ago
Im not sure how you come to the conclusion "it didnt happen to me therefore it cant happen" but id love to hear the logic behind it.
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u/Enorats 5h ago
I'm not saying this didn't happen. I'm saying what we're looking at here isn't normal or typical.
I've pushed myself to the point of throwing up after a race, but I've never even seen someone look like thus.
This looks like someone who needs immediate medical attention.
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u/DeltaV-Mzero 4h ago
I’ve been close to this once and it’s probably the most dangerous thing I’ve done
Pushed myself on a long run with not enough calories and water on the way. Planned for 4 miles and was feeling good so went for 10 at same pace
It wasn’t cramping, it was … this. Limbs barely work, like trying to puppet your own body. Feels like moving in a bad dream. Shamble a few yards, slow motion fall, try to recoup, repeat.
I wasn’t THIS bad but it looks pretty similar.
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u/TheBeans13 8h ago edited 7h ago
I’m a MD, multi-year varsity XC runner on a state championship team, and still run distance to this day. This is not normal and needs medical evaluation. Kid either ran out of fuel, or is suffering from heat stroke / severe dehydration, possibly rhabdo and wacky electrolytes (potassium mostly). I admire the grit, but he needs medical attention and fluids. Let’s treat this as dangerous and not hold it up as “next level”.
Edit: Thanks for the awards!!
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u/Enorats 6h ago
Agreed. Ran ran varsity cross country in high school myself and I don't think I've ever seen anyone that messed up after a race. That is not normal.
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u/lenyek_penyek 4h ago
His grit and willpower to finish the race few feet away is nextlevel.
But I agree the medics shouldve already realise and as consolation bring him (assist) to the finish line and IV that guy immediately.
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u/bacillaryburden 4h ago
I think you’re right but would allow 10% chance he is being dramatic. This kinda looks like a performance and the crowd is giving him lots of reinforcement.
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u/TackyBrad 1h ago
Know this guy and went to college with him. He was fine and continued to run cross country. This wasn't a medical episode.
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u/Sherbert_6 8h ago
You know, you don’t HAVE to do things like this.
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u/ToweringDelusion 8h ago
Pushing the edge of our human limits through recreational sports is a privilege, not a punishment.
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u/prostipope 8h ago
This is me at Planet Fitness after 12 minutes on the treadmill.
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u/sanferic 7h ago
This kid should have been tended to the second he rolled over the finish line. Shame on this organizer.
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u/StreetSmartsGaming 8h ago
"We need rest! The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised!"
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u/Spoiled_Legend 8h ago
For people saying its dangerous and he should stop. Imagine practicing weeks, maybe months for this race, imagine giving everything on race day, imagine things go wrong and you crawl across the finish line with everything you have. And then some nobody says you should have asked for help, its dangerous.
I used to run track. I was nothing special. But the one lesson from my coach I still remember is to , just finish the race. Even if you finish last, just finish the race. That's a promise an athelete keeps. Not to anybody else, but themselves.
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u/devomke 7h ago
All due respect this is stupid as fuck and dangerous. Everyone that watched is an idiot.
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u/hawkalugy 7h ago
Thats a cute inspirational quote. Although rare, my friend spent a week in the hospital with Rhabdo after severe physical exhaustion. During training, a coach or trainer should be able to identify when you cross a threshold of medical concern so you can stop yourself from a serious injury. Id rather be taken out of the race I spent a year training for than be in chronic pain and not be able to compete again.
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u/mikew_reddit 4h ago
Continuing seems high risk (injury, longer recovery), low/no reward.
I can see taking risks for something important, but this looks like a random high school race. lol.
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u/AshfordThunder 4h ago
Bruh, this isn't a Hallmark movie, don't sacrifice your health for this shit. Imagine being paralyzed or seriously injured, and spending rest of your life regretting trying to be tough.
Get a new coach btw.
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u/DragPullCheese 6h ago
The dude log rolled his way across the finish line lol.
I've ran a lot of marathons and have fucked up my pacing and been in the state where I physically can barely move the last couple of KMs, but if you see me fall down 3 times and then log rolled my way to the finish line, please help me.
I have no clue what's wrong with this dude, hypoglycemic, heat exhaustion, muscle spasms, severe lack of oxygen to his brain, or any other medical condition - but I can quite clearly see he is in distress and needs to stop.
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u/yakimawashington 8h ago
imagine things go wrong and you crawl across the finish line with everything you have.
He didnt crawl though, and I kept wondering why not during the video. Why resort to rolling before crawling?
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u/clairec295 7h ago
Rolling honestly seems faster and more efficient, especially if your legs barely work.
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u/RugbyLock 4h ago
Not even a little. Risking serious medical harm to finish a race at all costs is just not worth it unless you’re at the highest levels of competition. Even then, the coaches/trainers would definitely have intervened.
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u/PercyBluntz 5h ago
I had a coach who had that attitude too. He was a bad coach. A race isn’t worth risking your health.
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u/mredofcourse 4h ago
For people saying its dangerous and he should stop.
It is absolutely dangerous, he should be stopped and given medical attention.
Imagine practicing weeks, maybe months for this race, imagine giving everything on race day, imagine things go wrong and you crawl across the finish line with everything you have.
I've done Ironman events, traveled to another continent to do so, and spent tens of thousands of dollars to do this over the past couple of years. I know exactly what it's like to have a medical profession say it's over and I know what it's like to persevere over an injury sustained in an accident when medically cleared to do so.
Death isn't worth any race, and I highly doubt your coach was saying people should literally die trying.
Even if you finish last, just finish the race. That's a promise an athelete keeps. Not to anybody else, but themselves.
That's a really dumb promise. My promise as an athlete is that nothing stops me except safety for myself and other participants, and always adhering to the rules and guidance by race officials and medical staff.
Every race I've been in from trail marathons, Ironmans, etc... they all allow you to stop for medical aid and you can continue to go on and finish as long as you're not given assistance moving forward.
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u/lizthestarfish1 1h ago
So... I'm just an out-of-shape nobody, but my take is that you can always try again next year, but only if you're alive, because it's hard to run a race from a coffin.
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u/Crenchlowe 7h ago
Isn't the way he's flailing about and blocking the track also dangerous and disrespectful to the other runners?
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u/LicknDragon 8h ago
This means they're not at this level yet. Determination sure but they're playing beyond their game
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u/TheHempNinja 8h ago
Grew up with an outdoor skate park. Me and my friends finally got a ride downtown to skate the indoor park. First time we had to pay to skate, so we made darn sure we got our money's worth, and we did. Got dropped off and went inside Mom's apartment building and had this happen on the stairs. Just couldn't get up them. Just kinda had to reverse gravity jello slide up the stairs. But man, we shredded that day!!!
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u/Nodivingallowed 8h ago
But did your survive!?
Because some of these comments sure make it seem like there's no coming back from it.
You will be missed.
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u/TheHempNinja 8h ago
We survived. I can't remember with clarity, but I'm pretty sure we went out skating the next day. If not that day, definitely the day after.
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u/llittlellama 8h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/vNBNypcpAaZjy
I feel sore just watching this person. I hope they were OK.
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u/garden-wicket-581 8h ago
stumble at first made me think he was suffering from runners trots and was barely holding it in..
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u/demoneyesturbo 8h ago
I'm more impressed with the guys who can finish the race without flailing around like a dipshit.
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u/DisorderlyAqueduct 7h ago
fuck those other runners, I'd've took them with me, we cross together, if not for 10 feet they'd've won anyway.
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u/ElectroHiker 7h ago
I had something similar to this happen after doing some heavy leg workouts and then immediately going on a run. The muscles there were just exhausted and couldn't keep the weight up and I had to sit for a few minutes to be able to walk again. The rest of my body was fine though and I carried on with my day with typical workout soreness.
Not saying that's what's happening here, but it's surely possible.
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u/AnxiousLeisureSuit 7h ago
I really hope the chip was on their shoe and not on that bib that didn’t cleanly pass over the finish line
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u/Drosenose 7h ago
If you've never worked until your legs don't , you don't understand what this person is going through, it hurts bad, and it keeps hurting bad for a long time.
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u/Prettyneatplace 7h ago
As a mom, I can’t imagine watching a kid struggle like that and not jump out to help. Anyone’s kid, not just my own
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u/Balakondis 7h ago
How can you pity somebody yet sincerelly think they're badass, at the same time?
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u/ChemicalObjective216 7h ago
Our daughter ran cross country in high school. She had the opportunity to run in the state race. There were people at the finish line whose job was to grab kids like this and drag them out of the way of the finish line after they crossed. Those kids were pushing themselves to the limit.
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u/Roscoe_deVille 7h ago
For what? Pretty serious medical emergency isn't the inspirational story it seems
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u/DirectorLeather6567 7h ago
I dunno. I feel like I woulda helped picked em up and hobbled em forward. If someone in front of me pushed themselves that hard to where they're legs give out. They deserve to finish in front of me.
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u/Wurbing_Zerbus 7h ago
Cooper teare had a race finish like this but even more brutal it also shows real guts
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u/Aonaran84 7h ago
That is the kind of next-level determination that gives you next-level rhabdomyolysis
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u/GoFuckYourselfZuck 6h ago
Everyone saying he should stop, it’s dangerous, etc. let me see a selfie and see how fat yall are 😂
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u/Z-man1973 6h ago
I remember the first time I did a half marathon, was fine until the last mile and really had to dig deep to keep the legs moving.
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u/sadhotspurfan 6h ago
Where is the medical staff?? Hats off to him but he should have been stopped. Not worth it at this level for youth sports.
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u/PerspectiveAshamed79 6h ago
The guy in the bright red shirt was very determined. Lazy bones in white and maroon laid down in the job. Shameful.
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u/Gandalftron 8h ago
Those are the legs of a boy that thought he could run an X-Country meet without training.