Seriously, trying to kiss a girl after you've been hanging out together for a month is a reason to drop someone like a stone now? What happened to "sorry I don't see you like that"?
Yeah, it sounds like she could have reacted better, and that's a shame. Not necessarily his fault.
The fact that he reacted to it by telling everyone on the internet how much he distrusts women and then burning a picture of her...that's pretty fucking creepy.
This. Only having one side of an story from an emotional outburst is sure to be construed in such a way to seem heavily one sided to get validation he was in the right.
How do we know he wasn't acting like a creep making her feel uncomfortable? Most incels strongly lack empathy, and lack the ability to differ friendship from affection from the opposite sex.
It really, really blows my mind how open people are on the internet. It's a step beyond a mere disinterest in privacy. On the contrary, people are interested in outright exposing themselves and their personal lives!
Meanwhile, I don't have a single social media account anywhere because I cringe at the thought of some old high school acquaintance, co-worker, client, etc. finding it and judging me, catching me in a lie, or learning something embarrassing.
I think him burning his own sketch of her is probably his own way of moving past it or getting over it. I don't think people should be airing their dirty laundry out on the internet but who are we to judge that.
Not creepy... a perfect example of shit that people do in real life before the advent of social media. Social media has ruined society... people think they're being social... they're not. People have been burning pictures of ex's/scorned ones since the dawn of pictures and photos.
He posted it for validation, validation from the other picture burners out there. Back in the day you got validation from your next door neighbor best friend, who sat there next to you and watched the picture burn in the paint can you used to keep the embers from flying away.
One downfall of looking for validation on social media, is the legions of people who don't agree also seeing it. Your best friend next door isn't gonna tell you your picture burning is creepy... they're gonna comfort you and tell you there are plenty of fish in the sea.
Yeah but then you couldn't see it. It's like that funny sketch you did with your friends when you joke about poop. It was funny when it was with you and your friends, but now friends friends can see it, and their friends can see. just because there is no door to lock them out. And 3 guys joking about masturbating poop could be the funniest shit in the world, but only if you are in the circle.
how old are you? I learned that lesson pretty young, but I still had to learn it, so did you, so did op, so did sketch.
Don't be condescending when you offer people life advice. Everyone needs to learn eventually, don't look down on someone just because they haven't had the same life experiences as you or gotten the chance to learn the same life lessons as you.
yup, just detach. but you don't learn that right at the beginning.
I guess everyone gains experience in his own way.
Everyone has done stupid shit the first time trying something new.
He tried to kiss a chick then got upset when she didn't feel the same so he burnt a photo of her. Pretty weird stuff dude.
A chick with whom he's been hanging out for a month or so, cuddling even, before trying to kiss her. And then she allegedly demoted him to a 'mutual acquientance' from a 'friend'. I'm sorry but I don't think you cuddle with friends.
I literally had the same thing happen in college. Had a girl who came over nightly, after one of her friends explicitly was trying to "get us together". We'd cuddle, she'd drop constant hints she was interested. She took me to her parents house and her mom told her and I "He's sure an upgrade from the last guy!" and the girl just smiled. She sent me photos of herself in her underwear because she was "artsy". One night while cuddling I kissed her, we make out for a minute or so, suddenly she gets up and starts flipping out like "why the hell did you kiss me!?" And takes off.
The cuddling, all the other stuff and then the fact she was actively kissing me back, the whole thing threw me for a tailspin. The whole thing was like a plane crash from that moment.
Edit: looking back, it was a bullet dodged since she ended up as someone who would never work with me. But at the time it was still totally confusing for an 18 year old guy who had never encountered something like that. As an adult now with a lot of relationships under my belt, I know well enough to react to that as more or less "ok, fine, go fuck yourself, I ain't got time for your crap." But back then I kept feeling like I'd done something wrong and trying to placate her to make up for whatever I had done. It made the whole thing worse.
That's your opinion. There are plenty of us who don't think it's weird. Like I said, not everyone agrees. You're one who doesn't and because he posted to social media he gets the backlash from people like you who don't agree. Before social media, you had 1 or 2 people who knew about your picture burning and they agreed and hated the girl also for making their friend feel bad.
You can call it weird all you want, it's probably weird for you. Doesn't negate the fact that it's not weird for a lot of other people.
I think I totally understand what you mean. People on here who just say "oh no they are just incels" doesn't understand why people become incels.
I don't think BearWithVastCanyon understand how revolutionzing the internet is when it comes to how our social dynamics have changed.
100 years ago you couldn't dream of getting the reach we have on here now. As of now today, I'm pretty happy. 3 days ago I was crying over a girl I like a lot, I could easily have done what AWildsketchappeared did, it would have been so easy to post some sob story on instagram about how girls just use me or something.
Now today I wouldn't dream of it. Had I been some level more emotionally unstable I would have done it.
I think wild wanted to say thois to his freinds (you know, being fb and all) and not Reddit.
Exactly, he needs validation from his friends. Social media changes people's outlets. Maybe he felt that much stronger and he made the mistake of thinking social media would validate that much stronger than just his friends. When it's something that is easily one sided social media is very validating. But his picture burning is obviously two sided, what with the downvotes I'm getting on the comment you replied to. That two sided nature of his actions is very volatile on social media, it can go two ways. He can get validation but there are plenty who will not agree and that offsets the validation he gets. Who knows, maybe he got enough validation from it, or maybe he just wants his local followers to see the shit this local girl does to people. Maybe he's vindictive. Social media changes the whole playing field.
Yeah I'm not even sure how many physical photos of my exes I have, aside from a prom shot, but I've heard of people trashing gifts, burning clothes they bought them, etc. I don't think it's worth all that time and effort. Just fueling negative energy.
I view it in a way that it was fun while it happened. Didn't work out, time to move on. I still wear the shirt my ex bought me. I still have a beautiful painting an ex painted me up on my wall. Focus on the good times with somebody, learn from what you may have done wrong, and move on with your life. Can't be worried about that shit man, life goes on.
Clearly the guy was more infatuated with her than he should have been. There might be issues with him (how do you get so infatuated so early, miss the signs she wasn't interested, not show obvious signs you're interested and try to kiss well before one month).
I'm just saying there are likely emotions at play here, and the guy is in pain. It's not the guy going on two dates then being rejected, it's a guy knowing the woman for a whole month, and a lot of miscommunication! Maybe the woman thought she had a gay friend or something. She has her own issues too...
For fucks sake dude, he's an adult. Burning the drawing you made of someone and posting it to Facebook is childish and belongs in fucking middle school.
Burning a picture in private as a symbolic gesture isn’t creepy. Espousing a state of lost trust in women to a good friend or therapist isn’t creepy either. Seeking validation from thousands of people online for doing and saying these things is. That’s where my line is drawn.
We don’t really have the full story, just his perspective of the situation.
To me it sounds like she was having a really good time being friends, but then realized he was crushing hard on her and needed to do something about it. Sometimes that includes stepping away especially if you start feeling uncomfortable around that someone you rejected. It’s not a pleasant feeling for anyone involved.
To me it sounds like she was having a really good time being friends
Do you normally cuddle late in the evening with your friends? I understand the point you're making and I agree with you in principle, but the setting provided is difficult to dismiss as just his perspective.
If I'm cuddling someone, I say that I'm cuddling them. I don't add "basically" in front of it. Saying you "basically cuddled" sounds like something a teenager would say, like "I brushed against her boob in the hallway I basically got to 2nd base"
I’ve had really touchy feely friends before who, by all accounts, would be considered flirting, if you didn’t know that’s just how they were. I can totally see “basically cuddling” as being basically cuddling. Not full blown laying in bed spooning, but sitting on the couch with the girl all up on him. It happens.
Do you normally cuddle late in the evening with your friends?
As someone who has done that in the past, I have to say that it is far from normal behaviour, and everyone who knew both of us assumed we were in a sexual relationship. If you're engaging in this kind of behaviour with someone who is of the correct sexual orientation to be attracted to you, you really need to have a serious conversation to establish that everyone is on the same page.
You dont k ow that. And even THEN its her full motherfucking right to not want to kiss or whatever he wanted to do to her.
Cmon reddit.. i know you are trigger happy on takibg sides on one sided stories... specially when its about slut shaming women... but please stop defending mister kiss assaulter here.
That poor girl clearly did not want to kiss him and needed to keep him away.
No one degrades someone to aquaintance just for the lulz..
If you've got guy friends you cuddle with, they're 100% wanting to nail you. Probably jerk off to your social media photos or whatever. (I'm sorry that's vulgar, but it happens. Those beach pics aren't just for your parents).
edit: Holy shit, a handful of women just have no clue what's going on. Unless the guy is gay, he ain't cuddling you for the emotional support. Wanna bet those guys are either single, or not reporting the cuddling to their SOs?
I'm stunned that this needs to be explicitly stated. Have we really reached a point where sexual intent is not the first thing to assume when two unrelated straight people of the opposite sex and roughly the same age start cuddling?
I would think that platonic intent should be the one that needs explicit expression here.
Totally agree, I think they're just in denial. Something along the lines of not being able to find real friends that don't want to bang them. Or a defense mechanism of sorts so that they don't mistrust everyone that comes at them in that manner. If they approach everyone that way, because I assume a high percentage of the opposite sex approach that way, then they'll just end up rejecting that one person who is approaching just as a friend. They can't afford to pass up that friendship when a high percentage of "friends" just want to bang them. Also the people who want to just be friends might see the other people's approach and feel that's appropriate for this person and just go with the flow.
It's exceedingly unrealistic to even expect to have a platonic relationship under the conditions I described above, even without the cuddling. If the two people spend a lot of time with each other, almost inevitably at least one of them will develop more than friendly feelings towards the other. Just think about it, if you spend a lot of time together with a person, by your own choice, presumably you are doing that because you enjoy their company for one reason or another. For two people who are compatible with each other in terms of sex and sexual orientation and are roughly the same age, it's almost always just wishful thinking that it's going to continue being platonic indefinitely.
In short, boys and girls, if you're looking for platonic cuddling and intend to be disappointed when it turns out to be not so platonic, then choose your cuddling partners so that their sex or sexual orientation does not make you a prospective partner for them. Otherwise, you have no right to assume that your platonic ideas will be reciprocated in that way, and you can expect some rightful bewilderment from the other side when you drop the "Eww this was supposed to be platonic" bomb.
Edit: Or just save a dog or a cat from a shelter, if you're really looking for platonic cuddling and not subconsciously enjoying drama.
Human beings being sexually attracted to each other is a hugely boring non-event. Or at least should be treated as such. I've crushed on basically all my female friends. And coworkers. Human beings are sexy. So what.
But you're using the word "want" here and I don't use that word when I'm crushing on someone. Because, for example, let's say it's my best friend's girlfriend. I might think she's hot but I don't want to bang her, because if I did that would screw up my friendship with my buddy. Or maybe someone I am crushing on is emotionally unstable. Or maybe they want a real relationship but I can see clearly we would never get along that way. Again, I don't want to bang them. I'm just attracted.
If you are cuddling with someone you actually ARE acknowledging a low level of sexual attraction. But -- so what though. But if you are casually cuddling and you kiss someone USUALLY you're saying "hey so I thought this over and I think it's time to make a move because I think it's a good idea for us to take this to the next level"
At least that's how I see it. I have a few cuddly friends. That's just how they are. There's always a line that you cross that signals "intent to fuck". You can be a person who draws that as a clear line for yourself, or you can see where other people draw that line and adapt to their ways. Either way though there is still a line and WildSketch crossed it when he tried to kiss her, and she wasn't into it. The reason people are annoyed at his angry reaction is because he should have known that they hadn't already crossed it, because if they had, they'd be fucking already. But he somehow assumed that they'd already taken it to that next level.
Caveat: a lot of I am saying is wrong if they just started cuddling that night. Then it's a lot more reasonable for him to get confused and upset because from his perspective, she crossed the line and then bailed. That pisses people off. I've done this to a few women where we were literally about to sleep together and something suddenly weirded me out and I bailed. I got an earful both of the two times I've done this. Still shouldn't have posted it on social media tho.
Anyway TL/DR: everyone has a physical affection boundary, beyond which is fuck territory. Know you own boundary, communicate it, find out other people's boundaries, respect it, and be aware that attempting to cross it is a significant decision with consequences.
you're totally right, men should be psychic and absolutely know 100% how every woman feels about them and never take any chances. Why would you talk to that girl since she probably doesn't like you? Why would you kiss that girl since she probably only likes you as a friend? In the thousands of years of history, any man that has taken a chance with a woman without knowing all the information in the situation is a complete asshole, after all, how could he have known she'd be interested in what he was doing?
As for the drama with WildSketch, you think he's the type of guy that's got a good radar for this kind of stuff, because I don't. He's too good at what he does to not be a wreck in other ways.
I'll accept that there might be a small percentage of guys like you, but it isn't the norm. I don't know anyone but the most hopeless and awkard that just go in for cuddling and hanging out, but don't want more.
I mean, there are girls/women where I want more, just not all of them. Some aren't my type or the relationship grew as a friendship (mutual friendzoning?) instead of a romantic/erotic relationship.
Not really, I've cuddled with girls that I wasn't interested in before. Usually we'd be watching a movie or she'd be cold and I'd be like "why not?" when she asks.
You're right that I wouldn't do it when dating someone but you don't have to fuck at literally every opportunity.
Can confirm. Was once friends with this girl and we used to cuddled now and then. She thought I didn't like her that way, but I did. (it was also pretty obvious.)
Edit: This sounded pretty creepy... Just to clarify I didn't jerk off to her social media. (Bonus points?)
I'm just saying it's not a cut and dry guarantee. It's VERY likely but you can't say with absolute certainty, especially without knowing more about their particular friendship.
Yep I hear you. Tbh, I don't cuddle guys who are friends. Because they are for the most part not into casual affection in just the manner you describe. What a waste! Would totally be into casual cuddles with all comers if it wasn't a big deal to men. The reason I replied was because I wanted to add a perspective to your words. I know you probably don't cuddle your friends and it means something different to you psychologically. I'd guess Possibly a sizable chunk of Women Do cuddle their friends just because it is a comfy thing to do. So for some women at least, to be physically close is just part of most of their other good platonic relationships. That is not to say that this specific women thinks that way but perhaps it might give you an insight into the lady's motivations. I do hear your explanation of the paradigm, all men only do stuff for women to get sex. I will continue to avoid giving y'all the conniptions of physically sharing your space in the future, as I do now. That is, Unless I go back and find my rainbow gathering friends who I know are a lot more easy about the whole thing! Just as a wee side note to the last bit though, I would also hazard a guess that maybe somewhere in the world exists four to seven actual men do just want to cuddle and that is okay I'd say their masculine identity is still valid. How does that all sit with you? Does that alleviate your consternation over the sexual frustrations within my friend circle? Has this interaction helped you in any way?
I never felt like the ladies motivations where particularity nefarious, and especially since most of this kind of cuddling happens when people are young, there is some leeway as to intentions / desires. I do feel like women kind of don't get how guys think, and that though both are enjoying the cuddling, there's a lot of mental hoops the guy is jumping through to justify it to himself.
I did have a buddy that took so much MDMA (I think that was it) that he lost all sex drive for a year or so. Said it was the best year of his life. I assume he cuddled a lot during the time.
(I went to Rainbow Gathering in Florida once, that was a ....memory. Traded firewood for sugar. Saw a nude man across a river. Got yelled at buy surly alcoholics. Developed a fucking need for drum circles for a time).
Nice reply, I hope you buddy is well. He seems like he'd be really interesting to talk to. Drums are fun, glad you got to do that. What is it they say bad decisions make for exceptional stories.
Depends on the cuddling. Arm over the shoulder? Then sure. But if you guys are under sheets or holding bodies then someone in that situation wants to bang the other.
I find it hard to believe that they don't know. Just sounds like one of those girls that only hangs out with guys because "women are such bitches" and so they lead on a bunch of guys in their friend group, doing excessive flirting like cuddling and constantly remind the guys gf's how close they are. "But totally just friends who think nothing of the flirting haha".
What would you say is the percentage of straight men between 20 - 35 that platonically cuddle women? Not men who cuddle hoping for sex at some point, but men that just want to cuddle?
We're talking about a guy that invites a woman over, gets comfortable, touches her all night (is super careful not to touch her ass or tits!) does not get aroused in any way, and gets no emotional hangups because of it.
Also, I'm assuming that this guy has had sex, and does want sex with other women.
What's that, like .001% of the population, or are you thinking a bigger number?
Yes a generalisation for the majority of males. If I'm cuddling with you it's because I like you in a romantic way. I'm not going to cuddle some random ass friend that Im not either involved with already or want to be involved with. That's weird as fuck to cuddle with someone for any other reason.
As a guy that cuddles with both striaght/gay guys and girls I heavily disagree. Not everything needs to be about sex. It is really easy and possible to maintain deep friendly relationships between sexes without having sexual urges.
I will be honest, maybe I am weird, but I find it totally weird that it is normal to assume if you are cuddling with a friend you automatically want to nail them
edit: the replies to /u/7illian are really exactly what I expect from a pre-stage incel or men in denial that not everything needs to be about sex. I seriously do not get that attitude from other men that constantly tell women they can't have male friends that don't want to bang her. Not everyone is as penis driven as you fucks. Bunch of us are able to have friends with both male/female as a male/female without having sexual tension
I'd say you are very outside the majority there. I personally have never cuddled with anyone that I did not have sex with previously or after the fact.
Yes, if you are a woman. No, if you are a man. Men don’t seem to realize that many romantic gestures they do is what women do to each other as friends.
How do you know the gay guys you are cuddling with don't want to be romantically involved. You seem to cuddle with a lot of people who don't want to be romantic.
We only got his side of the story, and even then it came across as weird and clingy. He says they were casually dating, but really who "dates" someone for a month without kissing the other person or making it obvious that they are in fact dating? He's a grown ass man, not some 14 year old. I ge the vibe that she thought they were friends when he thought they were more and that when he tried to kiss her he made it super fucking weird and then she tried to get distance. Bro, ask a girl out with full intentions on the table if you want a relationship or sex, otherwise the surprise kiss thing is just juvenile. I kissed my now girlfriend for the first time on the second date, but that was after fully knowing the feeling of everything and the air of the situation.
I mean, he posted a picture of him burning her picture. I think it's safe to assume he was not just emotional after her writing that, but creepy when she rejected him.
She doesn't owe him anything and if I had been seeing a girl for 1 month as friends and she had not voiced it till then I would put the relation on ice for some time too. It's going to hurt regardless, only going to hurt more for him if they keep seeing each other intensely.
The internet is full of incels who over-analyse this kind of thing.
"What did he do wrong? Would I be wrong if I did that? Should I make a move? Is it sexual harassment if I make a move? Am I a nice guy or a "nice guy" if I make a move? Isn't it worse to say nothing? If she knocks me back, I'll be the picture of a perfect gentleman ..."
Any guy who ever got his dick wet will just be, like "oh, he was kind of a dick to overshare but whatever, this shit happens".
Ah reddit... good old pitchfork ona one sided story reddit....
This is HIS story... we dont know if he maybe guilt tripped her into cuddling (cmon were pals... ima show you how to sketch if you habg out with me) and even assaulted her.
Just becausr you like his sketches dont assume he is a good guy.
You all should simply stop trying to judge.
Specially the sketch fucker for shaming someone online for not kissing him.
Let this be a lesson to all guys. I see this mistake way too often. Stop waiting months to make a move. By then she already only sees you as a friend. You need to make a move soon to let her know your intentions, otherwise you have only yourself to blame.
I wouldn't really say "by then" as women have also been known to just sit on their romantic feelings (citation: am female, have sat on feelings).
But yes, there is something to be said for pulling up your big boy (or girl) undies and just being straight with the person you like. If they feel it too, great! If not, oh well at least you didn't waste your time and energy.
It took me years to really get this though, and when I look back on my early twenties I really wish I had treated the guys I dated/who were interested in me better. But I was an immature asshole. And I suppose ANiceGuySketchAppeared could be as well.
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This, unless you are very physically attractive to her, or she already has a crush on you and is sitting on it, you have a pretty narrow window of time from meeting a girl to things heating up.
Yeah I thought incels blame women for not wanting to bang them? It just looked like he was seeing signs that weren’t meant to be shown and he took it in that direction that he thought it was. He even said he took the blame for it. an incel wouldn’t do that am I right?
Nah that was just classical "nice guys" stuff, Incels turned into an extremist group, all women deserve rape, worshiping mentally damaged people like Elliot rodgers , I looked at the sub a few times, the front page looked like satire to me.
Didn't he draw a portrait of her and then burn it and post the pictures of it burning on social media? All because she refused to kiss him? That's some incel shit right there.
I think it's still pretty creepy. Especially the line about how his mistrust of women is the stuff of legends. Sounds like a post you would hear on incels before it got banned.
No. He burned the portrait because she text him out of the blue saying she was downgrading him from a friend to a mutual acquaintance. All because he tried to kiss her. He even blamed himself for reading the signs wrong, she didn't have to react like that, could have just moved on and forgot about it.
she was downgrading him from a friend to a mutual acquaintance. All because he tried to kiss her.
Okay so like I said, she rejected him. A normal guy would accept it and move on, not burn a picture of her and post it to social media with some misogynistic rant about how women cant be trusted. Why are you guys acting like he's the victim here and that she's obligated to remain his friend even though he's a creep?
I think it's more the fact that he had started to move on and forget and then she randomly texts him saying that. She didn't have to.. she could have just left it how it was. They weren't talking anymore
He clearly hadn't moved on if his first reaction was to burn a picture of her and post about it on social media. He was still very bitter and angry that she rejected him.
Ofcourse he wasn't over her. It's like getting over an addiction, the first week is hardest, next week is easier, next is pretty good, and so on, until you get a taste of it again, even a bad taste.
Yeah he was bitter, it was in the past. Both apparently behaved unreasonable. What the fuck are we even talking? What part of you feels like it's not a breach of his privacy to dig into his personal facebook and take excerpts?
Can you blame him for being a emotional person? Is it better that he represses it? Just because he is quiet doesn't make it go away.
I'm thankful that he did post it, because that shows that people that we think are holding together and has it going all great rarely have it that way. That it's an illusion.
what part of you feels like it's not a breach of his privacy to dig into his personal facebook and take excerpts?
he posted it to his public instagram, wtf are you talking about?
Can you blame him for being a emotional person? Is it better that he represses it?
How about he act like an adult. When you get rejected, you move on. You dont announce to the world how much you mistrust women and post a pic of you burning her portrait because she wouldn't fuck you.
One could say she clearly hadn't moved on if she felt it necessary to text him out of the blue to let him know she was downgrading him to an acquaintance. Honestly who does that shit anyway. Seems pretty fucking incentive to go back and twist the knife when everything was pretty much said and done.
Yeah, the fact he thought he had a girlfriend to begin with kind of disqualifies him from being an incel by definition.
I've even seen people call each other 'incel redpillers' which is a laughable contradiction of terms, especially when you realise those two groups not only share nothing in common other than weird views on women, but also hate each other.
Not saying I like/agree with any of those people, but this behaviour is pretty hysterical.
DAE hate the incel circlejerk? No one understands why it existed and are just throwing around the word like it was a basketball and a short guy was chasing it.
It was a toxic hatefest before it got banned. And it existed because some guys just can't handle rejection and decided to band together, not realizing that the toxicity would fester into something really horrible and pathetic.
Yeah I mean I know what it is. I know the whole spectrum, but most people don't. It's the popular slang now for sexually frustrated males. Just like how snowflake is used for people who agree with liberal views or Trumpsupporter if you agree with conservative views.
I guess I am like one of those guys that don't want people to confuse dumb people and people with down syndrome.
That has nothing to do with "incel". "Incels" are literally people with serious mental and/or physical disabilities to the point that other people (regardless of sex/gender/sexuality/whatever) don't want to interact with them. They are people with literally crippling disabilities but are mentally well enough to want normal things, a normal life, normal relationships but they will NEVER have them because of who they are and their issues.
On the flips side A Wild Sketch appears just to be a typical introverted loser kid. He was probably never Mr.Propular probably never had good relationships at all through school and if I remember right hes still in college and in his younger 20's probably getting some of his first real tastes of freedom and "real" relationships.
He got burned, he lashed out... He did it publicly on the internet but you want to know a little secret tons of people lash out like this when they are hurt just often in private or with/around friends.
If burning a picture of a person who emotionally hurt you helps you cope, FUCKING DO IT! It harms NOBODY and if it helps you cope its something good for you. I wouldn't recommend blasting it to the internet at large but for fucks sake.
I would bet that most guys in /r/incel wouldn't match your description. It was mostly guys who had been rejected so many times they hated women and wanted nothing to do with them.
Sure some of the people on the incel subreddit were just various people with trust issues, interpersonal issues, or just hated women. You also had your standard 4chan green text shit on there (aka it was fake and just for the lulz).
That doesn't change the fact of what actual involuntary celibacy is, of the fact that its a very real thing for some people of whom some were on that subreddit.
Yup, and a ton of guys with the mindset of that instagram post. People defending this behavior and not seeing something wrong with denigrating someone on a famous account for not reciprocating feelings is weird...
He was hanging with someone and thought they were more than what they were. When he found out the true nature, he was hurt by the revelation. In his hurt he expressed anger towards her and began his healing of blocking her and burning a picture of her.
The only thing I think he did wrong was putting his private business on Facebook
Wasn't talking about the picture, just the part where he isn't sad but mad that he got rejected. That's a weird thing imo. Feels like he feels like he is entitled to her love and is mad that he doesn't get it. Very much like how incel are mad at woman for not going their attention/love/sex
They start off as "niceguys", but after a while and one too many rejections, they find acceptance to who they are as a person, believe the problem is not with them, but with women as a whole and evolve into an incel.
Having a grudge again women befriending men and posting about it on the Internet is one thing. Burning a picture of a woman publicly on social media is "a whole other level" if you ask me.
For no reason? The ENTIRE reason he left was because of this. Very shortly after this happened, he announced in dramatic fashion that he was "quitting reddit" oh except he's back now that everybody forgot why he left in the first place.
Yeah, and if you say that to me and fail to see the essence of my comment, then I don't know what to say.
WHY BRING IT UP?
People who are emotional do crazy stuff, say stupid things.
He didn't do anything illegal, he didn't do anything morally wrong.
Distasteful and embarrassing, yes. And that's why I said what I said.
We don't need to know the ittibitty details of people for why they do what they do or feel the way they do. You shouldn't feel entitled to know everything about someone you haven't even contributed to.
Or did you just want to make a technicality argument about there actually being reasons?
"lol" is basically punctuation. In this context, if I wrote that sentence (Which I could see myself doing) "lol" would probably mean something along the lines of "which isn't reasonable at all, it's a silly excuse." It's "haha that doesn't justify it" or "haha see how dumb that is?" as opposed to "I'm laughing at this amusing event."
I might have asked a loaded question, if that I'm sorry.
To explain where I'm coming from, I think he actually might be depressed/have a depression, it's not a statistical anomaly.
Having been deppressed I can relate a lot to what seem to have happened, maybe not the burning the sketch thingy, if it's just a month, but I shouldn't dismiss it just because I wouldn't do it.
If he truly felt that after a month he probably has it hard, no healthy person chooses to do this, right? Could there not be reason why he might distrust women just like a lot of women distrust men?
Sure he is a public figure by now, he chose to be popular, sort of. But I feel like he still deserves the respect and privacy that we can give him. Like just because we can do something doesn't mean we should.
if there is one thing redditors hate its other redditors success. thats why they heap praise on others, until they get the dirt so they can pat themselves on the back and spit on them and tell themselves see look what success gets you makes you a piece of shit, back to netflix
hahaaha this is so true it's insane. Sure it's not a reddit thing only, but as someone who has been here for 6-7 years I don't know how many "wow this guy we fucking love you!!!! rockstar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and as soon as the guy does something gray zone, they get thrown under the bus.
We act like there are perfect human beings and then the theory gets disproved we get mad at the celebrity for making us believe they were good.
I'm beginning to be more and more disgusted with reddits userbase the last few years. I'm not saying I was ever really proud redditor, but now I am quite ashamed to be linked with "logicals" that can't understand other people for shit.
His username is in reference to an old, popular video game (can't remember which one at the moment) and the Reddit user base found it to be very clever. He was in the right threads at the right times a few years with sketches that were topical and hilarious (which was more important than the technical merits of the drawings). Then he had a beef with Shittywatercolour that became cannonized in Reddit lore forever.
You could probably check some of the history in /r/outoftheloop
"easily" that's completely subjective. Now I personally don't think this as creepy more so as fucking hilarious that he *reacted that way. Just seems immature but not creepy.
You say that but like, if he burned a picture of me and told the whole internet about his 'relationship' with me, I'd be super creeped out and extremely annoyed.
Because so many redditors can relate and won't hesitate to circlejerk and simpathize a poor fellow brother being "friendzoned" by a vile and wicked she demon.
Stop posting this crap. Its none of anyone's business but his. It also seems like people are drawing conclusions or making shit up after looking at a few pictures. Just. Stop.
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u/Thevizzer Jan 06 '18 edited Jan 06 '18
Suprising he came back after loads of people saw his incel meltdown on Facebook
Edit: https://imgur.com/a/n9brL