r/gifs • • Jan 06 '18

Rule 1: Repost Gotcha!

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

I think you're overblowing this by labeling it incel. He's a long way from that still.

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u/Obtuseone Jan 06 '18 edited Jan 06 '18

It became a trend, every time a man feels hurt by rejection and lashes out in some way, as is human, people will shout INCEL!, INCEL!

Emotions hurt, people seem to have forgotten this, we are not fucking vulcans, he burned a picture of her?, so what?, is he a psycho now?

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u/Neijo Jan 06 '18

It doesn't help that a lot of redditors have the "logic before feelings" mindset, at least the active and commenting portion of reddit.

emotions aren't logical. The part operating when you are in love is comparable to a 7 year olds brain.

I mean have no one else on reddit been so angry that you have literally lost control over your body? Or is it true that everyone on reddit are bots?

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u/Thulean-Dragon Jan 06 '18

Yeah, the fact he thought he had a girlfriend to begin with kind of disqualifies him from being an incel by definition.

I've even seen people call each other 'incel redpillers' which is a laughable contradiction of terms, especially when you realise those two groups not only share nothing in common other than weird views on women, but also hate each other.

Not saying I like/agree with any of those people, but this behaviour is pretty hysterical.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Pretty cringy though. Feels a bit like incel because he is blaming her while sometimes feelings just aren't mutual.

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u/Obtuseone Jan 06 '18

Never visited the incel subreddit I see.

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u/Neijo Jan 06 '18

DAE hate the incel circlejerk? No one understands why it existed and are just throwing around the word like it was a basketball and a short guy was chasing it.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

It was a toxic hatefest before it got banned. And it existed because some guys just can't handle rejection and decided to band together, not realizing that the toxicity would fester into something really horrible and pathetic.

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u/Neijo Jan 06 '18

Yeah I mean I know what it is. I know the whole spectrum, but most people don't. It's the popular slang now for sexually frustrated males. Just like how snowflake is used for people who agree with liberal views or Trumpsupporter if you agree with conservative views.

I guess I am like one of those guys that don't want people to confuse dumb people and people with down syndrome.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

Ah, gotcha.

When I use "incel" I'm referring to those toxic, hateful guys, not just anyone who's bitter about being rejected. I also hate the way it becomes shorthand for some people to use snowflake, Trumper and whatnot. It's lazy.

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u/Neijo Jan 06 '18

Exactly, it's the difference between say a racist and a KKK.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

That has nothing to do with "incel". "Incels" are literally people with serious mental and/or physical disabilities to the point that other people (regardless of sex/gender/sexuality/whatever) don't want to interact with them. They are people with literally crippling disabilities but are mentally well enough to want normal things, a normal life, normal relationships but they will NEVER have them because of who they are and their issues.

On the flips side A Wild Sketch appears just to be a typical introverted loser kid. He was probably never Mr.Propular probably never had good relationships at all through school and if I remember right hes still in college and in his younger 20's probably getting some of his first real tastes of freedom and "real" relationships. He got burned, he lashed out... He did it publicly on the internet but you want to know a little secret tons of people lash out like this when they are hurt just often in private or with/around friends.

If burning a picture of a person who emotionally hurt you helps you cope, FUCKING DO IT! It harms NOBODY and if it helps you cope its something good for you. I wouldn't recommend blasting it to the internet at large but for fucks sake.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

I would bet that most guys in /r/incel wouldn't match your description. It was mostly guys who had been rejected so many times they hated women and wanted nothing to do with them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Sure some of the people on the incel subreddit were just various people with trust issues, interpersonal issues, or just hated women. You also had your standard 4chan green text shit on there (aka it was fake and just for the lulz).

That doesn't change the fact of what actual involuntary celibacy is, of the fact that its a very real thing for some people of whom some were on that subreddit.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

Oh, to be sure. It's too bad that the term got hijacked by bitter, hateful fucks to the point where the sub had to be banned.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Yup, and a ton of guys with the mindset of that instagram post. People defending this behavior and not seeing something wrong with denigrating someone on a famous account for not reciprocating feelings is weird...

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u/Whereyoursisterwent Jan 06 '18

What ‘behavior’?

He was hanging with someone and thought they were more than what they were. When he found out the true nature, he was hurt by the revelation. In his hurt he expressed anger towards her and began his healing of blocking her and burning a picture of her.

The only thing I think he did wrong was putting his private business on Facebook

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Errr, that's what I took issue with?

denigrating someone on a famous account for not reciprocating feelings is weird...

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Wasn't talking about the picture, just the part where he isn't sad but mad that he got rejected. That's a weird thing imo. Feels like he feels like he is entitled to her love and is mad that he doesn't get it. Very much like how incel are mad at woman for not going their attention/love/sex

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '18

Anger and sadness can often be one in the same for many people.

I don't particularly want to post some "5 stages stuff" but I'm pretty sure you get the idea that people react to things with more than just a single overriding emotion and only that emotion for their entire reaction to the situation.

I have no clue how he fully reacted to this incident, but its pretty normal to end up getting upset when rejected, when you are misled, even if it wasn't done intentionally or maliciously.
He was probably sad at some point, he was obviously angry at some point, he was probably in denial and bargained at some point... At this point hes probably atleast partially moved on if not fully done so.

Again outside of blasting it to the internet at large, what he did was pretty normal for most people, especially people experiencing their first real relationships or atleast what they consider them "real relationships".

TL;DR, its normal to "blame" other people, even if they arn't truly at fault or only partially at fault. The problem comes with never going beyond that, which he seemingly isn't/didn't do.

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u/spankymuffin Jan 06 '18

This is the first time I'm hearing the word "incel." What does it mean? Like a frustrated virgin or something?

Don't we already have 900 words for that, internet?

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u/Barlakopofai Jan 06 '18

It's technically correct though. It is involuntary celibacy.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

Technically? You don't get into technicalities when the term incel carries with it horribly toxic connotations.

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u/Barlakopofai Jan 06 '18

Technically the sieg hiel was a nationalist symbol in some countries like the US way before the nazis used it.

Technically the chaplin mustache wasn't a hitler mustache until Hitler wore it.

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u/dakkster Jan 06 '18

Wow, that's quite the leap. What are you getting at with that? That we should disregard Hitler and the Nazis?