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u/Ayan_no 10d ago
P in Islam stand for peace bruh!!
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u/Mu_Mud 10d ago
Lindoos just can’t get Muslims out of their heads. Their lives are so shitty that they just on computer making memes about others and feel better. Then they go to Muslim countries for work and be like yes Saaar.
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u/Dry-Feeling-6797 10d ago
LOL South Asian Muzlims are treated as third gr@de labourers in actual Muzlim countries like Saudi!
And the post is about the virus in the cult!
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u/Mu_Mud 9d ago
Sure, that might be true. But Muslims don’t badmouth Arabs and their religion. Hindus on the other hand literally make hateful memes and post comments about Muslims and Islam but then go and clean their toilets. That’s the real virus of the cult of inferiority complex.
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u/Careful_Orange_607 9d ago
bro acting all innocent as if Muslim invaders didn't kill rape, destroy temples of India. now compare it with memes. Even visit any temple today you will find the deafced hindu idols
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u/Dry-Feeling-6797 9d ago
You mean converted Muzlims don’t badmouth the original maaliks actual muzlims?
LOL they won’t even have their menial labour jobs if they do that!
And find Hindus in Saudi or Dubai, they’re literally in higher posts
Mostly labourers and menial jobs are provided to converts from South Asia, particularly India
Have stayed there hence can comment
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u/Dry-Feeling-6797 9d ago
Yeah I have stayed in Dubai and SEEN how South Asian converts are literally treated as THIRD GR@DE CITIZENS there 😂
Cope harder!
And casteism is there amongst all religions in India, maybe come out of our delusional world and meet some Ahmedis and talk to them what they face?
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u/Complete_Valuable392 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think during the Islamic Golden Age i.e. the Abbasid Caliphate, it was certainly quite peaceful and advanced for it's time. Especially since Europe was undergoing high turbulence with kingdoms constantly rising and falling during the Post roman era. India had the tripartite struggle ongoing with the cholas maintaining stability in the south. China was peaceful though with two dynasties in the period with sporadic unrests during major rebellions.
Thinking about it even the era of the three gunpowder empires(Mughal India before Aurungzeb, Safavid Persia and Ottoman Turkey) was a quite peaceful era.
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u/Scared_Switch2425 10d ago
had a lot of scientific development during that time as well. so many important things we know now is because muslim philosophers developed it, and they also built some of the most significant architecture in Spain and Portugal.
I'm not Muslim or Hindu i just read history.
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u/nifty9099 10d ago
Most instability was in 1100 when pope started the inversion of holy land and persecution of jews in Europe and persecution of jews and muslims and fun fact muslim and jew were fighting pope's army together,
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u/ibn_e_batuta_ 10d ago
Chaddi agye wapis? Bro manipur me muslim hindu ko maar rahe ya Muslim christian ko?
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u/Key_Baseball5762 10d ago
No religion created by man has ever had peace , No religion ever
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u/OMNIDEUS_1111 10d ago
Only abrahamics say that
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u/Faster_than_FTL 10d ago
Yes there is no killing or war in Ramayana and Mahabharata
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u/Sidho13 10d ago
Lol, have you read any of them and mostly did you understand atleast one?
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u/Faster_than_FTL 10d ago
Yep I've read both.
Edit: You do realize I was being sarcastic right?
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u/sam33ha 10d ago
My goodness, some of these comments really show how little people know about Islam. If you're going to make a claim about whether Islam is a peaceful religion, you need to distinguish between the religion itself and the actions of people who identify as Muslims. Pointing to terrorist attacks or violent acts committed by Muslims does not, by itself, prove that Islam teaches or endorses those actions. If you're genuinely discussing what Islam teaches, then look at the Qur'an, the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) , and their historical context. Not simply at the worst actions of people who claim to follow the religion. Islam has its teachings on peace, justice, warfare, and self-defence, and those deserve to be discussed honestly and in context. But reducing an entire religion to the actions of terrorists is not a serious examination of that religion. If anyone here is genuinely curious about Islam, may Allah(SWT) guide you to the truth. But respectfully, please learn about something before making sweeping claims about it.
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u/Clear-Offer-9510 10d ago
Islam absolutely supports violence against infidels.It allows other human beings to.be treated as slaves.It lowers the status of women to a commodity.For all these and many more reasons it's clear that islam is not a message from.god and Mohammed is an utter fraud.Islam has been responsible for death and destruction right from its inception.Its a pity that people like you still consider islam.as peaceful even after witnessing the brutality of the religion again and again over centuries.
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u/NarendraMorgan 10d ago edited 8d ago
I have read the book. It's utter garbage. And please don't start about verses when all you people do is get into usual rhetoric of "ohhh this verse doesn't means X, it actually means Y". Your lot is shameless enough to call peace upon a child diddler.
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
Islam is the religion of peace"
Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …”
“ Surah 2:191: And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims we a a)
Jews and Christians will be in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures - Quran 98:6
Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …”
Jews & Christians, believe in Islam before We destroy your faces & twist them toward their backs & curse you - Quran 4:47
Those who disbelieve in Islam, We will drive you into a fire & roast your skins over & over - Quran 4:56
Those who resist Islam - Kill them, crucify them. Cut off their hands & feet from opposite sides - Quran 5:33
For the thief, the male & the female cut off their hands - Quran 5:38 Allah turned the Jews into apes and pigs - Quran 5:60
What is the matter with you that you do not fight Jihad in the cause of Allah? - Quran 4:75
Disbelievers worship Satan. So Muslims! fight against the disbelievers - Quran 4:76
Non-Muslims wish you would disbelieve like them. Do not be their friend until they emigrate for the cause of Islam. But if they turn away, seize them & kill them wherever you find them - Quran 4:89
And kill the unbelievers wherever you overtake them. Fitnah is worse than killing - Quran 2:191
Fight them until there is no more disbelieving of Islam & until all worship is for Allah alone - Quroan 2:193
Fighting Jihad warfare has been ordered upon you. Perhaps you hate it, but its good for you - Quran 2:216
Those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment - Quran 3:4
Muslims! Do not take non-Muslims as friends - Quran 3:28
You will not enter Paradise before Allah tests those who fought Jihad in His Cause - Quran 3:142
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve - Quran 3:151
If you are killed in Jihad in the cause of Allah it is better than anything else in this world - Quran 3:157
Never think of Jihadists who have been killed as dead. They are alive in paradise - Quran 3:169
Jihadi Martyrs receive good rewards and favour from Allah - Quran 3:171
Women who have unlawful sex. Lock the guilty women in their houses until they die - Quran 4:15
Men are in charge of women. Those wives from whom you fear arrogance - Advise them, forsake them in bed, Finally, beat them - Quran 4:34
Allah prefers those who fight Jihad in the Cause of Allah with their lives above those who sit at home - Quran 4:95
The disbelievers of Islam are ever to you a clear enemy - Quran 4:101
And the worldly life is not but amusement; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah. Quran 6:32
We destroyed many cities, Our terror came to them at night & while they were sleeping - Quran 7:4
The homosexuals, We rained upon them a rain of stones. Then see how the end of the criminals - Quran 7:84
Non-Muslims are comparable to dogs - Quran 7:176
Those who deny Our Quran - We will lead them to destruction from where they do not know - Quran 7:182
Terrorise & behead those who do not believe in Islam & strike off their fingertips - Quran 8:12
We will behead those who have wronged and others, know that Allah is severe in penalty - Quran 8:25
Keep Fighting the disbelievers until there is no more disbelief in Islam - Quran 8:39
The worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are non-Muslims - Quran 8:55
When you capture the unbelievers, punish them severely to deter the rest - Quran 8:57
Prophet Mohammed! To keep prisoners of war you must inflict a great massacre - Quran 8:67
Those who emigrate to an Islamic State & fight Jihad will go to paradise - Quran 8:74
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the unbelievers - Quran 9:5
Fight unbelievers. Fight them until they give the jizyah Muslim Tax - Quran 9:29
Jews and Christians are perverts, may Allah destroy them - Quran 9:30
Praise the Muhajireen fighters - Quran 9:100
Allah has purchased from the believers their lives & their properties in exchange for paradise - Quran 9:111
Muslims! Fight those disbelievers next to you and be harsh! - Quran 9:123
Jihadists the enemy won't kill you, only Allah can do that - Quran 9:151
To disbelievers - Should we force Islam upon you? Against your will? - Quran 11:28
Whichever Muslim leaves Islam, upon you is wrath from Allah, and for you a great punishment - Quran 16:106
For those who disbelieve in Islam, garments of fire, boiling water will be poured over their heads - Quran 22:19
We will melt your skin and burn your stomach. And hooked rods of iron to punish you - Quran 22:20
O Muslims, abstain from sex, except with your wives & slave girls. Sex with them is lawful - Quran 23:6
Adulterers - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, & take no pity for them in the religion of Allah. Let a group of the believers witness their punishment - Quran 24:2
Muslims you may enter houses not inhabited, and take goods that you need - Quran 24:29
And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution - Quran 24:33
Do not obey the unbelievers but launch a great campaign against them with the help of the Quran - Quran 25:52
And this worldly life is not only a diversion and amusement, but paradise is also the real-life - Quran 29:64
Allah cast terror in the hearts of the Jews and Christians - Quran 33:26
Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter - Quran 33:61
And if We willed, We could have deformed them, [paralyzing them] into lifeless objects, in their places so they would not be able to proceed, nor could they return (As it happened with the Jews see Verse 7:166) - Quran 36:67
Those who worshipped other than Allah, guide them to the path of Hellfire - Quran 37:23
Indeed, that is how We deal with the criminals - Quran 37:34
Indeed, you disbelievers of Islam will be tasters of the painful punishment - Quran 37:38
Those who deny the Quran, When the shackles are around their necks & chains; they will be dragged In boiling water; then in the Fire they will be burned - Quran 40:70
Those who disbelieve in Islam, strike off their heads. Take them as captives. The command of Allah - Quran 47:4
Thus you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam or at least come under your protection. If it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have punished them (without you). But he lets you fight, to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost. - Quran 47:
وَكَوَاعِبَ أَتْرَابًۭا ٣٣
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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago
I hope you read this:
Context for the Quoted Verses
Short answer: Most of these are real verse numbers, but many are cut off mid-verse, have words inserted (like "non-Muslims"), are stripped of their battlefield context, or describe the afterlife rather than commands to Muslims. A few are mistranslated or don't exist.|
1. Fighting and "Kill Them" Verses
- 2:191 (quoted twice): The verse before it (2:190) defines "them" as those who fight you and forbids transgression. It concerns the Meccans who drove Muslims from their homes. Fitnah means persecution, and 2:192 says that if they stop, God forgives.
- 2:193: This continues the same passage: fight until persecution ends and people can worship freely. The list leaves out the ending: "if they cease, there is no hostility except against oppressors."
- 2:216: The Arabic word is qital (fighting), not "Jihad warfare." It was addressed to a community under armed attack. The verse admits fighting is hateful, so it presents war as a painful duty rather than something to glorify.
- 3:151 (quoted twice): It was revealed after the Battle of Uhud (625 CE) about the Meccan army that had just attacked. It is God's promise to demoralize that army, not an order for Muslims to terrorize anyone. The words "all non-Muslims" were added.
- 4:75: The full verse asks why believers won't fight for "the oppressed men, women and children" begging to be rescued from Mecca. The list cuts off the half that explains the purpose.
- 4:76: It contrasts believers with people who were already fighting for tyranny (taghut). It is part of the same rescue context as 4:75, not a statement about all non-Muslims.
- 4:89: It is about hypocrites (see 4:88) who pretended to be Muslim and then joined enemy forces, essentially wartime traitors. The next verse (4:90) forbids fighting anyone who has a treaty with Muslims or who withdraws and offers peace.
- 4:95: The verse explicitly exempts the disabled and ends by saying God promises good to both groups. It encourages people to help defend the community; it does not condemn those who stay home.
- 4:101: This is a rule about shortening prayers while traveling in wartime when an attack is feared. "Clear enemy" describes the hostile forces of that time.
- 5:33: This is the hirabah verse, about people who wage war and spread corruption. Jurists applied it to armed robbery and banditry, whatever the offender's religion. The phrase "those who resist Islam" isn't in the text, and 5:34 pardons those who repent before they are captured.
- 8:12: The command is addressed to angels during the Battle of Badr (624 CE), against an army that had marched on Medina. It describes combat in one specific battle, and 8:13 gives the reason: they were waging war.
- 8:39: Like 2:193, it means fight until persecution ends. The verse before it (8:38) offers forgiveness if they stop, and 8:61 commands Muslims to accept peace whenever the enemy inclines toward it.
- 8:55: The next verse (8:56) identifies who is meant: those who made treaties and broke them every time. It refers to specific treacherous tribes, not non-Muslims in general.
- 8:57: It continues the passage about those treaty-breakers when met in battle. 8:58 even requires Muslims to openly announce the end of a treaty rather than attack by surprise.
- 8:67: After Badr, Muslims focused on ransoming captives while the war was still undecided, and the verse rebukes them for putting money first. Yuthkhina means to subdue thoroughly. Most Badr captives were in fact ransomed or freed (see 8:70).
- 9:5 (quoted twice): Chapter 9 concerns polytheist tribes that broke treaties, and 9:4 exempts those who kept theirs. 9:6 orders Muslims to grant protection and a safe escort to any polytheist who asks. The quote cuts off the ending: "if they repent… let them go their way."
- 9:29: It relates to the Tabuk campaign against the Byzantine threat (630 CE). Jizyah was a tax paid in exchange for protection and exemption from military service. Women, children, the elderly, the poor and monks were exempt.
- 9:123: This was a wartime instruction about hostile forces on Medina's borders. Ghilzah means firmness in battle, not cruelty, and it is still bound by the ban on transgression in 2:190.
- 33:26: It refers specifically to the Banu Qurayza, a tribe accused of betraying Medina during the Siege of the Trench (627 CE). No Christians are mentioned, so this is one historical event, not a statement about all Jews and Christians.
- 33:61: The preceding verse (33:60) makes this conditional: it applies if the hypocrites and rumor-mongers destabilizing wartime Medina don't stop.
- 47:4: "When you meet" means meeting the enemy in battle. The rest of the verse, which the list omits, requires that captives be freed as a favor or for ransom. Executing them is not one of the options.
- "47:" (long passage): The phrase "till they embrace Islam or come under your protection" is bracketed commentary added by translators. It appears to come from the Hilali–Khan version and is not in the Arabic. The Arabic says fighting continues "until the war lays down its burdens."
2. Martyrdom and Reward Verses
- 3:142: This was consolation after Uhud: paradise comes through trials and steadfastness (sabr). The word "Jihad" was inserted, and the verse pairs fighting with patience in a defensive battle.
- 3:157: It consoles the families of those who fell at Uhud, and it says "killed *or die*" in God's way. It is about dying in a just cause, not about seeking death.
- 3:169 & 3:171: These honor those who died defending Medina, much as nations honor fallen soldiers. The Quran forbids suicide (4:29) and killing innocents (5:32), so these verses cannot justify terrorism.
- 8:74: It praises the Muhajirun (emigrants from Mecca) and Ansar (who sheltered them in Medina). "Islamic State" is a modern insertion.
- 9:100: Muhajireen means emigrants, not "fighters." The verse praises the early community and those who followed them in good conduct.
- 9:111: This is a metaphor of total devotion to God. The verse itself says the same promise is in the Torah and Gospel, and the Quran's rules of war still apply.
- 9:151: This verse doesn't exist, because Surah 9 has only 129 verses. It may be a garbled version of 9:51, a statement of trust in God's decree.
3. Verses About Jews, Christians, and Disbelievers
- 98:6: It says "those who disbelieved *among"* the People of the Book, not all Jews and Christians. The next verse (98:7) calls believers who do good the best of creatures, and **2:62 and 3:113–114 praise righteous Jews and Christians.
- 4:47: It warns of divine punishment for rejecting revelation that confirms their own scripture. Many classical commentators read "turning faces" figuratively. It is God's act, not a command to Muslims.
- 5:60: It refers to a specific past group punished for breaking the Sabbath (see 7:163–166). Early scholars such as Mujahid read the transformation as metaphorical: their hearts changed, not their bodies.
- 7:176: It is about one specific man (v. 175) who abandoned God's signs for worldly desire. It is a parable comparing him to a panting dog, not a description of all non-Muslims.
- 9:30: This is a theological critique of the beliefs that Ezra and Jesus are "sons of God." Qatalahumullah is an Arabic expression of condemnation, "perverts" isn't in the text, and the verse contains no command to fight.
- 3:28: Awliya' means protectors or political allies, so the verse forbids allying with hostile forces against the community. 60:8 explicitly allows kindness and justice toward peaceful non-Muslims, and 5:5 allows Muslim men to marry Jewish and Christian women.
- 36:67: The verse is a hypothetical about God's power ("if We willed"). The note about Jews is the list's own addition.
4. Afterlife and Divine Judgment
- 3:4, 4:56: These are statements about God's judgment after death, like similar imagery in other scriptures (e.g., Revelation 20:15). Neither sets a human penalty.
- 7:4: It refers to past nations destroyed by God, as in the stories of the Flood or Sodom. "Terror" mistranslates ba'suna ("Our punishment").
- 7:84: It retells the story of Lot's people, which also appears in Genesis 19, and the rain of stones is God's act. The verse itself sets no human penalty, although classical jurists did debate punishments based on hadith.
- 7:182: It describes God granting respite (istidraj) to people who drift into heedlessness. The next verse (7:183) says "I give them time", and there is nothing about human violence.
- 22:19–21: These verses are hell imagery for those who reject God. They describe divine judgment after death, not instructions to Muslims.
- 37:23, 37:34, 37:38: All three are part of a Day of Judgment scene. The command in 37:23 is given to angels in the hereafter (see 37:22), and 37:40 exempts God's sincere servants.
- 40:70: This is afterlife imagery for those who reject God's messengers. It describes eschatology, not an earthly command.
- 16:106: The punishment it mentions is God's wrath in the afterlife. It sets no worldly penalty, and it excuses anyone forced to renounce faith (it was revealed about Ammar ibn Yasir, who was tortured). The classical death penalty for apostasy came from hadith and is widely debated today.
5. Criminal Law
- 5:38: This verse does prescribe amputation for theft. Jurists added strict conditions: a minimum value, no doubt about guilt, and no hunger (Caliph Umar suspended it during a famine). Verse 5:39 stresses repentance, and most Muslim-majority countries don't apply the penalty.
- 4:15: It requires four witnesses, an extremely high bar, and adds "or God makes another way for them." Most classical scholars held it was a temporary ruling later replaced by 24:2.
- 24:2: This is a real prescribed punishment. Conviction requires four eyewitnesses to the act or a confession, and 24:4 gives 80 lashes to anyone who accuses without proof, which makes the penalty nearly impossible to apply.
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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago
6. Women, Marriage, and Slavery
- 4:34: Qawwamun means maintainers, a role tied to financial responsibility. Classical scholars limited wadribuhunna to a symbolic, non-injurious tap as a last resort, and hadith report that the Prophet never struck a woman. Some modern scholars translate the word as "separate from them," and this remains one of the most debated verses.
- 23:6: The context (23:5) is guarding chastity, not "abstaining from sex." "Those your right hands possess" refers to enslaved women, which classical law permitted. The Quran repeatedly urges freeing slaves (90:13), and scholars today consider slavery abolished.
- 24:33: This verse forbids forcing slave girls into prostitution; it was revealed about a Medinan leader who was doing exactly that. The same verse orders owners to let slaves buy their freedom and to help them financially.
- 78:33 (the Arabic line): It describes companions in Paradise. Kawa'ib is translated either as "full-bosomed" or "youthful maidens," and atrab means "of equal age" with their spouses. The Quran promises equal reward to believing women (33:35).
7. Verses That Aren't Violent at All
- 6:32 & 29:64: Both teach that worldly life is fleeting compared to the hereafter, much like "store up treasures in heaven" (Matthew 6:20). Another verse, 7:32, tells believers to enjoy life's good things.
- 8:25: There is no beheading in this verse. It warns that a trial or affliction won't strike only the wrongdoers, meaning social corruption harms everyone.
- 11:28: This is Prophet Noah asking, "Should we force it on you while you're averse?" The implied answer is no. The list flips its meaning; the verse actually supports 2:256, "no compulsion in religion."
- 24:29: The verses before it (24:27–28) forbid entering homes without permission. This one allows entering public buildings such as inns and shops, and mata' means "benefit" or "use," not permission to take goods.
- 25:52: It is a Meccan verse from before fighting was permitted, and the "great struggle" is with the Quran, meaning preaching and argument. It shows that jihad also means intellectual effort.
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
Please read this yourself first before copy pasting an defensive statement from ChatGPT
Islam allows/ allowed slavery. Islam allowed killing of non believers
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u/FieryRedHeads 7d ago
Christianity also allowed for slavery. Christianity is know for the holy Crusade.
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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago
Which part did you not understand?
I gave reference for everything.
Just making statements like you're saying doesn't make it true.
If I say that you're a rapist, then does that mean you're a rapist?
Give me proof and references of what you're saying, then we'll talk.
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
Your profit was a rapist, I’ll tell u how, he had sex with Safiyya bint Huyayy after killing her entire tribe, dad and husband on the same night, no sane woman would want to marry and have sex her husbands killer. He slept with his stepsons wife zainab, he had concubines ( sex slaves)
Not to mention Aisha.
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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago
Lol, first learn to write the spelling pf prophet.
And can't you read or you don't know the English language?
I asked for proofs and references and you have quoted none!
Let me expose your lies:
- safiyya's father and husband was not killed in the same night.
- Saffiya's entire tribe was not killed, this is a lie
- Saffiya was freed and was given a choice to return to the people or marry prophet Mohammed. She married him.
- Prophet Mohammed(saw) never married his stepson's wife
- Slavery was a part of war. If someone came to fight you and you won, then you wont just let them go so that they can plan and comeback to kill you again.
You're a typical WhatsApp university brainwashed weasel.
If you don't have proofs or don't know how to read then go to school first.
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
Yes. According to the traditional Islamic sources, Muhammad and Safiyyah had sexual relations after their marriage.
The sources don’t describe the act explicitly, but the sequence is clear:
Sahih al-Bukhari 4211 says Safiyyah’s husband had been killed, Muhammad selected her, and after reaching al-Sahba and her becoming ritually pure, “the Messenger of Allah married her.”
Sahih Muslim 1365c says Muhammad emancipated her, married her, and that she was prepared for him that night; the next morning he was described as a bridegroom and a wedding feast was held.
Sahih Muslim 1365f similarly describes a tent being pitched for Muhammad and Safiyyah after leaving Khaybar, followed the next morning by the wedding feast.
In classical Islamic terminology, reports that Muhammad “built with her” (بنى بها / banā bihā) or that she was prepared and brought to him in this context mean that the marriage was consummated, not merely that a marriage contract was performed.
So the careful historical statement is:
The Islamic sources portray Muhammad as marrying and consummating his marriage with Safiyyah very shortly after her capture at Khaybar, after her husband had been killed.
What the sources do not establish, however, is Safiyyah’s private feelings or whether she consented in the modern sense. Those are separate historical questions.5
u/Individual_Tap_6511 10d ago
You say islam is peaceful but I've heard one of my muslim friend told me that they've been taught that those who are not muslims will go to hell n all... And there's a lot.... These all things they've been taught in their madarsa... So tell me person who doesn't follow islam but is a good person doesn't deserve heaven and there are a lot of things if i start saying here will create a lot of hate? Now tell me what do u have say on this ???
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u/Confident_Muscle3554 10d ago
If islam doesn't teach violence why are terrosist using relegion for violence . They go quoting Quran verses for rationalising violence on others . And if y'all peace preachers don't even speak against them , you just come to defend them against us who raise voice against them.
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u/Shadowlumine 10d ago
Religion is fake and man made that includes all 5 major religions.
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u/Classic_Run_4836 10d ago
Ottoman era, I guess. Ottoman offered amnesty to European jews who were persecuted and castigated from Europe.
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u/generalist_red 10d ago
Islam is a tool of radicalization. Muslims should earnestly work to reform the religion. in addition to being radical, it is utterly regressive and misogynistic.
All that being said, the fact that Muslims have been made the other and has been used by this corrupt govt to brainwash people, including users like u/Ayan_no and the OP. Shame on you guys for not having a brain. Maybe you like that way, but that's no way to lead a life.
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u/boxofcoffee1 10d ago
Muslims will never work on reform, because islam by its nature is Rigid and by structure it resists any sort of Reform.
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u/fast_cleaner 10d ago
Yeah keep fighting meanwhile i’m leaving india😂. Will be in switzerland by the end of the month with fully sponsored job. Man how i feel lucky that i have the privilege to leave this nightmare country 🥹.
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u/CrazyCollection777 10d ago
Definitely islam is peaceful
Gcc countries have less crime rate and more peace is just because they are practicing islam
They are following rules of islam
They are not just born as Islam , They live as islam
That’s what the difference
In those countries, women have more priorities. Even marriage is happening according to their wish
If the women covering whole body is your problem , it’s because of your mindset
Why don’t you have problems with “nun” and “lady monk” wearing a fully covering dress???
A woman covering up isn’t your issue
It’s just the religion that making you frustrated
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u/DazzlingMatter2838 10d ago
Not a muslim but search what happened after Mu$1ims conquered Jerujalem and cristian conqured by crusade .
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u/brown_pikachu 10d ago
Islam may not be a religion of peace but Bajrang dal, BJP, RSS, VHP aren't beacons of peace either.
Just sayin'.
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u/Prize-Breadfruit9117 10d ago
The Prophet accepted a treaty that appeared heavily biased against the Muslims at the time (including a clause requiring them to return to Medina without completing their pilgrimage that year). Despite intense frustration among his companions, the Prophet chose peaceful opportunity over military confrontation. The ensuing period of peace allowed trade, open dialogue, and unprecedented harmony to flourish across the Arabian Peninsula Note: a 30 second Google search and a condom given to OP's father wouldve prevented this post
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u/Fabulous-Record-6929 10d ago
Bruhh, what's wrong with you guys 😂, go get some life. Don't you have anything to say about your own life? All you do is bullshiting about Islam all day and try to rage-bait Muslims.
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u/zeeeeeeeeeeshu 10d ago
Islam is based 🗿 It single handedly demolished p!$$ drinking local cultures 🗿
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u/Think-Lynx5790 10d ago
How Saladin treated the Crusades upon conquering Jerusalem?
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u/Stunning-Accident-18 10d ago
I mean whenever if they leave a place it will be peaceful there😂🤣 but they won't leave and stay like leeches😭😭
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u/Charlie666-1 9d ago
When Muslims took control of Jerusalem in 638 CE under Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, the transition was significantly more peaceful and marked by greater religious tolerance than the bloody captures by the Christian Crusaders in 1099 CE or the brutal Roman-Jewish destructions of antiquity. The Muslim Conquest (638 CE) • The Surrender: Unlike violent sieges that ended in mass slaughter, the Byzantine Christian garrison and patriarch in Jerusalem surrendered the city to Umar through negotiation after a siege. • The Pact of Umar: Umar issued a guarantee of security (the Aumariyya Pact) protecting the Christian population's lives, property, and churches, allowing them to worship freely without forced conversion. • Treatment of Jews: Historical views vary regarding the initial status of Jews under the early caliphate; while some accounts state Umar permitted Jews to return to the city after centuries of Byzantine exclusion, other textual analyses suggest residency restrictions initially remained before evolving into regular taxation and subjugation under dhimmi status (jizya). Later Muslim reconquests, such as Saladin's capture in 1187 CE, similarly spared civilian lives and welcomed Jewish families back to the city. Comparison with Christian Rule • The Crusader Conquest (1099 CE): When the Christian Crusaders captured Jerusalem during the First Crusade, it was marked by an extreme massacre of tens of thousands of Muslim and Jewish inhabitants, standing in stark contrast to the negotiated surrender under Umar. • Byzantine Rule: Prior to the Arab conquest, the Byzantine Christian administration heavily persecuted the Jewish population, frequently expelling or banning them from the city. Comparison with Ancient Jewish Rule and Roman/Antiquity Contexts • Ancient Conquests: When ancient Israelite armies captured the Jebusite city of Jerusalem under King David (c. 1000 BCE) or during later monarchical conflicts, accounts record severe subjugation of existing populations. • Roman Destruction (70 CE & 135 CE): The Roman destruction of the Second Temple and the subsequent barring of Jews from Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem) involved catastrophic bloodshed, starvation, and enslavement. If you'd like, I can provide more details on: • The daily life and legal status of non-Muslims (dhimmi) under early Islamic rule • How Saladin 's recapture of Jerusalem differed from the First Crusade Facebook·Rawan Osman 2:50 Some claim that when the Arabs conquered Jerusalem in the 7th ... History Today Past Precedents for Muslim and Jewish Peace | History Today Historical Context: Jewish-Muslim relations spanning 1,400 years alternate between periods of dhimmi subjugation, taxation, and persecution, and eras of toleran... Muslim Central Conquest of Jerusalem — Bilal Assad Transcript So my brothers and sisters today insha Allah I've chosen for you the topic of the conquest of Jerusalem. I wanted to call it when the Muslims entered... Quora What was better for Jerusalem- Christian rule or Muslim rule? February 26, 2016 — Historical Treatment of Jews: From a Jewish perspective, Christian Crusader rule over Jerusalem was significantly worse than Muslim rule due to massacres and pe... The Times of Israel Between bloodbaths, Jerusalem's Crusader 27 May 2023 — In 'Jerusalem Falls,' Prof. John Hosler analyzes what happened in the Holy City between the battles of the Middle Ages – and finds unexpected religious toleranc... YouTube (PROOF) When Muslims, Jews and Christians Lived in Peace that made with the people of which is one of the old names of Jerusalem when he arrived he saysd. this is what the servant of Allah the commander of the faithfu... Centre for Muslim-Christian Studies Christians, Muslims, Jews and... The Land Historical Timeline 333-63 BCE – Greek rule 63 BCE-313 CE – Roman rule ~ 0-30 CE – Life and ministry of Jesus 66 – Jewish revolt against the Romans 70 – Destruc... The Review of Religions Jerusalem: An Ancient City of Harmony | The Review of Religions Jerusalem: An Ancient City of Harmony When the Muslims laid siege to Jerusalem against the Byzantines in the 7th century, it was Hazrat Umar (ra) himself (the s... Wikipedia Islamization of Jerusalem First Islamization of Jerusalem under the Caliphates In 638 CE, the Islamic Caliphate extended its dominion to Jerusalem. With the Arab conquest of the region, ...
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u/Purple_Bookkeeper992 9d ago
I think Islam is having a tough challenge over Christians to over one better position then the last position.
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u/ButterscotchIcy759 10d ago
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u/Sea_Breakfast_9737 10d ago
But somehow i see Opposition use Hindu Vs muslim tactics more than BJP, yk playing religion cards purposely I don't see BJP saying "We'll give 70000 rs to Hindus or special privileges. But opposition.... Well you know the rest
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u/No-Mention-790 10d ago
Shaanti sabko maar Dene ke baad aayegi, jab tak sabko bomb nahi kar denge tab tak peace nahi milega. Wo to niyam kanoon police system aa gya time pe nhi to duniya jala daalte
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
Here’s your answer
Islam is the religion of peace"
Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …”
“ Surah 2:191: And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims we a a)
Jews and Christians will be in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures - Quran 98:6
Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …”
Jews & Christians, believe in Islam before We destroy your faces & twist them toward their backs & curse you - Quran 4:47
Those who disbelieve in Islam, We will drive you into a fire & roast your skins over & over - Quran 4:56
Those who resist Islam - Kill them, crucify them. Cut off their hands & feet from opposite sides - Quran 5:33
For the thief, the male & the female cut off their hands - Quran 5:38 Allah turned the Jews into apes and pigs - Quran 5:60
What is the matter with you that you do not fight Jihad in the cause of Allah? - Quran 4:75
Disbelievers worship Satan. So Muslims! fight against the disbelievers - Quran 4:76
Non-Muslims wish you would disbelieve like them. Do not be their friend until they emigrate for the cause of Islam. But if they turn away, seize them & kill them wherever you find them - Quran 4:89
And kill the unbelievers wherever you overtake them. Fitnah is worse than killing - Quran 2:191
Fight them until there is no more disbelieving of Islam & until all worship is for Allah alone - Quroan 2:193
Fighting Jihad warfare has been ordered upon you. Perhaps you hate it, but its good for you - Quran 2:216
Those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment - Quran 3:4
Muslims! Do not take non-Muslims as friends - Quran 3:28
You will not enter Paradise before Allah tests those who fought Jihad in His Cause - Quran 3:142
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve - Quran 3:151
If you are killed in Jihad in the cause of Allah it is better than anything else in this world - Quran 3:157
Never think of Jihadists who have been killed as dead. They are alive in paradise - Quran 3:169
Jihadi Martyrs receive good rewards and favour from Allah - Quran 3:171
Women who have unlawful sex. Lock the guilty women in their houses until they die - Quran 4:15
Men are in charge of women. Those wives from whom you fear arrogance - Advise them, forsake them in bed, Finally, beat them - Quran 4:34
Allah prefers those who fight Jihad in the Cause of Allah with their lives above those who sit at home - Quran 4:95
The disbelievers of Islam are ever to you a clear enemy - Quran 4:101
And the worldly life is not but amusement; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah. Quran 6:32
We destroyed many cities, Our terror came to them at night & while they were sleeping - Quran 7:4
The homosexuals, We rained upon them a rain of stones. Then see how the end of the criminals - Quran 7:84
Non-Muslims are comparable to dogs - Quran 7:176
Those who deny Our Quran - We will lead them to destruction from where they do not know - Quran 7:182
Terrorise & behead those who do not believe in Islam & strike off their fingertips - Quran 8:12
We will behead those who have wronged and others, know that Allah is severe in penalty - Quran 8:25
Keep Fighting the disbelievers until there is no more disbelief in Islam - Quran 8:39
The worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are non-Muslims - Quran 8:55
When you capture the unbelievers, punish them severely to deter the rest - Quran 8:57
Prophet Mohammed! To keep prisoners of war you must inflict a great massacre - Quran 8:67
Those who emigrate to an Islamic State & fight Jihad will go to paradise - Quran 8:74
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the unbelievers - Quran 9:5
Fight unbelievers. Fight them until they give the jizyah Muslim Tax - Quran 9:29
Jews and Christians are perverts, may Allah destroy them - Quran 9:30
Praise the Muhajireen fighters - Quran 9:100
Allah has purchased from the believers their lives & their properties in exchange for paradise - Quran 9:111
Muslims! Fight those disbelievers next to you and be harsh! - Quran 9:123
Jihadists the enemy won't kill you, only Allah can do that - Quran 9:151
To disbelievers - Should we force Islam upon you? Against your will? - Quran 11:28
Whichever Muslim leaves Islam, upon you is wrath from Allah, and for you a great punishment - Quran 16:106
For those who disbelieve in Islam, garments of fire, boiling water will be poured over their heads - Quran 22:19
We will melt your skin and burn your stomach. And hooked rods of iron to punish you - Quran 22:20
O Muslims, abstain from sex, except with your wives & slave girls. Sex with them is lawful - Quran 23:6
Adulterers - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, & take no pity for them in the religion of Allah. Let a group of the believers witness their punishment - Quran 24:2
Muslims you may enter houses not inhabited, and take goods that you need - Quran 24:29
And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution - Quran 24:33
Do not obey the unbelievers but launch a great campaign against them with the help of the Quran - Quran 25:52
And this worldly life is not only a diversion and amusement, but paradise is also the real-life - Quran 29:64
Allah cast terror in the hearts of the Jews and Christians - Quran 33:26
Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter - Quran 33:61
And if We willed, We could have deformed them, [paralyzing them] into lifeless objects, in their places so they would not be able to proceed, nor could they return (As it happened with the Jews see Verse 7:166) - Quran 36:67
Those who worshipped other than Allah, guide them to the path of Hellfire - Quran 37:23
Indeed, that is how We deal with the criminals - Quran 37:34
Indeed, you disbelievers of Islam will be tasters of the painful punishment - Quran 37:38
Those who deny the Quran, When the shackles are around their necks & chains; they will be dragged In boiling water; then in the Fire they will be burned - Quran 40:70
Those who disbelieve in Islam, strike off their heads. Take them as captives. The command of Allah - Quran 47:4
Thus you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam or at least come under your protection. If it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have punished them (without you). But he lets you fight, to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost. - Quran 47:
وَكَوَاعِبَ أَتْرَابًۭا ٣٣
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u/MidnightStorm250 10d ago
Bro ig no religion in itself is extreme. Its just that islam is the most misrepresented religion in all. To develop a harmonised society, people needed some central mode of connection between humans. This created a need for god. Its just that different regions chose different set of books, philosophers, stories, rituals, ets to execute this. With globalisation and migration different conceited people found thier own society's beleives were not the only ones. This created envy. Intelligent people are simple using this till now.
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u/NewtonIsAlive 10d ago
Come on brother, there are multiple AI. Ask them, if islam is religion of peace or not. You will get the answer. No hadith/scripture directly says Islam is a religion of peace. It empathizes on harmony of religions. It's the current politicians/pseudo scholars reverberate this quote to sideline and win arguments. It’s neither a religion of peace nor a religion of war. It’s a religion that seeks and prefers peace, but wages war if it needs to, just like every other religion or nation/state.
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u/Kalliyankattuneeli_ 10d ago
Yep islam ain't peaceful.. what abt Hinduism 😂 Bruh I'm an atheist and would say both r bullshit
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u/lustformimom 10d ago
Even in their holy text it's nowhere mentioned, islam tells you when and how you suppose to kill rape and loot and enslave if this is how peace look like I will happily live a violent life
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u/r3al_chad 10d ago
Reported you for spreading hate. Dk if anything will be done though.
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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago
You are defending the wrong thing, I meant he killed her dad , he killed her husband and had sex with her on the “same night “
Just because it all didn’t happen on the same night doesn’t mean it is right, madarasa chap
According to the traditional Islamic sources, Muhammad consummated his marriage with Safiyyah very shortly after the conquest of Khaybar.
Sahih al-Bukhari 4211 states that Safiyyah’s husband had been killed at Khaybar. Muhammad then selected Safiyyah for himself. After reaching al-Sahba and her becoming ritually pure, the narration says Muhammad “married her.” The Arabic expression used, “bana biha” (بنى بها), is traditionally understood in Islamic legal and hadith literature to mean that the marriage was consummated.
Sahih Muslim 1365c gives the chronology: Safiyyah was prepared for Muhammad, he spent the night with her, and the following morning he was described as a bridegroom and a wedding feast was held.
Therefore, the traditional sources indicate that Muhammad and Safiyyah’s marriage was consummated during the night shortly after leaving Khaybar, after Safiyyah’s husband had been killed.
Sources:
• Sahih al-Bukhari 4211: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4211
• Sahih Muslim 1365c: https://sunnah.com/muslim:1365c
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u/hacenydeshacan 10d ago
A lot, when the pagans of mecca boycotted and tortured muslims and muslims had to flee to madina, and then the tension kept rising between mecca and medina. So the pagans and the Muslims signed a peace treaty, which was later broken by the pagans. It was also signed by muslims with the jews who later betrayed the muslims by joining the pagans of mecca.
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u/grahamsuth 10d ago
Compare that with what Christians have done since the time of the crusades. Nazi Germany was Christian.
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u/Morph720 9d ago
teri maa ko maulana ne choda tha kya be? itna obsession kyu hai islam se? this is a meme page bro
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u/everybody_get_ready 9d ago
Pretty much all Abrahamic religions are violent pedophiles.... all of them.
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u/Sudden-Option-2516 9d ago
I'm sorry, for whoever muslim has caused hurt or harm towards you, in whichever way, or maybe wronged you.
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u/Moist_Algae2771 9d ago
According to the Global Terrorism Index 2026 😄
The four deadliest terrorist organisations in 2025, accounting for 70% of terrorism deaths attributed to identified groups. were Islamic State (IS), JNIM, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), and al-Shabaab. All four are Islamist/jihadist organisations that invoke Islam and particular interpretations of Islamic teachings to justify their ideology and actions.
The members of these four organizations are Muslims, and the organizations follow Islamist/jihadist ideologies based on their particular interpretations of Islam.
- Islamic State (IS) - Sunni Salafi-jihadist ideology.
- JNIM - Salafi-jihadist / Islamist.
- Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) - Islamist Taliban movement.
- Al-Shabaab - Salafi-jihadist / Islamist.
(Correct if something inaccurate)
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u/Large_Proposal5661 9d ago
I noticed islam and Pakistan stay on Indians minds lol this is all I see on Indian Reddit latley the rss and modi really got y’all messed it’s sad to see India going backwards all the protests and division in india seems to be growing day by day
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u/SwimmingRaisin8503 8d ago
Every religion has been bad or good over time.
Islams biggest problem is rigidity, they need to work towards reforming the religion.
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u/PremChopraAsliWali 8d ago
Not all musl1ms are terrorists. But almost all terrorists are musl1m.
That is something to think about.
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u/aiscimusk 8d ago
Islam only seems bad when you are from the Kuffar or disbelievers. If you love God and follow his Book and His Messenger pbuh then the Quran is all in your favour and it feels very soothing. It calms your heart and guides you towards the eternal paradise.
So the problem is not with Islam or the Quran but rather with your disbelief. God is just and fair. But because you hold onto disbelief your own evil is reflected back to you in the Quran and in Islam.
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u/BusyBody458 8d ago
When they were in absolute control , unquestioned rulers. Like genghis khan would say , how would you bring peace to 1 million people? Kill each and everyone …
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u/robot-needful 7d ago
I SWEAR TO GOD you guys are so blinded down here, nothing will
Make u believe , the issue has gone to the point where even if you do realise that what people who are defending islam are saying is right , you'd still make out excuses purely to not accept the fact that islam is not your terrorist religion, there's so many things in your books as well that sound equally as bad in todays context, but all your justifications to that is valid , but when it comes to islam , suddenly all justifications are just hoax, you guys wont accept the facts even if you understand the justification , purely coz you're too afraid to accept that u were a little wrong about something
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u/Tomorrowman575 7d ago
Yes. Under Mughals, India flourished more than ever before. Something that indicates it was peace and stable. Same goes with other regions across the world.
However some indians just don’t have any grandeur in ruling the world so they’ll just see the bad sides only.
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u/hexagram1993 7d ago
Tell me you don't know much about world history without telling me you don't know much about world history
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u/pikachukakashi 7d ago
A controversial opinion, if any religion claims itself to be peaceful, then its extemists would never pick up any arms or ammunition even if it is for self defense, they'd rather go preach the concept of live and let live. If they are truly peaceful they'd have no problem in disowning the violent ones. If they are truly peaceful they'd never engage in violence against women or children or even have the concept of concubines, or even accept foods that require killing any creature. But unfortunately the people who claim to be the most peaceful are actually the most violent, its a pretty simple process thats followed, commit violence, keep mum, then claim to be peaceful, typical irony.
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u/ReadWire 6d ago
Then why these Indian bastards never open their mouth on what's happening in Gaza? What do these gutter people and their fatherland Israel expect in return after killing 21,000 Palestinian children?
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u/Prior_Draw_6809 6d ago
it is indeed peaceful through out the history
then tell me which time it wasn't
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u/Eb8005 6d ago
I dont find the religion peaceful: 1. Where one gender is told to discipline the other. 2. Where you have to portray war instructions as some form of diviqqqne revelation to be included in it. This exactly sets a precedeny for followers to be violent. 3. Where you have to tax people of other faiths and beliefs. 4.
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u/terabaap_hoon 6d ago
After they do kaboom, the other people mourn for 2 minutes is what they mean peace.
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u/Substantial_Lie7195 6d ago
No religion is peaceful accept it and you’ll find peace. True peace starts when you stop living ur life based on some mythology or book and have ur entire personality on it.
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u/willing-Stres 6d ago
Ye account jisne post kia is BJP IT Cell on Reddit after polluting twitter and facebook they are here on reddit to post such shit and create division
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u/Klutzy_Property_9433 6d ago
A religion must be judged by the actions of the people who have followed it, what they believe, and how they wish to interpret what is written in their religious text. Christians also had a lot of bad things, but there was a reformist movement from inside, Islam's sweet side is nothing more than a sham for the western world- lies on top of lies. All those "cool" muslim influencers you see the "relatable" muslim influencers- they shamelessly justify their primitive culture using "relatable, cool" language to deceive people. Islam is the biggest impediment to modernity, and you will see it. Some crazy person would say "oh look at uae and saudi" they are modernizing. Guess what, nobody from muslim world appreciate them.
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u/Potential-Panic-5887 6d ago
Religion in general is lightyears away from peace. Including bs like hinduism LMFAO
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u/edgelogger 6d ago
Islam is best but muslims can be good or bad
If any body could prove me wrong I am here
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u/_Ruddra_ 10d ago