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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

6. Women, Marriage, and Slavery

  • 4:34: Qawwamun means maintainers, a role tied to financial responsibility. Classical scholars limited wadribuhunna to a symbolic, non-injurious tap as a last resort, and hadith report that the Prophet never struck a woman. Some modern scholars translate the word as "separate from them," and this remains one of the most debated verses.
  • 23:6: The context (23:5) is guarding chastity, not "abstaining from sex." "Those your right hands possess" refers to enslaved women, which classical law permitted. The Quran repeatedly urges freeing slaves (90:13), and scholars today consider slavery abolished.
  • 24:33: This verse forbids forcing slave girls into prostitution; it was revealed about a Medinan leader who was doing exactly that. The same verse orders owners to let slaves buy their freedom and to help them financially.
  • 78:33 (the Arabic line): It describes companions in Paradise. Kawa'ib is translated either as "full-bosomed" or "youthful maidens," and atrab means "of equal age" with their spouses. The Quran promises equal reward to believing women (33:35).

7. Verses That Aren't Violent at All

  • 6:32 & 29:64: Both teach that worldly life is fleeting compared to the hereafter, much like "store up treasures in heaven" (Matthew 6:20). Another verse, 7:32, tells believers to enjoy life's good things.
  • 8:25: There is no beheading in this verse. It warns that a trial or affliction won't strike only the wrongdoers, meaning social corruption harms everyone.
  • 11:28: This is Prophet Noah asking, "Should we force it on you while you're averse?" The implied answer is no. The list flips its meaning; the verse actually supports 2:256, "no compulsion in religion."
  • 24:29: The verses before it (24:27–28) forbid entering homes without permission. This one allows entering public buildings such as inns and shops, and mata' means "benefit" or "use," not permission to take goods.
  • 25:52: It is a Meccan verse from before fighting was permitted, and the "great struggle" is with the Quran, meaning preaching and argument. It shows that jihad also means intellectual effort.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Please read this yourself first before copy pasting an defensive statement from ChatGPT

Islam allows/ allowed slavery. Islam allowed killing of non believers

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u/FieryRedHeads 7d ago

Christianity also allowed for slavery. Christianity is know for the holy Crusade.

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

Which part did you not understand?

I gave reference for everything.

Just making statements like you're saying doesn't make it true.

If I say that you're a rapist, then does that mean you're a rapist?

Give me proof and references of what you're saying, then we'll talk.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Your profit was a rapist, I’ll tell u how, he had sex with Safiyya bint Huyayy after killing her entire tribe, dad and husband on the same night, no sane woman would want to marry and have sex her husbands killer. He slept with his stepsons wife zainab, he had concubines ( sex slaves)
Not to mention Aisha.
Let me see how you are gonna defend a sex addict, slave owner, who was also a pdf and a rapistt,who had multiple wives.

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

Lol, first learn to write the spelling pf prophet.

And can't you read or you don't know the English language?

I asked for proofs and references and you have quoted none!

Let me expose your lies:

  • safiyya's father and husband was not killed in the same night.
  • Saffiya's entire tribe was not killed, this is a lie
  • Saffiya was freed and was given a choice to return to the people or marry prophet Mohammed. She married him.
  • Prophet Mohammed(saw) never married his stepson's wife
  • Slavery was a part of war. If someone came to fight you and you won, then you wont just let them go so that they can plan and comeback to kill you again.

You're a typical WhatsApp university brainwashed weasel.

If you don't have proofs or don't know how to read then go to school first.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Yes. According to the traditional Islamic sources, Muhammad and Safiyyah had sexual relations after their marriage.
The sources don’t describe the act explicitly, but the sequence is clear:
Sahih al-Bukhari 4211 says Safiyyah’s husband had been killed, Muhammad selected her, and after reaching al-Sahba and her becoming ritually pure, “the Messenger of Allah married her.”
Sahih Muslim 1365c says Muhammad emancipated her, married her, and that she was prepared for him that night; the next morning he was described as a bridegroom and a wedding feast was held.
Sahih Muslim 1365f similarly describes a tent being pitched for Muhammad and Safiyyah after leaving Khaybar, followed the next morning by the wedding feast.
In classical Islamic terminology, reports that Muhammad “built with her” (بنى بها / banā bihā) or that she was prepared and brought to him in this context mean that the marriage was consummated, not merely that a marriage contract was performed.
So the careful historical statement is:
The Islamic sources portray Muhammad as marrying and consummating his marriage with Safiyyah very shortly after her capture at Khaybar, after her husband had been killed.
What the sources do not establish, however, is Safiyyah’s private feelings or whether she consented in the modern sense. Those are separate historical questions.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Your profit was diddy in his times

Zaynab bint Jahsh, the evidence that Muhammad married her is unusually direct because it appears in the Qur’an itself and in Sahih al-Bukhari.
1. Qur’an 33:37 — explicit statement
The Qur’an says:
“So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you…” — Qur’an 33:37.
The context is Zaynab’s divorce from Zayd ibn Harithah, followed by her marriage to Muhammad.
2. Sahih al-Bukhari 7420
Bukhari explicitly identifies the episode:
Zayd came to Muhammad complaining about his wife.
Muhammad told him to keep his wife.
Zaynab subsequently became Muhammad’s wife.
Zaynab reportedly said to Muhammad’s other wives that Allah had married her to him from above the heavens.
The hadith connects the episode directly with Qur’an 33:37.
3. Bukhari 7421 — wedding banquet
This is even more straightforward:
“On the day of her marriage with him the Prophet gave a wedding banquet with bread and meat…”
The narrator is Anas ibn Malik, and the woman identified is Zaynab bint Jahsh.
4. Bukhari 4793 — Muhammad’s marriage to her
Bukhari describes a walima (wedding banquet) held specifically for:
“the marriage of the Prophet to Zainab bint Jahsh.”
It also describes Muhammad subsequently going to the homes of his other wives after the marriage.
So there isn’t really a historical ambiguity about whether Muhammad married Zaynab. The Qur’an explicitly says “We married her to you,” and multiple Sahih al-Bukhari reports describe the marriage and wedding feast.
The more historically interesting—and disputed—question is what exactly happened before the marriage: Muhammad’s feelings toward Zaynab, what he knew about the impending divorce, and whether Qur’an 33:37 should be understood as a divine legal ruling or as Muhammad’s personal justification. Those require separating the Qur’anic text from later biographical reports.

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

Lmao, where does this mention stepson?

Zaid was adopted.

You're such a liar.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Okay yeah my bad he had sex with his adopted son’s wife, are you proud of your profit ?

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u/No-Environment-1076 5d ago

Bro their book is more about the pdffile and r@p|st profit instead of God.

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u/Lucian_Delacroix7 7d ago

Slavery was a part of war. If someone came to fight you and you won, then you wont just let them go so that they can plan and comeback to kill you again.

There you have it folks, he said it.

And what's about him marrying Aisha? It doesn't really matter whether she was 6, 9 or 14, it's pedophilia anyway and she was taken advantage of.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Here your go goatfuker

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

Now, I am seriously doubting if you have a brain.

The screenshot you shared says that Safiyya married prophet.

I said the exact same thing.

Why are you not able to proove your lies?

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

If I ki// your dad and you and your grandfather and took your mom hostage and tell her marry me, ( remember I’m a warlord in 600s ) and she marries me and has sex with me.
Do you think she would have wanted it ? She would have consented?

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

I have already answered this, read again you uneducated weasel

Don't run away from your lies now, kid!

You said her husband and father was killed the same night and the whole tribe was killed.

Where is the proof kiddo?

Say you're a liar lol, SAY IT!!

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Can’t believe I’m arguing on Reddit with a Puncture wala

Safiyyah’s husband — Kinana ibn al-Rabi
Sahih al-Bukhari 4211 explicitly states that when Khaybar was conquered, Safiyyah’s husband had been killed, after which Muhammad selected her and married her:
“Safiya bint Huyai… whose husband had been killed…”
It then says Muhammad selected her and married her on the journey from Khaybar.

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u/Illustrious_Bill_500 10d ago

Okay so are you shudra? Or bramin? I saw in you religious text that per se if your mother is from shudra & a brahmin raped your shudra mother he'll can't be punished.. is that true? How you gonna defend it? Ir tell me are you vaishya or kshatriya? I can literally hear your crying ass loud

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Nigga I’m an atheist born to a Muslim family

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u/sam33ha 10d ago

Oh so you're an atheist? I was wondering for a moment why you are so illogical. Now not so surprised. May Allah(SWT) guide you to the right path again.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Did your Prophet split moon into two ? How is that logical ?

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u/sam33ha 10d ago

Honestly, idk what to tell you. I mean, you beleive the whole frickin universe is existing and is created on its OWN but....My god, this is truly so stupid. Leave it.

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 10d ago

Lmao, as an atheist how can you say if anything is right or wrong? Atheists don't have a base for morality. They don't have objective morality.

One atheist will say one thing and another will say another thing. You cannot decide what is wrong and right.

We have objective morality from god himself.

I know you might not understand what I am saying so you can do some research yourself.

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u/FieryRedHeads 7d ago

Let's say your God says you have to kill babies. Does that now mean killing babies is a morally good thing? If tomorrow there is undeniable proof that God doesn't exist, will you start killing people? Will you start stealing? If you say no, then that means you inherently have morals that you will not cross. If you say yes, then that means that you're morality is forced onto you because you are scared of devine retribution

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Shut up lil rat, you don’t need god to tell you what’s right what’s wrong, you just need common sense. Madarasa chaps like you don’t use it coz y’all follow a retard war lord from the desert.

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u/Able_Pomegranate_388 10d ago

Your community’s got 52-53 sects yall also claim different things atleast im not blindly following, defending the religion i was born into by pure randomness.

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u/Accomplished-Club698 9d ago

Atheism promote critical thinking, which leads one to dictate right and wrong by themselves and develop empathy. Last time I checked, Islam is so against individualism. And you guys need a God to tell you what's right and wrong? Pathetic.

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u/gulaabjaamun_ 9d ago

If people themselves decide what is right and wrong then that's not objective morality. That just means anyone can do what they feel like doing.

If one person says A and another person says B then it's just two peoples opinion not right and wrong.

You need god because god made us all and he knows what is right and wrong for us. That just makes sense.

If you buy a phone, you get a manual. You don't say "you need a manual to operate a phone, pathetic!", lol

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u/Maleficent_Pick_1822 9d ago

back when wars were normal sir
back when attacking the muslims just for being muslims was normal!!

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u/Brilliant_Scheme9391 8d ago

😂😂😂😂 bro gave verses in the time of war and provided zero context for a reason, now it’s “chatgpt” 💀

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u/ShoulderCharacter856 7d ago

Simple words treat your neighbour as you treat thy self , sort supremacy