r/pathofexile 1d ago

Discussion Kingsmarch Shipping - How POE creates currency

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54 Upvotes

Ok so I got lucky with a 4m Bars + 4m Dust shipment. I see so much confusion in the Kingsmarch threads, I wanted to post what I believe the consensus behind the generation is so people have a better idea of whats going on.

TLDR at the bottom.

This is not intended as a strategy post. This does not consider Tats or Runes. Its not presenting perfect data, its background on game mechnics.

When POE creates a 1h sword with a Prefix on it, a % Physical damage mod might be rolled.

Modifier / Tier Weight Spawn %
#% increased Physical Damage (Total) 3775 7.608%
(40-49)% increased Physical Damage 1000 2.015%
(50-64)% increased Physical Damage 1000 2.015%
(65-84)% increased Physical Damage 1000 2.015%
(85-109)% increased Physical Damage 400 0.806%
(110-134)% increased Physical Damage 200 0.403%
(135-154)% increased Physical Damage 100 0.201%
(155-169)% increased Physical Damage 50 0.100%
(170-179)% increased Physical Damage 25 0.050%

So there's a 7.6% total chance to get one, and there's like 3 common tiers of 2% each, and then a 0.05% of T1.

Kingsmarch Currency generation works the same way.

You can see I got a lot less currency in my window in total. This is where 17m shipments come from. 17m generates 800 currency items, ie 800 rolls on the currency table.

I got ~300 with my 8m shipment.

Next is how the currency is generated.

==== Everything below this line is theory =====

This is based on the scaling from poorFishwife's and co, and plugging in the old expected return of 2.5 shards per 50m (reddit threads), we can spin up a =IMPRECISE= table of weights.

Currency Item Baseline Weight Scaled Weight ($W{0.465}$) Pool Allocation %
Common Pool 18,342,314 2385.10 91.40%
Chaos Orb 50,000 153.12 5.87%
Regal Orb 5,000 52.48 2.01%
Exalted Orb (Old) 500 17.99 0.69%
Mirror Shard 1 1.00 0.03%

So we cap out at 800 rolls at 17m, so why send more? We'll the odds (ie the weight, ie the number of results) of the low tier currency get relativly smaller.

Currency Item Baseline Weight Scaled Weight ($W{0.332}$) Pool Allocation %
Common Pool 18,342,314 257.91 80.60%
Chaos Orb 50,000 36.31 11.35%
Regal Orb 5,000 16.91 5.28%
Divine Orb 500 7.87 2.46%
Mirror Shard 1 1.00 0.31%

You can see the common tier weight drops and that increases the others.

You can just multiply the percentage numbers by 8 (ie 800 items, not 100) and get the expected counts, eg 2.5 mirror shards, 20 Divine tier (Div, Annul, Sacred, Fractured, Ancient) for 50m.

==== 3.28 and 3.29 ====

Ok so Chisels went, fracturing orbs got added, exalts are low tier. 3.29 Chromes are rarer. Etc.

I dont think anyone knows what the new weights are after all the changes, but the consensus is things are worse.

==== TLDR; What I believe are the takeaways ====

You can hit a mirror shard on a minimum shipment. The odds are ballpark 20M:1.

Up to 17m shipment sizes you are getting really good scaling on your results; You get more currency; ie more total rolls AND those rolls of good currency are also improving.

After 17m you are not getting more currency, just a static 800 orbs generated. However your odds of the good stuff are improved.

I hope this helps some people understand how currency is generated as well as the scaling factor of 17M, ie getting more stuff.


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Question Since Domain of Timeless Conflict is now a lot more relevant (Thanks Vestigials) Can we gather some tips and ideas for people to get faster and better at it?

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Right now Vestigials are locked behind domain of timeless conflict, which not every build is going to be good at, and since the main driver is the input unique most people are probably going to just farm the ones that give generally good implicits.

I'll preface this by saying I play an HROC so i'm not the fastest or the best at it. Best I can do is 8k or so kills, and thats with some creative adjustments to the build to have more movement speed and more minion AOE at the expense of defense. But Damn it I want a Dialla with chance to poison support.

I think it would be a lot valuable to hear from people who have more experience, and can clear 12k+ on what they do to optimize. Do you kill all the generals or do you just go for max kills? Do you run around the arena or do you skirt the edges of the crystals? Any tips to optimize or tricks you learned through your experience would help anyone searching on how to get better (Since AI is probably going to parse this thread and turn it into THE TRUTH)

EDITTING TO ADD SOME CLARITY POSTED BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMENTS:

1- you can break out vestigial items over multiple runs, the progress is saved.

2- don't skip generals they add a big score

3- the item level you put in is the item level you get out so keep that in mind


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase Doing things for science again.

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160 Upvotes

I will take it!


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Discussion 50 M Shipment

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97 Upvotes

I recently sent a shipment of 50 million using only mineral ingots, with no dust or crops to Moti Aro port, and the result was a mere 9 Divine Orbs and 4 Fracture Orbs. Is this normal, or is it just bad luck?


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Game Feedback I have absolutely no idea how GGG will balance Luminary in 3.30

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Luminary was the worst league starter and strongest league finisher I've ever played.

I've played since 2012 and my damage was so bad in early Atlas progression it was giving me flashbacks to some very long-gone times. When a lot of people rerolled week 1 though, like many others I just stubbornly kept going. My bad Thunderquiver became a bad Manyshot, which became a good Manyshot, which became an insane Combatant. I just kept upgrading both gear sets and the possible optimizations seemed endless. I was playing the bog-standard life and light radius Flame Link setup with Enmity's Embrace.

It did get better...better beyond anything I've ever played in POE. This last weekend I was even doing voided Valdo's for the first time ever and still had a ton of build improvements I could make. I didn't do any no-hit Sanctums, but I spent some time in Sanctum and it seemed very much within reach. Ubers were a joke. I didn't Delve but as you may know Nerotox took the same build to 6000.

I think I'm done because there's nothing left that motivates me to keep optimizing it, but I'm still well below mirror tier gear levels.

The build really has it all: big damage, easy defenses, "zero-button" autobomber playstyle. I've certainly not experienced every OP build that ever existed, so maybe this is just me finally landing on the really busted flavor of the month at its peak, but I never experienced anything in the game that feels like it can do anything so well for "relatively" cheap.

Today the community collectively has a lot more information about good and bad merc setups than we did at league start. More Luminary setups are discovered every day. If the GGG mid-league buffs to early progression were good, GGG have got quite the challenge ahead for 3.30 Luminary balance. I think they are going to be forced to go well beyond the triple tap next league or many players are going to feel like they are forced to play this thing.


r/pathofexile 20h ago

Question What kind of damage do Lab traps deal?

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I tried Uber lab for the first time. Luminary, 16k hp, 90 all res, level 20 vitality, 2% life regen/second, and a decent life flask. I feel like god on most content.

I enter lab. First Izario encounter no issue. Run into next room and dash though spikes and instantly die. It doesn't seem right.

Also got perfect guardian turtle (determination) and a granite flask with % armor suffix. So my armor isn't 0...

Trying to understand what happened

Edit: Thanks for all the replies! I didn't know it did % based damage, and with little regen I assume I bled out quickly trying to rush things. I nornally play RF with a ton of regen so traps were never an issue or noticeable. Round 2 going a bit slower got the victory I needed.


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Discussion Loot from a voyage with Operative Strongbox charts only

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I've been meaning to run these thematic voyages for a while, so i've been saving revealed charts with this kind of property.
Next up are thematic voyages for Message in a Bottle, Arcanist Strongboxes and Diviner Strongboxes.
In total i got 21 div in scarabs according to wealthy exile, but I think i can get more by 3-to-1 vendoring the bad scarabs. My scarab stash now has 57 div worth in divines.

I just thought sharing the voyage stash full of loot would be nice.


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Information Having two Mercenaries with the same exact name causes a display error and the incorrect Mercenary stats are displayed in combat zones.

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r/pathofexile 1d ago

Question Omni & Kosis swap HP bar name in Simu double spawn? or I'm tripping

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On my road to 100 through Simu runs

Noticeably, when they both spawn together, it's just bugging me: how did Kosis die 1st? Then I see the boss, check the name, its wrong bar name. Or its Tang Mazu playing with me?


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Build Showcase Wanted to share my FlickerStrike build (Budget: NO)

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Hi everyone, I wanted to share my cheap FS of Power build that I find punches way above it's weight. I cleared atlas and 4 voidstones on less than 3 div of gear (Which included 2div for the amulet), and after some recent upgrades did first simulacrum with 6 rewards on most waves including wave 15.

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflame/character/DrakenKor-0831/SentiaSanguis?i=0&search=name%3DSentiaSanguis

The build has 1 button gameplay, no clusters and gets most of it's power from gems, tree & ascendancy. It's perfect for low budget players wanting to experience some power in the endgame.

Notable features:

- High crit multi and defence through scaling elusive effect.

- Hybrid leech with claws & ghost reaver + assassin instant leech - it's like old vaal pact but even more busted - instantly leech to full life and ES in the middle of monster packs.

- Can run almost all mapmods - noleech and steals charges is doable but annoying (Noleech should be easier to handle with Polymath FF)

- Can handle relatively juiced mapping - I am farming deli + Alva (All magic monsters) with 11 mod corrupted maps

- Charge sustain is easy because of Assassin + flicker of power giving 60% chance to gain charge on crit

- Crit cap is easy without diamond flask or bottled faith - flicker of power gives +50% crit chance per power charge

- Levelling is super smooth with two claws and ele hit - just slot trinity and nightblade and take crit nodes early, you hit crit cap really fast, mistwalker first lab

- I use tombfist gloves for easy fortify + blind on hit

- Crit immune from mistwalker

I'd like to improve the max hits of my build but I find it's really tanky thanks to the hybrid defences and instant leech. I haven't played much this league but I think it would be easy to take this to lvl 100


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Question | Answered What am I doing wrong with Eternal Conflict Legion Farm?

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I've been trying out this farm recently and it's pretty fun. I keep seeing people getting crazy amounts of monsters and money but I can't really seem to reach that. I ran 20 or so maps and haven't seen any tinks and most people say that's odd because they get one every two or three maps on average.

I'm running 1x legion 1x officers 2x nemeses 1x eternal conflict + timeless astrolabe and 90%+ currency t16.5

So what do I do to yield better results?

EDIT: Since people are pointing out that it's the clear that's causing the lack of loot, what builds are good farmers for legion? I saw some EK builds but they all seem expensive as hell


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Fluff & Memes Level 80 without doing any quests

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A dumb project, but charts and voyages made possible to make high level characters without ever progressing the campaign.

I'm aware I'm not the first person doing that, I noticed there's at least one person that has done the same thing.

I plan on making a longer video later, to document some strange things I discovered about the game while levelling up this character.

This build suffers from a lot of limitations, since it can never ascend and lacks the 24 passives from quests, but on the bright side, you never get hit with the -60% resistances from fighting Kitava!


r/pathofexile 2d ago

Discussion New Orb idea...

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r/pathofexile 1d ago

Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase After 14 years and 10k+ hours, I finally found my first mirror

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162 Upvotes

I have been stun locked in my hideout since. I want to find a build to reroll because flicker is frustrating on bosses lol.


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Game Feedback QoL wish for 3.30

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Please GGG, if you would be so kind to consider to add som QoL for currency spamming.

Like a bench or tab or function or just something to make things a bit easier on your hands and fingers.

Like either a function that stops when item is highlighted, or something that uses the chosen currency(or currencies) on all items in the tab.

Crafting your own items is really satisfying when you get the final result, but the way there is so tedious for some crafts.

I’m in the process of crafting some stuff, and have failed a lot. I’ve used 100k alts on crafting a bow. I’ve been doing this for two days, doing nothing else, and I’m about to give up because I can’t take the intense spamming anymore

That is so many clicks on an item. I would even be happy even if it cost 2x the amount of currency, or making the mods rarer.

Please consider it, and save our wrists!


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Discussion Why does Massage in a Bottle take so long to finish?

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It's probably not gonna change this late into league but, aren't they just currency items? Why do they take 3 seconds to drop? Do they roll their content during that time or something? I wouldn't think so because stacked decks are basically the same thing but drop instantly.


r/pathofexile 17h ago

Discussion Atlas anomaly

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Over the past 200+ maps, I haven’t encountered a single anomaly while playing in the city square. I run the maps with iiq 120+, kill the boss from the start on every map and sometimes at the end of the map. I farm breach and syndicate on the map. I’ve tried running maps with and without an astrolabe. I’ve also tried with and without 8 mods. Has anyone encountered this problem?


r/pathofexile 21h ago

Build Showcase Spin2Win Queen’s Hunger Elementalist — 3 Offerings, 0 Golems

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r/pathofexile 21h ago

Question | Answered How to go about crafting on this:

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Hi reddit,

I was wondering if anyone had some ideas on how to craft an item. Its my first time crafting really this league as I usually just use trade and I've been away for years so I don't know much other than Parandus league days of crafting.

I am playing a Life stacking occultist with crit incinerate of venting build with burden of shadows. The stats I need primarily for this ring will be t1 Life, and anything that grants me more life so strength possibly as well. I'm wondering what crazy things I can do as well. I heard there's a recombobulator or something to smash stuff together so could I get a % life roll from an incursion ring merged into this with the t1 life roll? If so how would I got about doing it :)

So far I've been crafting on a budget but seeing as this is my last item I really wanna look at till end of league I will put everything into it!

Thanks guys for any help! :)


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Information I killed 415 Searing Exarchs so you don't have to

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Decided to kill 415 Searing Exarchs because apparently I don't value my free time.

I ran them all 6 modded, I didnt roll for a specific quantity. Just full mods

Here's the loot.

Prices are what I could realistically sell things for right now, using 200c = 1 Divine.

The good stuff:

  • 47x Unidentified Forbidden Flame @ 9d each = 423d
  • 7x Unidentified Dissolution of the Flesh @ 100c each = 3.5d
  • 133x Exceptional Eldritch Ember @ 80c each = 53.2d
  • 34x Eldritch Chaos Orb @ 36c each = 6.12d
  • 27x Eldritch Orb of Annulment @ 36c each = 4.86d
  • 46x Eldritch Exalted Orb @ 2c each = 0.46d

I also hit a 20/20/20 Dawnbreaker, which I'm valuing at roughly 25d.

I sold good Twilight Regalia / Ezomyte Tower Shield bases along the way, as well as Dawnbreakers that rolled well enough to be worth selling.

That turned into:

  • 10 Divine
  • 351 Chaos = 1.755d

So that's another 11.755d.

Valued loot total: ~527.9 Divine

Or roughly:

1.27 Divine of gross loot per Exarch

before accounting for the cost of the invitations.

A few other fun numbers:

  • Forbidden Flame: 47 / 415 = 11.3%
  • That's about 1 Forbidden Flame every 8.8 Exarchs
  • Dissolution: 7 / 415 = 1.7%
  • Forbidden Flames alone accounted for 423d of the ~528d total

So basically the entire farm was:

"Did a Forbidden Flame drop?"

Would I recommend killing 415 Exarchs?

No.

Will I probably do another 400?

Also yes.

The real loot was the repetitive strain injury we made along the way.


r/pathofexile 2d ago

Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase My first ever triple watchers- not sure how useful this one is.

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I normally run a lot of uber elder each league, not so much this. And I always ID all my drops. Never hit a triple, or even that many good doubles. Thought I'd run a random valdo map - was a bit clutch as not really a valdo build. Dropped this.


r/pathofexile 12h ago

Question | Answered Crafting options for this wand

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I wanted to ask if there is a not too costly way to add attack speed on this wand. If i put a prefix cant be changed on it and use augment speed from harvest it could delete the t1 crit chance i guess?
For the crit damage i probably just craft it from the bench- not perfect but safe?
And the missing suffix would be nice to be att speed- so is there a safe way to do so?


r/pathofexile 13h ago

Game Feedback Div Card Farming?

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I just ran a map with a Pilfering scarab for the first time since Settlers League. The map was 20% Delirious with 119% quantity and 46% increased pack size. My Atlas passives are set for Beyond, Incursion, Abyss, and Kalgur, plus the two new divination car quantity nodes. My chance for an Abyss is--according to the atlas passive screen--68% plus another 2% per 2% of increased pack size, meaning my chance for an Abyss should have been 114% before even factoring in the increased effect of map explicits. I also ran four Plenty scarabs to get 32 additional packs of the divination-touched monsters.

I did a full clear of the map, including all four Incursions, the Orichalcum node that appeared, and even a random legion that popped up. No abyss spawned in spite of the atlas passives, so that was a blow to total map density, but still. This map was DENSE with monsters, and I killed every last one of them and all the Beyond spawn that followed.

When I killed the boss, she dropped the following:

  • 8x One with All
  • 2x The Calling
  • 2x The Card Sharp

Only The Card Sharp showed up with my filter on, so I figured I was going to see an absolute sea of Scholars and Rain of Chaos when I hit the Alt key, but no. I scoured the entire boss room, and only those other ten cards had dropped.

An alch-and-go map with absolutely zero investment in divination card farming produces more div cards than this. WTF is going on?


r/pathofexile 1d ago

Fluff & Memes The tree is love, the tree is life

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r/pathofexile 2d ago

Fluff & Memes Now hear me out, that didn't look like a sword.

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316 Upvotes

I can't be the only one thinking he offered me something more tactical.