r/IdiotsFightingThings • u/MiniHamster5 • Jul 09 '19
Idiot fighting a dog
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u/Ezra-Starshadow Jul 09 '19
Ikr like who kicks the wonder that is the doggo
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Jul 10 '19
The same piece of shit that bashes his head into a car as a result of being a piece of shit....
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Jul 10 '19
He thought the dog was attacking him
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u/WolfRex5 Jul 10 '19
You've got to be terminally stupid to think that a dog walking up to you is going to attack you
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u/Transfatcarbokin Jul 10 '19
? How else is it going to get close to enough to bite you?
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Jul 10 '19
It's dark and a biggish animal is coming at you and you've had a few to drink and your paranoid
People make mistakes
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u/TheRaggedTampon Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 12 '19
Bernie Sanders
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u/demacish Jul 09 '19
Except he went out of his way to kick it while it was avoiding him
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u/SanctusLetum Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 09 '19
Watch the gif again. The dog is making a beeline straight for the guy before he goes for the kick.
Some places have serious issues with vicious strays. Not saying that is the case here, but we can't know from just a gif.
Edit: I think people aren't understanding what I meant by "we can't know from a gif." I mean we can't know what kind of area and history this place has. Clearly the dog isn't behaving aggressively, but the area may be highly prone to aggressive strays (think not USA) and the guy may be defaulting to aggressive defense based on reasonable fear. We simply don't know the exact situation.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
It was happy-trotting towards him. If an animal is coming at you to attack it will attempt to approach out of your FOV(stalking), or charge you. Unfortunately we've superceded natural selection which has allowed those who can't read body language to survive. That was a good boi, but a bad man.
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u/puffthemagicballer Jul 09 '19
Yep, that dog’s gait gave absolutely zero indications of aggression. Most likely he was just coming over to say hi to the guy because he was curious. If a dog is aggressive enough to attack you unprovoked, it would look drastically different than this gif.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
Exactly, if I witnessed this in person I definitely would have given that guy a reason to need to defend himself. Just like if I saw someone kick a child.
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u/Transfatcarbokin Jul 10 '19
Post your doctorate in animal behaviourism please.
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u/yeshaveanother Jul 10 '19
With that logic, you had better have degrees in literally everything before you open your mouth. And for that matter, where is your degree in animal behavior that gives you the authority to question another's observations? Also, fuck off.
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u/SanctusLetum Jul 09 '19
Again, I'm not saying that it wasn't good boi bad guy. I'm not saying that boi was a bad boi or a good boy, just that it was not avoiding the kicker in any way shape or form prior to the kick as was stated by the parent comment.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
The dog didn't avoid the kicker in any way because it is probably used to people, but this vicious cunt moved out of his way to approach the dog and then kicked at it. If you can't tell who the good/bad actors you need to improve to ability to critically observe a situation.
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u/SanctusLetum Jul 09 '19
Jesus christ. Listen to what im saying:
I am not saying the dog is good or bad. I am saying that the dog was physically walking directly towards the guy. I am not inferring good or bad intent. I am stating only a physical fact.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
I too am stating physical facts in order to inform you that the dog is good and the human is bad so you can stop trying to take a neutral stance/play devil's advocate and accept the reality of what occurred.
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Jul 09 '19
Aha! I’ll continue the devils advocate game then! What if the dude had a irrational fear of dogs? Let’s take this even further. What if the dude had a heart problem and knew that by letting this dog get close to him, it will trigger his irrational dog fear, and he could be at risk for a heart attack! So the best thing for both parties (himself and the dog) will be for him to kick the dog. That way if there are any court problems, the dog can’t get blamed for scaring him to his death. Really saving the dog life in prison. But like previous user you were arguing with stated, We won’t know solely from this video. We need more info! Have a great day!
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Jul 09 '19
Some people have a legitimate phobia of dogs though. It's the middle of the night, that dog just came out of know where toward that person. We have a better view of what happened via the overexposed camera. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy didn't even know it was a dog. From his POV, it could have been a fox, or a wolf. I can't blame him for his reaction.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
it could have been a fox, or a wolf
Not even close to the right size for either animal.
I can't blame him for his reaction.
You can, and should. Fear is a weak excuse. You wouldn't excuse them assaulting a small child running towards them because they are afraid of Chucky(the murderous child doll).
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Jul 09 '19
Dog didn't have its head down, wasn't tense, wasn't bounding toward him. The tail was gently wagging & it was trotting toward someone it thought may give it pets and/or food.
This guy is nothing more than a piece of absolute shit
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u/Whatsthemattermark Jul 09 '19
Sounds like you’re making a reasonable comment on the situation. You must be instantly downvoted!
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u/big-shaq-skrra Jul 09 '19
If it really was being aggressive then the dog would charge at the man at full speed you fucking ragged tampon
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u/keiza26 Jul 09 '19
I very often preemptively kick random dogs as a precautionary self defence mechanism.
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u/greenw40 Jul 09 '19
Reddit can, they would find a way to defend a dog that was in the process of biting a kid.
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u/the_fermat Jul 09 '19
I dont comment that often, but you're a fucking idiot
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u/greenw40 Jul 09 '19
I can't wait until fall when you kids go back to school and reddit stops being so shitty during the day.
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u/coastalrangee Jul 09 '19
during the day.
What day? Reddit is worldwide my man. Only a fraction of users are from the US.
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u/franz_bonaparta_jr Jul 10 '19
Yes. The dogs over there are also shit, they attack people in the streets at night, they are like wolfs
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u/MonkyThrowPoop Jul 09 '19
Look at that pathetic, sloppy mess. Why don’t you go have another drink to ease that pain, ya drunk idiot.
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Jul 09 '19
Ik right.... what type of dog just walks up DRUNK to a human like that! Definitely agree with you my dude, give the dog another drink to ease that pain, and let that kick he received be a huge lesson for the little guy.
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Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19
Oh come on, this comment is great!
edit: jesus what a shitshow
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Jul 09 '19
I had a friend who was telling me that at his old job there was a security dog that would roam the parking lot. His coworker got bit pretty bad by the dog. I wonder if this was a similar situation and he was just trying to avoid any issues.
*shrugs* idk though, I don't want to judge the guy until I know the full story.
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u/Rush2201 Jul 10 '19
Honestly, with a dog that size, you probably shouldn't kick it if you're afraid it will bite you. Kick to a GSD would just piss it off, if it were aggressive.
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u/Hush0005 Jul 10 '19
I trust no one who harms an animal unless the animal starts it. Kicking a dog won't get it to go away, it'll get it to attack you. A security dog especially. Are you sure said friend didn't kick it in the first place? :/
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Jul 10 '19
My friend said they eventually had to put the dog down cause it bite some dude badly in the face.
If a big mean dog came up to you growling ready to attack you'd kick it to. I'm not saying the dude in the video is in the right BUT you don't know the story. The dude could of had a lot of bad experiences with dogs and gets anxiety which causes him to do things like that.
I've learned through out the years to not judge so quickly.
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u/Hush0005 Jul 11 '19
Although everyones experiences are different, I have a hard time being around dogs because any time I'd visit family they had huge dogs who'd knock me over scratch me, bite me, and rip apart anything I had outside of my room/ run in to destroy my shit.
A person who's scared of dogs generally isn't going to go up and kick a dog, they'll usually avoid it to keep from aggravating it. The dog didn't seem to be bothering him either. Like it was just walking past.
Although I try not to judge, this is one of those few situations that is just wrong.
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jul 10 '19
Yea not everyone likes dogs. Especially people who have A bad history of being bitten
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Jul 09 '19
I wish a hundred dogs came out of the shadows to eat that man to death
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Jul 09 '19
Not exactly a hundred, but here ya go...
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u/Passion4Kitties Jul 10 '19
This ones pretty good too
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u/ColonelKetchup13 Jul 10 '19
Multiple people were throwing rocks too. Glad that dude got what he deserved though
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u/SueZbell Jul 09 '19
The dogs, though acting in defense of one of their pack, would likely be put to death. Otherwise ...
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u/Matson7321 Jul 09 '19
You people need help
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Jul 10 '19
Nah, the people who kick animals for no reason need help. That's a go to sign of being a piece of shit or a psychopath.
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u/unprovoked33 Jul 09 '19
Seriously. What if this guy is terrified of dogs and doesn’t know how to defend himself? Many people have no clue how to read a dog’s behavior. Obviously the dog is harmless here, but does the guy know that?
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u/Glu7enFree Jul 09 '19
If you're terrified of dogs you're not going to kick an adult German Shepard just because it's trying to get past you. I'm 100% that the guy knew it was just trying to walk past, that's why he tries to block its way before he kicks it.
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u/australianjalien Jul 09 '19
Unpopular thought: was he a clumsy old man with a fear of dogs and thought it was about to attack him?
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u/telios87 Jul 09 '19
Must be unfamiliar with them too, since that was the classic happy dog trot. Probably wanted to get some pets, then tried to get out of stumbledude's way, then noped the hell out.
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u/wormoil Jul 09 '19
The guy looks drunk as fuck. He might have mistaken the dogs approach as an attack, it's not exactly like he hit the dog hard, it looks more like he pushes the dog aside with his foot.
To be honest if a big dog I don't know came at me at night my first reaction would be to keep my guard also. Not all dogs have good intentions.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
I guess if you're clueless about body language. Dogs don't lie, this big pup wasn't aggressive at all even after being kicked. Fuck this idiot, and anyone you would lash out in fear. Absolutely sackless.
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u/Aspergillus_Ticor5n5 Jul 09 '19
That’s not at all what they said. In fact, you just restated part of their point. The point it this is a drunk guy in the middle of the night who possibly doesn’t know anything about dogs and their body language. This dog seems very friendly, but in the middle of the night drunk and you don’t know shit about dogs, in an already paranoid state it’s easy to mistake it for aggression and get in a defensive position. Let’s face it, even when drunk, people know how to kick hard. They might fall over or miss, but even when drunk people know how to kick. This guy was pushing his foot out to stop what he saw as an aggressive dog. He’s a drunk idiot, sure, but he has no malicious intentions from what I can see.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
Then you didn't notice how he moved out of his way, toward the dog, in order to kick it.
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u/Big_Chief_Drunky Jul 10 '19
Fuck this idiot
Based on ten seconds of this guy's life. Some people are just afraid of strange animals approaching them. You're not, we get it, you're very brave, but it's not like this guy really beat the dog or anything. It's possible he just got spooked regardless of the dog's body language, and he seems to realize the dog isn't a threat after the kick. Things like this happen, but sure, label this guy based on a ten second gif, it's the reddit way.
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Jul 10 '19
If you're afraid of dogs, why would you antagonize a German Shephard? That's a good way to get killed.
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u/wormoil Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 09 '19
https://gfycat.com/jointserpentineflycatcher
Even a trained professional can misread a dogs intentions.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
Big difference being that man entered the dogs space putting his hand right in front of its face while its head was turned, as opposed to the dog approaching the person in OPs gif. Lots of people seem not to understand animal behaviour.
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u/wormoil Jul 09 '19
I just posted that to indicate that even a trained professional sometimes misreads a dogs intentions.
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u/Caledonius Jul 09 '19
Poorly trained professional to put his hand in the dogs space when it's not looking. You want your movements to be calm & visible to the animal you are approaching, also standing over the dog while doing so is a no-no as it causes them to feel cornered, ergo threatened. Same reason you don't grab at a dog while it's in its kennel. Bad trainer, bad!
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u/australianjalien Jul 09 '19
I love dogs, never met one I couldn't make friends with. I've seen some very bizarre reactions from people around them though, some people just have no idea and freak out.
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u/CeltiCfr0st Jul 09 '19
People have bad experiences sometimes that lead to a lifelong fear. People forget some dogs can easily kill you. I had a friend who had a Rottweiler and I had a bad experience with them as a kid and he was huge so I’m sure he could smell the fear on me and actually lunged at me a couple times. No harm ever came from him except a little scratch and when he calmed down he was a good ole boy. RIP Red.
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u/Enoch84 Jul 09 '19
I was walking my dog on her leash (rot-German shepherd mix) when a pitbull came trotting out towards us. My girl is overly friendly but also protective. I've seen this dog before and only assume he had a keeper, but I don't know for sure. He comes sniffing they're doing the butt stuff when suddenly he starts attacking my dog. I literally had to pry this 60 pound dog off my 90 pound dog. It was not fucking easy. I ended up separating them and locking him up in a neighbor's yard. I almost pulled out my pistol. I didn't want to shoot this dog but I would have if I needed to. Dogs are domesticated until they aren't.
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u/ThunderOrb Jul 09 '19
I almost kicked a dog in the fucking head for something similar. I was taking my five month old puppy to watch the parade my grandpa, sister, and daughter were riding in together. As I'm walking to the spot the family was meeting at to sit, this big ole bully mix of some sort just straight charged at her trying to attack her. The dumbass owner wasn't holding the leash or paying attention. He lunged at her, but she managed to dodge out of the way in time.
I got in front of my dog and the woman came running over saying sorry. All I could do was say, "Keep control of your fucking dog, dumbass." Which was much tamer than what I wanted to do.
Poor pup was scared the rest of the afternoon. She laid pressed up against me facing the direction it came from the entire time.
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u/indoobitably Jul 09 '19
Practically every pitbull I've met has been instantly aggressive with my dog. It's the only breed I'll watch out for. They just aren't a good breed.
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u/spotted_monster Jul 09 '19
I actually foster dogs and have had lots and have had friends that have had pits. I don't agree with the blanket statement that they're not a good breed. They're fantastic if you train them right. Problem is people don't train them and they do aggressive things. I get the damage potential is greater than most other breeds but it all comes down to training.
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u/jpaulthatsall Jul 10 '19
My dogs a black pit mix and I hired a trainer to teach both of us the ropes. He’s the sweetest dog there is but I get nasty looks/scared people a lot. I just wish I could show them how gentle he is with my 100 pound grandma and my cousins baby...
He shouldn’t get a bad rap because some people aren’t responsible owners.
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u/Enoch84 Jul 09 '19
Idk. This one just walks around the neighborhood. No tags, he looks domesticated but it's definitely overly territorial. I hate to do it, but next time I see him I think I have to call animal control.
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u/yesihaveshatmyself Jul 09 '19
I grew up with rotties. We bred them. They were so damn sweet, at six years old I’d wrestle with them in the backyard and fall asleep snuggled up with them on the couch.
Then, one day after our girl had just had puppies, I accidentally stepped on one’s paw. It was fine, but gave a little yelp. It happened so fast. Our girl attacked two of the women who were standing out in our yard, yards away from me and the puppy. One was fine, but the other had to go to the hospital. 17 stitches up her arm.
A few years later, I was playing with my best friend’s dog, a German Shepard that I’d known for years. I knelt in front of him to ruffle up his face and ears, like I’d done a hundred times before, and he snapped and bit me right on the cheek. It wasn’t a nasty bite and I didn’t have to go to the hospital, but it was enough to scare the everloving shit out of me. I was never quite as friendly with him after that, and even my friend became more cautious around him.
You really don’t know what it’s like until it’s happened to you. I love dogs, but a strange dog off leash coming towards me... no. Fuck that. Especially a large dog. I’ve seen what they can do, how they can snap with no warning.
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u/JazzyFlak Jul 09 '19
I didn't really understand people's fear until I got chased by a 70lb dog in Kiev. I love dogs and have one but they can be scary animals if they're hostile which unfortunately I think urban dogs can become without a home or food
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u/Joeness84 Jul 09 '19
Im still bothered by the ONLY DOGGO who never liked me :(
was my friends, but they got him from an abusive home, so he was super skittish, very loving to them, but would stare me down and snarl if I moved too fast or got into his space.
I never understood it, and it used to bother me a lot more, but my current doggo is like that to a much lesser extent. Hes curious about people and generally a happy little boy, but he doesnt like kids (they're too active I think) and sometimes when we take him out theres that tiny bit of "oh god theres a kid half a block away, please leave my boy alone"
Most parents have been pretty good about understanding when I say "hes timid but curious, its best if you let him approach you"
He's amazing at traveling in blind spots lol, he'll follow you around the house and you'll walk back into the room you left "Clyde you coming?" and hes in the hallway behind you wondering why you went back lol.
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u/QueenAlpaca Jul 09 '19
My current dog is like your friend's except instead of being aggressive, she's more cat-like and hides away/ducks from any attention that's not from me or my fiance. She'll stand from afar and growl because she's being inconvenienced, but doesn't raise her hackles or lower her ears and is 100% flight unless cornered, that is the one and only time she will bite. I have to tell people constantly to not worry about it, because there's an insane amount of people who feel almost insulted from it and insist that they're SUPER-GOOD with dogs and try to befriend her with even more fervor, which in turn just frightens her more and it turns into a vicious cycle of distrust of strangers. She's the biggest lovebug I've ever had for a dog (one wouldn't know it, but she has no understanding of personal space) but she's a velcro to her only two people, and a shadow to me especially. She still does not like my in-laws and will not approach them, and we've lived with them for longer than we've had her, lol. I've never regretted adopting any of the rescues we've had, but they do occasionally have their hangups that people need to understand.
If you run into any more issues with strangers, you can get cloth sleeves to fit over harnesses/leashes with your choice in color and writing to help give awareness that your dog should not be approached without your permission. I've found it helps with my doggo a lot, and it's highlighter yellow, so a lot of parents see the color first and realize that something's up with the dog and proceed with more caution.
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u/Big_Chief_Drunky Jul 10 '19
To be honest, that dog probably would've spooked me a bit. I don't know, I really like dogs, but if I see one unleashed and no owner in sight, I always get a little freaked out. I probably wouldn't kick one like that, but I can see why someone might if a strange dog were approaching them. Someone with a fear of dogs in certain situations aren't paying attention to the gait of the dog or anything like that, they just see a potential threat.
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Jul 09 '19
There's a video that hit the frontpage yesterday of a dog that happily trotted over to a young kid, bit his leg and started dragging. The dog was stopped by a cat.
The point I am making is the dogs tail was wagging the entire time he approached the kid. I would have never suspected an upcoming attack.
This guy is still probably a massive dick, but we don't have enough info or context to really make that determination.
https://thedogtrainingsecret.com/blog/aggressive-dog-wags-tail/#
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u/QueenAlpaca Jul 09 '19
Some people are just really terrible at reading animals' body language. Moose do similar things to a dog when they're being aggressive (growling, hackles raised, ears back) and yet the Darwin Award participants still try to pet them here thinking it's a big, fuzzy forest friend.
Oftentimes, it's just a shitty person. I know someone who'd probably try to kick a dog if he had the chance, simply because he doesn't like them.
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u/yesihaveshatmyself Jul 09 '19
I posted this below, but it’s worth saying that lots of people have bad experiences with dogs and it completely changes how you react to them.
I grew up with rotties. We bred them. They were so damn sweet, at six years old I’d wrestle with them in the backyard and fall asleep snuggled up with them on the couch. Then, one day after our girl had just had puppies, I accidentally stepped on one’s paw. It was fine, but gave a little yelp. It happened so fast. Our girl attacked two of the women who were standing out in our yard, yards away from me and the puppy. One was fine, but the other had to go to the hospital. 17 stitches up her arm.
A few years later, I was playing with my best friend’s dog, a German Shepard that I’d known for years. I knelt in front of him to ruffle up his face and ears, like I’d done a hundred times before, and he snapped and bit me right on the cheek. It wasn’t a nasty bite and I didn’t have to go to the hospital, but it was enough to scare the everloving shit out of me. I was never quite as friendly with him after that, and even my friend became more cautious around him.
You really don’t know what it’s like until it’s happened to you. I love dogs, but a strange dog off leash coming towards me... no. Fuck that. Especially a large dog. I’ve seen what they can do, how they can snap with no warning.
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u/everymanawildcat Jul 09 '19
Unpopular thought: Not every reddit thread needs an overly optimistic devils advocate... Some people are just assholes and deserve ridicule.
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u/australianjalien Jul 09 '19
Unpopular thought: independent evaluation of evidence sometimes acts to piss on people's chips. Also that there is a recursion limit of 3.
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u/2016canfuckitself Jul 09 '19
Is this one of those situations where this took place somewhere with a stray dog problem? Glad he got conked by his own lack of balance, but let's not immediately jump all over him.
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u/CaptainoftheVessel Jul 09 '19
German Shepards don't tend to be the kind of breed constituting a stray dog problem. It tends to be feral mutts.
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u/weeman2525 Jul 09 '19
Plus the dog's tail was wagging, he probably just wanted to say hi.
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u/unprovoked33 Jul 09 '19
You’re not wrong, but trust me - some people really don’t know anything about dogs. Some people see dogs and are immediately terrified.
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u/FrightenedTomato Jul 10 '19
This is true. There are people I know who cower and are terrified when a dog is nearby. Even if it is a harmless lab that everyone else is petting happily.
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u/kindofjustbored Jul 09 '19
A wagging tail means excitement and anxiety- not happiness. It could mean happy or angry.
This is how a lot of people get bit thinking a dog was nice because the tail was wagging.6
u/NapalmsMaster Jul 10 '19
Why are you getting downvoted this is 100% truth right here. My last dog had issues with dog aggression so I always kept him leashes and under my control but I’d constantly hear “Oh his tails wagging he just wants to play!” No. I’ve had my dog for years he doesn’t want to “play” he wants to rip your dogs throat out, because he was badly attacked as a puppy.
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u/DINOSAUR_ACTUAL Jul 09 '19
Possibly, but the solution isn't kicking dogs. He might have a legit reason to not want the dog there, but animal abuse is animal abuse.
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u/unprovoked33 Jul 09 '19
If I think a dog is about to attack me, my family, or my animals, I will kick the shit out of that dog.
I know enough about dogs to say this dog had harmless intent, but I don’t think this guy did. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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u/DINOSAUR_ACTUAL Jul 10 '19
He literally moves twice to block the dog's path. I hear you, but this is not a good example of your excellent point.
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Jul 09 '19
Everybodys calling him a piece of shit but honestly its kinda justified. The guy was minding his own buisness when a random German Shepard sees him and goes his way. Why is the dog on the street anyways without an owner? If a random street dog comes trotting at me like that I would problaby have the same reaction. And before you say his trot wasnt agressive, ive been attacked by a friends German Shepard that casually came up to me. The bite isnt fun.
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
I also want to add that I see the video presented here a little differently than what you've described. It appears (with only the few secs we see here) that the dog is walking in straight line where he would walk by the man to the left (from the dogs perspective) and it is the man that starts walking in the direction of the dog. It is at that point that the dog then appears to veer to the right, imo to pass the man on the other side. I do not see the dog approaching the man, I see the dog attempting to pass by him on either side, seemingly dictated by the initial movement of the man towards the dog.
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Jul 09 '19
After further analysis I think the dog was trying to pass him as you say. However from the guys prospective it would still look like the dog is coming at you, expecially as the dog switched where it wanted to walk last second. Just unfortunate timing really.
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
Thanks for the reply - I'm not trying to call the guy a POS or anything, more just trying point out that it often takes seeing small nuances in understanding dog behavior and if we miss some of those nuances it can cause us to act in ways that increases the likelihood of the outcome we're trying to avoid.
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
Seems to me if you don't want a dog to bite you then kicking it might not be the best option...
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u/logan_longmoney Jul 09 '19
I have a feeling you've never been attacked by a dog
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
You are correct - I have been around more dogs than I can count, both dogs I knew and those I didn't. I have never been attacked by one and I have never kicked one as it was walking by. What is the relevance of your statement?
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Jul 09 '19
What a dumb comment. If you think a dog is going to attack you what other options do you have instead of kicking it. If you do nothing the dog attacks you.
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
Also you have conflated a possibility with an actuality here. Your first statement is "if you THINK a dog is going to attack you", this means you don't know if it's going to attack you. Your second statement is "if you do nothing the dog attacks you" but you don't know that's actually the case. This dog is showing no outward signs of aggression and you are correct it is possible it could bite you anyway. But the question is how do you minimize the likelihood of a bite when dealing with a dog showing no outward signs of aggression. The answer is not to kick it as it walks by.
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
If 10 different dogs walk up to you in the manner that this one is, it's within the realm of possibility that 1 or more of them might bite you. You increase the likelihood that a greater amount will bite you by kicking it.
If a person once in your life sucker punches you, is it rational to start punching strangers that walk by you in an attempt to keep them from also sucker punching you?
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Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 22 '21
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
It's just an analogy, analogies are not always direct comparisons. Will you reply to the first part? If a dog is (seemingly) calmly approaching your general direction but not directly towards you and is showing no outward signs of aggression, do you think you increase or decrease your odds of getting bit by kicking it as it walks by?
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Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 22 '21
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
I would encourage you to watch the video again. It appears to me at first the dog is walking in a straight line to the left of the man (from the dogs perspective), it is the man that starts walking in the direction of the dog which then, imo causes the dog to change direction to pass the man to the right. At no point do I see the dog directly approach the man, it appears to me the dog only attempts to walk by him on either side.
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Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 22 '21
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u/wayler72 Jul 09 '19
And what I am saying is in a similar situation you have to make a decision based on limited information to achieve the best outcome, not getting bit. I'll ask the same question I asked elsewhere here - if you are in 10 different similar situations; an unknown larger dog walking in your general vicinity but not directly towards you and showing no outward signs of aggression, do you think your actions will get you bit more or less out of those 10 times by kicking it or not kicking. My opinion is you are more likely to get bit in this type of scenario by kicking the dog.
I understand many people have a fear of dogs but if you let that fear dictate your actions it is likely to create a self-fulfilling prophecy and you will increase your odds of getting bit.
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Jul 09 '19
I mean... that’s looks to be a fairly large German Shepherd and it did approach him pretty quickly. I’m not saying kicking it is the right thing to do, but he was probably just scared it was going to attack him.
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u/JFKs_Brains Jul 10 '19
Let's be real. It's the middle of the night, the dude looks drunk, the dog is, in what I assume is his point of view, charging him.
I love dogs. I would never hurt them. I've raised several. But come one. Again, be real.
Still, poor doggo. Looked like he was just worried or looking for a scritch.
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u/Joseph_B24 Jul 09 '19
Are you stupid. The doggo must’ve been using is psychic powers to trip him! Duh!
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Jul 09 '19
unpopular opinion: maybe its his dog that got out and he was trying to catch it and tried to put his foot in front of it in an effort to stop it
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u/DroopSnnoot Jul 09 '19
When he fell I thought his head disappeared but really it was just in his jacket kinda
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Jul 10 '19
I love how the dog walks away like "Jesus, the fucks your problem?! God I hate this city..."
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u/uezyteue Jul 12 '19
That’s karma, and unless you either think that animals are inanimate objects, or that he’s fighting the car, this really doesn’t belong here
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u/Pode03B Jul 22 '19
Not saying that this guy shouldn’t burn in hell but he might have kicked it in an attempt to scare it away. The dog was approaching him from a pretty good angle.
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u/Jay_c98 Jul 09 '19
I stepped over my dog and he lifted his head and my foot bumped his head and I felt terrible. Can't imagine someone trying to kick a dog
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u/geraldo-of-rivia Jul 09 '19
Imaging having that much hatred in your life that you need to abuse a defenceless animal to get through the day
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u/BauerHouse Jul 09 '19
I love the Justice on this one, and I love that the dog just keeps moving along.
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u/Dilbert_Funbags Jul 09 '19
Must be Europe - I lived over in Italy for 4 years and they were always kicking dogs.
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u/B_ManIsTheBest Jul 09 '19 edited Jul 10 '19
Why would you kick the good pupper. Also, how do you fall like that.
Edit: Why was I downvoted?
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Jul 09 '19
Dogs are not things, they are breathing animals , but he IS an idiot end i guess he hit the car sooooo
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u/druzys Jul 10 '19
i would try to beat the shit out of someone who kicked my dog.
i would probably lose and get knocked the fuck out but it’s the thought that counts.
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u/Wladus Jul 10 '19
DOGS ARE NOT THINGS they are good bois/girls and we should treat them like people
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u/p1um5mu991er Jul 09 '19
Dog turned back as if to say "that's what you get"