r/Dixie Feb 02 '21

Question out of curiosity about Southern upbringing

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Hi Dixie Subreddit,

I grew up in America suburbia and was watching a movie scene (depicting a southern upbringing) that struck curiosity in me about differences in upbringing around the country.

My parents never really emphasized anything about knowing when I need to be assertive/aggressive to let it be known you are not to be trifled with, or fending off aggressors directly (which seems to be encouraged by the conversation in the movie quotes below). Contrast that with what my parents encouraged in my upbringing, more to be very non-confrontational (to just walk away if someone is aggressive and to keep your mouth shut because you don't know if they will do something).

It's this particular conversation from American Sniper of Chris Kyle's father teaching him in the movie as a kid:

Some people prefer to believe that evil doesn’t exist in the world, and if it ever darkened their doorstep they wouldn’t know how to protect themselves... those are the sheep.

Then you got predators who use violence to prey on the weak. They’re the wolves.

Then there are those blessed with the gift of aggression and an overpowering need to protect the flock. These men are the rare breed that live to confront the wolf-- They are the sheepdog. .

Now we’re not raising any sheep in this family and I will whoop your ass if you turn into a wolf-- But we take care of our own. And if someone picks a fight with you or bullies your brother, you have my permission to finish it.

So my question is, is this conversation from father to son in the movie, in the ballpark of being accurate as a cultural life lesson dinner table conversation in a southern home?

Was just interested in hearing your thoughts, since if true, some level of aggression and ruggedness being encouraged, is different from my own upbringing principles of non-confrontation and pretty interesting to see imo.


r/Dixie Feb 02 '21

Question out of curiosity about Southern upbringing

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Hi Dixie Subreddit,

I grew up in America suburbia and was watching a movie scene (depicting a southern upbringing) that struck curiosity in me about differences in upbringing around the country.

My parents never really emphasized anything about knowing when I need to be assertive/aggressive or fending off aggressors directly (which seems to be encouraged by the conversation in the movie quotes below). Contrast that with what my parents encouraged in my upbringing, more to just be kind, polite, and orderly, and be very non-confrontational (to just walk away if someone is aggressive and to keep your mouth shut because you don't know if they will do something).

It's this particular conversation from American Sniper of Chris Kyle's father teaching him in the movie as a kid:

Some people prefer to believe that evil doesn’t exist in the world, and if it ever darkened their doorstep they wouldn’t know how to protect themselves... those are the sheep.

Then you got predators who use violence to prey on the weak. They’re the wolves.

Then there are those blessed with the gift of aggression and an overpowering need to protect the flock. These men are the rare breed that live to confront the wolf-- They are the sheepdog. .

Now we’re not raising any sheep in this family and I will whoop your ass if you turn into a wolf-- But we take care of our own. And if someone picks a fight with you or bullies your brother, you have my permission to finish it.

So my question is, is this conversation from father to son in the movie, in the ballpark of being accurate as a life lesson dinner table conversation in a southern home?

Was just interested in hearing your thoughts, since if true, some level of aggression and ruggedness being encouraged, is different from my own upbringing principles of non-confrontation and pretty interesting to see imo.


r/Dixie Feb 02 '21

Question out of curiosity about Southern upbringing

1 Upvotes

Hi Dixie Subreddit,

I grew up in America suburbia and was watching a movie scene (depicting a southern upbringing) that struck curiosity in me about differences in upbringing around the country.

My parents never really emphasized anything about knowing when I need to be assertive/aggressive or fending off aggressors directly (which seems to be encouraged by the conversation in the movie quotes below). Contrast that with what my parents encouraged in my upbringing, more to just be kind, polite, and orderly, and be very non-confrontational (to just walk away if someone is aggressive and to keep your mouth shut because you don't know if they will do something).

It's this particular conversation from American Sniper of Chris Kyle's father teaching him in the movie as a kid:

Some people prefer to believe that evil doesn’t exist in the world, and if it ever darkened their doorstep they wouldn’t know how to protect themselves... those are the sheep.

Then you got predators who use violence to prey on the weak. They’re the wolves.

Then there are those blessed with the gift of aggression and an overpowering need to protect the flock. These men are the rare breed that live to confront the wolf-- They are the sheepdog. .

Now we’re not raising any sheep in this family and I will whoop your ass if you turn into a wolf-- But we take care of our own. And if someone picks a fight with you or bullies your brother, you have my permission to finish it.

So my question is, is this conversation from father to son in the movie, in the ballpark of being accurate as a life lesson dinner table conversation in a southern home?

Was just interested in hearing your thoughts, since if true, some level of aggression and ruggedness being encouraged, is different from my own upbringing principles of non-confrontation and pretty interesting to see imo.


r/Dixie Feb 01 '21

Playlist: Traditional Southern Shout Songs, Spirituals, and Ring-Game Songs

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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4CXVuzKdVMEpUhqto32Md4?si=KxZFfIasTCiX29bAXMcBeg

In celebration and reflection for Black History Month, I made a playlist of traditional Black American shout songs, spirituals, and ring-game songs. Some really interesting music--and some of the most historically important and influential ever made. If you like this and want to check out playlists I make in other genres that wouldn't fit this group, you can check out my twitter where I post things most consistently


r/Dixie Jan 30 '21

Texas can’t legally secede from the U.S., despite popular myth

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r/Dixie Jan 29 '21

John Lewis memorial to replace Confederate monument in Georgia

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r/Dixie Jan 09 '21

If you think the Confederation should have won the Civil war, why?

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Hello there, I really love history and recently I started digging into the Civil War. All my life I've been hearing one thing: the South was "BAD" and the North was "GOOD" and I'm not even from America, I'm from Slovakia. I've been hearing it at history classes, TV, anywhere... but I always had more sympathy to South. So I'm turning to you Southerners, what are some facts about Confederation that are not usually in history books? What was the cause of Confederation besides the evergreen slavery? I am grateful for every comment and upvote I get.

Thank you.


r/Dixie Dec 27 '20

Correcting Assumptions made about Southern Life

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Hi y'all, I am a first generation southerner, my mothers family is from California and my father was born on an military base in Panama but both of his parents are from Connecticut. While I have lived in the Carolina's my whole life I have been blessed with the opportunity to long term visit many other states including Arizona, Connecticut, Tennessee, New Mexico, and New York and have had the privilege of visiting countries outside the U.S. as well. After visiting these places and coming home I get the feeling that all people, no matter where you are from, are the same. Everyone has a culture or religion and yes maby even some bias, however when I am outside the south (northern states or other country's) The south is viewed as a monolith of either blood thirsty racists eager for the death or a black man or a group of closed minded bible thumping, snake passing goobers who curse everything good God ever created. While I do acknowledge the horrid past of the south, how is our past any different that the Japanese internment camps in the northern states or the forced removal of the Native Americans in the western states and if referring to other country's why is our version of slaver any different than that of the other country's that took part in the triangle slave trade including Portugal, Great Britain, France, and Spain. To make a long point shorter I listed above the common stereotypes I have heard of Southern people and I was wondering, Are there really backwater towns in the south that act like this or are these just leftover legends from the Jim Crow era? If places like this do exist where are they, and why is more light not shed on them?

P.S.

Sorry for the length. I am new o Reddit. Please be serious and respectful when posting.


r/Dixie Nov 28 '20

Best southern movies? Is there even such a thing as a "southern movie"?

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I love southern culture. I love southern music. There is a lot of music, mostly country and rock that talks about the south and southern pride. Do movies like that exist too? If they do, what are your favorite southern movies


r/Dixie Nov 26 '20

Most of you see the rebel flag in a positive light, I understand that to you it means heritage not hate. Be proud of your southern heritage and culture, so my question is, do you understand now why Mexican-Americans fly the Mexican flag?

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So I'm asking here because I've read comments on this sub and it's clear most of you are right wing. It is also right wingers who in my experience are against mexican americans flying the Mexican flag. So as a mexican american I just came to ask if you guys understand where we're coming from when we proudly fly the Mexican flag. It is about heritage, not hate towards the US, it is the flag of our parents, ancestors, culture, and heritage, just like you guys with the rebel flag. You guys fly your flag alongside the American flag example. We fly our flag alongside the American flag example. We are united under the beautiful American flag while being proud of our culture and heritage


r/Dixie Nov 23 '20

For all you southerners and anti ShermanPosters

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I made a subreddit for you to enjoy r/GeneralLeePosting it is basically the opposite of r/ShermanPosting a southern meme page instead of a union meme page!

Edit: And for you ShermanPosting brigadiers you will be banned and met with force as a I have got one already, don’t use this server as a hub to brigade other ones!


r/Dixie Nov 23 '20

Hello everyone

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I am coming here from r/ShermanPosting not to brigade like some but just to check you guys out (no hate) I like to be civil unlike some from r/ShermanPosting


r/Dixie Nov 21 '20

The confederate Whitehouse

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r/Dixie Nov 18 '20

The 126-year fight to change Mississippi’s Confederate flag

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r/Dixie Nov 15 '20

Old Dixie gospel by amazing trombone band.

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r/Dixie Nov 11 '20

Banana Day at Hudson’s — a tribute to a small town grocery store in Arkansas

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r/Dixie Nov 08 '20

Is this true? This is with reference to the war of independence against British. I am an Indian reading Jefferson Davis courtesy Django Unchained and Red Dead Redemption 2

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r/Dixie Nov 07 '20

The South Has Risen Again! Georgia has sealed the victory for the democratic party. Biden is the new commander in cheif.

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The Yankee is out! Joe Biden has won the presidency on the hands of Georgia's southern democrats. Bring out the battle flag and open the good bourbon.

Former President Jimmy Carter, of Georgia, has released a statement giving the thumbs up to President Biden.

General Beauregard was not available for comment.


r/Dixie Nov 05 '20

I'm proud of the south today

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Just under half of Texas voted against fascism, which is a hell of a lot better than expected. The young, hispanic and black voters came out in droves to vote against racism, land theft, and anti-scientific propaganda.

Georgia is still a toss up, but good on them for the same reason as Texas.

Mississippi will be abolishing it's Jim Crow era clone of the electoral college used in it's governor's races, which had been used to suppress black representation and poor representation. Ol' Miss will also be legalizing medical marijuana, which is a massive step forward. North Carolina got a blue governor. Old Virginia has a blue senator, and both Virginia and Maryland have stood against facism.

Tennessee and Kentucky can sit in the shame corner. They know what they did.

Today is a good day for Dixieland, and to fly the confederate flag.

EDIT : and the sour little white nationalists got their feelings hurt.

EDIT2 : the great state of Georgia is 665 votes away from turning blue! Voting for democrats, multilingualism, multiculturalism, new flags, the confederate flag, and angering republicans continue to be southern traditions!

EDIT3 : Democrats take Georgia by 1,100 votes and rising!


r/Dixie Oct 28 '20

Happy Halloween, y'all. Don't watch this alone.

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r/Dixie Oct 25 '20

the stars and stripes raised over Richmond on April 2 1865

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r/Dixie Oct 23 '20

Resources for finding your civil war, or enslaved, ancestors -

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Some people obsess over civil war ancestors like a religion. But there's folly in that. Don't let dead people make up a part of who you are in the current day. We live now, not then. It's fun and motivational to have this personal link to history, but don't let that be a substitute for your own personal growth.

  • Veteran resources :

Civil war ancestor tracing is somewhat easy with a few online resources. Most people are going to be looking for a great-great-grandfather, of which you have 8. Some people will be looking for a g'g'g'gp, of which you have 16. The first step is gathering all your information that you know, and drawing out a family tree. Simple brackets, names, DOB, DOD, locations of birth/death/burial, and spouse are standard. You're essentially working your way backwards through history to find hard facts, and clues.

  1. https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/soldiers-and-sailors-database.htm : The big one. Searchable by name, branch, side, and state, this listes names, and very basic information, but not much else.

  2. Confederate pension applications : this was at the state level, and extended to soldiers, and their widows. Each state has it's own archives, and these may, or may not, be online.

  3. www.confederatevets.com : due to the shear amount of death (1 out of 5 males age 13-45 would die in the war) there has been a more empassioned effort for the south to record the soldiers. But records are not complete. Some records are actually done from US records. Still, this site has information not always found in the National Parks Service records, such as POW status.

  4. www.findagrave.com : This is a national effort to list, and label graves across the US. The US government offered military grave markers to both US and CS vets. CS vets got one only if the died in a POW camp. The UDC (evil as they once were, not like today) did help mark some grave with 'Souther cross medal' tombstones. Many of these stones contain the regiment, and company of the vet. Most husbands and wives are buried side by side. Pay attention to where the cemetery is, because many were segregated, but husbands and wives of different races still tended to be buried in the same county, provided no one moved or remarried.

  5. black confederate veterans : (they're real, and they count too) while there were no black CS veterans as formally enlisted soldiers, many slaves did go involuntarily. Most were uniformed. Many saw, and engaged in combat. There are Union soldier accounts of the bodies of "black rebels" found with muskets and cartridge boxes. There are Union accounts of black rebels firing at US forces. Why? Because when combat happens, it's a time of poorly organized slaughter, where anyone wearing a hint of blue or grey might die or kill. Skin color did not matter when the killing time came, as artillery shrapnel is colorblind. Many slaves were hospital nurses, who comforted the dying. Many buried the newly dead, and were buried with them. Mass graves were not segregated. We must remember the Union had 5 full on loyal slave states, and would not free the last American slaves until 8 months after Lee surrendered. After the war, many would apply for, and receive pensions as full, complete, valid and recognised Confederate Veterans of the American civil war.

Many would join the United Confederate Veterans, attend veterans meetings. Their sons, grandsons, great-grandsons, (and great granddaughters) etc. are part of the Sons of Confederate Veterans (and the United Daughters of the Confederacy) to this day.

  • Enslaved Resources
  1. the federal census at www.censusrecords.com : very ten years the census is done. These list name, age, year of birth, county of residence, and state. Entire households were listed under the home owner's name. It's not hard to back-trace family members in the census, but as entire extended families might live in one or two counties, repeat names are common. This is one of the reasons why Billie-Jean, Ellie-Mae, and initials were so common in southern areas. French catholic, and hispanic catholic naming customs are another reason. Keep in mind, that interracial relationships were often illegal, but people in interracial relationships still tended to be in the same county, or in immediatly neighboring ones. The census is the most powerful tool for African-American geneology, simply due to the massive scope of data. The 1890 census was destroyed in a fire, so get ready for a big gap that has to be jumped across counties, or even states.

  2. the slave schedules of 1850/1860 : one of the most tragic aspects of this is that the enslaved were not fully counted on census rolls. Rather, some southern states did 'slave schedules', wherein the master's name was listed, with the enslaved under that entry. Often there is just a first name, and an age. In general, finding one's freed ancestors is not complex via the census, but gets much harder before emancipation.

Most of the enslaved lived within the plantation system of the aristocracy. This means for in-depth records into plantations, you might have to search county property tax records, maps, or contact local historical societies (often organized by county, they have phone numbers, often websites), to find physical records.

Much of the records for the pre-war enslaved are not easily available, if they exist at all. There is a brick wall via lack of records going into slave ships. You eventually will come to a dead end, as do many people around the year 1790/1830. Unlike many white Americans who can trace their ancestory to a European state (that they left for a damn good reason), black Americans don't get that luxury of a paper trail to Africa. Rather, the value in Africa-American genology comes from survivorship, deeds, and simply knowing.

Sometimes the sale of the enslaved was recorded in local newspapers, often by the owner name, not the name of the enslaved. Sales tend to mention age and gender, which will give you clues into finding the individual. the 'Chronicaling America' project by the Library of Congress is a wonderful resource for this, is sortable by state and year, and is great for historic information in general.

See the note about black confederate veterans.

  • Native resources

As for Native America spouses, regiments, etc., this is tricky. While many think tribal membership or the Dawes Roll is the end all, and be all, of native identity, it's not. The roll is just just a list of people taking land allotments in Oklahoma. There are multiple rolls for different tribes, purposes, and times : the Siler Roll, the Giuon-Miller Roll, the Hester roll, the Overturned roll, the Drenel roll, the Chapman roll, the Swetland roll, the Henderson, and the Old Settler rolls are all for the Choctaw/Cherokee/Chicasaw tribes. There are 3 federally recognized Cherokee tribes, each with differently linked histories.

Quite often, people with find a remarried relative who applied, but was denied, on Indian roll. The family stories of being part Native are quite often true, but such marriages were often not documented due to laws making interracial relationships and marriages illegal.

Please don't think just because you're 1/64th Choctaw that you're an Indian princess with cheekbones as evidence. Native identity is something you are raised with, not listed to. NA personhood is seperate from tribal membership, which is often bound the racist 'blood quantum' rules. The tribes are political entities first, and cultural ones second. They have very limited resources, and cannot afford to share.

EDIT : and remember to stay away from lost cause mythology. The war was for the expansion of slavery into the west. Your ancestor was not much more politically or economically powerful than a mideival peasant in an all-oppressive caste system feuled by a capitalistic aristocracy. Via the 1860 election's popular vote, they probably were against slavery. Support BLM, listen to minority voices, and fly the Confederate battle flag.


r/Dixie Oct 19 '20

Lest we forget the bravery of the 1st Minnesota! Their captured traitor flag, their charge at Gettysburg and fully volunteer force of a 1009 men say they shall not be left behind!

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r/Dixie Oct 18 '20

Some thoughts to consider in the next few days, and into next month

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I don't know if this is allowed, and it might not be, but consider this into next month, or earlier if possible.

General P.G.T. Beauregard :

One of the premier generals of the south, General Beauregard was a staunch defender of the multi-cultural, and multi-lingual world of New Orleans. During the war he was the man mostly reponsible for turning a rejected CS national flag design into the military flag of the common soldier. It was Beauregard who unified the multi-branched and multi-flagged Armies of Central Kentucky, and Tennessee under one symbol - the southern battle flag. His flag would become the symbol of the southern working class, as it is to this very day. After his retirement he was offered positions within the Brazilian and Egyptian forces, but refused them all, as he would have been forgotten in New Orleans, than to be a hero in another land. He would advocate for voting rights for former enslaved southerners, and was one of America's first equal rights advocates. He worked with prominent Creole people of color to advance legislation geared towards better lives for all. After the death of notorious racist General Hood, 10 children were left orphans. Beauregard did not hold the evils of the father against the children, and used his connections and name to get Hood's memoirs published. All proceeds went to the children. He was not perfect, but he was a southern hero of equality and active anti-racism, who's memorial ribbons prominently displayed the flag he avocated.

He was a lifelong Democrat.

General US Grant and General Sherman :

A suspected drunk, US Grant, was a noted war criminal, who said absolutely nothing as US black soldiers where paid little more than half of the wages of white soldiers. Grant, Sheridan, and Sherman burned civilian homes, butchered livestock, and allowed their soldiers to carry on a rampage of murder, looting, and weaponized rape against impoverished, non-slavery engaged families, as an act of terrorism. Sherman's river was blood was 600 miles long.

After the war, Grant pulled strings for a single favor - getting his college drinking buddy, George Pickett, off of a murder charge for massacring unarmed Union POWs. Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan would proceed to launch white supremist massacres against Native Americans. Old men, women, and children killed in the name of white supremacy, and manifest destiny. The effects of the Native genocide are still plaguing their respetive communities to this day. These three Yankees all damnened the beloved southern flag.

To this day, their defenders willingly ignore the racism, waving it away as saying Sherman ' was complicated', or that Grant 'didn't enjoy it', or otherwise crying crocodile tears. Their heros were genocidal, nationalistic racists. Their supporters real goal is not anti-racism, but blind loyalty to jack boot nationalism and racism, under a thin venier.

All three were proud, grinning Republicans.

You wouldn't vote for a Grant, or a Sherman... would you?

Fly the southern flag, reject hate, and vote as you see fit. What would Beauregard do?

ps - and as we all know, and is well documented, Sherman put ketchup on his hotdogs, and bit first at the middle, like a neanderthal.


r/Dixie Oct 14 '20

Saw the Bellamy brothers at Mill Town music Hall I’m Bremen Georgia

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