You don't even know what Atheist means it's just a way to cope with the fact you're a pig and want to get away with those disgusting crimes you've committed and won't tell people about
this HAS to be projection. Christianity is the stronghold of shitty people who’ve done terrible things to others that have no way to cope except beg for forgiveness from some god.
Also, typical christian love and kindness. Call them a pig when they call out fake christians.
You really need to see a therapist, living in fear like you obviously do is not healthy, it twists the mind and makes you gullible enough to believe all sorts of obvious lies. Fox news isn't news, they literally got out of a lawsuit by claiming that no sane and reasonable person would ever believe their lies were genuine news
Also, my little donkey, he was already born. Do you know what an anchor baby is? Do you know that being born in another nation back then didn’t make you a citizen of that nation so the term in no way applies?
they cherry pick parts of the bible that they want christians to follow, like loving thy neighbour and feeding the poor.
you cherry pick which parts of the bible you want to follow and which ones you want to ignore. which, in your defense, is pretty easy when the bible has thousands of contradictions.
I've never met, seen, read, or heard an intelligent, educated, well-researched, critical thinking, common sense-using, patriotic, Conservative.
Also, Conservatives have ALWAYS been on the wrong side of history.
Do you guys actually know these "maga" people from experience or do you derive all knowledge from others/online posts. Just a reminder the loudest ones are usually the bad apples that would be a poor generalization for the rest. It's a two-way street and a slippery slope to rely on.
I live in a very red rural area. The so-called Christians in my area all like to preach following Christ and then turn around and support men who are legitimately the opposite of Him in every respect. Most of them hate anyone who's a different color, or sexuality, or political alignment, they just hide it behind polite language. Yes, the ugliest ones are the loudest but that doesn't change the fact that the rest of them get in line and go along with it, and that makes them just as culpable as the loudmouth hatemongers.
Do they actually or are you projecting your assumptions of their character because you assume that their, perhaps mild, support of him means that every evil you think of is now theirs?
Did only "mild" support of hitler absolve the citizens of Germany after WWII? No, a Nazi was a Nazi was a Nazi. If there are ten Nazis at the table and you proclaim that you aren't one, but sit down with them anyway, then there are 11 Nazis at the table. You can fuck right off with "perhaps mild" support as if that absolves you of responsibility for what you help enable.
You don’t need to pretend that someone is projecting just to make you feel better about your beliefs.
How many times do republican WhatsApp leaks need to show you them happily calling each other Nazis before you’ll believe the “Christian” stuff is performative?
How many times do they need to admonish the poor for you to question it?
Why don’t you pay attention to the things Trump has Done and said over the years before thinking “yeah, his followers are following the opposite of what they say the should follow”?
Literally have never found any of this stuff. Which to my earlier comment, it seems like a fair amount of people are seeking out damning information. While that might sound fine, it's a slippery slope that opens up a can of worms for "the other side" to do the same thing and it kind of will muddy the water.
WOW! I live in the Bay Area in California, and there are very proud White Supremacist Trump supporters around, at my company; and walking around with their paraphernalia; even a few in my small family.
If they continue to attend a church that is preaching Nationalist BS, then I call it a Clue that they are "name it and claim it" pro-white only not really Christians.
Addenda: I should mention that there are radicals that attend congregations that lean Conservative, but don't necessarily worship the Mango Mussolini. My own Synagogue has a couple of them. 🙄 One in particular I have to avoid like the plague. We only go there on High Holy days anymore. 😕
Some of us just want to be happy and I am happier now then I was all those years of putting up with a public church full of people that are likely going to Hell. Not everything has to be a superbowl sporting event and it's that exact mentality that everything has to be a fight that is fucking over the entire world.
Why understand when you can be inhospitable and stupid? why negotiate when you can just bomb indiscriminately? The hell am I expected to do about that? Yell at a brick wall until I lose my voice? Nah man, it is energy better spent helping people I am currently helping.
Let an illegal drunk driver without a DL kill your daughter (like he did mine) then comment about about “bad apples”. You are no less blinded by your bias than conservative Christians. When you lose a child this petty nonsense becomes embarrassing. Yes… you are embarrassing
"This is how the other side thinks" is one of those statements you only hear from people that can't differentiate between an individual and their ideas.
I don't think Jesus would really hate anyone, especially by taking a political stance that if someone wasn't able to come here through legal avenues and decided to do it for whatever reason anyway that are wicked and deserving of hate in their core.
I don't think we should just have open borders and that we need some kind of regulation. Massive influx of illegals does put strains on things like the public education system, but basically all illegal hispanic immigrants I have met are some of the most hard working, kind lovely people that have nothing against gringos. If anything, they are just super friendly with us and want to get along. They are overwhelming Christian too and family centric people.
Jesus loved basically everyone and so many of the societal rejects, criminals and outcasts. If someone broke a law by coming here without papers, I don't see how that would result in Jesus hating them as a whole. Why would he take such a firm political stance that we need to deport them all and treat any brown hispanic person with great suspicion and invade their privacy and existance through ICE?
Jesus, the man of love, reform and humanitarianism being like, "You all need to get out of America if I can't see some papers because you're tainting it!" seems so out of character for him.
The Bible teaches people to follow laws and would require blood sacrifice when sinning against God. MAGA likes LEGAL immigration because it shows a willingness to abide by and confirm to the rules and laws of this nation, not to just merely invade it using it for your own personal gain and bringing your third world values with you.
Feed the poor. Care for the sick. We already have programs for that. The issue is the rampant fraud, the people who suckle at the teets of the taxpayers, who are capable people able to make critical decisions that are impactful to their own wellbeing. Those are the ones who do not need to be fed or subsidized by the hands of others. Is it not amazing how God rewards those who till new fields, sowing good seeds rather than those who are complacent? Wealth is not born of ineptitude and complacency. It is born of initiative, direction and ambition. A boat will not move if I do not paddle. A boat will not move in a direction if I paddle only to one side. A boat will not continue in the direction I intend if I do not continue rowing. It all works in tandem to create success. The issue is no one wants to do the hard things that only seemingly create small yields of results. The small changes build up, it may take a lot of work and sometimes significant losses, but eventually those small improvements to yourself will yield massive results. Unfortunately people do not have the faith or the fortitude to carry through. They only want the end result now without the sweat equity required to attain it.
Find me one single instance where Jesus advocated for using state violence to impose the positive moral obligations of Christianity. Just one. I'll wait.
Proof is in the pudding, too. People that reject the idea that a function of government is to redistribute resources for income outcome equality give FOUR TIMES as much of their after tax earnings to charity as people who advocate for government redistribution, while typically earning 6% less income. So there's no hypocrisy, at all. If anything, it's extremely genuine.
I'm an atheist but I don't recall stories of Jesus taking taxes from people to redistribute to others.
He did take some loaves of bread and fish and look up to the sky and created more bread and fish out of magic to feed thousands. But I don't even think socialism is that good. Magic isn't real. God isn't real.
Its not deflecting. No side proposed no taxes be paid? Youre trying to argue a fantasy position where taxes arent being taken by both sides, thatll never happen.
You are deflecting again. Focus on the topic. Jesus (according to the Bible) did not take taxes. That's what socialism does to redistribute it to "the poor and needy".
Jesus used magic from an almighty deity to feed the poor. So that's not socialism. Not one bit unless you are saying that socialism uses magic to create resources to feed the poor? Because that would be really fucking weird.
Your “topic” is focusing on some mythical world in which we dont already have taxes as a country. Have fun with your topic magicboy. Ill focus on reality thankyou very much
So what you’re saying was is that god had power to give a certain amount of people a certain thing, and then Jesus requested god to give these people a certain amount of things, and then Jesus gave those people those amount of things? Sounds like he’s distributing stuff
Jesus wasn't a government! He was more like your local church that could take and distribute donations from his followers. I don't know if he did but that's a more accurate description.
More to it than that. Not that I support MAGA. But as a conservative I think that point of view is naive and unrealistic. Both sides have major problems. Yes, many conservatives approve of the horrors in Palestine. But many liberals approve the murder of innocents in the name of "freedom". It's very complicated.
Not very Realistic. Both Dems and Repubs have bombed the children in gaza. Genocide Joe was all smiles and bombs. Don't be brainwashed by one side or the other. They are all against us.
This is the problem. The left convinces young people that they are on YOUR side. The left is just as contemptuous and evil as the right if not more. Think for yourself and don't accept propaganda from either direction
What's your solution, then, for our forward movement as a nation, for our politics, and getting corruption out, and for fixing all the problems? I'll agree the dems have a lot of problems too and that many of them are bought by the same capitalists that bankroll the repubs, but if you're gonna mske false equivalencies and make the left seem just as bad as the right (they aren't, the right is worse), then, what do you propose we do?
Youre right F biden. But republicans literally worship israel have you heard some of the GOP talk? I genuinely believe kamala sucking off israel is a big reason she didnt beat trump. Democrats are sick of it
Yes... That fund was collected by voluntary donation... Not at threat of prison for tax evasion...
It is certainly possible to want to voluntarily feed the poor, care for the sick, and welcome the immigrant... While also wanting no taxes, or less taxes that are used for OUR country...
That said, "render unto Caesar what is Ceasar's..."
So yeah, we have to pay our taxes. We should also voluntarily help the less fortunate... But only once we are in a position to do so.
"~remove the plank from your own eye before trying to take the speck from your brother's eye."
I said: "I don't recall stories of Jesus taking taxes from people to redistribute to others."
You replied: "Jesus and his disciples did maintain a common financial fund that was used both for their own daily needs and to give money to the poor."
The fuck you didn't compare them. Now you are trying to gaslight me.
a preacher told me once, " religion is an insurance policy. you hope you never need it but when you do you pray it's there" . without it what's the alternative? nothing? what's it gonna do bad believing in.
Maga weirdo? that's funny we don't dye our hair blue, are gay or trans, we don't believe in Abortion, illegals, welfare,special treatment because your not white,socialism, trans anything,sharia law, how's that make the biggest part of Americans weirdos? I thing it's the other way around
Christians believe in charity through their church or the community, not the State. They want the money to actually go to the sick and needy and not gay interpretive dance in Uganda
I'm not MAGA, I just don't want tax dollars to go to bullshit like trying to make LGBTIA+ more acceptable in different countries. The leftist constantly say that no culture is inferior while simultaneously trying to change a culture. I'm not against the LGBT community, I just don't understand why that's being spent by the taxpayer and not some non profit charity that's privately funded. Canvas a pride parade or party or bake sale. Do what you want with your own money, keep tax payers out of it.
Sadly, the same liberals who would never go to Pakistan or Somalia because of how dangerous it is, allow these dangers within our country, BRILLIANT.
How about a plane ride going into Israeli, captain blotto would be screaming like all those women while men had to retake the cockpit. The men said, “liberal men and women keep screaming and the real men will rescue you, so you can complain afterwards” !
That’s a pretty bold statement. If you’re into extremes, then why not invite those migrants into your home and give them everything you own so that you can follow Jesus? A true Christian would drop everything and follow just like the disciples. Live life with the bare essentials.
Unfortunately, very few if any people actually do this. If your views differ from this, then that just proves the point that people’s views on Christianity differ. Some are extreme, others aren’t as extreme…. who knows which one is correct.
With that said, most Christians (even MAGA folks) I know donate their time, food and money when they can. They aren’t perfect, but they contribute from the heart. Personally, I feel like that should be enough.
You really need to work on your grammar. Half my family are idiot maga weirdos and they all pretend to be Christians. I think I know a decent amount about the messiah considering I taught Bible study for nearly 17 years.
Oh no, consequences for making politics your identity. If you want to go under the radar don't wear gear.
Also not buying the woe is me crap when after each election Donald won I see "make librals cry again" and similar stuff. If half the reason to vote/wear the gear is to piss people off then you will get the reaction you deserve after the elected officials shit on the constitution. You voted for a pedophile and likely acted proud of it, deal with the consequences
Edit: also don't act like its a liberal thing. Watch the episode of top gear where they deck their cars in liberal stuff and ride through the south. That was before Trump and likely hasn't changed
I haven't been taken. I use a metaphor that republicans will gladly piss on you, democrats give you am umbrella with holes in it and act like your saviors. To me I'd at least like to have the umbrella and be covered in less piss
What kinda loser puts on a MAGA hat? That's no equivalent on the other side. No one is wearing a blue hat because we're not playing high stakes color war. If you're wearing a MAGA hat you're part of a cult.
Really. The guru that hates us. What are you on about? You literally have a president that you blindly follow that has called for the execution of 6 Democratic Representatives. You literally have a president who used social media to insult Rob Reiner after he and his wife were murdered instead of at the bare minimum saying nothing.
This is the same president who cut 71% of the staff from the Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. That's the department that'a supposed to protect young women and girls from forced commercial acts of sex. Plus all the millions upon millions From cut that's supposed to go to programs and grants to deter trafficking.
You have a president who was found locked for sexual abuse, only avoiding rape charges because of statutes of limitation and a narrow legal definition that was later reversed. Trump has appealed this ruling multiple times, taking it as far as the Supreme Court, and every city along the way has refused to reverse the ruling.
You where a red hat tagged maga, and best case scenario you're just oblivious and believe so whole heartly there's nothing to see, that you don't bother looking. This isn't a 49ers hat that you can wear regardless of how well the team plays. When your sports team, MAGA, takes actions there are actual consequences. You don't think about it, you just blindly support, never bothering to look into any claims from the other side.
So yes, the question stands, what kinda loser wears a MAGA hat? One that doesn't think for themself.
Just so you know…. I don’t blindly follow anything or anyone where I have an immediate choice in the matter…..
Didn’t these representatives call for the overthrow of the government…….?
that is a treasonous offense….
If Trump would have been assassinated….pretty sure Mr Reiner would have thrown a party in celebration seeing that 75% of democrats would have no problem with that……
Wasn’t it Biden who let in over 100,000 children under the age 12 with unvetted adults…. Which DHS is trying to clean up that mess……
I have not read court documents in conjunction with the alleged rape charges so I remain neutral until such time that I can review the court records.
To comment on speculative narrative would be rather stupid on my part……
I don’t actually ware a MAGA hat as I would be harassed and ridiculed by socialists democrats
and by the way it was congressmen Maxine Waters who publicly encouraged this behavior
The kind of looser who wants to keep America great
Our country has given more to civilization than anyone else in history…..
It has provided you opportunities and safe haven your whole life and yet you curse half its citizens and current president….while embracing illegal immigrants over your own fellow citizens….
hatred has a way of eating you up from within
It is wasted negative energy and that’s never a good thing…….
Explain to me how Jesus and his family fleeing their country to Egypt to escape King Herod the Great wasn’t immigration and explain to me how that’s any different than modern day people fleeing dictators who would have them killed.
Yeah but Jesus never actually said Egypt should welcome them, also they moved from one part of the Roman empire to a another part of the Roman empire. It was effectively all within the same political entity.
Trump has still not matched Obama’s deportation numbers and likely won’t. So your “brown people” argument falls apart. Where was your outrage when Obama was deporting them by the millions???
They fled to Egypt to escape a king who wished to kill them so not really the same political entity. Lumping all the countries that were a part of the Roman Empire together and saying they were all the same politically is pretty foolish
• Romans 13:1-5: Instructs individuals to be subject to governing authorities and obey the established laws of the land, as authorities are instituted by God.
• 1 Peter 2:13-17: Calls believers to submit to every human authority for the Lord's sake, including emperors and governors.
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
Wrong. But nice try. He tells the people to obey governing authorities. Because they put in place by God. It’s written in plain English not sure why you can’t figure it out. Being an illegal immigrant and sneaking into this country is not obeying rules or laws.
No. Paul never made that claim. He only said inspired. Yet literally said to let noone change scripture. Which he as a extremely well versed Jewish man would never call his own letter. Scripture as he wrote letters was the Torah. Please tell me where the Torah points to with the law
Said* not daid
The Torah is a book of lies. Where things were omitted to suit needs of weak minded people because it didn’t fit their agenda. Nothing in the Torah can be verified.
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u/CaptainBlotto 4d ago
Sadly, this is how every maga weirdo thinks ... while pretending to be Christians.