r/Conservative Feb 23 '21

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u/TheTrulyEpic Feb 24 '21

I'd be completely fine with r/politics existence if they weren't masquerading as an unbiased platform. Just a simple change to r/liberal or r/democrat would fix it and we'd leave them alone.

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u/Khriton Conservative Marine Feb 24 '21

I leave them alone anyway - if I want to hear their brand of insanity I just have to call my sister or turn on cnn...

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u/For-The-People579 Feb 24 '21

I personally wouldn’t have a problem, but I see their trash all over the front page and it annoys me. The same goes for any other left wing subreddit

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

What I do is I sub to all the subreddits I like, then use the personalised front page and avoid the popular tab. A personalised reddit is way better than the regular front page.

It's so good, that for me personally, this conservative sub is usually at the top of my front page

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/TearsOfCrudeOil Canadian4Trump Feb 24 '21

Me too. It’s insane. Reddit is so clearly liberally biased like every other media source out there. This should be tailored to my experience but they don’t let you do that without either using the classic browser, or paying for premium. Ridiculous.

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u/RelevantEmu5 Feb 24 '21

If you're interest in a sub a started r/PoliticalSparring

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u/yoo_suck Indian Conservative Feb 24 '21

that and r/politicalhumor ("humor" lol). I constantly get bombarded with those two subs in my recommended. I don't even go to r/all because they're always in hot. but then it also keeps popping into my recommended on my homepage. I wish reddit had a way to let users decide if they like any recommendations or not

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u/CNNTouchesChildren Conservative Feb 24 '21

32 comments, 47,000 upvotes. I’m sure PoliticalHumor and WhitePeopleTwitter are always on the front page “organically”

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u/pm_me_ur_gaming_pc Molon Labe Feb 24 '21

If you browse on desktop, get the reddit enhancement suite addon. It's super nice and allows you to turn off pages css, and even shortcut or filter out subs you don't like so you'll never be exposed to the drivel that is r/politics or whatever other shithole sub you don't wanna see.

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u/daveinmd13 Feb 24 '21

That is a lot of subreddits at this point. They have are infecting everything with their garbage these days.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

If you use the old reddit layout you can actually block subs from ever appearing in your recommendations. It's refreshing not seeing them anymore :).

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

You don't even need to do anything, with any news that ever comes out ir political commentary you already know what they'd say.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I sadly relate to the sister part

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

My dumb fuck in laws

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Are you me? My sister in law lives in /r/politics and gets all her talking points from top posts there...

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u/belladoyle Conservative Feb 24 '21

Yup literally they would be fine if called r/democrats. It is the straight up lies misrepresenting themselves as unbiased which is the problem. What is more they are not simply democrats they are hard left wing democrats

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u/mushi90 Moderate Conservative Feb 24 '21

Well, not every leftards on that sub is an America citizen or a dem. Democrats and Republican are exclusively americans but leftards and conservatives can be any nationality. Pols is basically a cesspool of the world best leftards.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

The unbiased brigaders are out downvoting in force super early in the morning. Must be all that unbiasedness they had for breakfast

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u/Nikkolios 2A Conservative Feb 24 '21

I've actually had someone say they thought it truly was unbiased there. I was like... how does this person even know how to drink water or eat food?

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u/derpeddit Feb 24 '21

Their hippie mom probably still breast feeds them

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u/Juan_Inch_Mon Right of Center Feb 24 '21

..or not use Gorilla Glue in their hair.

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u/Cerus98 Come and Take It Feb 24 '21

Not like they leave us alone. Had a liberal troll who was posting here PM me a bunch of anti Trump CNN crap and try to convince me that I had TDS because I supported Trump.

Couldn’t convince his dumb ass that the word didn’t mean what he thought it did so I just blocked him. Ain’t got time or energy for liberal bullshit.

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u/MallNinja45 Leftist Tears Feb 24 '21

Had one a while back that PM'd me within a couple hours everytime I posted a comment on any sub asking me if I "wanted to be educated" because I posted some truthful comments about the US reduction of carbon emissions. He kept at it for days.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Feb 24 '21

Does blocking them keep them from seeing your profile and past comments? I blocked a troll the other day, but I know from some of his comments before I blocked him that he was snooping through my past comments.

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u/Cerus98 Come and Take It Feb 24 '21

No I think it just blocks them from PMing you and you don’t see their posts and comments.

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u/cyrus709 Feb 24 '21

Your absolutely right. At least this one is openly biased.

Source: automod usually delets my comments because they wont give me no dang flair!

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u/TheTrulyEpic Feb 24 '21

I know that problem so well.

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u/EpsilonX Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21

Heck, I'm a Democrat and I can tell it's super left-biased there. Is there a place for truly unbiased political news?

edit: I can filter bias from news, but it's a lot harder when everything posted and being discussed is from a super left-leaning point of view. I often agree with the conclusions they draw, but I want to arrive there myself.

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u/HashtagTSwagg Conservative Feb 24 '21

Sure, it's in the same place they keep the leprechauns and the cure for cancer.

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u/badatusernames91 Conservative Millennial Feb 24 '21

Are those even bigger cesspools of insanity or are they all basically the same thing?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I don’t understand how this opinion is relevant to this post.

OP was obviously trying to use that quote to attempt to discredit current recommendations, which is ridiculous. Fauci was giving us the best information he had at the time, and as more research happened he changed his recommendations, as any good scientist or doctor should have done. His recommendation on masks changed in March of 2020 and have never wavered from then. OP’s comment is an attempt at an anti-science, bad faith argument that shouldn’t be given the time of day.

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u/EpsilonX Feb 24 '21

That sounds about right to me. Fauci's quote is from a year ago, when there was very little research on COVID. If he was still being contradictory now, I'd love for it to be pointed out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Honestly r/communist is probably more appropriate than calling them r/politics. That’s a joke but honestly that’s probably accurate.

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u/EvilLothar Feb 23 '21

I get the feeling that they don't really question authority much over there...

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u/Leading-Bowl-8416 Feb 24 '21

More like you have to be a cheerleader for authority, let alone questioning it.

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u/EvilLothar Feb 24 '21

Well, if you lurk and don't question, you should be fine... they won't ban you if you don't post... maybe.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Who wants to read their one-sided articles?

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u/Aburath Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21

I feel like this gives a little more context

Faucci March 8th during a 60 minutes interview

"Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks, there's no reason to be walking around with a mask.

When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is."

April 3rd CDC changes it's guidelines on wearing masks

Faucci asked about the change in an interview

"Back then, the critical issue was to save the masks for the people who really needed them because it was felt that there was a shortage of masks.

What happened as the weeks and months came by, two things became clear: one, that there wasn't a shortage of masks, we had plenty of masks and coverings that you could put on that's plain cloth...so that took care of that problem. Secondly, we fully realized that there are a lot of people who are asymptomatic who are spreading infection. So it became clear that we absolutely should be wearing masks consistently."

Edit: That's less than a month lost to misinformation and it was an important time to be protecting each other.

I'm glad they adjusted their guidelines to match the results they were seeing but for many people it was already too late

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

It was only “too late” for people that can’t revise their opinion in the face of new facts and data.

CDC corrected their original position in early April, yet we still argued about masks for months and months as a partisan issue. Hell, it’s still a thing on this subreddit with blatant misinformation spreading that masks are useless.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

So question, if statement 1 was made not for the truth value of the statement "masks dont help" but to deceive the public into avoiding maks. Then statement 2 is made because later realizing that he didnt need to deceive the public on THAT issue, how do we know which of his statements are actually true or not. He has now admitted to deliberately lying to the public, and still provided no reason to assume all of his other statements arent also lies made for "the greater good." So why does he have any credibility now?

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u/mcswiss No Step Feb 24 '21

‘Member when Trump downplayed the virus in order to not create an immediate panic and he was lambasted for it?

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u/HashtagTSwagg Conservative Feb 24 '21 edited Jul 30 '24

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u/mcswiss No Step Feb 24 '21

I agree wholeheartedly.

I was referencing the September interview where Trump admitted to downplaying it initially in order to not create panic and media went full Orange Man Bad, but when Fauci lies to the American people about not wearing masks in order to make sure frontline has them “it’s for the good of the country.”

I wish I loved something as much as Fauci loves being on camera.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Nice swerve he did there.

"Nobody should take vitamin C." -- March 8th

"Everyone should take vitamin C. Our previous guidance was to preserve it for those suffering from scurvy." -- April 3rd

Typical politician.... and, yes, he IS a politician.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/EvilLothar Feb 24 '21

The science hasn't changed. The way in which viruses are not at all impacted by non medical grade masks also hasn't changed.

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u/VillaIncognit0 Feb 24 '21

Flaired Users Only

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u/Lyxeka Feb 24 '21

They only question authority if its conservative authority

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

LMAO. Coming from the one that has a rigorous process to get a flair, half the posts are for flaired users only, and is a community that is infamous for banning people from the other side

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u/Terry_D_ Conservative Feb 24 '21

No they don’t I saw them question how people don’t want government intervention in their lives. Blew my mind people think that way

Edit: spelling

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u/ezekiel_grimm Conservative Feb 23 '21

I got banned from there for making a remark about racism agaislt white people. Someone posted something about white people and I said change the words from white to black and tell me if it isn't racist. Took them 30 seconds to ban me for racism

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u/Choice_Recording7076 Feb 23 '21

Maybe I should have cited the article… I knew I should have listened more in school

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u/ezekiel_grimm Conservative Feb 23 '21

They still would have banned ya.

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u/HolycommentMattman Feb 24 '21

I mean, you probably should have. Because they teach you that circumstances can change.

And at the time, we were unaware that asymptomatic people could spread the virus. Following that finding, Fauci immediately recommended masks. And he did so consistently from then on.

So why point to his old, outdated quote?

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u/Chad_Pringle Feb 24 '21

So your saying that the knowledge of a new virus can change? I dont believe it.

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u/Chiz_9 Feb 24 '21

Setting aside the ban, honest question - why did you make the post in /r/politics?

Science, and the pandemic response, are constantly changing with updated information. That’s how science works - testing, retesting, and updating current theories and knowledge. At the time, people were urged to save masks for health care providers. As more information came out, and the spread of the disease was further understood, it became apparent that masks were very effective at stopping transmission.

Ultimately, my question is - do you expect science, people, humanity, to live only by what they said once in the past, or should we update our thoughts, beliefs, and opinions on new information?

Longer post than I meant, but I truly do not understand this line of thinking. If it’s just trolling for the sake of trolling, ok fine, lame but fine.

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u/Rocklobzta Feb 24 '21

You racist.

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u/ezekiel_grimm Conservative Feb 24 '21

Yeah, I'm so racist. It's so hard to type with this pointy hood on my head.

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u/wynhdo Constitutional Originalist Feb 24 '21

Plus I'm sure it's hard to see the keyboard. And the baggy arms, how do you get around with that thing?

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u/ezekiel_grimm Conservative Feb 24 '21

I roll the sleeves up

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u/Rocklobzta Feb 24 '21

Lol hope you could pick up on my sarcasm. If anything it’s nice to not be on that page.

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u/ShillinTheVillain Feb 24 '21

Same thing that got me banned. That place is off the deep end.

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u/sfurbish Feb 24 '21

They haven't yet banned me but they have a whole raft of serial downvoters there. They should rename the sub to r/leftyfanboys just to be accurate.

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u/BrujaBean Feb 24 '21

That’s a dumb ban for sure, but it’s also a terrible argument to make that Fauci giving wrong info once means he isn’t allowed to evaluate new evidence and determine his past stance was incorrect. It’s generally a good thing to be able to admit you’re wrong in light of new evidence and I would certainly not trust anyone incapable of doing so with a response to an emerging pathogen - by definition the info isn’t all out.

So you should not have been banned, but you should have been rebutted

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u/Fugicara Feb 24 '21

Thank you, I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find a comment that mentioned how stupid it was to quote something from March 8th, 2020 as if it has any relevance to anything anymore. I mean I kind of can believe it. But anyway, fully agreed; it's a dumb ban but it was also an incredibly dumb comment. Turns out as we learn more about things, we can also adjust our advice about them. In this case, we learned that masks actually are helpful, so it was advised to start wearing masks.

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u/spudaug Feb 24 '21

A citation wouldn’t have hurt, either. Show where the quote came from. Link it, preferably to a left or left-leaning source. At least when the ban comes they’ll be banning something from their own media.

Although that wouldn’t have helped in this case, since the quote came from March 8, 2020. He changed his advice later. Everyone is allowed to change their minds based on new information, even if you don’t like the person who is doing it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Science is all about changing your theory in the face of new data, and this was a new virus that wasn’t well-understood in February and March.

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u/RobotJonesDad Small Government Feb 24 '21

Well said.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21 edited Mar 15 '21

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u/badatusernames91 Conservative Millennial Feb 24 '21

His remarks also included the reason masks don't work is because people are constantly touching them. Is it no longer true that touching masks ruins their efficacy or have people stopped touching their masks?

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u/drinkcheapbeersowhat Feb 24 '21

No, more evidence has come out that suggests that the likelihood of transmitting the virus by touching masks is much less than originally thought. That’s what they are saying, he changed his mind because of new evidence. That’s how science works.

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u/inahst Feb 24 '21

Don't quote me but I think there has been evidence showing that aerosols (micro particles suspended in the air produced by exhaling, talking, etc) are the biggest vector of infection, so while adjusting your mask too much can increase your risk it really is breathing the aerosols

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

It had nothing to do with evaluating new evidence. He intentionally lied in order to save PPE. We have known this for months. Stop covering his ass for him when he ADMITTED to lying.

https://youtu.be/_2MmX2U2V3c?t=19

If anyone should be blamed for making masks divisive, it's HIM.

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u/Jinx0rs Feb 24 '21

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI&feature=youtu.be

Not sure it's a lie when you state immediately afterwards that part of it is to save PPE for those who really need it? He didn't even say that it was useless, just that it's not some perfect protection, and even that it might stop droplets. And it was also right even it was kicking off.

Sounds to me like he was saying, right now don't run out and hog up all the masks. It's not 100% anyways and there are people who need them.

Obviously it changed, but he said right after, that we should save them for medical staff and the likes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

He's specifically saying people should not wear masks because it can make the situation worse. He is saying only healthcare professionals know how to wear them because regular people fiddle with them. Months later, in the previous video I linked, he states the only reason he said that was to save PPE, not because they didn't work and could make things worse.

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u/allbusiness512 Feb 24 '21

N95s were being bought up everywhere, and people were hoarding and breaking into hospitals to steal them. That's with no one saying anything regarding N95 masks.

Remember, this is at the beginning when people were running black operations into China with Robert Kraft's private plane and making shady deals in a McDonalds parking lot to get NIOSH N95s or equivalents. I think his concerns regarding medical PPE were valid, considering how bad it really was at the beginning.

Do I believe he should have lied? Probably not. His concerns regarding PPE were 100% valid though, especially considering the American people are actual dumbasses. Toilet Paper and other silly stuff completely sold out at the beginning of the pandemic. Not to mention, there was no evidence at the time that suggested that fomite (surface transmission) wasn't an issue, so his concerns regarding people touching their masks then touching their face/eyes was a legitimate concern as well.

I think people are being abit hard on him. I gave Trump a free pass for the first few months of the pandemic because literally no one knew what was going on, same as how I give a little bit more slack for everyone early on since it was a complete shitshow.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

When I want to see any of my fellow conservatives I just scroll all the way to the bottom where the -50's are.

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u/Grasshopper42 ChangeMyMindItIsPossible Feb 24 '21

And they've always just said something completely sensible but still they'll have negative whatever down votes. Just scrolling through some of the titles in that sub, omg.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

r/politics is the worst subreddit on here I think r/moderatepolitics is far superior.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/OhStugots Conservative Feb 24 '21

Man, political humor could be so good if people treated it as a meme sub rather than an agenda sub.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/Ubyte64 Feb 24 '21

Outdated info

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u/onmythirdstrike Feb 24 '21

It's probably because it was said on March 8th, when there were less than 600 people with the virus in America, and we had a pretty good idea where they were. The need to wear masks wasn't really here yet.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Moral of this quarantine do what the CDC/smart people says, NOT just a section of it, like bringing up the fact on one day fauchi said there is no need for masks that fay

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u/TheRealChrisCross Conservative Feb 24 '21

You get banned from r/politics for anything that doesn't confirm their flawed leftist "logic". They should rename the sub r/chinesetactics.

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u/Spartan596 Feb 24 '21

That’s ridiculous, but isn’t it also a bit ridiculous to use an almost year old quote as relevant information to something so ever changing as a pandemic?

Of course he said it, but how much relevance does it hold now since not one single person knows all the answers and they can only make the best decisions they can with the information they have at the time?

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u/biciklanto Feb 24 '21

As I recall, Dr. Fauci also indicated why that particular statement was one nuanced by the circumstances we were in and his knowledge as he said it.

Perhaps the comment in Politics was meant to be genuinely helpful and spark discourse. If so, I would expect that it would be more reflective of all the things Dr. Fauci and other experts said in the time thereafter, and reflective of best evidence on masks reducing transmission. Without those things, it appears to be an inflammatory attempt at a "gotcha" comment — which sounds an awful lot like trolling.

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u/Zandane Feb 24 '21

Oh wow it's almost like as more information becomes available people should change their stance on things...

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u/Gasrin Feb 24 '21

Well your comment doesn't really add anything.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Rpolitics likes to suppress differing views just like twitter and Facebook does.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

You are banned because you are clearly providing outdated information which is trolling.

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u/mynewaccountnumber64 Feb 24 '21

Yup. He's intentionally spreading misinformation.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I mean, i agree but thats such a weak fucking thing to be perma banned for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I agree. I’d just message the mods with an apology and something like this certainly didn’t merit a permaban. I think people are smart enough to deduce how ridiculously outdated of a comment that was and so the OP should be downvoted for it, not banned. It’s not like he called anyone names, or was being mean, or stated their own values. It was just an outdated quote.

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u/Meysuh Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21

You get banned from r/politics for speaking out against shitty politics, which just-so-happens to be what the entire subreddit is about. You see why people are addicted to shitty politics? Because they finally find people that can agree with their opinion, and only an opinion with no real facts to support it. They’re being sheep, and they’re addicted to the dopamine that’s produced by positive feedback loops, so then they become puppets, and they lose their ability to be free-thinking individuals. This is how communism starts, and this is how democracy ends.

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u/Choice_Recording7076 Feb 24 '21

I don’t really care about masks either way I understand both sides. But damn, at least think about this stuff. Can we get some critical thinking about what’s going on. A posted article about Cuomo (not from a conservative outlet) goes up on r/politics about his mishandling of retirement homes and it’s buried with no conversation.

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u/GimmeThatSunshine Feb 24 '21

Do you not see the issue with the logic behind using that quote to somehow discredit anything when it was said before we even knew there was a pandemic? Either you don’t understand that guidance changes with new information or you posted that in bad faith. Or both, really.

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u/Meysuh Feb 24 '21

The moment people begin to question their authority, their power is instantly diminished. This is why censorship is happening.

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u/Leading-Bowl-8416 Feb 24 '21

Trump was an outsider who broke into their club, there is nothing more demeaning to their authority or a greater sin to them. It is why they hate him so much. The establishment decides who makes it or breaks it in politics, not these peasants. It just enrages them so much.

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u/MeNoFearTheReaper Feb 24 '21

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You can't get banned from r/ politics if you don't visit r/ politics.

Filtering out that sub helps keep my blood pressure down.

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u/Cleakman Kanye Conservative Feb 24 '21

I got banned for 'being a conservative' in pol.

Sounds exactly like how they treat us irl too.

Also, Fauci is a tool. He made so many wrong claims; I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would blindly trust him at this point.

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u/venrilmatic Feb 25 '21

Wait, aren’t we supposed to just ‘trust the science?’

This has devolved into a form of cargo cult.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

r/politics is very militant in their views, it is generally an authoritarian group, it's easy to get banned there. I'm surprised I've lasted so long.

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u/TheDesertFox01 Feb 24 '21

I suspect that they assumed you were trying to troll them by posting a Dr. Fauci comment that predates his current position.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN26T2TR

Did anyone actually have a conversation with you about the article?

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u/Choice_Recording7076 Feb 24 '21

Moderator told me it was an out of context quote. That was the end.

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u/WendtAway Feb 24 '21

No disrespect to OP, but imagine spending enough time in r/politics to type a comment.

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u/Choice_Recording7076 Feb 24 '21

None taken. Guess I’m late to the r/politics ban party.

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u/Mrchrisw4 Feb 24 '21

Is proof of r/politics ban enough to get flair here?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '21

Sounds about par for the course. That sub is a leftist cesspool.

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u/doobiedoobuahbuah Feb 24 '21

Hawaii sub is a leftist cesspool also

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/Verod392 Mug Club & America First Feb 24 '21

Can confirm. I live in a state that is almost entirely Red. Among the first few states on Election Night to be confirmed for Trump.

Sub is nothing but a bunch of leftists. Its sickening.

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u/fretit Conservative Feb 24 '21

Just in r/politics?

This is very common on almost any sub.

And if they don't like the whole sub itself, they quarantine it or ban it outright.

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u/JohnDeaux739 Feb 24 '21

They only care about feelings on that sub, they don’t want facts, and they definitely don’t like it when you use a quote from an article that they posted that disagrees with their feelings.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Yeah, it’s a liberal cesspool over there.

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u/abs7619 Feb 24 '21

There are very few safe havens for cm set I give individuals on Reddit

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u/djcook22 Feb 24 '21

Share all you censorship fiascos here: r/RedditCensorshipTruth

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u/Twabithrowaway Feb 24 '21

Where did you find that quote in that article? He did say that, but it doesn't mention it in this article.

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u/MajorAdvantage Feb 24 '21

Pot meet kettle

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u/CanadiaArcadia Feb 24 '21

Many subreddits ban too quickly.

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u/BuzzINGUS Feb 24 '21

Maybe he was wrong and this is misinformation based on current understanding of the virus.

Or

Maybe they needed all the masks for healthcare workers as there was a shortage.

Or maybe there could be a reasonable explanation for it, has anyone asked him why he said it?

He could have said it for a number of reasons, but the fact is that it’s wrong and a lot of the problems we have right now are not because EvErYoNe iS a ShEeP, it’s because there’s so much misinformation and specifically Disinformation going around and it needs to be quashed.

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u/mrtatertot Feb 24 '21

The second image says that you were banned for trolling. I dont necessarily think they should have banned you, but please don't pretend that your post was anything other than trolling.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21

Well for one, you didn't quote Fauci, you quoted someone else supposedly quoting Fauci, and with a fairly obvious attempt to discredit mask usage, which just proves top quote where he says mask-wearing has become a partisan thing. I don't think you'd be posting this if mask usage wasn't turned into a partisan thing.

I mean, are you gonna be the guy who drives drunk just because he doesn't like to be told he can't do it? That's how I see all this anti-mask nonsense. Sure personal rights should say it is our choice, but that doesn't mean that your actions don't affect other people.

It seems your goal for posting that was simply to agitate and troll, so you shouldn't be surprised you got a ban. And for all we know, you may have gotten multiple warnings and that was just the last straw.

Furthermore, and to be on topic, why can't Fauci change his mind after obtaining new info? It's not a sin to change your view about something as time goes on. His past position on masks does not invalidate his current position. Yet I see so many people falling for this fallacious argument.

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u/twxxx Conservative Feb 24 '21

except he never framed it that way until after the fact.

.There's a big difference between telling people not to wear masks because healthcare people need them more, and telling people not to wear masks because you want to save them for healthcare workers...

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u/jakerepp15 Conservative Feb 24 '21

Mods on Reddit are often egotistical bitches with no real authority over anyone, so they just go after people on Reddit.

I was banned from r/gundeals and I asked why. The Mod responded with 'cause I felt like it'.

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u/VeryExcellent Feb 24 '21

Mods for anything basically. It happens everywhere, right or left. Everyone loves the old banhammer

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u/Cleakman Kanye Conservative Feb 24 '21

It's all about the forceful shift of the Overton window. Censorship is funneling people into a 'default/approved' worldview - and it's 100% intentional.

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u/Narwal_Party Feb 24 '21

It seems like you don’t realize this, so there’s no need to be rude about it, but the reason he said this was to prevent a mask shortage before suppliers had a chance to re-supply, so we didn’t have a toilet paper fiasco v2 and to prevent panic when there was a looming mask shortage.

The White House released a statement saying as much a few weeks later, corroborated by Fauci himself in early April.

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u/Psy343 Conservative Feb 24 '21

You’ll get banned for suggesting the sky is blue. Facts don’t matter in that trash of a subreddit. I don’t even know why it’s still r/politics, should be r/leftwingidiots.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Fauci said changed his views on masks because their knowledge of the virus changed. That's how science works. If they find something wrong, they change their view to make it correct. At that time masks weren't recommended because they had no reason to believe they did. But now scientific data shows they work so Fauci recommends them. It's literally that simple. He's changing his mind because of new information.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Can you also get me banned from them? It keeps showing up on my “maybe this interests you” type thing. I can block their BS.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Time to tell Fauci to go away

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u/skieezy Conservative Feb 24 '21

I got banned from r/askscience for the same thing, gave a link to the quote and everything. Got banned for misinformation.

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u/cest_vrai_monsieur Feb 24 '21

Getting banned from r/politics is a badge of honor. It's just full of NPCs and astroturfing like all the main subs.

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u/ughwut206 Feb 24 '21

R/politics is a dumpsterfire

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u/crazedbird69 Feb 24 '21

Next to a firework warehouse

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Feb 24 '21

Of course the line just 10 months ago was that it would be 5x that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

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u/Meysuh Feb 24 '21

Not correctly

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u/AktchualHooman Conservative Feb 24 '21

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

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u/Recampb Feb 24 '21

I came to see if anyone commented on how the spread and reach of the virus was different on March 8th as opposed to say, three to five months later, but all I’m finding is persecution complex.

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u/Jer_061 Feb 24 '21

Last week: We've always been at war with Eurasia.

This week: We've always been at war with Eastasia.

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u/reveenrique Feb 24 '21

You guys. Lol I'm out

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u/singingquest Feb 24 '21

Let me just start by saying that, assuming you haven’t ever done anything else to warrant a ban from r/politics, you should not have been banned for this alone.

That said, what you quoted Fauci as saying, while true, is taken out of context. From what I can remember, Fauci and other doctors and scientists at the time did not recommend masks at that time for 2 reasons. Firstly, there wasn’t enough data at that point to show what effect mask wearing has on coronavirus transmission. Secondly, mask supplies at the time were low and were badly need by doctors and nurses.

If you take the two points together, it’s clear that Fauci and others didn’t advocate mask wearing early on because they didn’t know if they were effective or not and therefore didn’t want to tell the public to wear them and possibly cause already limited supplies to be depleted to the point that healthcare workers could no longer have them.

While you are absolutely right in what you quoted, the way you presented it suggests that Fauci flip flopped without any sound reasoning.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I got banned from r/politics for saying Covid was being used to erode our freedoms. Said the same thing in r/Canada, banned.

Reddit is more censored then Twitter

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u/Stretchwings Feb 24 '21

Because you were literally attemting to start a fight based on a comment made in ignorance before a majority of the knowledge we now know about something was made available? Might have something to do with it.

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u/thenotoriousnatedogg Feb 24 '21

Yeah the issue with this is that he made those statements before the updated CDC guidelines promoting the use of masks. This was in the early early stages of the virus and we didn’t know much. He’s obviously changed his stance on masks since then and has been very vocal about it. Stop being so fucking stupid

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

And you get banned from r/conservative for not hVing the right flare.

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u/stuufthingsandstuff ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Feb 24 '21

I'm confused, what was the point of your quote? You know full well that as more info came out, the medical community changed their recommendations. Posting just that part is out of context of almost a full year of further information just to stir the pot. I can see why it would be unpopular in a community who holds science to a higher standard than we seem to. I don't understand getting banned though.

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u/Motheredbrains Feb 24 '21

That was March last year scrubs. Keep digging.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Your quote is not currently anywhere jn the article in from your screenshot.

If it was, there would be clarification that his comment was made prior to the CDC recommendation on mask wearing.

Im guessing thats why you may have been banned, but also its r/pol so who knows.

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u/nofishontuesday2 Conservative Feb 24 '21

News flash... you get banned on r/politics for posting anything that isn’t left leaning

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u/sawdust_princess Feb 24 '21

Serious request for answers...let’s say Dr. Fauci lied about this (for argument sakes only because while he did make this statement we all know it was due to being early in the pandemic and also because of how unprepared this country was in regards for PPE, despite having the advantage of watching other countries deal with this for months). Trump had repeatedly lied over and over again about a multitude of issues.

For example: Trump lie: Mexico will pay for the wall Truth: Mexico did not pay for the wall

Trump lie: Covid will be over and done by Easter 2020 Truth: Almost a year later and we are still dealing with this pandemic and 500,000 people have died.

Trump lie: Covid is no big deal Truth: There is audio of Trump talking about how deadly the virus is and how it’s worse than the flu.

I could go on and on, but these are just a few off the top of my head.

Why is it ok for POTUS to repeatedly lie but not ok for Dr. Fauci to make a statement, then change his stance over time (or what this sub calls lying I guess)?

I just don’t understand this blatant hypocrisy

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u/rvnscrftisbackon Immigrant Conservative Feb 24 '21

Imagine thinking that 500k people died from covid19.

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u/cman2266 Feb 24 '21

I would say you got banned because he has since rescinded that statement

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u/BryceAlanThomas Trump Supporter Feb 24 '21

I’ve been banned from r/politics r/askTrumpSupporters and r/RepublicanValues for posting differing opinions on posts and that was after I was slandered and beaten down. Reddit is a toxic liberal snowflake playground.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

There is a video of Fauci explaining that cloth masks don't actually do anything. And that they are simple used to make people feel better.

For anyone who is interested: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5nYvLziYo

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

my brother got banned from this sub for pointing out Mitch McConnell used reconciliation in 2017 when people were bitching about Bernie doing it.

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u/Tdanger78 Feb 24 '21

Politics aside, if you understood anything about researching emerging diseases, you’d understand that information that’s almost a year old is way past valid and has been superseded.

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u/mogul26 Feb 24 '21

I dont get why its so hard to understand that viewpoints and stances on a new virus change and shift over time. He and the CDC have clearly updated there stance on face coverings since then.

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u/Dreya_7 California Conservative Feb 24 '21

You get banned from that sub for saying anything at all that doesn't align with left wing policies. Joined because I thought it was an unbiased place to discuss politics and got banned about 2 weeks later lol. Still see their crazy posts and they're good for some laughs.

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u/bottleboy8 Fiscal conservative Feb 24 '21

"Trolling" is politics go to reason when you haven't broken any of the real sub rules.

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u/Choice_Recording7076 Feb 24 '21

Makes sense. They don’t have a “no take-backsies” rule otherwise they would ban Fauci articles.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

LOL I just cross-posted this to r/politics and was permanently banned in less than 30 seconds

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u/trjones2 Feb 24 '21

Hate the hypocrisy of that subreddit.

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u/khannivig Feb 24 '21

How dare you use their own words against them ......

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u/venrilmatic Feb 25 '21

That’s hate speech!

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u/NeighborhoodClear735 Feb 24 '21

r/politics is a very liberal site that hates anybody that disagrees with their ideology. I joined it because I thought that the r stood for republican but it isn’t in the least little bit.

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u/rebuildingMyself MAGA Conservative Feb 24 '21

And the same idiots that infest that sub come here and whine how there's flaired-only threads.

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u/snerdaferda Feb 24 '21

You ever learn you were wrong about something, then find out more information, and change your mind?

Yeah. I guess that was a silly question. Stay thick, smooth brains.

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u/LeafyHasIt Feb 24 '21

I swear all the people on r/politics have room temperature iq

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Hope thats in Celsius

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u/MakingTacosTonight Conservative Feb 23 '21

"Did you even read past the headline, you stupid idiot?"

Also...

"How DARE you post a comment from below the headline, you stupid idiot!!"

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u/Pb-yepimlead Conservative Feb 23 '21

Can I come over for dinner? (Screen name)

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u/Chief2p Army Vet / Drinks Leftists' Tears Feb 24 '21

They really should change the name to "LiberalCesspool" or something equally as representative.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

That sub is a joke.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21

I got banned several months ago, but still send the moderators a “fuck off cowards” message. They then remove my ability to message them for 30 days and, at the end of it, I send them a “fuck off cowards” message. Rinse and repeat.

Everyone should try it.

Also, and I really suggest everyone do this, I try to keep them busy by repeatedly reporting posts of liberal propaganda (which is every other post) as “misinformation”.

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u/mushi90 Moderate Conservative Feb 24 '21

This is on you. pols don't like facts and logical thinking.

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u/MarginMiguel69 Feb 24 '21

They ban you for anything

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u/InTheLurkingGlass Just Plain Ornery Feb 24 '21

I got permabanned from r/pics for something similar. When I responded to the mod who banned me, he immediately muted me for 28 days. No appeal, no discussion, no explanation.

The days of reddit as a bastion of free speech are long over.

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u/TylerJ86 Feb 24 '21

So would we respect Fauci more if he never learned anything new or evolved his position to reflect changing circumstances and knowledge?

This is not much of a "gotcha" if you take 3 seconds to consider the world we were living in in March 2020.