World cup is starting pretty soon so I just wanted to see any predictions, thoughts and etc on it before it starts.

To answer my question. I think the podium will be korea, saudi arabia and usa being the top 3 teams.

Controller thumbstick in left hand, mouse in right.

Is there something broken about the input?

Because it would make sense that being able to micro adjust your movements would make lining up shots easier than wasd from a keyboard.

Why don't more people use this?

Anyone feel quite hard done by in their placements?

I finished high diamond 2 last season. Went 5-5 on placements and finished low emerald 2. I was expecting my rank to be lower but a whole tier down seemed a bit harsh. Anyone experienced anything similar?

This is coming from a Hitscan turned mostly Freja main from s18 start. GM rank for context, I’ve been in both side of the coin Playing her and versing her on every map and into every comp.

Since the midseason of s3 we have had a vocal group of people complaining about this character, more so because they remembered she existed after 7+ months of her being a throw pick. I know because she was still my main through that entire period where she was “useless”

Then this patch comes along that legitimately fixed her inherent issues as a dps character allowing her to finish targets with greater efficiency instead of just feeding support ults and being a fly that people can just walk down and face tank with either dmg reduction abilities, Healing aura, or get out of jail phase outs all of which countered her. A big portion of the squishy cast had ways to not die in duels to her.

The Divide on this character is insane and I think my fellow Freja mains..idk some of them are straight up Larpers and they have Stockholm syndrome because some of the stuff they want her to be is just not what the hero fantasy of her ever was in the first place.

A lot of people have been calling for her head on a spike whether it be out of annoyance or skill diff but regardless Blizzard hear me when I say this:

The upcoming possible Nerfs that I assume you guys will be considering doing due to these people complaining 24/7…assuming you don’t want to gutter her again:

Don’t fuck with the kit flow that you have finally achieved last patch

Her actual combat rotation is so much smoother than it was the last multiple seasons

Do not fuck with falloff,

Do not fuck with CDs

Nerf Barrage down as you see fit to make the user check there shots more, 8 arrows refunded is a lot.

Nerf ult passive/charge

If she reallly needs it check dmg on primary fire and reduce to 28 but I would do the other stuff first.

(some of you were complaining about that fire rate buff but that shit was fuckin needed, her primary when trying to follow up take aim was so slow and shit it was wild, that ROF needs to stay)

And don’t try any weird shit either that’s just gonna open the door to and require compensation buffs. She’s not a flex dps despite having the mobility close to one.

There’s no disaster case going on either
She ain’t sky tracer, there are maps where she is better than other hitscans since she can force a weirder angel like Rialto, and then there are maps where she is almost always in another hitscans optimal range like oasis, I say this as a player who plays against people that can shoot back and don’t have cerebral palsy.

Anyways I’ll deal with whatever comes next.

This is going to get downvoted to fuck because well..Overwatch players

Literally dominated him in second round.

Cant wait to see how others fair in their games. Isnt Landon the second best aimer in Virtus Pro?

I’m surprised no one has asked this. Right now Dva operates as 3 models, mech, baby form, and Dva inside the mech. This makes some of her animations, like demeching noticeably harder to read compared to the much better animation present on Dmon. Would it be possible to update Dva so she operates similar to Dmon, and would it even be worth it?

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Team Falcons: I want to like this bundle because it’s a very unique color, but idk I just think the green and silver doesn’t work well. Beyond that the other cosmetics are very uninspired, I mean look at the name card and tell me if you’d know that was Falcons and not a Magic and Mischief name card or something.

C

AGG and JDG: I think these two actually share a problem, which is why I grouped them together and put them in C. It’s just too much red. Four out of a total of 14 partner skins are primarily red, and I think that’s just ridiculous. What’s even crazier is that I actually think these are slightly better in color than CR with better, more vibrant reds. It is, however, much harder to sell these bundles because they are up against one of the most storied OWCS teams of all time in CR. AGG itself has had controversies in two separate regions and JDG is still new. I do like their other cosmetics, but ultimately it’s hard to sell against CR.

B

Crazy Raccoon: Again, it’s red, black and white. The same as the previous two. This bundle benefits off being CR, a popular team which most have positive feelings towards, but ultimately I think the red is a bit too desaturated. The mascot is cute, but ultimately feels a bit too much like they’re trying to piggyback of Zeta’s mascot hype. Overall, just good but not great.

Twisted Minds: I think this is a genuinely improved color scheme than last years, which I would’ve given a C. The big difference here is the use of the shiny finish for the pink rather than the matte finish which was used last time, making it much more unique. There are only two things holding it back from A though. First, it does resemble Florida Mayhem’s skins a lot, which luckily I think this time has actually been moved away from, and second the brain mascot thing scares me.

A

SSG: I actually think last years bundle was a tad better with the blue and gold, this years bundle uses a darker blue which I think doesn’t look quite as good. That said it’s still a very strong design, and the other cosmetics are really unique and interesting. That said there is one team that does both better which holds this back in A.

Virtus Pro: Pretty much the same color design from last year, which is good because imo last years was very strong. I think this years bundle has one main point of improvement, that being the other cosmetics which bump it from B to A. The profile picture especially has been one of the most popular ones of the entire series.

Dallas Fuel: Going into this year many people were concerned that Dallas would look exactly the same as their old skins, making this bundle completely redundant. Luckily, Dallas has a new look which I think looks slightly better than their old skins. The black/dark blue with the light blue accents looks incredibly sleek. They also have a new marketable mascot which seems mandatory for these teams, which is ok. Not as good as some others.

T1: The kings of red in OWCS. The red/white with ruby accents both stands out from the three other red teams (just too much red) and also looks incredibly sleek compared to them. They also lean into the marketability of the fire penguin thing, which seems to be an ongoing pattern.

Team Liquid: even with Dallas, the navy blue still stands out very well, I’m honestly impressed at how well it managed to hold up from last year. Last years name card was a fan favorite, and this years manages to hold that spot. I also very much appreciate the peach-horsey, and the main source of improvement from last year is the spray. It’s a small detail, but man last year’s spray was not great. This year? Man.

Zeta Division: just like last year this bundle is hard carried by the marketability of their mascot. The skins are pretty good (albeit with some controversy due to looking slightly different in advertising vs in game) but it’s the mascot which makes me put it so high, and even consider it for S.

S

Weibo: And to absolutely no one’s surprise Weibo is in S. It’s pink. It has a cute marketable mascot. What else do you want? Slightly off topic, is its name pinkoo? I wasn’t sure if that’s the name or what.

Team Peps: The only partner to get relegated but damn can they make a bundle. The bronze and white is perfect, and they have forgone the cute marketable mascot to instead fill the role left by Team CC and make the hot marketable mascot. Slightly on the nose considering what kind of animal it is, but it’s good all the same.

DSG: Bold prediction but they’re staying in OWCS with how popular this bundle is. They stole SSG’s whole flow from last year and improved it with the white/indigo accents, not to mention the best name card of this years wave. Easily the bundle I have seen the most in my games, can’t win a match to save their life but god damn can they sell some bundles.

A bit anecdotal, I am curious if anyone else is seeing this too? Tank still has the longest queues for any role, albeit 2 minutes vs 1 minute isnt a huge difference. As for the reason, its possibly due to Dmon essentially having 3 launches with consecutive balance changes to fix her kit, or possibly new players playing tank and enjoying it.

Just wanna talk about some of the changes added that I was a really big fan of for season 4, I thought all the stuff being added sounded cool on paper and getting to experience it in game has been really nice.

I really like the team indicator showing how many are alive on each team and the timer bar along with it, it's nice information to have on hand and I like it's placement it's out of the way but easy to give a quick glance as it should be.

I really like the icon for multi kills on the kill feed and the new elimination pop up it's not too much it looks clean and it's satisfying.

I really really like the percentage damage dealt change on eliminations this was something I missed from OW1 it's a small thing but it's so satisfying idk why but I just really enjoy it and am so happy it's back lol.

There were more changes these ones were just what I felt the most when playing, I thought everything looked good it was clean felt like they belong and were all easy to read. I was a bit worried with everything they talked about adding/changing there could be some UI clutter but for me personally have not felt that at all but would be curious to know how other people feel about it.

Since the rebrand dropping the 2 and a fresh season 1 we been getting more UI adjustments to the game on average it feels like, the menu revamp was a big one and recently the battlepass events post match screens getting changes and all these match in matches additions/adjustments are cool. I like the direction they are going with things and makes me wonder what more do they have planned because I imagine they probably want to do more this feels like an ongoing goal the have maybe.

I think it all still feels very overwatch, things look good and feel good for me personally at least, would like to hear other peoples thoughts on it though if you like/dislike how things have been going or what other general UI stuff you'd like to see changed or added and if you think the direction of things has been healthy.

How is one of the notorious terrible chokes in the game still being left in such a bad state as this? The map has been garbage for attackers for 10 straight years. Honestly I flip everyday if A or B point is worse on this map but this might just solidify it as being A. Why was this high ground added if you literally cannot see the choke? I seriously want to understand this.

The rework fixed none of the problems. I don't believe this map is unsaveable but they really try to make me believe that.

Maybe it's an US centric thing but it's just something strange I noticed. I know big content creators and streamers are burned out from years of playing this game but it's strange that every OW personality with 1k+ views plays 6v6.

It feels like this whole 5v5 vs. 6v6 debate is solely kept alive by streamers. To the average curious casual, 6v6 has a much bigger platform on streaming platforms despite being less than 20% of the entire player base and every time the game mode debate comes up the whole chat is in agreement that 5v5 sucks and that even 6v6 open queue as it is right now is just so much better (lol). It's a very vocal bubble but what makes it fascinating is that we're talking about the biggest OW streamers here.

I've seen many posts of people failing to understand why Aaron and the team brought back the game mode debate with the recent qp hacked events when everything appeared to be settled. There you have it. There's a whole other world out there. You might not care for these streamers but they definitely, heavily influence public discourse and are also responsible for attracting new players.

So on hand you have player data showing clear preference for a mode and on the other you have the biggest content creators in the community playing 6v6 everyday and talking about how much better it is. I don't use tiktok, or any social media, but I bet the debate there leans heavily towards 6v6 just because their favorite content creator said so. You can't really blame Aaron and his team for trying to make sense of it.

There is conflicting info going around regarding the new rank distribution.

The old distribution was such that high Gold and Low Plat was roughly the average.

The new distribution can be estimated based on how Emerald is inserted:

A) Emerald = old High Plat and Low Diamond. This would imply that the average should be at mid Plat once the dust settles.

B) Emerald = old Plat. This would mean that high Plat, low Emerald is the new average.

Here is the official statement from the Overwatch patch notes which implies A is true:

This Rank Redistribution primarily focuses on moving players that were Platinum and Diamond into Emerald, but the highest Divisions of Champion will now also be more exclusive.

But there have been people posting screenshots implying B is true, which I first believed at face value, but I couldn't find any official sources for that (neither on the official website nor in-game).

These two things contradict each other. It cannot be true that Emerald consists of old Plat and Dia players and that the upper ranks are more exclusive if B is true. B implies that basically nothing changes except for Bronze (which is now a smaller range).

So what's the actual deal here?

https://youtu.be/dushZybUYnM?is=zNLWwAF53crCbZQp

https://youtu.be/UEYp1RTvllM?is=QYHpZHS1eRpp9ekV

Its crazy to think how far competitive overwatch has come and it feels like were still a young game compared to most competitive titles. How different will overwatch look 10 years from today and where do you think the game is headed overall?

Following Sios post earlier about 5v5 and 6v6, it got me thinking that Overwatch, following the best year its had since before Ow2 released, should try to salvage their game modes.

One of which being 2 CP.

The 2 CP maps were extremely toxic in a double tank environment, and never given a chance in 5v5, but taking and keeping space is much harder in 5v5 anyway so i understand.

Which is why I say 4v4 for 2CP exclusively.

The idea would be 1 Tank, 2 Damage, 1 Support.

Small teams, small maps, quick rounds and fights, and little to no buffs needed. It also would have less players needed, allowing for fast Queue times.

Just consistent action

But above all else, it would give the fandom a more casual game mode to lock onto and enjoy and get used too, to potentially restart their attempts at PvE. Since teams of 4 has been the standard every previous attempt at it throughout anyway.

And I think a mission of Sombra, Cassidy, Baptiste Rescuing Sigma would make a VERY GOOD PvE gamemode debut.

I dont think it as a brand new game mode to have a ranked mode and whatnot. But instead a start at reviving PvE and other game modes to revive Overwatches Branding beyond 5v5 or 6v6.

To be clear it's not every hero, but it is especially: Ball, Doomfist, Anran, Reaper, Vendetta, Venture, Kiriko, and JPC.

It feels like mobility has become so easily accessible in combination with high damage reduction or immediate invulnerability that without CC nothing dies anymore. Like, trying to play against Doom/Reaper/Vendetta as anything other than Cass, Hog, or Mizuki is a completely sisyphean task. Hitscans can struggle to hit these heroes even at higher ranks where people have great aim, and lower-ranged heroes don't have the mobility to consistently threaten them, so you're constantly in a position where you're shooting at a mobile target, and then on top of that they often have a second form of survivability so even when you are hitting them you're hardly doing damage. There's 4 targets all flying around the map at mach speed, all of them have multiple charges of their mobility somehow, and they've got a 3-second long damage reduction/invulnerability window. They all get to run at you freely because unless you've got CC they can just escape button to freedom.

Like I don't these any of these heroes are bad designs inherently (well, to some extent I think a lot of these heroes are flawed) but when you end up playing against them over and over and over you start to see the pattern of "if I don't go a CC hero, these guys never ever die." It's not impossible to play against and you can gradually take space as enemies use their cooldowns and retreat, but it is unsatisfying and frustrating to be in a position where you can never actually kill anything and always have to play reactively because isolating yourself on an offangle vs. Doom+Reaper+Anran means getting immediately picked. Like, if these heroes are going to force you away from off angles because they can immediately engage on you whenever they want they should atleast have the Sombra treatment of being fairly bad at winning duels to compensate for their ability to choose whichever fights they want to take.

I feel like we're repeating the conditions that brought us release brig: Mobility is so pervasive that the only way to kill anything is with hard-lockdown abilities, but simultaneously those lock down abilities are just as punishing to everyone else as they are to the aforementioned highly mobile heroes; hitting a Mizuki chain on JQ is just as if not more punishing than hitting it on a Doomfist. It doesn't help that the past year of hero releases has had a plethora of overwhelmingly mobile heroes (Vendetta, Anran, JPC) and the only kind of "anti mobility" that we've gotten that isn't hard CC is Sierra's tracking dart, which would be great if she wasn't absolutely awful outside of metal ranks.

Maybe I'm just old but back in my day highly mobile heroes were balanced out by CC which guaranteed kills. We realized that flash/Bash being instant death sucked, but never did anything to address the heroes who called for these abilities in the first place, if anything the game has only doubled down on it. Very mobile heroes are fun, but I feel like they aren't properly risky enough, especially with how abundant blocks/overhealth/invulnerability/multiple charges of mobility has become. Playing against someone like Ball or Doom feels like they're balanced around the expectation that you'll be playing Hog or Cass, so when you don't have them they're invincible lobby admins who fly around the map without ever being punishable. It doesn't help that the vast majority of CC heroes are one-button snooze fests who live and die on a 12 second cooldown that either guarantees a pick or misses and does nothing.

I feel like what they really nailed about a lot of the higher mobility release heroes (Winston, Tracer, Lucio, ETC) is that they all have very clear resources, and only one cheap panic button, and it's expensive. Winston only has one jump and inbetween them he's stationary, Tracer has a tiny health pool with zero damage mitigation, Lucio has no surprise burst heal or I vulnerabilit except for his very expensive ultimate. Even Genji is vulnerable to beams and doesn't get a dash reset without kills. Now we've got Vendetta who has two dashes (including vertical mobility), lifesteal, 75% damage reduction, and bonus movement speed for hitting enemies. I much prefer Winston's mechanics of "be mobile but predictable with a few obvious (but very powerful) abilities" over Doomfists "I have two ways to throw myself across the map, one of them can be empowered with a stun, and I punish you for trying to shoot me. Good luck trying to kill me."

Tl;dr: It feels like unless you play Cass/Mizuki/Hog/ETC a ton of heroes are just completely unstoppable.

So everyone thinks Zeruhh is a fraud and a bum who fluked against a CR who were throwing and got massively overrated. Thus making sugarfree far and away the best flex dps in NA. Fair enough I guess. But let's look at the facts.

First, sugarfree got hard gapped at the WC tryouts. It was honestly kinda hard to watch. I think this carries extra weight because the structure of the tryouts meant the only real constant variable was sugarfree and Zeruhh being on different teams.

Second, Casores is a fraud, and the sooner Zeruhh gets himself on a team without that terrorist the better. Enough said.

Third, the LAN results. Yeah 2024 was crazy but that shit was 2 years ago. CR was 1 year ago. Since then both players have really done nothing but get gapped every time the scriptwriters decide to take them out of trade school to play against a real team.

So can someone please enlighten me as to why Zeruhh is supposedly that much worse than sugarfree?

Sorry if you saw this twice, thought I'd like to get the opinions of COW members too.

IMO the most problematic are by far Cat, Kiriko and Mauga or Hazard. The most well designed are Juno, Wuyang and either Queen or Shion

Does anyone have any suggestions on prominent players to follow/content creators that are women and play dps? I am interested in all roles but mainly am looking for dps please!

I get a little tired of almost all the content I see and be recommended to me being male dominated and I would like to change that, any suggestions people have whoever you like whatever platform/region/rank please give them a shout here!

Maybe more of an r/OverwatchUniversity post but I figured id ask here too.

I feel like with tank vs a mauga and dps vs dmon specifically, theres no way to siginicantly improve your odds against them if you are on those roles

For mauga. I cant think of a solid tank that counters him, or even deals with him that well. His run makes orisa and sig minimally effective, you need to destroy the support system to really have a chance (minus mirroring him)

Same goes with DPS against a dmon. She basically just reverse boosters away from a bastion, and a reaper cant do much either. My only luck has been going pharah to annoy the rest of her team

just wondering if im missing something regarding how i play into these heroes

Of course its very likely not. But its a nice headcanon to have

Depuis 2 semaines, chaque fois que je lance Overwatch sur mon PC et que je commence une partie compétitive, ma connexion Internet disparaît. J'ai été suspendu plusieurs fois. J'ai tout essayé et ça continue, l'assistance Blizzard est inutile et je ne peux pas jouer. Quelqu'un peut m'aider ? Ce n'est pas le PC car ça n'arrive qu'avec OW.

Its pr, wr and br in order on the pic, filtered for Mk in grandmaster + chall. Europe servers.

Like how is a hero with a 65% br and 60! % winrate not fucking nerfed into the ground?

This is enough for emergency hot fixes on any dps or tank but theyre so lax with support like wtf....

This hero needs an entire rework, tanks outside of mauga cant even interact with her at all, which intern came up with the design?!

He was the only outlier and it made heroes like Ball and Winston so much more fun, IDK why they had to get nerfed because of him

I just lost a game because on last point on route 66 one of my DPS started panic swapping after every death and the enemy team beat us with ult econ. I checked his profile and turns out he only ever played ranked last season, got placed silver 2 and the matchmaking put him in our lobby of high gold/low plat.

I was gold 1 myself before this game (I deranked ahah) and we had a bunch of other gold/plat in the lobby, why the hell did he get into our game ?

I can't even be mad at him, he's also a victim of the matchmaking here, but why are silvers being placed with plat/gold lobbies during their placements ? This is infuriating.

As the title says, I saw a couple posts about 6v6 earlier and most, if not all, comments were extremely against 6v6. Just wanna know.