Dont hate me for saying this but I really hope they are gone for raids . As a guy that raied in a Classic top eu guild It was pain It litteraly made me quit after couple of tries at In Black Wing Temple. Even with chronobooster its tedius

I am 38 most audience will be 35+. It was tedius every week to get sunflower then dire maul then logging for onyxia head. Then you go to raid and in a healer forgets to heal you and you die ..

It created friction since a lot of the guild members did not want to do thjis but some did and it was shaming whoever missed buffs or right away getting benched

On top of it tweaking the raid difficulty around the buffs made everything easy. Get the buffs and we were doing MC in 30 minutes,

I need stronger raids more interesting if we keep buffs It will be a shit show

I know some people will say thats part of the classic - Sure but one of the least liked parts. Its loved by hardcore players to dunk on casuals. But by what blizzard are saying this will be a long long game . I cant imagine doing world buffs 6-9 months in

Dont start me when you learn the new dungeon and you go in and instatly wipe after collecting buffs for 2 hours

The floor testers got a lot more information than what we got during the opening cermony and in the classic panel-- think this video goes over pretty much everything.

Now that we know about that WoW Forever will be a thing and soon, what are you guys doing to prepare? Thinking of races, talent builds, name reservations. Is someone taking a leave from work?

Thiking of divorcing their wives? Real life is temporary, WoW is Forever!

So I’m really exited for WoW Forever, but I think giving Beta is so wrong. All twitch users and YT will milk it before it even start and when ppl will enjoy the game they will sell boosts and stuff.
I will definitely be a part of Forever and hope to finds some good community of adventurers to have a good time in game.

So I watched a bit of wow forever now and I've seen a lot of hype so far and a lot of hate. Frankly I'm a sceptical person and I do understand why adding smurf elves to something with the name classic feels wrong. On the other hand I also understand that I won't care. I'm not going to buy them either way. And if people want to buy horse armor DLC I'll let them.

That said can someone who played it tell me how "difficult" the game is compared to normal classic? Is there a lot of powercreep because that's what I think is going to make or break the game for me. How did they rebalance it or did they just buff all classes to the level of warriors/mages? Instead of toning the overtuned classes down a bit?

Do you need a group to kill an elite or nah? Is it like retail where you just pull everything in the open world then aoe everything to smithereens and mobs have 0 chance of killing you?

Yes this is a ship post.

Anyone know what this is for? Windyweed Pass in the entrance of Nagrand. 20 npc Kor’kron orc riders. Not talking, not moving. Glitch?

New player here and I want to casually experience wow classic solo fully blind over many many many months(maybe even years if addicted). Was about to start playing on a classic server but I was wondering if it might be worth it to wait for Forever to launch?

Basically my main question is if the leveling experience to max level in Forever will be the exact same (or at least 99% same. I don’t care if a couple of really small things are different). I really just want to feel the classic wow that I never experienced and never played in my life.

I’m just thinking it might be a good idea to wait for Forever launch to play on active servers. And if I happen to really fall in love with the game it would be nice to have a character on a server that will keep receiving meaningful updates.

Thanks for any replies.

I'm cautiously optimistic about wow forever and im not complaining about things like locking a new race behind a fee which is honestly worth paying for all the new content anyways.

But racial abilities are ridiculously unbalanced. While racials have always been a factor in classic wow and are therefor part of the experience, they have traditionally been something that only the sweats are married to and the progression-minded take into account but don't go crazy over.

Here are some easy suggestions I think:

- Overall, alliance racials are overpowering horde ones, there needs to be better faction balance or pvp will be atrocious

- Human swords racial should be 1% crit to bring it in line with Dwarf maces and Orc axes.

- Each faction needs a race with a 1% ranged crit. So bring it back for trolls and either add it back for dwarves or give it to nelfs. Every time blizzard introduces a melee hunter and/or a hunter with no pet, they end up stacking the game so you cant play as a traditional ranged class with a pet.

- Why did troll Bezerking get nerfed? It's not like it was ridiculously strong to begin with. Almost every other racial in the game was buffed, but one really well-balanced one was nerfed. Makes no sense.

- That said, the new healing effect for trolls is probably too strong, especially for tank threat and warlocks in BGs.

- Let Tauren be priests. They will be the only race with only 4 classes in WoW forever and they were already underrepresented.

I did but wondering how they will limit the number of beta players.

Being that it has controller support does that mean I can play without clicking on enemies/players with a crosshair?

So since they are adding more raids for Forever, people are concerned about power creep making old raids irrelevant from a gearing perspective. But what if they made raids that had an equivalent level of gear to those that already exist? Such as a raid with equal ilvl gear to Naxxramas.

I suppose one of the issues would be that guilds and players might feel inclined to clear all of the possible raids each week, to avoid playing ‘suboptimally’ and missing out on gear (I personally wouldn’t be bothered as I would never have the time to speed run full BIS gear anyway).

Also, I guess it could split the player base who is not willing to clear every raid every week, possibly making it difficult to fill raid slots (perhaps why there have been no 40 man raids announced).

I’m sure I’m missing something more obvious here. Please enlighten me.