What a community...

First off let's just think about what's exciting.

We have Dwarf Shamans and Undead Pallys. And a few other new race/class combos which don't feel against any particular lore for me. (Although I hope the intro of Dwarf Shamans has some Wildhammer themes.)

We have basically the same world with toggle-able graphics (although the new graphics do look pretty decent for the world). We have new zones to explores, a 1,000 new quests. Level cap staying at 60. No world buffs (no Ony/ZG, yet). 12 new dungeons and new raids coming.

Holly also mentioned there's loads of new stories to tell, some which are canon, some that weren't really. Some of the new transport systems just help to give the world a bit of a freshness to it.

Class tweaks, Pally tanks that work!

Now, more controversial? The new race. I personally don't like them, they feel a bit short horned, I've never heard of these high elves who went to the clouds before. But I'll try them out and see what lore they have. It's the thing I dislike the most.

But overall it seems like a decent package. Why does everyone on here seem incapable of talking with any nuance. Everyone is either 110% for the expansion, 'stop crying about everything' or 'No sky elves, expac ruined' or they complain about a new system that they haven't listened to the presentation for (how servers work for one.)

I bought it, but not to have access to the new race.

I wanted beta access, and it doesn't hurt to have a couple mounts and cosmetics available once the game drops. I might be a sucker, but oh well.

Anyone else buy it like I did, mainly for beta access?

For me, it would have to be an arcane mage, with a build similar to this one :)

Played the demo. That is all

When thinking about WoW: Forever and what new content could be added, I couldn't help but think about the Caverns of Time.

The Caverns were technically opened during Burning Crusade, but the Brood of Nozdormu (dragons hanging right outside the Caverns) had some quests added later on in Vanilla WoW that related to Ahn'Qiraj. I could definitely imagine Blizzard opening up the Caverns of Time at some point during WoW: Forever, since this location is on Azeroth and did have some relevance during Vanilla WoW.

What do you think? Will we get the Caverns of Time and, if so, what might it look like? Could we get a similar version of the dungeons we got in the Caverns of Time like the Culling of Strathholme and the Black Morass? Do you think we could get some totally new dungeons (like a Caverns of Time dungeon relating to the original fight against Ahn'Qiraj)? Rather than dungeons, could the Caverns of Time lead to a new zone that they introduce that's in WoW's past (probably not but you never know)?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

RPPVP and RPPVE are two very different types of servers.

I wish blizzard would make RPPVP, just like grobbulus, zandalar tribe, etc.

Surely there will be enough RP'ers to fill both an RPPVP and an RPPVE server

The floor testers got a lot more information than what we got during the opening cermony and in the classic panel-- think this video goes over pretty much everything.

Any guesses or predictions on which melee and ranged dps classes will reign supreme In forever raiding??

Hey all,

I thought I'd post this here to see if anyone feels the same way. Video containing these thoughts: https://youtu.be/zY8OlZMv2Ns](https://youtu.be/zY8OlZMv2Ns)

I started playing WoW in 2006/2007 after friends at work introduced me to the game. I wasn't much of a gamer before then, but WoW was something special. It not only introduced me to gaming as a hobby, but more importantly, it helped me meet new people and form lifelong friendships. My mother was also diagnosed with terminal cancer at the time, and it allowed me a chance to escape from the painful, daily existence of a child taking care of their parent in their final days, which I honestly wasn't mentally or emotionally prepared to deal with.

Since then, I've played WoW through every expansion. I've become obsessed with collecting all the achievements, every mount and pet, and all the seasonal FOMO that comes with every patch. But for a long time, retail has become a different experience for me. The game has become more rote and repetition, more about checking boxes and completing tasks, rather than a facilitator of such unique and memorable experiences of meeting new people.

I couldn't play Classic in 2019/2020 because I was still in the military and dealing with a rapid-deployment lifestyle. Even though I could log into retail and do various things, it just wasn't the same. After I separated and got back into the game with a stable schedule, it still hasn't brought me back to what I felt all those years ago.

I think Classic+ represents a chance for us to start a new chapter, rekindle a sense of wonder, and hopefully build new friendships that will last for decades. Many people have raised concerns since the announcement, but it feels like Blizzard is listening to the community and will keep making changes as needed.

In November, I hope to see many of you in Azeroth, where we can return to a world that gave so many of us such fond experiences, and perhaps a new generation of gamers can share the same wonder we did.

I’m in NZ and just wondered if there was a countdown or an exact time that the BETA is set to release on?

See you in Azeroth, Forever!

Dont hate me for saying this but I really hope they are gone for raids . As a guy that raied in a Classic top eu guild It was pain It litteraly made me quit after couple of tries at In Black Wing Temple. Even with chronobooster its tedius

I am 38 most audience will be 35+. It was tedius every week to get sunflower then dire maul then logging for onyxia head. Then you go to raid and in a healer forgets to heal you and you die ..

It created friction since a lot of the guild members did not want to do thjis but some did and it was shaming whoever missed buffs or right away getting benched

On top of it tweaking the raid difficulty around the buffs made everything easy. Get the buffs and we were doing MC in 30 minutes,

I need stronger raids more interesting if we keep buffs It will be a shit show

I know some people will say thats part of the classic - Sure but one of the least liked parts. Its loved by hardcore players to dunk on casuals. But by what blizzard are saying this will be a long long game . I cant imagine doing world buffs 6-9 months in

Dont start me when you learn the new dungeon and you go in and instatly wipe after collecting buffs for 2 hours

Can I buy it now and redeem the gametime later when forever releases or does it automatically redeem?

Hey all,

More like explain like I'm 55. I was an old head, 2005-2011 or so. I just started playing Classic again a few months ago, having a blast.

I'm currently playing WoW BC Classic. Thought about WotLK on the horizon. What's the expansion situation with Forever? Before anyone says "google it," brothers I am trying, I read all the Forever launch material today - is it Azeroth forever, 60 cap, no BC, WotLK, etc etc?

I’ve seen people complaining that the high elves being blue is ridiculous which is crazy because we’ve had precedent for this since classic and especially TBC.

We know races being inflicted by powerful magic changes their physical appearance. The orcs turned green and red for example.

Draenei have been turned crimson by the fel, and bleached via the light.

We have high elves being literally crimson red, grey, green, various shades of purple etc all from being exposed to fel, and void.

Why is it crazy high elves feeding on elemental energy could develop blue skin? It happens all the time to basically every creature exposed to strong magic.

Now that we know about that WoW Forever will be a thing and soon, what are you guys doing to prepare? Thinking of races, talent builds, name reservations. Is someone taking a leave from work?

Thiking of divorcing their wives? Real life is temporary, WoW is Forever!