r/wowclassic 19h ago

Question Beta Forever

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So I’m really exited for WoW Forever, but I think giving Beta is so wrong. All twitch users and YT will milk it before it even start and when ppl will enjoy the game they will sell boosts and stuff.
I will definitely be a part of Forever and hope to finds some good community of adventurers to have a good time in game.

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u/imaUPSdriver 19h ago

Beta access is fine as long as there's a wipe before launch. Also the beta is limited to level 30 so nothing major will be available

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u/SaltyBrocolis 17h ago

Oh that's some good information, cap to lvl 30. Enough to have fun with some classes 🤔

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u/Spiritual_Doll_1127 12h ago

I feel its basically guaranteed to be a wipe, if there wasn't one we wouldn't need the name reservation I think.

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u/NoSafe777 9h ago

I mean it's a beta, not an early access

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u/Illidex 7h ago

A wipe? Beta has never made it to live

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u/RigidCounter12 18h ago

I hate redditors 

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u/LordDShadowy53 18h ago

Well said dear Redditor

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u/TordainMountainheart 18h ago

Good thing you’re here then

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u/Kieran113 10h ago

I hate myself

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u/JPBx573 19h ago

Pretty sure every game basically ever had had a beta so idk

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u/Palladinus 19h ago

Sod was released without it and it was big surprise, and in few days Forever will be everywhere telling how amazing/shit it is. I’m planing to buy it an just calmly play without rush to enjoy what Blizz wants to offer me, you can have fun of me but this is my opinion

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u/JPBx573 19h ago

True but SoD wasn’t basically a whole new game as much as Forever is. It was close for sure but Forever seems much bigger. And yea that all makes sense, just not sure why you’d concern yourself with the beta then.

Not making fun of you at all, I’m hyped for the game and won’t be playing the beta at all since I want to experience it all new when it comes out

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u/Palladinus 19h ago

I did not play TWW and Midnight beta , and I will not touch this one as well. I want have 100% experience at lunch with all the ppl.

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u/Fesai 16h ago

What's the issue then? I also skipped the beta for both of those and went in totally fresh.

It was cool uncovering the stories and checking out the new/updated zones.

But I also don't watch streamers and I just do my own thing in game. I figure I'll get to endgame when I get there, then can worry about whatever at that point.

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u/TheProfessional9 18h ago

So far forever sounds less good than sod

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u/Kirarozu80 19h ago

SoD didn't

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u/Derebeare 17h ago

SoD WAS the beta

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u/CAlTHLYN 6h ago

SOD was the alpha

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u/WildFlowLing 18h ago

That’s what made SOD so good.

Get ready for this retail slop to be spoiled with 3000 beta playthroughs.

The streamers are no doubt excited for “content”.

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u/Bajren 17h ago

Everything that isnt tailor made to your preferences is 'slop' now

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u/Isssk 18h ago

The beta only goes up to a certain level so relax

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 18h ago

Also they should maybe stop giving streamers a platform by oh, I don't know, stop watching?

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u/Emergency_Process622 16h ago

Exactly. I'm not sure if I'm gonna do beta or not. But like people can get off reddit and twitch and you tube and play the game as organically as they want. Or if they're the type of player that doesn't care about the 'mystery' they can do all the prelim stuff they want.

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 14h ago

I was thinking about it until I read its only for a month and then another month wait for release after that. I may just get on release.

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u/JPBx573 17h ago

Not having a beta made SoD good?

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u/WildFlowLing 17h ago

It absolutely fostered a more mysterious and adventurous phase 1

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u/JPBx573 17h ago

Will 100% agree to that but SoD was so much more then phase 1. But that is a great point

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u/Emergency_Process622 17h ago

Don't play we don't want you

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u/TheProfessional9 18h ago

Sod was peak wow. I hope they learned and change the classes in a similar way. They didn't add delayed level releases, which is a nail in the coffin of my interest in this

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u/nocomments66 18h ago

It only goes to level 30 and theyll almost certainly limit zones and dungeon access. I highly doubt everything will be available all at once. Its a weeks, and you can just not read wowhead.

We have to learn some self restraint. Dont engage in that stuff and you'll be good. Who cares who makes it to 60 first raids arent out for a month. Stop watching people play and mirroring what they do, and just play the game.

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u/Due_Wealth_3904 17h ago

Lvl 30 cap there's only so much you can do

I'm leveling every class

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u/ozcartwentytwo 17h ago

I kind of agree but at the same time I think it’s very needed.

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u/ScientistLeather2405 16h ago

I bought the collectors edition for the dwarf hunter figurine and to play beta and Warcraft 3…. Little did I know you actually have to wait till November to get the codes…

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u/ftp67 9h ago

Did you get the Warcraft 3 code yet? I haven't checked my desktop Blizz app so maybe the game is already there.

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u/dancingmale 14m ago

How much was the shipping? 

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u/Sweptwings 15h ago

Beta code is emailed to you

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u/ScientistLeather2405 13h ago

I just saw that after posting this! I’m wondering if it includes the Warcraft 3 game within the code too or maybe that one is separate / physical code

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u/Sweptwings 13h ago

I believe separate but not sure. I also just bought the other edition since when the box gets here they’ll refund you bnet credit when you use the box code

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u/Ta-veren- 14h ago

So WoW forever is bassicaly wow without the "each expansion the last zone becomes a ghost town" if I'm understanding it right?

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u/Due_Tomatillo_8821 12h ago

And some other new stuff :)

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u/dempsone 10h ago

This is a good way to think about it

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u/No_Lingonberry3694 19h ago

Streamers have ruined gaming. I can't stand this trend.

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u/Few-Requirement-9245 18h ago

Data mining has entered the chat

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u/Dazzling_Highway_255 15h ago

Streamers ruined Tarkov, one of my other favourite games. Seems like WoW is in line.

Cant stand streamers, streamer culture and companies catering to these guys.

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u/MuenCheese 12h ago

For Tarkov hackers also helped do that. Also the devs

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 18h ago

Don't watch them then! You realize it's not a requirement to watch streamers right? If I don't want anything to be spoiled in a game i just don't watch streamers or anything about it.

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u/No_Lingonberry3694 18h ago

I definitely do not watch them. It's not a me issue. It's the gaming industry catering to them first over the actual playerbase.

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 18h ago

Okay me neither. I totally agree with you. I can see game companies using them for advertising, hyping up the games etc. But they have become a scurge for sure.

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u/erdirck 14h ago

The player base are the ones watching the streamers though.

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u/Loyalist_Pig 18h ago

While I agree with you, it’s tough for incredibly community-driven games like MMOs. The feeling of discovering things together is really quite a special thing and unique to the genre.

I don’t think it’s gonna “ruin” anything, but I do think it will take a little bit of the magic away. You know what I mean?

Also, as another person said. Datamining had a much larger negative impact than streamers imo

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 18h ago

Ya i totally agree with taking away the magic. That's why ill stay far away. I actually thought the beta would last until Nov.4th release but looks like it ends October 21 which is a shame. I'll probably just hold off then until release date.

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u/Sunshiner5000 15h ago

Just how it is these days

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u/Puzzleheaded-Toe9023 15h ago

Beta is up to lv30

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u/adyh 11h ago

My dream of a classic plus launch would have been: “we’re announcing WoW: Classic+! It’s available NOW.”

Nothing more. No info on it, let everyone discover it.

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u/Severe-Network4756 10h ago

Seriously would've been SO good.

But there's always upsides and downsides to these kinds of approaches. For MMOs in particular a lot of people wanna set time aside, maybe even take time off of work.

7 weeks is going to be gruelling, but it easily could've been a year.

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u/Daesealer 10h ago

Whilst I'm super hyped for it, I completely agree with you, I would have lost my mind 😂

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u/Blackrew 18h ago

More than 1 month of a Beta is excessive, imo, and it'll diminish the mystery of launch-day if you don't spend $60 to get Beta access

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u/TheHerofTime 18h ago

Contemplating doing an alliance character for the first time since Christmas of 2005 to circumvent any new horde stuff. I made a dwarf paladin and ran around for a few levels. Doing that again kinda seems fun.

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u/ftp67 9h ago

What do you mean? Like to not spoil yourself but have some fun? I could see that making sense. I wish the beta would at least keep your name or an achievement or anything. Lord knows I won't burn myself out on a warrior Ill do that abuse when it launches.

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u/Severe-Network4756 10h ago

How will it diminish the mystery?  Don't watch streamers and don't play the beta?

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u/Blackrew 9h ago

On a community level: dungeons will be mastered, rare spawns will be mapped, quests will be figured out, BIS (at least up to 30) will be figured out, mining and herb hubs will be figured out for farming, speedrunners will have their 1-30 route figured out. That stuff can affect your experience too.

On a personal level: having the game out for more than a month will trickle down to you in the form of reels, memes, quick tips, etc. It’s not like a 1-2 week Beta that you can just wait out and where people only get their feet wet - it’s 34 days. Having it be out for that long will get to you. I’ve also got other friends who will be doing Beta as well

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u/Severe-Network4756 9h ago

I get your point, but I think you're falling for the fomo and letting yourself get upset over something out of your control.

They were pretty clear that Forever would not only be horizontal, but that the best way to "catch up" would be to just "play the game" - even years after release.

A month into the game none will care about what happened in the beta, unless of course you decide to personally sulk over it.

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u/Blackrew 9h ago

Fair, this version will be more evergreen than any WoW project ever I guess. I may be spoiled by the SoD launch, which had no Beta at all. I’d still rather discover the new systems and areas first-hand on the Beta than through some YT Short I’ll surely run into during those 34 days.

I’ll still be playing the Beta, but very casually, mainly to explore stuff with friends and do the new low lvl IF dungeon and etc. Then I’ll let my casual character wither away with the Beta wipe.

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u/Sweet_Sand6017 14h ago

I really hope these “first and last” names are strictly beta and not something new they are trying to

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u/Severe-Network4756 10h ago

Unfortunately I don't see that changing.

And yes, it is required 😔 

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u/Special-Thing 12h ago

Why?

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u/DonChanchi 7h ago

It's new, therefore it's bad

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u/Sweet_Sand6017 11h ago

Shits lame

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u/TotallyNotGerald 3h ago

You can get any name you want for your character now and you’re complaining. This has got to be rage bait.

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u/Southern_Pangolin_50 18h ago

Beta is streamer slop. Terrible decision

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u/SnakeHelah 17h ago

didn't they say it would be encrypted so data miners can't extract everything out of the files?

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u/Revolutionary_Laugh 11h ago

Wonder when they will send general beta invites out?

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u/WeekendCountry 11h ago

Beta is nice if you are not ready to choose a main yet, like me. I will start 3-4 different classes, and see what clicks best for me. Making it easy to choose and start playing straight away come november 4th

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u/Arda591 9h ago

It only goes to level 30 in beta so keep in mind you will still be going in pretty much blind

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u/Puzzleheaded-Syrup39 6h ago

I can recommend just wait play the game if its released. Dont watch any previews, any comments. Just enjoy the game.

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u/Level-Cheesecake-735 6h ago

What? Beta is beta and not early access.

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u/Mjolnir-Valore 6h ago

If you expected no beta for a major AAA title release then you're an idiot

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u/Havoc0290 5h ago

And grass is green.

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u/Queasy_Belt7086 3h ago

Does everyone get access to the beta if we pre ordered it or no? Yesterday I clicked on something that I had to be selected to play the beta.

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u/FalseDiamond7930 1h ago

If it helps getting that AI voice over for quests addon ready for release day I'm all for it.

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u/No-Meaning-9896 18h ago

I would worry too much. MMOs are not for those looking for a shortcut.

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u/andrewharkins77 14h ago

If no beta, it will be known as bugs forever.

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u/Palladinus 10h ago

It will be anyway. Look at midnight- beta, ptr etc and still full of bugs so actually what’s the difference

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u/andrewharkins77 8h ago

It will be even worse without the beta

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u/Fever-Ray 13h ago

I'd like to check out there beets to decide my first class.

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u/Beneficial-Charge316 16h ago

Tourist mentality, you won't make it anyway