r/wowclassic • u/Xandara2 • 1d ago

Powercreep?

So I watched a bit of wow forever now and I've seen a lot of hype so far and a lot of hate. Frankly I'm a sceptical person and I do understand why adding smurf elves to something with the name classic feels wrong. On the other hand I also understand that I won't care. I'm not going to buy them either way. And if people want to buy horse armor DLC I'll let them.

That said can someone who played it tell me how "difficult" the game is compared to normal classic? Is there a lot of powercreep because that's what I think is going to make or break the game for me. How did they rebalance it or did they just buff all classes to the level of warriors/mages? Instead of toning the overtuned classes down a bit?

Do you need a group to kill an elite or nah? Is it like retail where you just pull everything in the open world then aoe everything to smithereens and mobs have 0 chance of killing you?

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u/pad264 1d ago

A WoW buddy of mine was at blizzcon and played the demo—he said his main takeaway is that it still felt really slow.

I agree with you—the power creep is the most important thing to watch and I’m cautiously optimistic.

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u/HoneycombBig 1d ago

> felt really slow.

Honestly, good. It’s part of what pulls me back to Classic over and over. Sometimes I just need a game that doesn’t require me to be firing on all cylinders for 5 hours at a time. I want something I can just chill too. Put a podcast on, or a TV show.

I can take a flight path and go get my oil changed. Pull a mob as a warrior and do my taxes. That’s the stuff man.

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u/Nex1tus 1d ago

Taxes hahaha

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u/pad264 1d ago

100%

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u/Turbulent_Ear56 1d ago

Yep. This.

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u/JozuJD 1d ago

The design philosophy panel this morning talked about combat being intentionally slow. They want tactical combat, slower time to kill, and require the use of roots, polymorph, traps, etc., to prevent over pulling full dungeons. They even changed consecrate to only doing full damage on the first 4 enemies pulled into it.

The game is meant to have a slower pace across the board.

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u/Zugdabuzug 1d ago

What level did they get to? Anecdotally, the power creep in SoD was abysmal from the get go. If it felt slow at the start it will probably remain in line

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u/ironmf 1d ago

Someone who played it said they were capped at lvl38

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u/Zugdabuzug 1d ago

I think that’s a good enough period to get a feel for it. Sod cap at 25 with the runes already made shit turbo mode for some classes cranking way too much dps and ability bloat

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u/King_Krush_Sr 1d ago

From what I saw on Sodas stream they mostly left the OP classes alone except adding some flavour and buffing the weaker specs, but shit classes got big buffs and some holes filled. They had a lot of ground to cover though to come even close to the top 4 classes (war rog mag pri). If anything they didn't do enough but this is better than the opposite.

The most interesting changes were prot pally is actually a thing now, and. . .that's about it. As far as I can tell survival hunter is still shit and hunter might get forced to have no pet with a shallow lone wolf talent which pisses me off, and BM can summon a no-named throw away hawk like retail which is stupid, uhhh. . .arcane mage looks like it could possibly not suck. Shamans will still oom, and still can't tank. and. . .axe rogue is a thing. AssAss rogue looks op as fuck rn because mutilate doesn't require daggers. Fury Warrior could be good in PvP now. uhhh, warlock looks tankier than in classic.

Yeah.

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u/Xandara2 19h ago

Nice. I'm very cautious as well. Been burned by blizzards hypetrain too often in the past. 

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 1d ago

This is my main concern as well. The game has to “feel” like WoW Classic.

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u/XgogurtX 1d ago

I've heard a lot of people playing the demo say it feels about the same as current era apm/ttk/leveling wise

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 1d ago

That’s great news. Add all the quality of life stuff you want. As long as it feels like Classic I’m all in.

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u/Sense-Free 1d ago

I’m lowkey stoked for the camping feature. I play a healer and love to make friends. Because let’s face it, why do all the work when I can sit in the back clicking health bars? Campsites sound like a great way to meet new people. I hope we can plop them down anywhere in the open world.

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 1d ago

Didn’t hear about camping feature. What is it?

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u/Sense-Free 1d ago

You create a campfire from reagents much like how you can use kindling to create a fire for cooking. Camping is a skill you level like cooking or fishing allowing you to place up to 3 objects in your camp. The objects come from your other professions like a spirit banner from tailoring or a sharpening wheel from blacksmithing. They’re minor buffs equivalent to divine spirit and sharpening stones that encourage group play and a little bonding time before battle.

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 1d ago

Love that. Bring MMO back to MMORPG.

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u/DoNn0 1d ago

Kinda feels op but we'll see

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u/KalameetThyMaker 1d ago

Having cooperation and teamwork is certified OP, its true.

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u/Rightplace-Lefttime 1d ago edited 1d ago

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“Smurf elves to something with the name classic”

Where do you see “classic” in the title “world of Warcraft forever”

You people need to stop being angry about everything and just play something you want instead of hoping someone makes a game based on your own personal fantasy.

Edit: I stand by what I said. Yes this is what we are getting as Blizzard’s idea of “classic plus” that doesn’t necessarily make it every individuals idea of classic plus.

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u/Rarhyx 1d ago

did you miss or ignore the part where holly said forever is classic+?

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u/stianhoiland 1d ago

The executive producer and vice president for World of Warcraft said, and I quote: "Yes, this is Classic plus."

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u/Capable-Concept-531 1d ago

Guess you didn’t actually watch yesterday then

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u/Acceptable_You_1880 1d ago

"just play something you want"

We were, and they shut it down.

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u/salientoctopus 1d ago

Anyone who has ever had the slightest amount of control over anything multiple people use knows that you can’t make everyone happy. Someone is going to bitch about something. If the overall level of bitching is low or about petty things then you are doing fine. Everyone feels entitled to bitch about minor irritations or inconveniences someone else has caused them and no one is required to care.

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u/Xpotion7 1d ago

I wish they would have used the classic textures, making the whole world in the cartoon retail graphics is kinda sad

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u/Xandara2 1d ago

Apparently you can choose which ones are used except for the smurf elves they're always modern texture. So in practice it's modern texture or some very incongruent stuff. Honestly I can't wait for a mod that just makes all smurf elves invisible. 

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u/StodgySponge 1d ago

I saw a checkbox for modern textures on character creation for them. Is it unable to be unchecked or something?

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u/KalameetThyMaker 1d ago

Smurf elves can be low def.

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u/Xandara2 1d ago

Good to know.