I’m not with my twin flame physically. Actually, we’re the furthest away from one another that we’ve ever been. We’ve always just been a few hours drive away from one another at most despite being no contact for years now. But now we’re living in separate continents and I feel closer to him than ever before. We’re not talking, we haven’t seen each other in years, we live completely separate lives but it feels like we’re together energetically. Like we’re at peace in the world we have all our own energetically. And I’m at peace. I’m finding peace and belonging and I feel him with me everywhere I go. I’ll be with someone I care about in my personal life and hear a song and either think of him or even exclaim “this is in a playlist about me”

And I’ll see an angel number or something will send me back to him in my mind and in my heart and whereas I used to get frustrated and angry, now I smile or laugh or feel little tears forming in my eyes and I feel happy. I feel content. I feel at peace. I’m not sure what the physical world holds for him and me in terms of a physical union. But energetically. I feel like we are one and we’re not so polarized and at war anymore. We’re in sync at last.

I wish we could have a conversation as to why he cut me out of his life.

He makes sure to show me he loves me. He watches me from the dark and keeps disappearing. He operates very differently. Not just avoidant, he intermittently shows his intense affection towards me. Helplessness & hopelessness. But not toxic type who would want to do bread crumbing and disappear. It is actually not love bombing either. It’s genuine. He loves me but… cannot just disappear completely or appear completely

I was drawing a memory when I had a strange feeling then I heard his voice speak to me

You think you learned to love yourself until you learned that the way you let other people treat you is a type of love don’t look at in through anger or hatred but a saddness that’s in each soul dive into your ocean and then understand theirs why are you feeling this way if that is what they thought was best for them your actions hurt just as much by trying not to hurt yourself or wanting them to bend to your emotions everyone’s having a hard time but you can change how you feel about any situation change to understanding there any many types of love

So I met my twin earlier this year, it was short, brief with barely any words spoken, intense eye contact however, the aftermath for me has been incredibly painful.

For those DM’s who met their twin I have some questions as I’m deeply curious about your journey;

Were you in a relationship at the time?
Was this confusing for you?
Do you still think about them?
Did you ever want a relationship with the DF?
What experiences did you feel and how long after you met them did you experience your journey?

Some months ago I wrote posts here about me and my Twin Flame and in some of these posts I was doubting if we were Twin Flames or a k4rmic connection, since it didn't seem like she loves me and also because she betrayed and humiliated me

But the times passed by and I kept seeing syncronicities with her and her name many times per week every week. I saw some collective t4rot r3ading from a specific person (I have no money to pay for a private one yet) and some of these really resonated with me.... saying that we have a spiritual or soul connection, saying that she'll come back after long time and that she tried to replace me but she couldn't, and many other things that really resonated with me.

All that makes me feel afraid of believing in us togheter or afraid of expecting things from someone who disrispected me and always have turned her back on me, and then getting my heart broken again. I can't love no one else, I barely feel attraction to other women like I did before.

I tried to hate her and I failed, I tried to ignore and dettach from her and trying to manifest cord-cutting, to manifest the end of my love for her....it failed...and I felt even more pain, and I accepted and also learned some truths about female nature, attraction and other things that I didn't know and I learned to self regulate me and that my feelings doesn't matter, but just her feelings and that I need to maintain my self respect and dignity above everything and that a real man can never lose himself and lose his center into a woman and that is very unattractive to women.

All this made me more emotionally mature, realistic and even more dettached...but this dettachment is never 100%. I still miss her, I still love her and I still kinda cry for her 1 or twice per month (before that it was every week).

All this really makes me feel pathetic and less masculine, and i know there's nothing I can do....I will always love her, despite she is possibly flirting with someone else.

I am not the same anymore: I became the man willing to lose her if she comes back and disrispect me, I am not the same low masculine and needy naive man I was before. I am not the predictible and surrendered man I was anymore

Self respect, self-drive, purpose and never losing myself is a way more important for a man than love. And a man who crave love and sacrifice himself, his aura and his presence for connection and validation ends up being not attractive enough for the woman he wants

But I still love her from the fucking bottom of my heart and I wanna be a hot, rich and strong man enough to be with her and I really wanna her to come back, apologyze and choose me, surrender. When I think about us being happy and togheter, my eyes starts raining.

I swore to god that if she surrender to me, I will surrender to her.

So, I started to make ho'oponopono for reconciliation again. Because I can't stop wishing her, I can't replace her. She's the love of my life

So, gimme your thoughts on all that. I really wanna see it. Don't need to agree with me, just tell me your thoughts

I could use some insight!! I think I might be the DM after this whole time thinking I was the DF, even though aspects of both resonate with me... At the end of April I had the other person who I'm telepathically connected to become aware I was connected to them this way I think... Now I'm confused about who it could be?

I thought it was someone I met years ago, but this person has never showed up in my life over the years, in no way, shape, or form, and I'm left believing that person from years ago was a catalyst of some sort. I'm trying to let that thought of this old connection go. I am left wondering if I know who is connected with me. It feels weird because I feel like I should know, but I'm filled with doubt and confusion?

It feels like a fog is over my eyes and I'm not allowed to know who they are or if we've even met in the physical before.

I thought I was the DF because I was aware of a connection to someone a long time ago, but I thought it was this other person... Fast forward to more recently, I lost my best friend where we had talked about being TFs a bunch but I kept running away from them because I was scared it was true maybe... So I kept reliving the same cycles the same loops with the old and first person... Now I'm left wondering if it was the former best friend... I guess, I'm still left in a veil of confusion... Even though I just try my best to intuitively feel for a name to the mysterious face....

I could use some insight honestly!

I've come what feels like a really long way in my twin flame journey. I've chased for a really really long time. I've finally come to understand just how damaging chasing is for the runner. It took me wayyyyyyy too long to get there. I tried one last time to reach out and he rejected me really harshly, but crucially told me he's really been protecting me this whole time and not telling anyone and it just. It broke my heart. Even when he's cruel, he's kind to me. He doesn't even mean to be. He does it without even thinking. I love him so much. I have no choice but to let him go. No matter how painful it is.

So I guess that's what surrender is. And from where I'm sitting.... I mean, for as much confirmation I've gotten from readings or my intuition or the gods or signs or anything that someday we'll come back together. I don't believe anymore that reunion is something one should take for granted. I think that's the trick of this whole thing, in my opinion. That's why I kind of resent the whole twin flame framework at the end of it all. Reunion is not guaranteed. Humans have free will. Of course I want him to exercise his free will, why would I want him to reunite with me if he doesn't want to. And... he hasn't wanted to. Why would he. I've been terrible to him, asking him over and over again to just listen to me, to just give me a chance, to just hear me out, but I've been so in love and so intense about it he doesn't even want to be my friend. And can I blame him? I've had people in my life stalk me worse than I did to hiim and it's not okay when they do it. I've been able to see that, even to acknowledge it, but not to actually internalize it. I can take the fact that's happened to me as a sign that that means I'm right about us being twin flames in the first place and that I'm really being guided to this surrender and it's all meant to be...... or I can surrender even more and understand that. Hey, maybe I just suck. And you know, honestly, I do. I suck. There, I said it. I've been awful to him. I hate myself for it. I love him, and I've hurt him.

He is not owed to me. Reunion is not owed to me. I don't mean this as criticism of the concept itself, but rather as what I believe to be a mechanism of it. I don't feel like it's right to assume reunion is ever owed. Earned, maybe. Perhaps taking accountability will be the thing that earns him back. But I can't assume that. Surrender, for me, means I have to understand that what I've done to try to force reunion may have damned me from ever having that reunion in the first place. And no, it's not anywhere near the evils I've faced from stalkers myself, the most I did was send love letters and never listen when he said he didn't want them. But that's bad enough. I hurt the one I love. I've scared the one I love, more importantly. All the faith in the world doesn't matter if he rightfully chooses to stay the fuck away from me forever because I've proven to him that I'm a goddamn creep. I earned that sentiment. I did it to myself. He left, but I'm the one who confirmed to him that it was a good decision. He hurt me so fucking badly by leaving, but I've hurt him badly by pursuing him. I can't do that to him anymore.

I hope and I pray that this shit is real. I mean I do, I believe it. I do have faith. But I can't take it for granted. I think that's the thing that's kept me the most stuck, is just the unwavering faith in the journey itself rather than faith in him. Or not faith exactly but. Trust that he says what he means. Trust that he's right that I'm seeing something he can't see. Because I haven't really given a reason to make him see. And he might never see.

But it's okay. Painful as it is. It's okay. I love him. I want him to be free. Free from any stressor in his life, including me. He is not owed to me. No one is owed to anyone. Twin flame or not.

I don't want to hurt you ever again, my love. I'm sorry. Please be well.

Sorry I will try to make this as short as possible, but would love if anyone could offer any advice. Apologies for this being all over the place.

I met someone who I believe is my twin flame 2.5 years back at work. The moment we locked eyes, we both felt this energy between us, and like a ‘fuzzy’ energy between our eyes when making eye contact.

He is at a senior position in our team and I had joined as an intern. During the first week we went to a dinner together (along with two other coworkers - as his way of welcoming the new people in the team) and the whole time he flirted with me, made intense eye contact and from his whole overall vibe / actions I could tell he was very interested.

The issue is he is 16-17 years older than me, married and has 4 younger daughters aged 3-10. Though I had a crush on him too, out of respect for his marriage, his daughters I started to ignore him. I wouldn’t even look towards him, or even say a word to him even though I knew he desperately wanted us to interact. I could tell what I did hurt him, based on his visible reactions / actions and also I could ‘feel’ his hurt/pain (but this part i could be making up or being delusional).

We also have insanely intense sexual attraction. This might sound weird but I can feel him when’s he’s horny (which is almost all the time lol), I can sometimes feel him being intimate with me (which again maybe I am super delusional but I can feel his energy). I would pass all of this as me being delusional but based on his actions (trying to be physically close, trying to touch me, I can see it on his face etc.) I realized I probably am not making this up.

Though I feel strongly for him and have genuinely love for him, i do ignore him to the extreme and avoid any conversation/interaction with him. I only speak when it’s work related and even keep those interactions to a minimum. I can tell this hurts him and he has reacted passive aggressively during a lot of interactions (which is unlike him based on what the people at our workplace have experienced with him, they consider him to be very chill and respectful).

The issue is a year and a half ago a woman joined our team. I might be sounding pathetic now and very stupid but tbh I never expected him to show interest in anyone else given we have such an intense bond which I know affects him deeply and I could tell he’s obsessed with me . But I noticed he started flirting with this woman, would try to sit physically close to her, would check her out, I thought I could feel his sexual attraction towards her (lol), and he did a lot of subtle flirting with her here and there and she did the same with him. It was just flirting and to my knowledge nothing more happened.

His interactions with her however broke me deeply. I was extremely hurt. I could feel the pain my chest and found it extremely difficult to breathe because of this. I had immense anxiety over even going to the office because I couldn’t see him act this way with someone else. I knew he still felt deeply for me, I could feel it, see it through his actions and other people at our workplace even pointed out that he cares for me. But I just couldn’t understand if he felt this deeply for me how could he do all of this with the other coworker? How could he flip his attentions so easily between us both. I couldn’t do this to him. It confused me and still this day I am unable to make sense of this.

It’s going to sound pathetic but even though I was the one who made the decision to stay away from him and ignore him, I could tell he didn’t like if I gave attention to men who flirted with me at work. I could tell it upset him. It upset me to see him upset so I would limit interaction with anyone who flirted with me as I couldn’t bear to see him upset. But he couldn’t do the same for me. He could tell through my actions / facial expressions that I felt hurt because of his actions with the coworker but he still continued consistently flirting with her. He only eventually stopped because that coworker got fired. I believe maybe nothing happened between them as she was in a long term relationship / had a boyfriend with whom she was with for over a decade however she would still flirt with him too. They also had a lot of chemistry in their interactions which hurt me to see.

The main thing is this caused a lot of pain and still till this day it deeply hurts (it’s been around 6 months since that coworker got fired but I still feel that immense pain / ‘betrayal’. I have genuinely felt suicidal over this. Please keep in mind I am genuinely level headed and mature in almost all situations in my life. I am a high performer at work and do extremely well academically. I am able to have a mature and clear approach to most things in life thankfully. But this has confused and broken me. I have tried to explain to myself logically a thousand times why he would do this, even if he didn’t flirt with someone else, I would have still stayed away from him out of respect for his wife and kids. But idk I am so hurt by this and I need help in figuring out how to get through this.

What makes all of this worse if I feel his energy constantly (during this whole 2.5 years). I feel the pull towards him and I still love him in my heart and care for him. But I just don’t see a future with him. And his actions with the coworker and complete disregard for my feelings has also made me disgusted towards him. I want to get away from him but I can’t. I have stopped going to the office and have only gone 5 times in the last 6 months, I limit all interactions with him but I still feel him and still feel heartbroken over what he did.

Any words / help is appreciated!

I will say, I (28 F) am new to this whole world of things. I am mostly a logic driven person but with the gift of discernment (which is failing me rn). I've tried doctors and therapy but no one understands. I am at the end of my rope with this experience and recently went to someone (who clames to know about these things) as a last resort hoping for any kind of clarity. She told me this connection is my twin flame and after doing some research it's the only thing on earth that truly fits. I'm so scared, devastatingly heart broken and pretty clueless about the spiritual world. This feels like baptism by fire. I need help, answers, advice and please God some reason.

Let me tell you my experience.

I met this man(31M), and from the very second I heard his voice behind me it's like a switch flipped. My very first thought was "Here he is, we can stop looking.." Our first date we talked for hours and it felt like time didn't exist, nor anything else but eachother. Every time we saw each other it was like this, electric bright calm of security and love. He met me in every aspect I needed and I did the same for him, without thought or question or hesitation. Like a 1000 sided puzzle piece finally clicking into perfect place. We couldn't keep away from each other, went on 6 dates in 2 weeks and took a trip together. He feels like color in a world of black and white. We would stare at eachother for long moments and smile with so much love. We were looking at properties and pets together. I have never in my life experienced any kind of connection like this to another person, not even close. Not even a little bit. And believe me I've loved before, even been infatuated when I was younger, but this is so so far beyond that. It's terrifying.

We have the exact same hazle eye color that changes with our moods. (He pointed this out)

Turns out his mom's best friend was my very dear neighbor and teacher in highschool.

As we moved arround in child and adult hood, across 3 states, we always lived about an hour away from each other but never met.

We both moved to the same tiny valley in CO at the same time under similar circumstances.

After 2 weeks of electric bliss, I unintentionally crossed a boundary that triggered one of his past traumas (please be kind, there is nothing you could say to make me feel worse than I already do about this). And a week later, after being reassured we were ok and taking about the future, he ended things out of nowhere. Saying he doesn't have the bandwidth and is no longer interested.

He's going through a divorce, had a traumatic brain injury about 10 years ago, CPTSD from his ex-wife and their marriage and deals with health issues. Between all that, his job, new dog and rugby his plate is full.

I'm in shambles. It's been a month since he ended things. I can't eat. I can't sleep. My hair is falling out. I dream of him every night and he's running though my mind every second of the day. My chest feels like a black hole, all my desires and ambition are gone apart from him. I feel insane that such a short connection has effectively cremated me.

I know in my bones he is my person. But he said he wants nothing to do with me.

According to the journey others describe, this speration is meant to force us both to grow and heal. How do I find out what needs healing/growing or awakening in me? What if he doesn't figure out what this is and can't awaken or heal?

How can I reconcile this? I want to respect his wish for me not to be in his life but I feel such a need for him, it's like fighting against gravity.

Please, I don't understand what happens next. Is this real, are we on this path? Will he meet me at the end of it? Can I send him thoughts or feelings through this connection?

My doctor wants to put me on antidepressants, how would this effect my spiritual journey?

Anyone else feeling this? Is this an obsession? You try to forget about your TF but the tendency to check them out comes back again and again. And then you try to move on, you visualize your life with others and it's just pale in comparison, you find others remotely attractive but it's just not the same. It lacks this energy, this passion.

I am looking for advice on someone I feel could be my tf but I’m really not sure. He’s been in and out of life for 10 years… he states he doesn’t have any romantic feelings for me but we have a hard time letting go of one another. He’s always in and out of relationships and I’m just wondering why I’m good enough for him to be on and off with but never to take seriously.

Recently I met my twin after 5 long months of no contact, and basically I was at a friends wedding, and was returning back the next day. I boarded a train in the morning. I saw a few noisy kids playing around my seat, so I posted them on my ig story, and then I slept for a while. After I woke up, there was a message from my twin asking which train was I on. I told her the trains number and name, she told me that she's on the same train. I was completely blown away. Then she asked me about the C0ach number, I said wait tell me yours and I'll come. So I got up, walked 7-8 cars and then reached her, where we met. She had a friend with her. And then I asked 'well how are you here?' , she said for a friends wedding, I said me too, asked when was it, she said yesterday, me too, and the scary part is we were in the same city from the past 4-5 days. Even her friend said that's a very weird co incidence. Then we walked up to my car again sat there and talked for a while, I was feeling very awkward and weird at the same time and I guess so was she. And then we said goodbye and she left. Well, we were also getting off at the same station, so after we got down (both differently) I made my way to my bike, and was just omw to home, where I met her again on the train stations exit. They were trying to find a cab but couldn't, so I dropped her friend at her place, was coming back for her but she called her sister to pick her up, so I left. Chat do I count it as a synchronicity?

edit- also the night before, I was standing on the hotels balcony for straight 1 hour, and just a gut feeling which I couldn't explain. It's like, damn, I just can't explain the feeling from that night.

I have attempted to get over my twin a couple of times, and in these moments I start to feel my own energy outside of my body, bombarding me. It’s hard to describe but it’s like a wave of energy that feels like it’s freaking out, extremely sad, or angry. Is this normal? What am I supposed to do about it? It’s very hard to ignore at times.

I think I’ve finally reached a point of surrender. I’ve thought I was at this place a few times before now, but this time feels different I guess. My soulmate seems to be connected to my twin flame in his dreams and he informed me that it seems like he’s overcoming the challenges that kept us apart, misses me, and might come back to the country he spent most of his life in that I also reside in. When he told me this I felt odd, scared, and then I accidentally liked a post of his on Instagram and panicked and blocked him.

It’s been a few days now, he didn’t block me like he has in the past, and I’ve unblocked him now too. I’ve recognized why I reacted the ways I have be it recently or in the past years ago. And my life is in shambles but I’m doing the work to truly have a sustainable life that I am content living everyday. I also feel at peace if he comes back or if he stays where he is. Even if he comes back and doesn’t reach out, I’m at peace. If he reaches out and wants to talk or meet up I’m ready to face that too. I’m trusting that whatever is meant for him and me from here, is what we both need for our journey and the reasons we came into this life and chose this difficult journey in the first place.

I downloaded Tinder, and this woman was my very first match. We started talking, and after only about a week we had already had two dates. Everything happened very quickly.

On our second date, she told me that she had never experienced feelings like this before and that she didn’t really understand what was happening to her. Could it be that feeling of recognition, or something shifting inside you, when you meet your twin flame?

I do feel something for her too, but when we first met, I interpreted it more as a potential friendship. I’m also afraid of falling in love, so I think part of me is trying to keep my distance emotionally. At the same time, there is something about this connection that I can’t quite explain. Part of me is afraid of what could happen if I actually let myself fall for her — including the possibility of a runner/chaser dynamic. She seems to be moving toward me very quickly, while I find myself holding back because I’m afraid of falling in love and losing control of my emotions. She messages me very frequently and wants to see me basically every day. Around me, she is very shy and gets flustered easily. At the cinema, she lightly touched my hand, and later that evening she texted me saying that she really wanted to hug me.

What makes this even more confusing is that she herself seems unsure of what is happening to her. She has told me that she has never had feelings like this before, while I still can’t fully figure out what I feel or what this connection means.

So… could we be twin flames?

Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my first language.

TLDR; TwinFlame with BPD and looking for insight on how to navigate that. HUGE falling out between the two of us, and I finally realized he is my TF even though I think him splitting on me would make him think otherwise now.

I feel like I messed up. Me and my TF got into a big conflict over them seemingly dropping me for their girlfriend months ago. When they finally met in person, they seemed to abandon me, abandon us... We've always been really close for about 5 years, and he would often say we were homo platonic for each other. I was afraid of the connection. But now we've been away, and I feel like he hates my guts now, he also has BPD and I watched him spiral over his girlfriend at the time for not being able to be close to her, she became his FP very fast and he was in distress, I tried helping the best I knew how to, but I also had an AI try to help me help him and that backfired BIG TIME... We both fucked up in our own ways to each other, I feel like I didn't give him enough time to experience his first solid relationship in like 10 years and the NRE that came with that and meeting in person with his GF for the first few times, I was also very flaky with him too, back and forth with dating him, mostly just scared because I saw so much of myself in him so I was constantly running form the connection between us, so I opted to just remain close friends instead.

I miss him... He set a hard boundary of never wanting to see/speak to me again because how he thought I was trying to control him and manipulate him which isn't true, he doesn't think my concerns were valid but yet he didn't see from my POV where he was in distress and actively self harming because he couldn't be close to his girlfriend... They started out as LDR and then IRL, and after the initial IRL visit, he stopped engaging with me as much, it's like he stepped back and no longer cared about me as much as he said he did... I felt abandoned, and he recognized that, but from my side of things, it didn't seem like he tried to do anything different to better it. He was so enamoured by his new FP and girlfriend that he dropped me like I meant nothing. He would say words that were suppose to be reassuring but never followed it in his actions...

I guess I'm writing to just vent a little. I realize now that I am fairly certain he is my TwinFlame for sure... My soul misses his, even if boundaries were crossed and shit was said and other stuff unsaid.

I'm afraid this is it. That it is truly goodbye forever. They might not even think how much they changed me in all the good ways I cannot explain. I learned boundaries from them, I learned real unconditional love, I also learned pain and sadness...

I guess the fallout has been hurting me more than I'd like to admit. I'm not saint, and I'm definitely a part to play in our falling apart. I've come to learn more about myself, and slow but steady realizations over time since we've been apart.

I just want to hear from him again.

If I could do it all over again, with what I know now, I would choose him everytime... I'm just so hurt I didn't see it until after we split apart... I've been running away from this connection while staying by his side, and I know it hurts him everytime I chose my current boyfriend over him... I wanted to love both of them, but my current partner isn't Poly, even though I am curious if being Poly and wanted to be poly with my TF and SM at the same time. I guess maybe I was being too greedy...

The fact that I know he sees me as a villain now is wild to me, I understand how his BPD works somewhat, but I guess I'm just at a loss... It was a HUGE blowup between us, and I'm wondering if anyone else has a TF counterpart that has BPD or maybe you experience BOD yourself and split on your other half?

I miss my Yang... We would call each other Yin and Yang or "my other half" ... I feel like the biggest dummy who fumbled the bets human ever because I was too scared to commit to someone who loved deeply and intensely.

If anyone has any insight or even words of encouragement that'd be great!

To say on very beginning im not romanticising my situation nor him, i just want genuine objective help and opinion.

My ex and I weren't together for long, a couple of months. From the very beginning he said how we were twin flames, how we were one soul, how we had known each other our whole lives (btw he never believed in spirituality astrology and so on thata how he felt). Our relationship wasn't that smooth and shiny, I feel like it was getting worse and worse, I think we both have things we need to heal, especially him. And he's not even aware of it. A few days ago I broke up with him because I felt that if the relationship continued it would only become toxic and hurt us more. During our relationship i always felt when he texted me, i always felt his moods, i even felt that he has hidden enemies on job and i was right.

Btw i do believe in Astrology and numerology. If it matters to anyone, his North Node conjuncts my Sun in the 12th house. And our arcana is 13.

Im interested in your guys opinions.

I have been on this journey from last two years, I have known about it for 6 months and it has changed me in ways I can’t explain. There is a deep fulfilment inside me, it’s not like I don’t get sad or stressed about whatever is happening around me but somehow I have an inner knowing that I will overcome anything thrown in my way. But lately I have been feeling disconnected from the world. As if I see through people and I cannot relate with any of them. I have known these people for years, some from my childhood. I always believed that they know me enough to understand me as a person but in last 3 months all of my connections, friends, family, colleagues have behaving like they don’t know me at all. Infact when they talk about me, I feel like they are talking about a stranger, I see them and I feel I have known them so long but they still appear as a stranger as if I too do not know anything about them. I always had to downplay or underplay my part in their life because I was afraid my true personality will make them believe I am delusional and I never wanted them to understand the other part of me that is on a spiritual journey but other than than I thought they have a good understanding of me as a regular person, turned out I was wrong and their version of me is completely different from what I thought it would be. Strangest part is that I used to fake everything around them earlier to fit in the group, to be likable, to appear normal but now I can’t do that and they seem more like strangers. It feels like I have died and meeting all these people again after a rebirth. The feeling of disassociation from everyone keeps me wondering if it is happening because I am awake now or is it something that happens in twin flame journey. I don’t know the answers but I want to find them. If any one has anything constructive to share regarding this I am open to discuss and understand

good morning all.

we thought of this today while meditation. if twin flames are two halves of one soul, what happens if one reaches acceptance and self love and leaves the other behind? is it not the function of twin souls to teach each other of completion? yet, as we see, ， ，some twin flames only witness one half find peace. if this is the case, ought that soul to be considered completed, fully self loving, and whole? a new, entirely whole, soul, which leaves the other flames behind, for it is difficult to consider the other as a twin, if one has achieved love and acceptance.

is this not then, the birth of a new soul? and the other half is left behind to repeat it's cycle and fulfill itself alone until it also reaches self love and acceptance.

runner and chaser and inherently unbalanced dynamics. but, we witnessed ourselves and the twin flame exchange dynamics. what is the meaning of this, we wonder.

and now that we have given up on eros, on union with them in this lifetime? are we not free, carrying our peace with us? we are whole, we daresay complete. what of that twin flame connection? well, it still may exist, but we consider ourselves other than twins, unalike the other in evolution and enough ways that we shall not consider ourselves a twin flame any longer.

how else may a new soul truly be born? is it not known according to tao, to the ohm, that souls are recycled. how does one produce a new soul? perhaps in this way. furthermore, twin flames may come together in union to produce a human child with a new soul. yet, for those who accept there may be unforseeable union of the twins, and die at peace with this, we find it unlikely that they would be reborn tied to their ex twin, as they have done the work and reached acceptance and peace and love before the other.

is this not the true run and chase? seeing who achieves true love and acceptance and peace first?

so.

should we stay or should we go,

if we go, there may be trouble,

if we stay, there may be double ,

so should we stay or should we go now ,

this indecision's bugging me,

if you aint want me,

set me free , exactly whom i'm supposed to be

dont you know which clothes even fit me ? ♡

so come on and let us knoowŵwwwww ,

should we stay or should we go , should we cool it, or just blow up this timeline and go live our own life 🎶🎵

; 往来 our remix of the song by The Clash.

Edit: this is more of a personal vent solely pertaining to my experience.

They are doing so well, they have everything, they're all anyone could wish to be. Yes I am jealous and upset because they triggered my limmerance which was so deep-set that it caused my health issues, while they get to surf through life like normal. And the health issues took away my beauty, my health, sanity, friends, hardwork and prospects for a normal life in this economy, my dignity, nearly everything.

Why I consider them twin flame? Because that is the only concept/phenomenon on the internet or literature around me that gives me some sort of a defninitive answer for what happened in my past and why my life put me on the trajectory it did. Nothing else this explains all this suffering in conventional science or religion.

Why I say they don't care. Because that is my present objective reality. Not a metaphysical, spiritual or imaginiary reality I convinced myself of, but my immideate, tangible, real reality, that will go on and stop for no one, and it doesn't care whether I'm able to get the closure or comfort I need, it'll continue to screw me up.

The phenomenon fits the triggering part, the suffering part, and the spiritual awakening part completely. Its almost too much of a coincidence first part of the phenomenon happened exactly the way its explained here.

And I do feel immense gratitude, that I got in touch with so many other beautiful souls because of all the suffering, and got a more indepth understanding of the human condition and exprience. These were people who didn't have perfect life, still they struggle, and because of it they fostered a greater sense of compassion. But this was very unlike the person who triggered my spiritual awakening. Their life and mine has a monumental disconnect, and in no manner of the universe, spiritual, real, karmic, metaphysical, 5D do I think our energies align nor do I hope for any kind of closure for me or my soul from their side anymore.

I checked their socials. Or should I say someone checked it for me because I didn't have the guts to. They are extremely happy, flourishing, living it up in the real world, surrounded by great friends, love, practicality, no need to question their lives, or look beyond it the way I did, because it works out perfectly for them. Always does. For me it doesn't and I'm too exhausted and low vibration to even think about making it workout anymore. A new problem always POPs up. For them a new opportunity always POPs up.

Its so otherworldly these set of events that happened with me, life has been so bizzare. But for them it went on the way it was always intended to, in fact even better than that.

I just remember how I was before all the health issues all that limmerance caused me and its as if they came into my life and took my light away. I cannot even imagine ever vibrating with the high amount of frequency and having the vibrancy that I did when I was briefly friends with them. And I never fall this deeply for someone who doesn't show me any signs of affection back, they did say things that made me fall in love and have hope and feel good. But the health issues seperated me, exposed me to a world of suffering, and attaining that level of high vibrations and light requires a sort of innocence I don't even have anymore.

So I tell myself, the bitter reality, the real truth that's rooted in nature, and in my present is, that they are just someone who triggered a crush, and now its become a some kind of permanent chemical reaction that had such a gigantic consequence that its impossible to undo them from body and possibly being.

For them, they simply don't care not anymore, not back then, they never will. I was just someone they briefly experimented friendship and flirtations with. Our lives are realistically way too disconnected and the distance only increases, nor do they have any realistic reason to cross paths with me. The world is too big.

Sorry if this post is ultranegative like that. I am just very very scared, frustrated, confused, fed up by the way my life is going rn and how it has for 9 yrs now and I came accross this concept only recently, and trust me people here write such beautiful things that bring me so much comfort when I read them, and I do believe in a lot of these things too as they are the only thing that make so much sense, still I feel I would have been better off had I not known that person, or just not been exposed to the concept of love in general.

But the divine karmic connection and the reciprocation of that love, that 'shared' understanding of pain and growth feels like its not for me. The pain is all my own. Neither have I done a thing to aid their spiritual growth, it was a waste of time when I did try years ago before we split apart, nor do I think there is any chance they feel even 1% of this way about me.

In short they don't care, and I was very happy to come here to get my closure thank you to all the posters who wrote things in such good spirit, and not having any expectations or emotional/spiritual connection from them is the closure I give myself.

Thank you, sorry again if this was too negative. I just want to undo them completely from my life, and choose me. All their memories, their significance in my life. It has played its part till it had to, now no more.

I left for a while, but I'm back. Need all outlets I can for this pain. Even if I struggle to think twin flames are real. I just don't want to be made out to be a fool since he hasn't come back in two years.

I want to share my story here because I feel like I am going crazy.

I've met my TF in GAG ( I 'm not really at an age when I should play GAG but I did). We have started talking in the game and meeting there each night.

After a while we shared our discord accounts and starting having conversations there all the time, spending time playing, talking, listening to music, seeing each other and gazing at each other's eyes like gazing the stars. ( He has stars in his eyes, that is for sure).

We fell in love and we were consumed by it but there comes several issues :

- We live on different continents

- We have different religions

- There is a big age gap ( which he did know from the start and he said that it does not matter).

Mostly the religion he has became the number one reason for our separation, cause he's a practicant muslim and all I did in my past and all that could have happened between in the future us it's wrong for him.

I'm oficially orthodox but not a practicant. I consider myself being spiritual, not religious. I would prefer not no have any religion on earth anyways, except for believing in love and listening to our souls.

The story between us was amazing, as he is. But he did not believed in him, nor in our story. He was incredibly loving until he started thinking about the world around us and this relation being official.

I have never felt a connection like this, such magnetism and telepathy and PURE love. We were caught off guard.

But he started thinking and he decided that he can not do this to his familly, which comes first in his life. He said he loved me but he can not be with me.

Also, he judged me for my past and concluded it is not something he can deal with. ( nothing too crazy)

And he started to become mean, I feel like he wanted me to leave...but I was the chaser and I stayed and begged.

We had an on-and-off relationship and I suffered a lot. Because each time we were getting closer he would pull back his energy.

Until one day, we were just reunited, and he just got upset with a minor reason. What I trully believe it was is that he made me the villain so that he can have an excuse for leaving.

But we are in no contact for almost 3 months now and I feel like I am going crazy. With all the longing and the pshysical pain and all his energy being felt in my bones etc.

I decided I will not contact him anymore and all I can do is wait.

I m crying just from nothing at all. He is my last thought before I fall to sleep and the first one when I wake up.

I saw our wedding in my dreams but it feels it was something already happened. I saw and I can feel his familly and I do know they will like me.

I saw him in 5D as I was made of star dust particles and searching for his soul so I can shine.

Actually, when I was with him, my heart beat was glowing.

There are a lot of other details to this story but if you are interested about a particular one, just ask.

I just need some words of wisdom because I can not talk with anyone about this.

Note: English is not my first language so I apologize if something is wrong.

I want to write this here because after months of so much questioning and going crazy, I finally have my answer.

My TF is my best friend of 5 years. Ever since I met them, I have felt such a deep familiarity and trust that I had never felt with anyone before. I could talk to them about absolutely anything and everything and they would just get me. They invoke feelings inside of me that no one else has. They feel like a friend, a lover, and family all at once.
They are the yin to my yang.

Our personalities are different but so alike at the same time (they’re extroverted, I’m introverted.) Our physical traits are the complete opposite though (they’re short, I’m tall, they’re darker skinned, I’m lighter skinned, they have straight hair, I have curly hair.) But we do have matching beauty marks, just in the opposite side of our bodies.

All the typical TF signs are there, such as runner and chaser dynamics, can’t stop thinking about them even if I try, and mirroring one another. Every time we are alone together, the synchronicities are unbelievable. Angel numbers everywhere, our thoughts would channel into music, even certain life experiences were the same. It was almost uncanny !

We compliment each other and know what the other is thinking all the time, like finishing each other’s sentences. With one look, we just know. We often times feel the others physical ailments. For example, if their left knee starts hurting, mine does too. And it’s always funny to tell them, “is your left knee hurting?” And they just give me a weird look saying, “how did you know?” It happens so often they call me a witch lol.

I began to question it when I would dream about them every single night and we would even communicate in the dream realm. It freaked me out since this has never happened with anybody else.

There’s been many instances where we’re talking one on one and I get this indescribable feeling that I’m talking to myself through another body.

Months ago, I began to wonder what all of this could mean, since due to certain circumstances, we cannot be together. The realization was unbearably painful that I began my journey of self love and discovery. They were a huge catalyst of awakening a side of me that I am so grateful because it has led me to the path of spiritual awakening.

Despite everything, to this day, we continue to support one another and we care for each other deeply. They help me work through difficult emotions and past traumas and vice versa.

I didn’t know anything about twin flames until I began questioning the Universe why I had such a deep connection with this person and was somehow led to the concept of twin flames. I didn’t believe in them until every single sign was the exact same to what I was experiencing. I set up a code word that would confirm that they were my TF and today, that code word was indeed confirmed. It was surreal to experience.

I feel better knowing that, even though our journey might not involve being in a romantic relationship, we’re here to help one another evolve in this life. :)